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Well my o2 contract runs out next month and I'm trying to decide if I upgrade to a XDA II now of wait for the XDA III which does look very nice.
So I thought I'd ask all you Knowledgeable people in here and see what you thought.
I'm in the same boat.
Apart from the keyboard, which wouldn't be a big plus as I really like Calligrapher, what are the major differences that would make it worth upgrading?
When is it likely to be available?
mindracing said:
I'm in the same boat.
Apart from the keyboard, which wouldn't be a big plus as I really like Calligrapher, what are the major differences that would make it worth upgrading?
When is it likely to be available?
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Well as an XDA I owner it makes a big difference to me having Wi-Fi and Bluetooth as well as the better battery life and WM2003SE (on the XDA III) I just cant decide if I should go for the II now or wait for the III
I recently bought a II, but already had my eye on the III. I'm happy I did so. I'll just sell the II when the III becomes available. It's worth the upgrade.
Exactly Carlos...I upgraded from I to II knowing that the III would be on the horizon. Personally speaking, I don't like the idea of the keyboard on the III, part of the XDA series' appeal - though sometimes frustrating - is that it is a completely different experience to a normal phone. Everyone who sees my phone for the first time says "where's the keys?" and when I show them they go "wow cool". I am willing to put up with the no WM2003SE until such point as o2 decide to do something about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10569&highlight=source+o2
I'm still blisteringly happy with my II and don't see that changing even when the III comes out. Besides, look at it this way. If you get a II, then decide to get a III a year later, you're in a better position to recoup some of the dosh if you sell a II as opposed to a I, though it depends on whether you want to buy two phones to get a III or just one.
I'd personally go for the II.
Anthony
I have a P800, I am waiting for the XDA3. I was going to get the XDA2. But I think I would realy like the keys. I am not a big key fan and love using the pen, but there are always a time where I can only use the device with one hand, riding a bike for a eg and just cant! cause I need keys. Like if I got an SMS, I would have to use two hands just to write an answer of yes, where if you had the keypad it would make life a little easier. Having said that I would still buy a bluetooth keyborad. for those long letters or web programming.
so......... and realy it should be out in about 3 weeks, thats my guess. T-mobile said sept and expansys.uk all say sept. I am I am guessing third week. just 21 days..... worth the wait.
Plus think of play computer games with all those keys!!!!
Did O2 annouce an XDA3 ???
AFAIK (this is definitvly valid for germany) O2 want's to skip the XDA3 and wait for the next model from HTC supporting 3G
Actually, "Yes" is one of the 10 pre-scripted quick-text messages you can send via SMS or e-mail. They are changeable. I thought I'd have trouble using the on-screen keys while riding my motorcycle, but even with gloves on it is fine.
The keyboard in the III is a complete waste in my opinion, I just wish they'd used the space for more battery or to make the device smaller. But oh well, the rest of the specs are very nice so I'm sure I'll get one. My girlfriend already has her eye on my II.
one other thing you might have to take into consideraton are o2 going to bring out the xda111 as you might have to change contracts to get it .the xda 11 is a quailty machine a great upgrade on the first version.
Hi ... I have a Wizard right now and I am thinking of geting a startrek.
Since there are not many review of it so far to those that do have it any major complaints so far ? and where is the cheapest place to buy it from ? what did yall pay ?
Also can some one do me a favor and go in the the settings of the phone and look @ the caller ID options ...does it have send only to contact option?
Thx
does it have send only to contact option?
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yes it does.
i don't think i can help with where to get it. but i can tell you that i replaced my wizard with it because it's so much easier to deal with as a phone.
Played with it this weekend. If you're happy with a smartphone, not a touchscreen, it's very very nice, elegant, thin, and useful.
V
great ...now all I got to do is sell my faraday and wizard
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great ...now all I got to do is sell my faraday and wizard
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How can you be so sure that you are happy with a smartphone as to a PDA phone? I haven't tried a smartphone before, but due to the comments and votes on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55256&highlight=
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geekserver said:
great ...now all I got to do is sell my faraday and wizard
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How can you be so sure that you are happy with a smartphone as to a PDA phone? I haven't tried a smartphone before, but due to the comments and votes on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55256&highlight=
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I have both... a Universal and a StrTrk...
Well, it's a personal decision. It depends on what you need those devices for...
I've had a K-Jam as a primary phone, but then decided to switch back to a Motorola Mpx220 instead...
I'm actually using the Universal as a secondary phone and the StrTrk which substituted the Mpx220...
I know I need them both, but this is strictly personal.
There is now DEFINITIVE answer, otherwise there will only be ONE device... ;-)
Ciao
I have just upgraded my Wizard and c500 to a TyTn and Strtrk. Both are great phones, but have different uses like Mix said. You can't beat the form factor of the Strtrk, or the functionality of the Tytn. Unfortunately no one device has both...... yet. :wink:
Well since a few of u got a TyTN and a str trk was wondering if you could check the caller ID setting on the TYTN ...wanted to know does it have the send only to contats option ?
Hi Everyone,
I bought the lobster around october and for what it lacks in rugged good looks you be hard pressed to find a decent portable dab radio at twice the price, and you get all the other great features too. So all told i am a big fan of the phone and its a shame they are discontinuing the service.
But my question is this. If i were to have a copy of wm6 is there a way of upgrading the lobster to the new operating system or is this impossible? Was waiting for htc to release details of an update but i had the feeling it would be passed by and it there is no chance of this happening now.
Or i saw on here a rom update created for the tornado. Does XDA have any plans to create a release for the lobster?
Would appreciate any info on this or tell me im living in a dream land
thanks!!
It would be nice...
Hi,
Yes, I'm a fan too, pretty much for the same reasons. There is a patch on here originally for the Tornado that allows for A2DP for stereo headphones etc.
I'm thinking if the phone is as generic a QVGA SmartPhone as it appears then it should be possible to convert a similar phones WM6, however I think there would need to be some customization to allow the DAB radio to still work...
I would be interested too, if anyone has looked at this. I think this phone is a classic. I hope it doesn't get 'left behind'.
Regards,
James
Yeah i figured the same, would be pretty gutted if could actually upgrade but lose the DAB cos its a great little addition. Fingers crossed...
Hi all,
I see a lot of familiar/famous faces here allready.
Would be good to know which Devs are porting over to the Raphael.
May also help with Development work if we have a list of Developers that will be here from the beginning.
So far I believe we have
Mamaich
Bepe
Olipro
CMonex
JJ
Dutty
Laurentius
myself
Who else will be joining us?
Cheers,
Beasty
I'll be too.
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Count me in sir.
Heee ... Beasty, yes you can count me in!
I'm looking forward to Rapheal!
Regards,
Leo
Looks like the old Universal team is back together
Myself included!
You can count me in for any help with ROM testing - my upgrade is due in 4 weeks and counting...
Well whenever this comes to ATT I'll compile another thread devoted to tweaking and removing all of the random crap that is bound to come with the ATT version...
Upgrade or no upgrade available on my contract, I'm getting this phone (but I can wait for a non-front camera version for about $200 less than the $904 price it's at right now.)
I'm certainly ready to jump on the Raphael bandwagon, but the details for the 3G radio for us yankees are still questionable. Until I see what the US version is, I'm not getting really excited about it. Other than a RAM/ROM/Processor upgrade, there isn't much of a gain. Also, until this thing gets in the hands of some XDA users, we won't know if they made a similar mistake as they did with the Kaiser in terms of drivers and hardware implementation.
HTC Omni with Android - yes. Another rehash of the Wizard, meh.
-Mc
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I'm certainly ready to jump on the Raphael bandwagon, but the details for the 3G radio for us yankees are still questionable. Until I see what the US version is, I'm not getting really excited about it. Other than a RAM/ROM/Processor upgrade, there isn't much of a gain. Also, until this thing gets in the hands of some XDA users, we won't know if they made a similar mistake as they did with the Kaiser in terms of drivers and hardware implementation.
HTC Omni with Android - yes. Another rehash of the Wizard, meh.
-Mc
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Pretty sure that TouchFlo 3D needs D3D acceleration to work?? The GFX drivers situation should be almost identical to the diamond, so best to take a gander at the diamond forum and see if any issues are apparent?
You're absolutely correct.
But let us not forget that HTC's devices from years ago perform better graphically then the Kaiser. Who'd have ever thought THAT would happen (especially considering the vast technological improvements)?!?!
I have been lurking on the Diamond forums keeping an eye on how things play out. We still haven't seen a US-based Diamond variant yet.
-Mc
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You're absolutely correct.
But let us not forget that HTC's devices from years ago perform better graphically then the Kaiser. Who'd have ever thought THAT would happen (especially considering the vast technological improvements)?!?!
I have been lurking on the Diamond forums keeping an eye on how things play out. We still haven't seen a US-based Diamond variant yet.
-Mc
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Yes McHale but even if that is the case the Touch Pro is running the same chipset as the Diamond (7201A) so people could just make hybrid ROMs incorporating the best of both devices. Next question.
I'm not talking about the video specifically, I'm talking about support and proper implementation of hardware. Believe me, I'm not bashing HTC. I have enough devices I can say I supported them quite a little. I'm saying we haven't seen a US model yet and until I see the model that will work in the states, we don't know how well it will be implemented.
-Mc
You guys make me feel like A Noob again.
Not a Dev, but come agust 28th, i'll be switching to my new Baby and thread.
ill be here also,,,, full throttle.
Still debating when to get the ***** purchased, get it before holiday......or after?? hmmm
(bearing in mind i chose day before holidays to get my Hermes back in 2k6 lol)
i will switch over when at&t comes out with their version.
hope soon cause i can't stand the wait.
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Still debating when to get the ***** purchased, get it before holiday......or after?? hmmm
(bearing in mind i chose day before holidays to get my Hermes back in 2k6 lol)
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I've done the same mate, the Raphael should arrive just before we fly off to Florida (hopefully) gives me plenty of time to work on some Roms whilst away (and a new toy to play with on the plane)
Stocks for pre-orders are running a bit low on most UK sites now though, so be quick if you do want one. Expansys did me one for £460 with case and cables TV Out etc. I imagine prices will rise slightly after release and demand will be pretty high. The Uni finally gets chance to have a rest in the Bottom-Drawer Beasty PDA vault.
Cheers,
Beasty
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You guys make me feel like A Noob again.
Not a Dev, but come agust 28th, i'll be switching to my new Baby and thread.
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is 28th Aug the official release to retail date?
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is 28th Aug the official release to retail date?
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Since this isn't about the release, (that's another thread)
No the 28th is not the release date, It's when "I" get my Baby.
i so happy that i see some of my fav devs getting ready for my new HTC!!.
i was hoping to stay with the original Rom at least 6 months but i dont thing this will happen with u all!!
good luck
I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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I am in favor with you. I really enjoy my 6800 and I just updated to the vwz TP. I do not plan to selll the 6800.
I only updated because the development is moving to the TP and like you so frustrated with no memory. They did reduce the vzw TP memory which sucks so many are getting the Sprint version and making it work on vzw which is easy to do which has more memory. All the info is at ppcgeeks which where I read more now.
There are many roms over there..overload...but I found that SSK 1.5 provides the best memory for the TP since it has less. Device is fast, gps all works with the right patches but I do miss the 6800 however this new model is growing on me...
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I am in favor with you. I really enjoy my 6800 and I just updated to the vwz TP. I do not plan to selll the 6800.
I only updated because the development is moving to the TP and like you so frustrated with no memory. They did reduce the vzw TP memory which sucks so many are getting the Sprint version and making it work on vzw which is easy to do which has more memory. All the info is at ppcgeeks which where I read more now.
There are many roms over there..overload...but I found that SSK 1.5 provides the best memory for the TP since it has less. Device is fast, gps all works with the right patches but I do miss the 6800 however this new model is growing on me...
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I have started looking at newer models, but I still like most of what the Titan has to offer. I wonder if anyone has come out with a clean version of Android on the Titan? I think the biggest problem was the lack of memory.
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I have started looking at newer models, but I still like most of what the Titan has to offer. I wonder if anyone has come out with a clean version of Android on the Titan? I think the biggest problem was the lack of memory.
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I think that many of us will just continue supporting the titan as changes happen, and not move forward until there is a better phone for us. I don't like the TP completely, even on sprint cause the titan is so near perfect in design. Ram and resolution are the only issues for me, I love the buttons and roller and would love to be able to open it up and solder a 2GB chip onboard.
Android is interesting, but there may be software and hardware issues that could plague it from being a great solution, but I would love to see it work.
Of course the Titan is dying. It's been replaced by all the carriers with some variant of the Touch Pro, and supposedly the Touch Pro 2 will be out sometime this year. That would make the Titan 2 generations of phones old. Not many people want to spend time making new ROM's for a 2-3 year old phone when there are much better phones out there to support.
It has been, by far, the best phone I've ever owned. Durable, decent reception, voice clarity, battery life (using an upgraded battery from Seidio), and I love Windows Mobile. I've just never been a Blackberry guy, never loved the Apple OS, and still not quite sold on Android.
But its just like any other electronics equipment... newer and better things come out eventually, and the old stuff fades away. I've resisted going to the Touch Pro with Verizon specifically because of its reduced RAM (compared to ATT/Sprint versions), and because I dont like the keyboard layout. I'm also not a major proponent of getting the Sprint phone then using it on VZW's network, just cause I'm not comfortable with that idea for whatever reason.
For now, my XV6800 lives on. Sure, my vibrate doesnt work anymore, but oh well. I still find it to be incredibly reliable for every day use, and until the TP2 or something along those lines comes out, its the phone for me.
My contract ends this December so I have a while to go with my Titan. Either way I love it and I use Sk-tools which helps a lot! I do like all the hardware buttons.
Really I don't see myself getting another Windows Phone unless it has Windows Mobile 7.
titan scene is dying. the supports, at least here at xda has disappeared. the devs have moved on, unfortunately. i would love to work with some other devs to get android working on this phone, but its tough finding people who want to take on that task.
i think htc will be releasing a cdma phone with android soon, i might end up getting that... but in the mean time i am just running DCD's 3.2.6 with HTC Home. nice and simple, and quick.
the Titan is dying..quite honestly, I'm waiting on the Palm Pre to be out..I can't deal with the severe memory leaks most WM phones have
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I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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The titan is being out modelled yes, but the titan is still very much alive. All the 6.5 coming out have been successfully ported to the titan, and guess what it just keeps getting better.
Yes the earlier builds of 6.5 were sluggish but the builds coming out now are faaaaaast. Get to try one and you will not be too fast on ditching your old love for a new lover.
Whats Titan
Whats Titan anyways?
Not in the coffin yet...
It's fascinating to see all the different responses. I too have a contract until the later part of the year so I won't be moving to a new phone any time soon, but I am starting to look down the line. It is hard to think that my little friend will eventually be collecting dust in the closet by then, it has been, as someone stated, the best phone I've ever owned. Sure it has flaws like lack of memory, memory leaks, a small screen (although it did seem big at one time) and so on, but overall I think, with the help of communities like xda and others, the benefits far outweigh them. Funny thing is I finding I'm using less and less apps on the phone -not exactly sure why though.
BTW I don't like the new MSIE6 at all -does anyone know of any tips or tricks for it?
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Whats Titan anyways?
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Not sure if you're joking or not, but just in case you're not.
Titan = HTC XV6800 -AKA: Sprint Mogul PPC-6800, I'm sure there are other guises it goes by...
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The titan is being out modelled yes, but the titan is still very much alive. All the 6.5 coming out have been successfully ported to the titan, and guess what it just keeps getting better.
Yes the earlier builds of 6.5 were sluggish but the builds coming out now are faaaaaast. Get to try one and you will not be too fast on ditching your old love for a new lover.
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Vickylife007,
Which WM6.5 do you have in mind? There are so many out there and I believe I've tried most of them to the same results (I know their betas, so they aren't perfect yet).
I'm always willing to try new things to spice up my love life
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My contract ends this December so I have a while to go with my Titan. Either way I love it and I use Sk-tools which helps a lot! I do like all the hardware buttons.
Really I don't see myself getting another Windows Phone unless it has Windows Mobile 7.
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I've been out of a contract for 6 months now. I like my Titan, it works pretty good, my limits, battery life (will there ever be a PDA phone battery that lasts a week with use ?) and memory limits.
I've said a few time on this site as well as PPCgeeks, I will not buy a new phone till we see some new features (more than a little more memory, newer screen and shape of phone), and from what I am reading that will come down the line in WM 7. Pretty much all the phones are about the same when it comes down to real specs, there is no reason to upgrade to a newer phone. Oh, yea, they look a little nicer, not worth that in my eyes
After all, with internet, GPS, a keyboard, and all the other little bells the Titan has, who really needs another phone ?
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Vickylife007,
Which WM6.5 do you have in mind? There are so many out there and I believe I've tried most of them to the same results (I know their betas, so they aren't perfect yet).
I'm always willing to try new things to spice up my love life
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21193 is good, 21198 is great. Yeah they are all betas, they will remain so in name until there is an official release from MS, but they are stable for everyday use. If you like trying new things then try to catch up with the builds as they come out like two per week. I personally have had problems catching up.........................you may have a nack for this.
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21193 is good, 21198 is great. Yeah they are all betas, they will remain so in name until there is an official release from MS, but they are stable for everyday use. If you like trying new things then try to catch up with the builds as they come out like two per week. I personally have had problems catching up.........................you may have a nack for this.
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Actually I'm having a tough time keeping up too. I just tried Titan_21198_Beta_1. It's not bad, but in the few hours I've had it now there's Titan_21198_Beta_1.1. Haha...
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Actually I'm having a tough time keeping up too. I just tried Titan_21198_Beta_1. It's not bad, but in the few hours I've had it now there's Titan_21198_Beta_1.1. Haha...
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It gets better, 21314 is reported to be out.
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It gets better, 21314 is reported to be out.
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What happened to all the releases in between!? Oh well at least I don't have to test all of them.
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It's fascinating to see all the different responses. I too have a contract until the later part of the year so I won't be moving to a new phone any time soon, but I am starting to look down the line. It is hard to think that my little friend will eventually be collecting dust in the closet by then, it has been, as someone stated, the best phone I've ever owned. Sure it has flaws like lack of memory, memory leaks, a small screen (although it did seem big at one time) and so on, but overall I think, with the help of communities like xda and others, the benefits far outweigh them. Funny thing is I finding I'm using less and less apps on the phone -not exactly sure why though.
BTW I don't like the new MSIE6 at all -does anyone know of any tips or tricks for it?
Not sure if you're joking or not, but just in case you're not.
Titan = HTC XV6800 -AKA: Sprint Mogul PPC-6800, I'm sure there are other guises it goes by...
Vickylife007,
Which WM6.5 do you have in mind? There are so many out there and I believe I've tried most of them to the same results (I know their betas, so they aren't perfect yet).
I'm always willing to try new things to spice up my love life
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I'm the same way...... I had, at one point, 30-40 apps installed and 20-30 games. Then I realized most of them were things I NEVER used. The last time I flashed my phone to DCD 3.3.4, I decided to only install stuff I actually use.... which is maybe 10 apps and 5 games at most. The phone is so fast without all that extra junk.
I played with WM6.5, and honestly, not that impressed. I dont see a huge difference. Maybe WM7 will have something amazing and make an upgrade worthwhile.
I see myself eventually going to a different OS though, depending on what HTC cooks up for us.
WM7 will probably be too much for our Titans to handle; it may get obsoleted due to hardware requirements. my hope is for Linux (Android)! or whomever gives me Flash 10 first...
Android...
From my searches (granted they haven't been too in depth) it would appear nobody is really picking up on Android builds for the Titan. The ones out there now are just apps to run on top of WM, which kinda makes it pointless. It seems the lack of memory on the Titan is an issue for the Android OS to run on it's own.
Has anyone heard different?
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I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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I like to think of my Titan like the child that was born with an incurable genetic disease. I may love it and do all I can for it,but yes,in the end ,it is in fact dieing,and it started before it was even born. I just try to help it along doing all the things that other phones do and minimize its suffering while waiting for the inevitable.