I have seen many, many threads about POST installation issues regarding the new 3.16 rom. I would like to attempt a problem/resolution thread that hopefully everyone will participate in order to create a "one-stop-shopping" thread regarding these issues.
I figure the mods will later either delete dormant threads or compile related threads into one. Hopefully we can get most if not all issues related to post installation here and properly labeled...
Please post problem(s) and if applicable, the resolution(s) to the problem regarding the 3.16 rom w/ Rev. A & GPS compatibility, including custom & stock rom. Please keep the thread limited to calls, data ( Rev. A & 0 plus Ev & 1X), task bar icons, prl's, etc and refer GPS questions/issues to threads like TalynOne's The Titan Internal GPS FAQ (01/30/2008) located here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
I have included below some links to start off the thread which includes a link to the definition of what the PRL is and what it does and below that is a site with former & current PRL's for numerous carriers.
PRL - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_roaming_list
PRL Listing - http://corolada.com/prl/
xweaponx said:
I have seen many, many threads about POST installation issues regarding the new 3.16 rom. I would like to attempt a problem/resolution thread that hopefully everyone will participate in order to create a "one-stop-shopping" thread regarding these issues.
I figure the mods will later either delete dormant threads or compile related threads into one. Hopefully we can get most if not all issues related to post installation here and properly labeled...
Please post problem(s) and if applicable, the resolution(s) to the problem regarding the 3.16 rom w/ Rev. A & GPS compatibility, including custom & stock rom. Please keep the thread limited to calls, data ( Rev. A & 0 plus Ev & 1X), task bar icons, prl's, etc and refer GPS questions/issues to other GPS threads...
I have included below some links to start off the thread which includes a link to the definition of what the PRL is and what it does and below that is a site with former & current PRL's for numerous carriers.
PRL - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_roaming_list
PRL Listing - http://corolada.com/prl/
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I flashed this ROM and I have since, jumped to DCDs version of it, and then back to 2.17.
I have, and apparently, a lot of folks have had inconsistent EVDO connection problems. Some times it freezes on "Loading"...other times, I can begin to pull up a web page and it times out. Speeds were good when it rarely did work properly.
The odd thing is that I have loaded new ROMS (including the current Sprint OEM ROM) and I'm still having that problem. (I'm taking suggestions to resolve this)
Also, like others, voice signal displayed fewer bars than usual. More "Signal Faded, Call lost than I have ever seen with this device.
On a kinda more positive note...
GPS worked well (when the EVDO connection did)
New Apps sucked up more of our previous RAM, but I didn't have any
latency or freeze ups.
I myself am experiencing a number of problems with the new ROM version, and will be downgrading to 2.17 soon. It took 3 installations of the new ROM to get the GPS to work. Since then, I've experienced several performance issues, including multiple times where the phone will freeze during web browsing in Opera Mobile. Sometimes, the phone won't even freeze, but will come up with a screen saying that the system memory is low, even when I'm only running Opera Mobile, it'll ask me to close either "Opera Mobile" "Phone" "Phone" or "Phone". Weird? I think so...
Also, there are times where I won't even get the internet to work. I'll have to either go in to the connections menu and disable the data connection, or do a soft reset of the phone completely.
In my opinion, it's probably more trouble than I really need to go through. I will be downgrading to 2.17 until the official release comes out.
Same issues for me:
inconsistent EVDO connection problems. Some times it freezes on "Loading"...other times, I can begin to pull up a web page and it times out. Speeds were good when it rarely did work properly.
Also, like others, voice signal displayed fewer bars than usual. More "Signal Faded, Call lost than I have ever seen with this device.
Spent 30 min with VZW level 2 support today. I called due to ##debug HDR an/aaa was = 0.. I was under the impression was supposed to be set to 1. They did look at my SSDR (I think he said that) and found it had a small issue with the authentication (still reads =0), but after he fixed that I still have issues. My HDR RDX power goes from -71db to -96db.
I also noticed every time I call the phone changes from EV to 1x. I know you don't use EV to make voice calls, but I did not remember (key word) seeing it switch like that before. Maybe someone with 2.17 1.40 radio can confirm.
I have thought about moving back too, but my call ticket history is getting pretty long with VZW and if I needed another A-key (yes I have one written down) it may start to look strange.
I'm on sprint and when I tried to update I was stuck on boot loader so I went online and switched esn over to my Treo for the time being as I worked on my Mogul. Eventually I got to load the rom fully and switched esn back. I noticed afterwards that my internet was only locking at 1x. Upon restart it would say EV but anytime it is connected to the net it is 1x. DSLreports clocked it at 50-90kbps so I know as definitely getting 1x speed. Reloaded the rom several times and still the same. This went on for 2 days. Eventually called Sprint and told them of my problem. They noticed that I was still on the regular Vision plan but I have always been able to connect to EVDO speeds so I never thought that was an issue. They updated me to Power Vision and right after I started getting EVDO speeds. I'm not sure if it was because of the change or maybe a restart of my data service that did the trick.
2 other issues I'm having is I noticed my phone is a little slow with this ROM. Opening programs etc. Sometimes the program using GPS like Live Search or GPS Viewer will lock up temporarily. The 2nd issue is what some are also reporting regarding signal. I noticed I get 1 to 2 less signal bars.
Overall 3.16 has been "ok". No problems with flashing really, and memory usage is "ok", I'm averaging around 17-18mb free with no apps running. It's not exactly the 20-22mb I had free with my prior custom rom, but enough to get by.
I'm not having problems with phone freezes or out of memory errors. I am, however, having some problems with BT and with net connectivity.
Data: I'm using Schap's Advanced config tool, version 1.1, and I've selected the option to keep my 'net connection live all the time. Unfortunately, this is not working, and I'm finding that throughout the day my connection goes down. With my prior custom rom, if I was streaming audio content over evdo or 1x, the connection would stay alive as long as the audio program was running, barring a loss of cell signal. Now I'm finding that about once an hour my data connection goes down and interrupts my audio stream.
BT: I have a Plantronics 320 headset, which worked flawlessly (albeit with less than stellar audio quality) with my prior rom. With 3.16, the volume and sound quality are much improved, BUT I am not able to answer calls on my headset. If I initiate a call with BT on, no problems, I can talk till the call is over, then press the headset hard button to hang up. If I *receive* a call, however, when I press the headset hard button to answer, the call is answered, but the audio is not directed to the headset. Instead, it routes to the handset.
GPS works well with TeleNav, GoogleMaps, Live, and generally locks onto 5-7 satellites within about 60 seconds if I'm somewhere with a clear view of the sky.
I tried using GPS2Blue to redirect the GPS data to a BT comm port. When I have BT enabled and attempt to redirect, GPS2Blue says BT port not open, waiting for BT port to open. If I go into comm manager and turn BT off, then GPS2Blue says BT port is open, and begins to wait for a BT connection to my laptop. If I go back into comm manager, the BT icon has been grayed out as if BT is off, but the little circled "X" icon is not superimposed over the BT icon as it would be when BT is off. If I click the icon again, it acts as if BT is being enabled, but the icon doesn't change, and the BT LED does not begin to blink. Don't know if it's a problem with GPS2Blue software or something else. Wish it would work cleanly, I'd love to use my 6800 as a BT GPS receiver for my laptop.
ETA: I've seen a few folks mention that when they answer a voice call their 6800 switches from Evdo to 1X. I'm wondering if this might be a way of implementing simultaneous voice & data. Has anyone tried taking a call and browsing the web simultaneously? I think this may be dependant upon network services in your area, so this may only work for folks in big cities with the most advanced network features, if it works at all...
ETA2: Just tried the above, and I'm getting the usual message that data connections cannot be initiated while on a voice call. I'm in a large city that *should* have all the latest network features, so if it dual voice/data was possible with this radio then it should work here. I'm assuming it's not presently possible, based on my experiment, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
with the sprint rom a ton of us have no audio out using an adaptor to listen through headphones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363087
is a big thread about this going on the main board.
Took the plunge and installed the "stock" 3.16 on both my phone and a friend's last night. The first thing I want to note is that it went extremely smooth. No issues to note. It took a bit too long for my liking but it was fine. I didn't have to modify any MSID or MSN data - my phone worked fine right off the bat. Data was hosed, but a quick client-initiated IOTA Programming fixed that. (Settings, Personal, Phone, Services, Internet, Get Settings)
I have two constantly pinging(one 15 mins, one 30) e-mail accounts(one imap, one Exchange) that must keep my data connection alive. I haven't noticed a single decline in my data rate, nor a problem with disconnections. Then again, I live in NYC, which may make a difference.
GPS sucked last night - I couldn't get a satellite to save my life. On the way to work today, though, it was perfect. 4 satellites found in GMaps and tracking worked great.
I'm pretty happy w/the new additions to PocketOutlook too. Has anyone noticed that Gmail's IMAP works perfectly now, and that when you have multiple accounts - hitting messaging (when it's previously closed) brings up a choice of which account to go to? SWEET!
Just a quick "me too" regarding both disconnects and getting hung up during certain downloads. I've noticed that both "Live Search" from Microsoft's site and the latest (2.17) OEM ROM from HTC's site both hang up soon after they start downloading. This occurs both on the phone itself and while tethering to my laptop.
Foetus said:
Just a quick "me too" regarding both disconnects and getting hung up during certain downloads. I've noticed that both "Live Search" from Microsoft's site and the latest (2.17) OEM ROM from HTC's site both hang up soon after they start downloading. This occurs both on the phone itself and while tethering to my laptop.
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So the phone made me out to be a liar. The LiveSearch download from wls.live.com failed now. It definitely worked last night on my roommate's phone however. Hrm. I downloaded it from my pc and emailed it to myself and it actually downloaded. That's odd.
Foetus said:
Just a quick "me too" regarding both disconnects and getting hung up during certain downloads. I've noticed that both "Live Search" from Microsoft's site and the latest (2.17) OEM ROM from HTC's site both hang up soon after they start downloading. This occurs both on the phone itself and while tethering to my laptop.
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I didn't try with the ROM update, but I did experience this with Live Search.
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Vinny75 said:
I didn't try with the ROM update, but I did experience this with Live Search.
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Had trouble getting my phone to flash, because I flashed the radio before the rom. Once I got phone going is working perfect. Hooked up to pda net on laptop downloading at 1.7 uploading at 500K. Use Holux to get gps started all programs work, Tom Tom is more accurate with my mogul compared to the external gps. Have not tried my s9 headphones yet. Running the DCD beta and I have no complaints except for the memory. Phone quality is the same.
v3.16+ ROM puts a voicemail icon on the 1 key which screws up the keypad if you are using the BlueFrog Big Button Dialer. To fix this, change the registry DWORD value at
Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction\CDMA\EnableVoicemailIcon
from 1 to 0, and soft reset.
I was running Custels V1.1 2.14 and radio 1.47.00. I had my data set to connect all the time (which never idled btw...)and had Ev service everywhere. After installing Dcd's 3.16 & radio 3.27 I first recieved the "twin towers"... One had data connection and the other looked like the searching-for-signal tower. Plus my roam indicator was constanlty blinking.
After searching the forums, a helpful soul recommended *228 then press 3 which programs your phone. Remember that you are not upgrading to a new phone.
I then *228 and pressed 2 this time to program the latest PRL (which was 30029 before and still then). After searching some more, I saw that there was indeed a newer PRL which is 40029 (link in the first thread). I downloaded the PRL to my Sd card, dialed **775, entered my Alltel Unlock Code of 000000 and and the first screen I saw was update prl. Click on "Menu" in bottom right and hit the "Edit" button. Now you should see a empty value with "Browse" below it. Browse to the location where you placed your prl, upload and if you exit out correctly, you should be soft resetting your device.
After completeing the steps above, my roaming triangle was gone as well as the extra tower. I still have my data constantly on with Ev coverage all the time but my data actually idles now. Call quality has been noticed by myself and others as clearer and louder than before.
That Reg Entry doesnt exist on mine.
TalynOne said:
v3.16+ ROM puts a voicemail icon on the 1 key which screws up the keypad if you are using the BlueFrog Big Button Dialer. To fix this, change the registry DWORD value at
Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction\CDMA\EnableVoicemailIcon
from 1 to 0, and soft reset.
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Mine has the following instead:
"HKCU\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction\CDMA\VoicemailIcon
Value name:BtnDN_LAND Value data:Windows\_VoicemailBtn1_Land.bmp" and three other similars.
Should that entry be added in it's entirety or should I remove my current entries? Any body else find they have entries like mine?
I thought I had that problem at first, but when I looked more closely, the reg entry is *in* the CDMA folder, not in a sub-folder below CDMA.
!!Major Bluetooth Issue!!
recently installed DCD's new GPS enabled ROM for Verizon. Everything has been working well even the GPS !!EXCEPT!! Bluetooth OBEX. When I try to send / beam any type of file my XV6800 stops responding and I am forced to soft reset.
I don't know if this only affects the Verizon ROM or all carriers for that matter. Is there any one here that has a fix or know's of a fix to resolve this issue? Has DCD released any news on this? I would Gladly appreciate it, as all the people with this issue.
Searching For Service
I loaded the Sprint Test Rom. No when ever I boot my phone it takes ~4 minutes for the phone to lock onto the network.
You are may differ with this situation....
PRL's didn't change. Even reloaded 60610. EVDO roaming is gone. Guess they didn't like people forcing their phone to roaming in areas where Alltel has EVDO and Sprint doesn't. 60611 also removed EVDO roaming in my area. 60610 and 2.17 work fine with EVDO roaming.
CardExport & the My Documents-redirect-to-SD-card reg tweak:
HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory
change the value of the string "Folder" to "My documents"
no longer work.
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I know this is not supposed to be able to happen, but on two occasions today and since upgrading to new radio and DCD 3.0 my wifi has turned on and detected networks with the wifi switch set to off, not sure why this is happening and I can not duplicate it on demand, trying to turn on wifi with the switch of via comm manager still does not work. Trying to find some kind of pattern but it has only happened twice.
Perhaps with the new radio there is a way to turn it on and off via software, or perhaps my switch is malfuntioning.
I had a similar experience as well.
I noticed it when I soft reset (not all the time, but 1/10 maybe?) and when trying to activesync, it would sometimes turn on.
I wish there was a way to figure it out, this means that it should be possible turn on wifi via software doesn't it?
Now that you mention it one of the times it came on was right after a soft reset.
Yep, this is becoming a well known problem.....well, for me not a big problem, just a slight annoyance....in the new ROM/Radio. It must have something to do with the radio, because I never experienced this in any other ROM. I'm wondering if WLAN may be turning on when there are short lapses in carrier coverage, and when an app (like activesync....I sync my e-mail using outlook)is trying to be connected to data (the internet). I just turn it back off when it turns on by itself. It doesn't ever seem to turn OFF by itself when I'm actually using WLAN.
EDIT:
one thing that may support my theory is that when you do a soft reset, it takes a bit to connect to the carrier network, and this just happens to be one of the times that WLAN turns itself back on..
And yeah, the battery usage definately sucks....plus when WLAN is turned on, and you're not connected to an access point, you could have data throughput issues as it keeps trying to see if it can connect through WLAN and/or radio......
I need it fixed , I didn't catch it earlier and my battery lost 85% today wihtout me even using my phone. Normally I get 2 full days I haven't really used my phone today and was fully charged this morning now I am at 15%, very poor performance for my typical use.
I am running dcd's 3.0.1 on my XV6800 and noticed that the wifi will turn on with the switch in the off position. It has happened to me a half dozen times or so. It only does it while I am on a call. Any suggestions? Has a solution been found yet? Any help is appreciated!
Same here, but has only happened a of of times.
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I am running dcd's 3.0.1 on my XV6800 and noticed that the wifi will turn on with the switch in the off position. It has happened to me a half dozen times or so. It only does it while I am on a call. Any suggestions? Has a solution been found yet? Any help is appreciated!
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It only appears to happen while in a call for me as well...it happened with no additional software installed at that point so I'm certain it has something to do with the rom itself...I'm guessing the new radio but who knows for sure...
shame here
i know what it is guy its wifirouter setting changes it makes all phones with this app will have the same deal!
llmo128 said:
i know what it is guy its wifirouter setting changes it makes all phones with this app will have the same deal!
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Except that I've never installed WiFiRouter...
I don't have WifiRouter either.
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Except that I've never installed WiFiRouter...
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And I hvae never had the problem. (and I do run wmwifirouter)
i saw this when the kitchen first came out as well. i also saw that it wanted to connect to a roaming alot more than it should as well.
sprint will tell you to set you phone roaming settings to "sprint only" the phones and ROMs come with "automatic" enabled.
my sprint buddy told me long ago to change this from auto to sprint only. soft reset. let it conect to a good sprint connection. then switch back to "auto" and soft reset.
i haven't did this for a year or so, but when i started seeing the roaming icon after many of the soft resets i thought about it. since i did this i haven't seen the roaming nor the wifi bug.
i think it is the theory that when you softreset the phone set on auto looks for the first tower, which could be a roaming tower. this takes a little too long to conect. in this longer than normal connection time when something like activesync wants to connect and has no internet connection it will enable wifi to connect if it has to.
i have noticed in the past with other ROM's as well that if your phone is in flight mode and you soft reset. as soon as activesync tries to connect and cant it will turn on wifi.
try this. turn on flight mode. soft reset. open active sync and hit sync. you'll see.
so for the record... this is not a dcd bug, but rather a windows mobile bug. wm 5 and 6. the best fix is to set it to sprint only or do the trick i stated above.
Are any of you running the HTC Home Plugin with the weather patch?
Because I installed it on my XV6800 and on a soft reset the WiFi was acting wacky. As if it was looking for a signal.
All I did to correct this issue was to disable automatic roam / download of the weather.
Well what I noticed so far is this, mostly happens after a soft reset, but sometimes it does it at random. Only happens when I have DCD 3.0.1, I am not seeing it with any other custom rom and I think I have tried them all. I have not had any roaming icons or the like and with telus customizations on you have two options for network, there is standard and automatic.
The only reason I hold on to it being dcd 3.0.1 is that no other version 3.35rom I've installed has done it, the ones I have installed off the top of my head are the stock sprint rom, DCD 3.0, 3.0.1, no2chem 5053, and two others that I can't remember as well as my own stripped down version of the stock sprint rom.
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Well what I noticed so far is this, mostly happens after a soft reset, but sometimes it does it at random. Only happens when I have DCD 3.0.1, I am not seeing it with any other custom rom and I think I have tried them all. I have not had any roaming icons or the like and with telus customizations on you have two options for network, there is standard and automatic.
The only reason I hold on to it being dcd 3.0.1 is that no other version 3.35rom I've installed has done it, the ones I have installed off the top of my head are the stock sprint rom, DCD 3.0, 3.0.1, no2chem 5053, and two others that I can't remember as well as my own stripped down version of the stock sprint rom.
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Did you have this issue with your Stock ROM?
I only ran the stock 3.35 rom for about a day but I seem to recall it happened then as well. I didn't think it was necessarily DCD's rom but was an issue with the new radio. I'll try the steps cody recommended and see if that does the trick.
llmo128 said:
i know what it is guy its wifirouter setting changes it makes all phones with this app will have the same deal!
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Nor have I.
I just switched to sprint only, and after a soft reset, the wifi did not turn on as usual.
[email protected]$ said:
Did you have this issue with your Stock ROM?
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No I did not, however I also did not have it on there very long. I flash often, and I am constantly tweaking, "My name is jjlwork have a flashing problem" lo
Interestingly enough I am able to reproduce by following cody's instructions with the flight mode -> soft reset -> activesync
Hey guys,
Can you tell me if there is an "issue" with the GPS on the Alltel Touch Pro phones? These are fairly new phones and have only been out for a couple weeks so there may not be a lot of info available but it sure seems to me there are some issues here.
I'm on my 3rd phone. First phone was probably OK but since it was new and nobody in the area was familiar with it, everyone thought the speakerphone speaker was defective... turns out it just sucks but that's in a different thread. On the 2nd phone we noticed at the Alltel store the signal kept dropping out completely and then coming back. Also I dropped a call, looked at the phone and it showed no bars in a very good signal reception area. That coupled with I couldn't get the GPS to reliably work, Alltel swapped out the phone again for me thinking the GPS was defective. Well, third one might be worse!!!???
I have verified I have the 911 location settings turned ON.
I have run QuickGPS and downloaded the data.
On the 2nd phone after several days of trying it off and on and having zero success I decided to get the $9.99 monthly Alltel app. It did indicate a weak signal but eventually picked up my location. Hmm??? I then went into Google Maps and it too was seeing around 10 satellites. Why could I not get it to see any satellites for days then as soon as I paid for the monthly Alltel app it "kinda" worked??? I say "kinda" because after that being able to lock onto satellites even in an open field was very iffy. So, I took the Alltel GPS app off the phone and did a hard reset because I still couldn't consistently get any satellites. After the hard reset I tried again with Google Maps and nothing. I then downloaded GPS Test and it immediately found several satellites??? I then started up Google Maps and then it immediately started working too?!? During all this I installed TomTom Navigator 5 (own that so thought I'd try it) and it too was "iffy" if it would find any satellites but it did connect so long as I had the GPS Test program running in the background. I could live with that but even with the GPS Test program running in the background on the 2nd phone it wasn't at all consistent even outside in an open field. What I find odd though is that the GPS seems to "stick" and the GPS Test program was "unsticking" the locked up GPS... but not reliably.
Now for the 3rd phone. Get the 3rd phone this morning and immediately download Google Maps, turn on location settings, and do the Quick GPS. Do a soft reset and try out Google Maps in a parking lot. NOTHING again after over 10 minutes. CRAP! Downloaded GPS Test and now on this phone I'm only getting "GPS starting up" with one yellow bar. I can't even get GPS Test to work now but it finds the GPS and acts like it is trying to lock on to satellites. On both phones it was defaulting to 9600 baud. Seemed to not make a difference if I select 9600 or 4800... when it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't.
This is very frustrating. It is not like the programs don't work because I've got them all to work but only sporadically. Is Alltel doing "something" to this phone and the GPS like "half assed" locking it out??? I don't know what else it could be. Could I have got two bad phones in a row? I've read were other Alltel users just download Google Maps and, bingo, works immediately for them.
Any ideas as to what I might be able to try would be greatly appreciated. I love some of the features on the phone but some of the basic items that should work (speakerphone, GPS) on an expensive phone like this don't work worth a darn
Thanks!!!
Drop the Alltel Nav plan...you don't need it. All it did was set your GPS settings to work, which you can do in the settings. Set GPS Hardware Port GPS and GPS Program Port both to none. Set Baud at 4800 and allow automatic managment. Soft Reset just in case and you should be good to go!
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mspace00 said:
Drop the Alltel Nav plan...you don't need it. All it did was set your GPS settings to work, which you can do in the settings. Set GPS Hardware Port GPS and GPS Program Port both to none. Set Baud at 4800 and allow automatic managment. Soft Reset just in case and you should be good to go!
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I only had the Alltel Nav plan for a couple of days... only got it for troubleshooting.
I had tried your settings before and both Google Maps and GPS Test could not even find the GPS. I just tried again and same results... GPS just keeps scanning for the GPS and can never find it. You have an Alltel phone?
The setting that you recommend me changing away from the default setting is the GPS Program Port... if that is set to NONE, the programs can't even find the GPS. When I change it back to COM4, the GPS is found but GPS Test sits at "GPS Starting Up" with either no satellites found or just one most of the time. I did the other day get it to work even on this new phone but then yesterday tried again for 20 minutes sitting still outside and the best I got GPS Test to show was 4 satellites... not even enough to get past the "starting up" message.
It seems like it is defective again but, man, TWO phones in a row with a bad GPS?????
So last night after replying to this thread, I was messing around with the new google maps. This morning...NOTHING works with my GPS. Perhaps the download of alltel nav (although canceled) activated the GPS on my phone for a specified time and now the sub ended. I was sold on this phone by Alltel reps because the GPS was not locked to an app.
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mspace00 said:
So last night after replying to this thread, I was messing around with the new google maps. This morning...NOTHING works with my GPS. Perhaps the download of alltel nav (although canceled) activated the GPS on my phone for a specified time and now the sub ended. I was sold on this phone by Alltel reps because the GPS was not locked to an app.
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Well, after screwing around yesterday like I did, I decided to just let it set in my garage (with many sky lights) this morning for a few hours with the GPS Test program running and looking for satellites. NOTHING. Did a soft reset, went outside, started up the GPS Test program and within 5 seconds was locked on to 10 satellites!?!?! I could swear I've done soft resets before and it did no good. Will try a soft reset again if it quits working on me. Also, I'm inside the house now in a room with ZERO windows and it is still seeing 7 satellites. I suspect there is an issue with GPS on this phone but because it seems very "flaky" I'd think a software update may be able to fix it... hope so anyway!
You might want to try a soft reset and see if that works for ya?
I also talked to a smart phone expert guy and he said it doesn't hurt to do the Quick GPS DAILY. He has found that on many phones running a program like this daily helps the phone to connect much quicker. FWIW, I didn't run it today and after the reset it connected in seconds. LOL
Ok, so I tried running Quick GPS and I get an error "Connection Failed". Perhaps this is somehow related to the GPS issue? I will keep trying throughout the day.
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mspace00 said:
Ok, so I tried running Quick GPS and I get an error "Connection Failed". Perhaps this is somehow related to the GPS issue? I will keep trying throughout the day.
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I only ever got that when my 911 location setting was turned OFF when I first got the phone. Turned that on and it worked no problem. Also, of course, you have to be able to get your data connection established. With a data connection and your location settings ON, I don't know why you'd have a problem.
GPS no worky right for me......
Finally someone with a thread for this issue! I too am having the exact same problem. The GPS is very "flaky" at best.... I have had it work sporadically at best in the car and will drop it for no reason and the pick it right back up and then go out for good. I dont really understand what to do, it is all quite a mystery. I have manipulated the settings back and forth trying diffent things to no avail. I hope there is an update soon that straightens this out. It annoys me becasue my old titan got signal in about 10 seconds, 10 satellites, indoors, in any part of my house.... just a bit frustrating. Hopefully we get a fix soon.
Thanks for any advice on this!
Gary
bfranker said:
I only ever got that when my 911 location setting was turned OFF when I first got the phone. Turned that on and it worked no problem. Also, of course, you have to be able to get your data connection established. With a data connection and your location settings ON, I don't know why you'd have a problem.
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
This was driving me nuts! Now not only does quickGPS work, so does google maps I remember now changing that setting last night. Who knew?
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After messing with this a bit more, I think there is definitely an issue with the Alltel version of this phone and the GPS. It seems that if I can't get it to work, it WILL work after I do a soft reset. What triggers the "need" to do a soft reset I have not yet figured out. But, I do know that I saw a friend who just got a Sprint HTC Touch Pro and had no idea about the GPS. I downloaded Google Maps on their phone and in less than 5 seconds the GPS was working like a charm.
Looks like the Alltel GPS works but is very sporadic at best and, for whatever reason, requires a soft reset damn near each time you want to use it. Hoping for a real "fix" for this soon!
and how do i change the 911 location settings
The 911 settings are located in the settings for the phone. START->SETTINGS->PHONE then click the Services tab and it is under the Location Setting.
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Ok here is something that may be contributing to my problem. So i have double and triple checked the my location check and looked at the option which has always read "on". the strange thin is that the icon on the phone dialer screen shows my location feature is set to off. I have gone back to check the location setting and verified it was on. So i selected off then back on and then the icon reflected it was "on". I have tried soft resets after doing this and it goes right back to the way it was before I force it on. I am now hinking this is what is contributing to the flaky response of the gps. just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.....
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garyr2548 said:
Ok here is something that may be contributing to my problem. So i have double and triple checked the my location check and looked at the option which has always read "on". the strange thin is that the icon on the phone dialer screen shows my location feature is set to off. I have gone back to check the location setting and verified it was on. So i selected off then back on and then the icon reflected it was "on". I have tried soft resets after doing this and it goes right back to the way it was before I force it on. I am now hinking this is what is contributing to the flaky response of the gps. just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.....
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Which icon are you talking about? I looked through the online pdf manual and could find no icon that indicated this setting was on or off
Also, while a soft reset sometimes works for this, it doesn't all the time. What has saved me time in this, though, is that I've learned that if it doesn't connect in under a minute, it ain't going to. Mine either works pretty much right away or doesn't work at all. It does seem to help to start up GPS Test first but that doesn't always work either.
After reading a bit more about this on other forums, it doesn't look to be related specifically to the Alltel version like I originally assumed. A number of people with other carriers are also experiencing "flaky" operation of the HTC Touch Pro GPS. The very sad part about this is that, apparently, HTC refuses to acknowledge a problem exists.
Would be nice to know if this is a software/driver issue or hardware issue. If a hardware issue then I'll be stuck using an external receiver most likely. Software, I can hold out hope that somebody will get it figured out!
the icon i am referring to is on you phone dialer. it is a circle that resembles a set of crosshairs. when the location feature is on, you will see the crosshairs. when the setting is off the crosshairs have a diagonal line through them. i am using my phone to send this so i cant attach any pictures right now. the icon is right next to the back arrow at the top of the dialer where the number you dial is shown.
update... spent 30 minutes with alltel smartphone support and they had no solution other than saying they would send this to the group that reports issues to htc to work on a solution. they did offer me to return it but i like this phone too much. i am
sure we will figure it out soon enough.
garyr2548 said:
the icon i am referring to is on you phone dialer. it is a circle that resembles a set of crosshairs. when the location feature is on, you will see the crosshairs. when the setting is off the crosshairs have a diagonal line through them. i am using my phone to send this so i cant attach any pictures right now. the icon is right next to the back arrow at the top of the dialer where the number you dial is shown.
update... spent 30 minutes with alltel smartphone support and they had no solution other than saying they would send this to the group that reports issues to htc to work on a solution. they did offer me to return it but i like this phone too much. i am
sure we will figure it out soon enough.
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Ahh... I see that now and amazingly enough, mine has a line through it. I'll check that next time I can get the GPS to work and see if it changes.
Like you, I really like the phone but it greatly aggravates me that something so expensive doesn't work, as designed, out of the box.
I have had 3 alltel TP phones and all of them once 911 and location was set to on and quick gps was run once then they always got instant locks of 10 satellites. On my mogul the best i would ever get would be 4-6 satellites. Google & Live search use the intermediate driver with default settings with no lag and Iguidance (which is the best voiceprompt gps software) works with no lag when using Franson GPS gate as a virtual com port for the GPS driver.
bruceo said:
I have had 3 alltel TP phones and all of them once 911 and location was set to on and quick gps was run once then they always got instant locks of 10 satellites. On my mogul the best i would ever get would be 4-6 satellites. Google & Live search use the intermediate driver with default settings with no lag and Iguidance (which is the best voiceprompt gps software) works with no lag when using Franson GPS gate as a virtual com port for the GPS driver.
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If you go to your phone dialer, is there a "line" through the crosshair/circle icon?
I haven't been able to get a lock for couple days now. Bummer. I'm going to call Alltel tech support again and see what they say.
Ok, after not even beeing able to get more than a couple satellites being shown in GPS Test which means nothing more than a GPS Starting message, I decided to call tech support to see if they had documented any other issues with the phone since I last contacted them. I was told there are NO known issues with the Touch Pro (not even the problem with the speakerphone or the previously reported GPS issues).
After talking with tech support and they guy telling me that they get a number of calls for "other" GPS software programs but not too many for the Alltel Navagation program that they offer, he told me he can't help me with the other programs and I should contact their vendors. I tried to explain to him that one was a simple GPS Test program and the other was Google Maps but he kept saying that they don't really have problems with "their" GPS subscription program.
Being basically fed up and figuring it was worth the $10 to continue to troubleshoot this problem, I downloaded the Alltel Navagation program again. And guess what... IT WORKED. Guess what else... when I had the Alltel Navagation program working, GPS Test and Google Maps work fine too and I'm even inside a large building right now!!!
Does anybody have any "inside" on what is going on here? I know a number of Alltel people say the GPS on their Touch Pro works just fine using something like Google Maps. On mine, it "sometimes" works. I find it VERY odd that on my last Touch Pro phone I NEVER got even a single satellite to show until I downloaded the Alltel pay program. Now, with this phone, after struggling with it a bit I can "sometimes" get it to work but haven't been able to for a couple days, even after numerous soft resets but now, immediately after activating and running the Alltel program, my GPS starting working just peachy and even inside a large building!?!? I've got a full 5 bars in the Alltel GPS program inside. WHAT GIVES???
I'm going to pay for this Alltel program for a few days and see if I can consistently get a lock. If so, I'd sure like to know why the phone's GPS magically gets "better" so long as you pay for their service
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If you go to your phone dialer, is there a "line" through the crosshair/circle icon?
I haven't been able to get a lock for couple days now. Bummer. I'm going to call Alltel tech support again and see what they say.
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I am using the regular windows dialer and yes there is a line through the circle/crosshair.
I just went outside and launched Gpsgate/Iguidance and had 10 sattelites instantly, it has been at least a week since I have drove and used the GPS, but I use it all the time with no problems or lag. Inside I almost instantly get 6-7 sats. using Google maps or livesearch without GPS gate, only the MS intermediate driver I get instant locks as well. I ran quick GPS once about a month ago on this unit.
Please Help!!!
I love this ROM, but I cannot get good GPS quality with it. I know most people have no issue with this, but my GPS on my phone has always been finicky. I updated to Build 13 and Build 13 R2...and neither one allows my GPS to work. My GPS worked (although not really well) with all the other builds.
Here is the wierd part, when I travel out of my hometown (sarasota, FL) my GPS has always worked better. I work in Ocala and with Build 13 my GPS worked the other day, but not when I got home. I tried with the tweaks listed below and I tried before installing any tweaks, no luck...
I installed these tweaks:
GPS Registry - Alltel: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...0&d=1237009140 (direct d/l link FYI)
Turbo_GPS_Settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496800
Any help would be great, because GPS is my favorite feature on this phone.
**edit: I am using Google Maps**
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did you check your GPS signal? I recommended checking it out three times...
I checked the GPS Watcher program if that is what you are asking...
In Startmenu, System Tools, GPS Viewer,
COM port #4, or simply COM4 4800 BAUD and hit OPEN wait 20 seconds or so until signal settles down.
Please post signal(numbers inside bars) and number of sats detected.
That software has a bug that when you do get a fix, it doesn't tell you until you switch tab back and forth.
Reason I'm asking for this is that I want to make sure your GPS unit can receive signal before messing with anything else.
Reg hacks and roms are not going to help if your GPS unit is defective, right?
here is a screenshot of GPS Viewer. This is from Ocala, Fl were my gps works fine. When I am in Sarasota, fl (hometown) the GPS viewer finds no satellites.
From the looks of the numbers, it seems like to me that either your phone is located so that sky view is obstructed with something metallic or your inside building with windows. Right?
One you posted above is when GPS is operational, so, by comparing this screenshot with the other screenshot with GPS non-functional it will greatly help out in finding what is actually wrong.
As you might have figured out already, I prefer data collection first and then action later.
This might be a redundant question, but have you gone into your phone settings to make sure that Location settings are turned on? After that make sure that AGPS is enabled.
Yes NFSFANs rom has those settings by default, but thanks.
Here is the GPSViewer when I run it at my house. I had to leave it outside on my table for about 3-4 minutes and this is the signal I recieved. There were a few more bars but by the time I picked it up and ran CapSure they were gone...
Both were taken on a clear day outside of a building that obstructs the view slightly, but not enough to have much difference.
Oops I forgot the picture, here it is:
Did this happen recently? Some satellites go offline and online periodically and you just may be happen to be in the area where signal dark occures.
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Test with other Touch Pro phones nearby to confirm your GPS module pretty insensitive or not.
This is all I could think of, good luck.
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Did this happen recently? Some satellites go offline and online periodically and you just may be happen to be in the area where signal dark occures.
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Test with other Touch Pro phones nearby to confirm your GPS module pretty insensitive or not.
This is all I could think of, good luck.
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It has been weak since I have owned the phone. It has however worked in Sarasota 90% of the time and works in Ocala all the time.
The main issue I want resolved is why my GPS worked on NFSFANs 112 Rom and before, but doesn't work on 113 R1-3
Can anyone else help with this?
Can anyone tell me if that GPS Viewer app will display MPH (as opposed to km/h).
The GPS on my TP seems weak/inaccurate as well. I had a Mogul before & the GPS on it was dead on. I have had 2 TPs; the first one was horrible @ acquiring a signal. Even after using QuickGPS, it would still take forever outside. The one I have now acquires much faster, but tracking still is not as accurate as my Mogul.
I just did a hard reset and now my GPS doesnt work. It was fine before, I have the current MR1 rom update, and all was fine before. Now it just wont find any satellites. I have all the settings right, location on, Com4, 4800baud, managed by windows... I dont know what else to do other than another hard reset. I called verizon tech support, no help there. We did try VZ navigator, and it worked.
Jason
Change your radio. Happened to me and that was the culprit.
Has anyone else been having problems with their location and 3G signal?
For instance, every time an app needs my location, it says "Unable to detect current location". and the weather widget just says "Current Location". I've tried all the basics including disabling and re-nabling automatic time zone, restarting the phone, updating PRL and Profile, etc. Checked the settings in the weather widget and some settings were unchecked, but checking them didnt make a difference. It doesnt matter if its on Wi-Fi or 3G. It cannot seem to find my location. After updating the PRL (and contacting Sprint), it was finally able to find my location, but now its stuck on that location, even with a refresh. I'm 30 miles from the location its showing (as I travel across town for work).
Also, my 3G signal randomly drops every hour or so. Sometimes it comes back on its own, and other times, it does not. I have to go into options and manually disable and re-enable it.
I have an appointment at the Sprint store on Saturday, but I was wondering if you guys have found any fixes that would help me to avoid getting a new phone.
kennethbring said:
Has anyone else been having problems with their location and 3G signal?
For instance, every time an app needs my location, it says "Unable to detect current location". and the weather widget just says "Current Location". I've tried all the basics including disabling and re-nabling automatic time zone, restarting the phone, updating PRL and Profile, etc. Checked the settings in the weather widget and some settings were unchecked, but checking them didnt make a difference. It doesnt matter if its on Wi-Fi or 3G. It cannot seem to find my location. After updating the PRL (and contacting Sprint), it was finally able to find my location, but now its stuck on that location, even with a refresh. I'm 30 miles from the location its showing (as I travel across town for work).
Also, my 3G signal randomly drops every hour or so. Sometimes it comes back on its own, and other times, it does not. I have to go into options and manually disable and re-enable it.
I have an appointment at the Sprint store on Saturday, but I was wondering if you guys have found any fixes that would help me to avoid getting a new phone.
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lol man, I've got about 10 posts in viperrom thread about this same issue.
I don't have a (real) solution, but here's my take on it: My area was recently upgraded to 3G and this is the first sense rom I've used on those towers. For me, the problem has only been with Sense based widgets and apps. 4square, facebook, maps, everything else has no problem with my location (i always leave gps toggled on).
I go anywhere where the towers haven't been upgraded and BOOM, sense has my location within seconds. I think it has to do with the recent NV upgrades my area got and it not being fully completed.
For me to get correct location at home, I have to use wifi with home router, then use something that needs gps, then update the weather widget. That will normally hold it for a few hours.
Like I said, not a solution, but what I believe to be the cause of it. If I find a way of permanently fixing it, I'll let ya know.
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lol man, I've got about 10 posts in viperrom thread about this same issue.
I don't have a (real) solution, but here's my take on it: My area was recently upgraded to 3G and this is the first sense rom I've used on those towers. For me, the problem has only been with Sense based widgets and apps. 4square, facebook, maps, everything else has no problem with my location (i always leave gps toggled on).
I go anywhere where the towers haven't been upgraded and BOOM, sense has my location within seconds. I think it has to do with the recent NV upgrades my area got and it not being fully completed.
For me to get correct location at home, I have to use wifi with home router, then use something that needs gps, then update the weather widget. That will normally hold it for a few hours.
Like I said, not a solution, but what I believe to be the cause of it. If I find a way of permanently fixing it, I'll let ya know.
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Yeah, thats what Sprint told me when I called. That they recently upgraded the towers near my home. But across town where I work, it hasnt been upgraded, and its the same problem.
I do believe that has something to do with it though. Older versions of Sense didn't take the upgrade and thus arent having any problems.
Appreciate you keeping me in the loop!
kennethbring said:
Yeah, thats what Sprint told me when I called. That they recently upgraded the towers near my home. But across town where I work, it hasnt been upgraded, and its the same problem.
I do believe that has something to do with it though. Older versions of Sense didn't take the upgrade and thus arent having any problems.
Appreciate you keeping me in the loop!
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Exactly. I'm hoping that a future OTA will take care of it. I've sent a few emails to HTC regarding the issue. I know it's nothing huge nor serious, but it's nice when it works properly.
Well, at least I know I'm not the only one then. I guess swapping the phone wouldn't do much good if its tower related.
I feel like taking it into the Sprint store, the employees would just re-do everything I've already done and tell me to come back if it happens again.
I'm with bernechad in hoping a software update will fix it.
More info on the connection issue
I just got off the phone with HTC. They did not have this issue in their database but do now. I sent them a link to this thread. They did not have a clue about what to do to fix it.
For whoever is keeping the lists of locations where this is a problem I'm in Georgetown, TX.
You needn't read this thread. There is nothing of any import here.
I was unable to learn how to delete it, or I would have.
As I mentioned below, I manually updated this phone to Nougat using the LG Bridge program. It complicates matters that I can't remember the exact time-frame for issues. I do remember getting real-time traffic updates using google maps even after I upgraded to Android 7. And I did stream Netflix once while on a 12 hour roadtrip, but I can't remember if that was before or after the road-trip. I have found and tried many APN's for the H2O service. Some are supposedly specifically for the G5, others just for mms or internet. Most recently, I did a factory reset after backing up my personal data and media. Twice now actually. The first time, I ran the backup software soon after resetting and when things hadn't changed, I surmised that maybe I was just importing the problem back onto the phone in my settings or something, so I reset again and this time only chose two of the settings categories near the top of the list since they seemed separate to the navigation programming.
I'm going to reset again now and see if the maps work with a stock setup, then see if I can slowly add things one at a time and continually monitor the data functionality.
If a moderator sees this and can delete this post, I would appreciate it since it doesn't seem like it could be helpful to anyone else the way it is. If I am successful in getting the data working and this thread still remains, I will post the process I had followed to achieve that in an "Issue Solved" heading at the bottom. Everything between the snowflakes (*****) is the older post and edits.
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History of Issue(s):
>This is my first smartphone and my first Android device
> Bought phone used off swappa running MM 6.?
>Have owned phone for around 8 months
>Volume down button wasn't working, figured I could live with pressing vol up and moving it down manually.
> Thought it would be good idea to upgrade manually to Nougat (10h update) Using LG bridge (about 5 months ago?)
> My carrier is H2Owireless, an AT&T MVNO
> Used to have internet, google maps real-time traffic used to work, Netfilx used to work (both without WiFi).
> Could make calls, send texts, listen to Pandora or Spotify and use my Maps for commuting to work.
> Couldn't send MMS pic msgs.
> Began to learn about APN's and what the different network settings did.
>Tried many APN's and fotzed around with Global, LTE/CDMA, LTE/GSM/UMTS and the submode settings
>Can get 4G and LTE , often have to switch back to Global setting to send SMS/MMS
> Had H2O set up APN as best they knew and network settings to what they felt would work best
> Can do anything and evrything when Wifi is enabled (that's never been an issue)
> I thought phone had bricked about 2 months ago while on a roadtrip.
> Discovered on forum that I could swap cam plus for chin and power on that way.
> Turned out power button was no longer functional
> Learned about vol up + charger to power on phone (use an app to power off and restart phone)
> took off cam plus so I could have phone in case.
And now, I'm standing at the edge of a very deep rabbit hole with a phone that can't use mobile data for most internet access (spotify works, Pandora never worked very well). I've discovered that the version of Nougat I'm running is problematic (update 10h Brightpoint) and that my forcing the update to Nougat might be largely responsible for these issues.
I see myself having a choice between learning how to flash the phone back to Marshmallow, or learning how to flash it up to update 21c... or live without mobile data for most of the functionality I wanted from the phone...
I seek advice from the the forum for which of these options people think I might best choose. Do I need to acquaint myself with these programs used to flash the ROM? Does it seem to you readers that my problems are symptomatic of those which are best rectified by flashing up? Or rolling back to Marshmallow...
I just want to be able to google something while I'm away from wifi.. to get traffic updates while I'm using the navigation.. to listen to spotify.. maybe even watch something on netflix... (calling, SMS and MMS functionality is a given, but I do still have them for the most part).
I can pick things up if I read tutorials / guides... I've flashed PC BIOS before... I could figure it out if I needed to...
But maybe I just need a new chin or clean it? Maybe I should factory reset? Maybe there's other potential causes I'm unaware of?
Any and all suggestions are welcome. It's late here and I won't be reading any responses until tomorrow at work.
Thanking you very much in advance. --Wayne
Edit: I was about to check LG Bridge to see if there was an update available for nougat.. thought I would get this out there first since I was pretty sure I wouldn't get both done tonight..
3rd edit: I checked for LG update, nothing available. I finally decided to factory reset before getting into flashing. That seemed to fix the google maps issue as it seemed to be working without WiFi enabled (I say 'seemed' because my office is slightly below grade and getting a good signal is tough. If it's not working, the address remains grayed out and the connection just buffers, the address filled in after the reset. Then I decided to move some of the things I had backed up from the SD card but neglected to deselect the settings box. After restoring much of what I had backed up, It seemed more like how it had been before the reset. I noticed a small icon next to the signal type and strength meter at the top which hadn't been there before the reset (a small white square with rounded edges that has a zig-zag line going through it that kind of looks like a jagged "N"). Instead of saying offline, the app says poor connection, so I will test it on my way home.. I am hopeful. It seems promising. If I have to reset again, I will deselect settings and set things up fresh; I think that will help. I am beginning to think this isn't so much about my OS or any hardware failure as it is the H2O at&t mvno being throttled or something similar. Even when I'm getting 4 bars of 4G, the maps loads very slowly.. nothing at all like it does on WiFi.
I'll post a final edit after I try it out on the ride home this evening.
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