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Hello, I am new and not sure if this is the best place to post, but I just ordered an AT&T 8525, and once it arrives the first thing I plan to do is upgrade to WM6.0. But, I want to get rid of everything that AT&T put on there (logos, apps etc) and start with (what I imagine would be) the HTC version of the software.
I looked through the Wiki and can find dozens of versions, can someone point me to the right (and best/most stable) one that I need to clear off all the AT&T crap? Thanks.
the first and easiest way to clear off the at&t crap is to do a soft reset the moment the device tries to to the cusomization.
if you want to clear the at&t crap by installing a cooked rom, then please look in the Hermes WM6 forums. FYI there's is no "the best" choice when it comes to choosing a rom as there are so many choices and a lot of it comes down to personal preferences. good luck, welcome to the forums, and enjoy your new device
As XtreMe_G said, but if you want a stable rom as a starting block ( I flashed a Heap of roms before choosing which one I liked best) I would suggest TNT SE. It is pretty stable and has a heap of extras if you like that sort of thing. Ran pretty quick and was decent for me. If you want speed then you require a Lite rom. Pandora, and Shamanix are good for these but then so are Schapps & pays. As was stated above, it all comes down to personal preference. Whats good for me might be of no use to you. Experiment, But please read the wiki on the how to flash first. thats the single most important thing you can do. Suggest installing Olipro V7. BEFORE upgrading os as this helps if anything does go wrong. But as I said READ, READ, and then READ some more. Happy Upgrading And welcome to the community...
Thanks both, I have been reading and reading the Wiki plus various other posts. I have flashed a couple previous phones (Motorola V500, Samsung Blackjack) so have a little experience. Looking forward to upgrading the hermes when it arrives. I have already downloaded Schapps 4.31 but will also look into the TNT SE and installing Olipro V7 (I am guessing this is to do with Hard-SPL?).
thanks again.
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
timolol said:
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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Tim,
Since this will be closed very quickly by mods....read in this section for a lite roms...the cooks put in the heading if they make lite Roms. Click on the rom and read the first few pages and it will tell you what is included in it...some examples are Da G and NATF's. No one knows what "unnecessary programs and things installed" is because it is different for each person.
I would go with this one. Actually, I am. It has ZERO bloatware in it and is very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441109
I use the Optus stock ROM w/ 1.08.25.20M1 Radio. It's fantastic...
ROM link: http://210.64.124.194/download/RUU_...d_Raphael_CRC_52.33.25.17_1.02.25.19_Ship.exe
-Mc
Thanks for the suggestions guys. The Optus stock ROM is actually the one that came with my device originally since this is an Australian TP. If you don't think that any considerable performance gain can be had by installing a cooked ROM then I may as well stick with this. Thanks anyway
Tim
(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
You can flash any rom you want since most don't include a radio.
I use Da_G's Roms because they don't include ANYTHING. The ROM is a very basic WM6.1 rom with all of the latest drivers for the best performance. All programs outside of the standard windows apps are separate downloads which can be installed as you see fit.
This is nice because you get to see what a BASIC Windows Mobile environment is and what the phone runs like without all the extra HTC extras. It also gives a very good starting point to customize the phone the way YOU want.
The good thing is that because YOU install all the extras manually... you can also uninstall them in the event a newer version comes out.
There are other good ROMs too... but most come with a "standard" set of programs, most of which I don't ever use or want. I like Da_G's because I can be in control of what is on my phone.
My 2 cents.
timolol said:
(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
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so? new or not, it would make sense to read the wiki first. i think they even put sometihng in to tell u to read the wiki after signing up (though i'm not 100% about that), but either way, you should try doign some reading before posting. it can seem liek a lot to read, but if u want to make improvements to ur phoen, then take some time to invest in it.
ok couple vexing things happening here.
my device was using 90% memory no matter what I deleted. was running oem spl 1.1 and wm6 from HTC for a long time.
so after reading here, I upgraded to spl 1.2 and radio 1.58 with no problems THANKS XDA!
memory usage has gone way down. HOW can this BE? havent changed the WM6 just the radio and spl.
anyway the new issue is what ROM to choose! i do need pocket excel and word that comes with the wm6 on there now. but would also like faster performance if possible. does one rom run the athena faster than another?
so any input would be greatly appreciated.
oh also what is "AP4" and what is the advantages of SPL3.5 ? i wouldnt mind being able to partition the memory into one big section, since I run a 16GB mini sd card. is this possible?
sorry for the noob questions but everyone here was once a noob. everyone. lol
now... if this unit were only transflexive screen
I was never a noob. Seriously.
I suggest Michy's 4.1 for a solid and fast ROM. It also has some pre-installed software that activates the transflexive screen option.
1.2 and 3.5 are flavors of SPL. 3.5 basically gives more of your device's memory to the space where the ROM is. More space gives cooks more room to include more pre-installed software like that cool transflexive screen thing.
AP stands for Athena Project. In order to change from SPL 1.2 to 3.5 you should flash AP4. However, IMHO more recent ROMs like Michy's series have eclipsed AP4 in speed and features.
(Also, I advise you change your "16MB mini sd card" to a "16GB mini sd card" before people start pointing and laughing.)
a permanent non-noob, perfect person to be getting athena advice from!
transflexive is a hardware component, its the type of LCD that reflects but also has backlight. in the sunlight you can still easily see it because of the reflectivity, but at night, the backlight can shine through. you get viewability in both conditions with transflexive LCD technology. i have no idea why PDA's started moving away from having that.
anyway I looked at the ROM list for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518 and could not find a "4.1" rom so i think you mean 6.1 under Michyprima looks like the third and fourth ones WM6.1 Diamond and Full versions. What is the difference between diamond and full editions? Or am I looking at the wrong ones.
as to the storage, I have SPL 1.2 and the program vs storage allocation doesnt seem any different, is there something I need to do?
thanks
Hello and welcome to our forum!
I would suggest to use the ROM on this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=380 for your answer to the 1st post. You could find in post 1 and 2 some really good proposals!
As for Michy 6.1 ROM that exists here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371 read at the 3rd post you will find a link for the 4.1 version of this ROM, which many believe it's the most stable!
Please be kind to the persons who try to help you...
first, im not sure why I need to be advised to be kind and appreciative, Im known to my friends as both.
I very much appreciate any help I receive, and am teriffically grateful for this site, the roms and mods which take so much time to develop, and for any advice generously given by others.
anyway, back to the topic at ahnd because I am starting to understand, but that only generates more things to ask and discuss.
I just flashed SPL 1.2 to my device. you mentioned flashing AP4 to get SPL3.5 (but that its not much needed now). I saw SPL, Radio, and the ROM (operating system) as three separate software installs. So I guess I will go back and see what "AP4" is, unless its a ROM that includes the SPL?
anyway can it please be explained what Michy 4.1 rom would benefit vs my current WM6 that i got from HTC last year for the 7500?
thanks to all!
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first, im not sure why I need to be advised to be kind and appreciative, Im known to my friends as both.
I very much appreciate any help I receive, and am teriffically grateful for this site, the roms and mods which take so much time to develop, and for any advice generously given by others.
anyway, back to the topic at ahnd because I am starting to understand, but that only generates more things to ask and discuss.
I just flashed SPL 1.2 to my device. you mentioned flashing AP4 to get SPL3.5 (but that its not much needed now). I saw SPL, Radio, and the ROM (operating system) as three separate software installs. So I guess I will go back and see what "AP4" is, unless its a ROM that includes the SPL?
anyway can it please be explained what Michy 4.1 rom would benefit vs my current WM6 that i got from HTC last year for the 7500?
thanks to all!
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Yes welcome,
Michy's 4.1 rom was one of those roms that everything worked well on, it had only a few tiny bugs in it, the same as a stock rom. On his SPL 3.5 4.1 rom, opera plays most flash web sites (youtube, Guba, ect) without any work. It also has many other programs that you wonder how you managed without on it. Your stock rom is just the basics, so you buy the other software!! If you do go go on to SPL 3.5, make sure you start with AP 4.0 as you were told first. then go on to another rom. If you wnt to go back to SPL 1.2 you MUST use the downgrade first. If you forget or try to short cut it will mess up your athena and you will hve to fix it. The best advice I can give you after years on this site is READ THE WIKI
Im not a noob now, but im still lerning. There are some very clever people on here.
Regards
Jay
Hi Jay, thanks man!
I will read the wiki now that Im at work I can do that.
Any chance you could post a link to that 4.1 rom though it's not in the ROM list post that i can find, and a search on "4.1" doesnt yield anything so a Link would be greatly appreciated and I'll load it right away.
Thanks again and yes I'll be getting into the WIKI now. I love the Athena, and cannot believe there really is nothing else with it's features that i can find. At least used ones are coming down in cost, in case I break or lose mine. I rely on it every day for my work and other things.
In fact I just ordered a Ram Mount for mounting it in the car.
The link you want is HERE, I know it says 6.1 but keep going down past all the screen shots and you will get to the links for all of Michy's roms till you see 4.1. try SPL 1.2 first and see if you like it. However if you do then I recomend SPL 3.5 version. They are all worth a try at some time, 6.1 is very swish
WIKI is ace! Its a bible of nearly all known problems you can get with the athena (go down through all the PDA's till you see the athena). Just watch out swapping SPL's, it tends to leave you without WiFi.
ok found it thank you. only now, link dont work!!! arghhhh
I'll try again later perhaps...
[4.1]
SPL1.2: http://www.tdgoodshosting.com/Athena...R4.1-MiChY.rar
caution
Trying that link again got my IE to open dozens of windows, I had to shut down no other method would get it to stop.
Wish that ROM was hosted on rapidshare instead!
And of course this one (different rom but I was willing to try it) was deleted on rapidshare due to no downloads for too long:
Download link SPL1.2: http://rapidshare.de/files/40006763/...MiChY.rar.html
idea: maybe this site could start hosting at least some of the more popular files?
Michy 4.1 link
This is a link to Michy 4.1 SPL 1.2 for you I just uploaded http://rapidshare.com/files/217508231/Athena_SPL1.2_WWE_WM6.1_R4.1-MiChY.zip.html
Jay
much obliged Jay. I did d/l a couple other roms to try sometime, but I'm glad to have this one as it was said to be most stable and as a bonus has tcmp ability for youtube and most flash content. thanks again we'll see how it goes...
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This is a link to Michy 4.1 SPL 1.2 for you I just uploaded http://rapidshare.com/files/217508231/Athena_SPL1.2_WWE_WM6.1_R4.1-MiChY.zip.html
Jay
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I used this one for months now but just swapped to the SPL 3.5 version and it seems to have the edge. try it for a week or so and see what you think.
I got the 4.1 n there now. like it! finally I have control over the device I paid so much for. and the advanced settings is awesom. so many simple things like now I can make the camera save to the sd card, and numerous other annoyances now gone.
couple issues though, first the voice control seems difficult. not as straight up as voice dial, and the recording process hesitates a lot, and the recorded command seems also to stutter. i'll keep playing with it tho.
i would like to have a battery indicator on the today screen. not sure if tahts possible or I just didnt find it yet.
youtube player finds videos with search, but they wont play, I get some kind of security cookie error.
flash content doesnt play, which it never did but not sure if this new cooked rom will let me get that to work (WHY wont adobe just release a player for WM?)
anyway I'm liking all these new features so thank you for the d/l and the others for the advice.
btw what specifically gives spl3.5 an edge?
Michy's 4.1 rom - where??
cash365 said:
Hello and welcome to our forum!
I would suggest to use the ROM on this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=380 for your answer to the 1st post. You could find in post 1 and 2 some really good proposals!
As for Michy 6.1 ROM that exists here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371 read at the 3rd post you will find a link for the 4.1 version of this ROM, which many believe it's the most stable!
Please be kind to the persons who try to help you...
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Hi
A number of you guys have mentioned Michy's 4.1 Rom but the link doesn't work. Can anybody please reupload this rom for SPL1.2 or provide a working link?
sorry guys, just read all the last page and found it, thanx
go back up 4 posts, jay kindly put a link to it, which I d/l ed and now familiarizing with....
AdvantageGuy said:
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Trying that link again got my IE to open dozens of windows, I had to shut down no other method would get it to stop.
Wish that ROM was hosted on rapidshare instead!
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Sorry to mess with you about the transflective screen thing. I was just joking around.
I've got 4.1 kicking around here somewhere and will upload it to rapidshare asap. Here's the link.
http://rapidshare.com/files/217625607/Athena_SPL1.2_WWE_WM6.1_R4.1-MiChY__1_.zip.html
" It also has some pre-installed software that activates the transflexive screen option."
How can I get this app for another ROM.
thanks,
tovarish
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" It also has some pre-installed software that activates the transflexive screen option."
How can I get this app for another ROM.
thanks,
tovarish
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Oh no tovarish! You bit on the noob bait!
As the OP rightly commented, transflexive is a property of the screen hardware. No software can change the Athena's screen to transflexive.
Hi
Sorry - but something of a newbie question...
I've Security Unlocked my phone (yehee!) inc HardSPL. Now I have the urge to do something more exciting with it... but haven't a clue where to start!
Can I just load a new ROM on, or do I need to load other things to go with it?
Can anyone recommend a good ROM to try first? Ideally something with a quite clean interface (perhaps 'Diamond'ish?). Or maybe list one or two options?
Are there any versions which are known to be stable, as opposed to bang up to date, but not fully tested - or are they all works in progress?
DO I need to update my radio / HardSPL 1.15? Currently R1.58.16.27 / G25.61.30.03H
Many thanks to anyone who take the trouble to answer.
You can start playing with HardSpl 1.22, then continue with the radio version, and, finally, try a couple of ROM'S i.e. LUZY is very nice, smooth, and includes Manilla 2D.
Recomendations
I would highly recommend upgrading your Hard SPL to 1.22 as most new ROMs require this and upgrade your radio also (I am using 1.71.09.01, find it superb). I can also recommend Nemanjlo's WM6.5 Rom I used to flash a ROM a week but since having this one I love it. There is a thread dedicated to plugins and extras for customizing WM6.5 check the "WM6.5 Tips and Tricks" Thread a guy called TWolf has done some amazing flash stuff with 6.5. There are also links to some amazing widgets in that thread: Weather, Facebook, You Tube and Twitter to name a few
Hope This Helps
Hi Guys
Many thanks for the suggestions. Exactly what I was hoping for and very nice to get clear, straight answers.
GM
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....I can also recommend Nemanjlo's WM6.5 Rom I used to flash a ROM a week but since having this one I love it....
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Do you use the latest version? Or is there an earlier 'stable' version you've stuck with?
Also, he seems to have 4 versions! Standard and Lite for 2G and 3G. Which do you recommend?
What is the difference between the 2G and 3G? If it makes a difference, I'm with UK T-Mob and have an account with inclusive data.
Thanks
GM
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...try a couple of ROM'S i.e. LUZY is very nice
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Hi - I can't seem to find this - can you point me in the right direction please?
Regards
Adam
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........What is the difference between the 2G and 3G? If it makes a difference, I'm with UK T-Mob and have an account with inclusive data.
GM
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I think the difference between 3G and 2G is the video calling (Which I never use) I have the latest standard version of the ROM with the 3G dialer (Skinned) it is fast and stable. My "Today screen" is a project being run by the titanium crew (Check the "Tips and Tricks Thread") to make it look like WM7
Backup
This may be a bit patronising but I would recommend using "PIMBackup" (Search for PIMbackup using the forum to download) and backup all of your info to your Memory card. This will cover things like Contacts, Text and Emails.
If you have any bought or newly installed programes on your device make sure you have all the activation codes available and CAB files on your storage card or PC. As when you flash a ROM it is like a hard reset, everything will be wiped and can be a bit of a pain reinstalling everything if you do not have it to hand.
I have a folder on my storage card called CABS and I simply go down the list after a ROM flash reinstalling everything.
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This may be a bit patronising ...
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Not at all - thanks!
I managed to wipe everything when I first loaded HardSPL. Fortunately, I have most of the cabs and much of the data was reinstalled by ActiveSync. But I suspect I lost some things I'd prefer to have kept.
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My "Today screen" is a project being run by the titanium crew (Check the "Tips and Tricks Thread") to make it look like WM7
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Thanks again. I'm away for a couple of weeks now - but will try these out when I get back.
Are there any manilla looking roms, or nice looking roms that still have touchcube? I just dont like the manilla actions and want to keep the touchcube. Is there anything?
is there a wiki or thread that says which roms can be used on 20 key Neons?
1st- no pc experience. eww. mac based, no boot camp, parallels, or any pc stuffs on my workstation, because its mission critical.
i see you guys usually give a lot of options as far as custom roms, but i want the idiots guide. do it like this and you cant fail guide.
my phones performance has deteriorated, and has been hard-reset twice to no avail. So before i smash this thing (seriously almost tossed it like twice already). I want to crush it so badly.....help!
questions:
can i do this without a pc?
is there a 6.5 rom that i could use?
is there a custom rom that has all of the standard sprint apps?
tell me the best, most stable one to use if i can- and WHY?
thanks in advance
Try this...
ashmadux said:
1st- no pc experience. eww. mac based, no boot camp, parallels, or any pc stuffs on my workstation, because its mission critical.
i see you guys usually give a lot of options as far as custom roms, but i want the idiots guide. do it like this and you cant fail guide.
my phones performance has deteriorated, and has been hard-reset twice to no avail. So before i smash this thing (seriously almost tossed it like twice already). I want to crush it so badly.....help!
questions:
can i do this without a pc?
is there a 6.5 rom that i could use?
is there a custom rom that has all of the standard sprint apps?
tell me the best, most stable one to use if i can- and WHY?
thanks in advance
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Here you go man, this is what you need to unlock your phone without having to use a pc or mac for that matter, you can unlock the phone with your microSD card with these instructions and learn some more incase you ever have to flash back to stock. (sorry, link from ppcgeeks, I am sure there is one here at xda but this is the one i knew of...)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=61333
as far as a rom that is 6.5, that is totally up to you, I have a hard time sticking with one. I usually use VETVITO/ENERGY/NFSFANS/and Mighty roms and constantly flash to their newest and greatest. here are some links to their roms...
VETVITO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=570186
NFSFANS: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=98809
there are more others, you are going to have to search on what you need. I find that for CDMA devices PPCGEEKS has a bit more roms.
I started here at XDA when I flashed my first phone and people here help you out so dont feel bad asking questions, if its not out there, someone will help you find it.