Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs... - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

Hello all,
Everyone, including myself, is eagerly anticipating the release of ROM 4.0 for the Athena Project. I'm confident that everyone agrees that the project was an extreme success.
That said, we're recruiting for 4 new team members. We're calling 2 of the new additions "Spotters". We also need an expert designer who will be dedicated to graphics for the project and also an expert audio person dedicated to ring tones, special sounds, etc for the project.
While two of the titles and requirements for the new "positions" are obvious and require no explanation...I feel that the position of "Spotter" requires a bit of explanation to ensure we get the right fit.
What is a Spotter? According to the project's need, this is someone who knows the forum well, is resourceful, has time on their hands, is dedicated to the cause and has a good eye for useful utilities and programs to add to the ROM project.
Utilities should be freeware, lite on resources, enhance the device's functionality either by replacing existing apps/utilities or just provide a new way of doing "something".
Good examples are utilities that fit the description above are: WKTask, QuickMenu, TotalCommander, FTouchFlo and config, HTC Album, Flashlight, and so on.
Feel free to post your questions here.
Please note that not all submissions of art/audio/apps recommendations will be included. Remember, as always, no commercial apps/utils.
If you're interested in any of the positions mentioned above, please PM me and boinger66.
Core team members for Athena Project 4.0 goals:
ltxda: Team leader and tester.
boinger66: Expert tester, support and then some.
PK: Head cook.
Cmonex: Cook/Cracker/ExpertSupport.
Midget: Cook and core provider.
Olipro: Unlocker and ExpertSupport.

My suggestions
pmClean - I like it because you can schedule a reboot
http://www.pocketmax.net/redial.html
Advanced Configuration Tools - looks interesting, haven't tried it on my Athena
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-advanced-configuration-tools-v2-0-2-0.html
The Wifi profiles and Wifi sharing programs here might be good additions too.
Thanks for all the teams hard work, I am looking forward to version 4

Goatmaster said:
My suggestions
pmClean - I like it because you can schedule a reboot
http://www.pocketmax.net/redial.html
Advanced Configuration Tools - looks interesting, haven't tried it on my Athena
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-advanced-configuration-tools-v2-0-2-0.html
The Wifi profiles and Wifi sharing programs here might be good additions too.
Thanks for all the teams hard work, I am looking forward to version 4
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Thank you for your suggestion. Keep these coming!

Auto redial helpful when the number you are calling is busy configurable FREE using it on PK 3.0
http://pocketmax.net/redial.html
RotateSE mapping to a hardware button FREE using it also on PK 3.0
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp?id=prod6672643

SDAutoRun gives customziation to everybody!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366333
I hope these will help

Free Tengo:
www.free.tengo.net
VGA keyboard that has an beautiful English Keyboard (QWERTY and T9)and Allows Chinese Characters input (VGA version from this link)
http://www.a4user.com/A4_down_sip.asp
Free Chinese Font to enable correct display of websites containing chinese characters
http://www.trendsmobile.com/download/fontpatch.cab
Opera Mini 4 - better than the regular Opera Browser
http://www.operamini.com/
WMWIFIRouter
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
SjPhone (VOIP client)
http://www.sjphone.org/preview/SJphone-1.60-WindowsCE(preview)/SJphone-wm5.0-320b.cab
Netfront browser 3.5 (valid until May) - very fast browser.
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/index.html
Device Lock
http://www.mr2-power.com/downloads/DeviceLock.CAB
USB Setting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361050
cLaunch
http://home.pacific.net.sg/~welic/claunch.html
Ringtone that you can hear but many others can't
http://www.freemosquitoringtones.org/
Free Phone Profile
http://www.winmobileapps.com/device/pocketpc/plt/plt.aspx
Of course, realVGA, wktask, TCPMP with FlashBundles and all the codecs, Total Commander.
Secondary Splash screen: If a person uses safe mode, there will be typically a bottom line which bumps the splash screen upward and distort it. So when designing the graphics, do not use the upper and lower portion of the secondary splash screen for any text. Instead, make it quite empty so that the bump would not distort it visually.

vjsxda said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366333
I hope these will help
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Thank you. Already in there.
It's a great one indeed!

Netfront browser 3.5 (valid until May) - very fast browser.
http://www.access-company.com/produc...ser/index.html

Advanced Configuration Tools new version 2.1.0.0:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1367082&postcount=1
Enabled all Energy saving settings and got a little boost with AP3.0!
This tool is great and small and everything working. Perfect for Ext-ROM.
Netfront browser is really great, but not freeware.
Netfront releases trials of new demoversions, which run until a certain period. (May 2008)
They can't be activated after this period! The full version is another download.
Could you tell us exactly which graphics you need? (Splash, Background, WM-Player skin,...?), so maybe users can post their graphics here, and maybe we'll get a battle for the best ones.

Addition Recommendations
Evreyday I scout these forums and always find something new.Ive been handling PPC devices for years.
As for my recommendations ..
-Eten G500 FM Tuner (If FM Can Be Hacked Into It)
-FTouchFlo 1.4.1 w/ Schaps Config Tool
-SCLC++ (Slither Plans VGA Version Soon)
-S2U2 0.99c
-S2V 0.33
-Schaps Advanced Tools 2.2/1?
-BroadCom Stack (I Posted A Somewhat Working Version By Helmi In Athena Upgrade Forum While ago, Maybe Helmi can help fully port with simple tweaks)
-Gps Monitor
-Flashlite 2.1/3
-Flashplayer 7
-Storage Manager (Great For Microdrive, can even partition it)
-VOIP Fully Working with Config (This is more likely a request)
-WMStorage 1.8 or newer
WMWifiRouter 1.9.1
If you need links and or cabs feel free to PM me.Wanted to keep thread short so this is to me a brief list, I could be missing things .

I would suggst using the Esmertec Java framework rather than standard midi unless you opt for no midi preinstalled.

Ap 4.0 = 6.1 ??
ltxda: Team leader and tester.
boinger66: Expert tester, support and then some.
PK: Head cook.
Cmonex: Cook/Cracker/ExpertSupport.
Midget: Cook and core provider.
Olipro: Unlocker and ExpertSupport.[/QUOTE]
This new rom will be WM6.1 I guess.
Regards

Hi Guys
Can we get a cutoff date
else we will have to wait too long 4 the final product
Maybe we can create a forum with PK4 "approved" apps
Keep up the good work!

bharatrit said:
ltxda: Team leader and tester.
boinger66: Expert tester, support and then some.
PK: Head cook.
Cmonex: Cook/Cracker/ExpertSupport.
Midget: Cook and core provider.
Olipro: Unlocker and ExpertSupport.
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This new rom will be WM6.1 I guess.
Regards[/QUOTE]
Advantge X7510's ROM? Coming out just around the corner in March. May be not. The hardware is different.
But get the Opera 9.5 from the X7510 please.

I have used TouchFLo in the past, but have completely given it up for one reason: it destroyed the audio feedback or the touch screen sound effect. Fo me, sound is too important to be sacrificed.
I hope the touchflo in X7501 keeps the sound. If it does, we should get it from there.

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Advantge X7510's ROM? Coming out just around the corner in March. May be not. The hardware is different.
But get the Opera 9.5 from the X7510 please.
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Any info on the x7510? New one to me!!

wgary said:
Any info on the x7510? New one to me!!
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/11/htc-advantage-x7510-now-upgraded-with-16gb-flash-memory/

wgary said:
Any info on the x7510? New one to me!!
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Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367704

Confucious said:
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367704
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Geez. My dyslexia kicked in, didn't notice that it wasn't 7501. This will finally fuel my lust for a new device. I've been happy for 9 months, which is actually 30 years in technology-years. But it doesn't look that much enhanced. I'm surprised.

yes 4.0 will be 6.1 eather build 19174 or 19188. these are the latest aku 1.0 builds(microsoft is playing games with build numbers, u have to have good microsoft sources to know whats new and old ) wont say anything about rest though.

Related

Some new Athena user questions

Hey everyone,
I've been using a WM device for 2 years, a good and old KJAM and now the X7500. As you may have seen in my previous post, I'm going to use the X7500 as a UMPC together with my KJAM. I don't plan to ditch the KJAM, as I'm going to keep using it as my PDA and phone. The main purposes of the X7500 would be browsing (WIFI or HSDPA), watching movies, gaming and maybe some document editing.
I have to say, that I got lost trying searching and reading posts around here, and there seem to be a lot of confusion about many things, so I'm gonna ask some questions that I couldn't find one straight updated answer for. I know that these questions have been asked a lot of times, but as I said, there wasn't any clear answer for them (hopefully there is now).
1. I need a good, fast and reliable WM6/WM6.1 ROM. I don't need many features, just simple and as fast as possible. What do u recommend? By the way, if I flash another ROM will it change my device ID? I have bought a program that is registered to that specific device, and by changing the ID that program won't work.
2. BT mouse. how good does it work with the Athena? Will it slow down the system? Will it work with any program (esp. browsers)? How about connecting a USB mouse through the 4-in-1 cable, would it work?
3. Browser. We have a great device, amazing screen but I feel that no browser is good enough for it. I don't want anything fancy, but I want it to be fast and support tabbed browsing. Opera mini is fast enough, but it lacks an option to browse with XX% zoom out permanently like Opera, Netfront or even IE. All of the above are pretty good by the way, but they are simply too slow. Actually, I don't get that. Why are they so slow browsing with WIFI or 3.5G? Opera mini does the job faster, my desktop with the same connection does it faster, what's causing their lag? I found out that browsing through my desktop with LOGMEIN from the X7500 is even faster (but annoying).
Any browser that will hit the spot? Any way to speed things up?
4. Task manager. I want a program that will give me the multi-tasking capability of a desktop PC without slowing down the device. basically I need instant access to all the open programs in the same way the taskbar works on Windows. If the program will give me the option to choose whether to minimize or close a window, it would be better.
5. Printer. Can I plug a USB printer, or can I use only network/BT printers with the device?
6. Any other tips of-course would me most welcomed.
I hope you had the patience to read all of those questions, and maybe even more patience to answer them. Thanks a lot to everyone around here....
best rom? athena project 3. cannot be beaten. ther's a rule on here where theres no posting of roms allowed except project kitchen. This rom is made by people working all day on it, and a new version is released like every 3 months. because thats how long it takes to make it perfect. Im fairly sure the new one is being released this week. but dont quote me on that.
You named all the browsers anyone would suggest, so I cant really recommend anything.
For taskbar id say use wisbar if you need loads of features and skinnable taskbar along with cascading start menu like real windows, or wktask for just sortof tabbed taskbar. wktask is embedded into the rom I mentioned.
hope this helps
Rory
rorydaredkign said:
best rom? athena project 3. cannot be beaten. ther's a rule on here where theres no posting of roms allowed except project kitchen. This rom is made by people working all day on it, and a new version is released like every 3 months. because thats how long it takes to make it perfect. Im fairly sure the new one is being released this week. but dont quote me on that.
You named all the browsers anyone would suggest, so I cant really recommend anything.
For taskbar id say use wisbar if you need loads of features and skinnable taskbar along with cascading start menu like real windows, or wktask for just sortof tabbed taskbar. wktask is embedded into the rom I mentioned.
hope this helps
Rory
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First of all, thanks a lot for your comment. I don't really understand what you mean by no ROM postings allowed around here. If I want a lighter ROM than Athena Project, and afraid to cook myself one, I'm out of luck? nobody can even publish their cooked versions of the AP ROMs?
There is no rule like that at all.
If you decide to cook a ROM, feel free to post it. The Athena Project do some great work, but they don't own these public forums.
i dont want to argue about it , but if that's the case, then why is there only one cooked rom avalable? plus check the sticky called proj ct kitchen to see where i got the impression that you cant.
Rory
kramerica2 said:
1. I need a good, fast and reliable WM6/WM6.1 ROM. I don't need many features, just simple and as fast as possible. What do u recommend? By the way, if I flash another ROM will it change my device ID? I have bought a program that is registered to that specific device, and by changing the ID that program won't work.
2. BT mouse. how good does it work with the Athena? Will it slow down the system? Will it work with any program (esp. browsers)? How about connecting a USB mouse through the 4-in-1 cable, would it work?
3. Browser. We have a great device, amazing screen but I feel that no browser is good enough for it. I don't want anything fancy, but I want it to be fast and support tabbed browsing. Opera mini is fast enough, but it lacks an option to browse with XX% zoom out permanently like Opera, Netfront or even IE. All of the above are pretty good by the way, but they are simply too slow. Actually, I don't get that. Why are they so slow browsing with WIFI or 3.5G? Opera mini does the job faster, my desktop with the same connection does it faster, what's causing their lag? I found out that browsing through my desktop with LOGMEIN from the X7500 is even faster (but annoying).
Any browser that will hit the spot? Any way to speed things up?
4. Task manager. I want a program that will give me the multi-tasking capability of a desktop PC without slowing down the device. basically I need instant access to all the open programs in the same way the taskbar works on Windows. If the program will give me the option to choose whether to minimize or close a window, it would be better.
5. Printer. Can I plug a USB printer, or can I use only network/BT printers with the device?
6. Any other tips of-course would me most welcomed.
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1) I will suggest PK3.0 as the fastest IMHO, we are waiting the new WM6.1 (4.0 release) The .NET re-designed will improve the speed as is happening in many other ROMs. We are waiting also the results of the Athena Team tuning: wait the WM6.1 may be in the next week.
I have increased the speed using MEMMAID, (www.dinarsoft.com) as mantainance and optimizzation tool. The rom's speed depends only from chef choices for the first start but later is related to many other things. Manteinance is the best way to keep it fast
1b) Device ID changed? may be not, we will see...
2) I use a wired optical mouse and it works just as is supposed to do
3) opera 9.5 is fast, the beta is out and it is finger friendly and fast . Netfront 3.5 is fast too, I chose Opera
4) wktask is part of PK rom, you can download it here http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html and it does exactly what you need
5) Yes, BT or network, having jetcet print
ROM cooking is free and WELCOMED here!
rorydaredkign said:
i dont want to argue about it , but if that's the case, then why is there only one cooked rom avalable?
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There are a couple of others floating around if you search hard enough.
But the Athena Project roms are so good, everyone seems to use them.
fair enough mate. I have been reading the athena forums for abut 3 months, and never seen any other rom... theres so few posts daily, im sure I would have noticed
Rory
rorydaredkign said:
fair enough mate. I have been reading the athena forums for abut 3 months, and never seen any other rom... theres so few posts daily, im sure I would have noticed
Rory
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This is the 6.1 porting from Kaiser I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363542
I think a lot of the browser slowness is down to windows mobile itself. Not sure why. Even the Opera Mini Java midlet is faster on the Symbian OS than on Windows Mobile. Netfront and Opera 9.5 are big improvements on what was available last year though, and Opera will no doubt have a few tweaks before its official release. No Flash or Java add-ons though still
Apparently someone has already managed to play youtube with Opera. Not sure if it is true as he has not responded to request for the cab file yet.
edit: This gentleman gave an update. He had earlier managed to make it work by editing the axobjects.ini file to effect the following changes:
[Shockwave Flash]
CLSID={EB8B5B8E-EDB9-4180-9E2E-F8F1632DC171} #FlashLite RAC;/\\ (M
Alias={D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000} #Flash (desktop)
Description=Macromedia Flash Player 7.0 Y8jt_XD;Z
FileExtents=swf|spl|flv
MIMEType = application/x-shockwave-flash|application/futuresplash I_hAgk 04
FileOpenName=Adobe Flash movie (*.swf)|FutureSplash movie (*.spl)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.mfp)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.flv)
Allow=Url|Embed|Object|Scripts
He had posted some screen capture of his earlier success, but found that subsequently it stopped working mysteriously. Anyway, he also said that he is sure when FL3 (instead of Flash player 7) is avaialble this would work.
The trouble is, will adobe release a FL3 for winmo platform...
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The above works. Make sure you have installed flash player 7 and make the above edit to the ini file.
eaglesteve said:
Apparently someone has already managed to play youtube with Opera. Not sure if it is true as he has not responded to request for the cab file yet.
edit: This gentleman gave an update. He had earlier managed to make it work by editing the axobjects.ini file to effect the following changes:
[Shockwave Flash]
CLSID={EB8B5B8E-EDB9-4180-9E2E-F8F1632DC171} #FlashLite RAC;/\\ (M
Alias={D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000} #Flash (desktop)
Description=Macromedia Flash Player 7.0 Y8jt_XD;Z
FileExtents=swf|spl|flv
MIMEType = application/x-shockwave-flash|application/futuresplash I_hAgk 04
FileOpenName=Adobe Flash movie (*.swf)|FutureSplash movie (*.spl)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.mfp)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.flv)
Allow=Url|Embed|Object|Scripts
He had posted some screen capture of his earlier success, but found that subsequently it stopped working mysteriously. Anyway, he also said that he is sure when FL3 (instead of Flash player 7) is avaialble this would work.
The trouble is, will adobe release a FL3 for winmo platform...
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The above works. Make sure you have installed flash player 7 and make the above edit to the ini file.
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It's very jerky though. Still better off with the flash plugin. There's an application called EMTube on Symbian devices, would be nice to see it on winmo as it allows access to all the youtube Videos at high quality without loading up the browser at all. There's the Vtap application but that always seemed a bit stodgy to me.
On the subject of Fl3.0 you may have a long wait yet - it's still only been integrated into the N95 8gb, don't know what Adobe are playing at with the rollout for this - it was released as a developers' testing package over five months ago, at this rate someone's going to develop a workaround that screws them over: I HOPE AND PRAY!
That's why there was no excitement in my post.It's not really watchable.
I would still prefer to use PIE with TCPMP to download it first then watch it.
Hello,
I have been using the HTC WM6 ROM HERE and its been great. I wanted a basic ROM with no whistles and bows to get used to the device. Mine had the T-Mobile ROM on, nothing wrong with it but the phone dialer and theme are awful in my view. I tried both opera and net 3.5 and both show great promise, but they aren't ready yet. I ended up just getting one of the IE addon's that hanango do, fine for now. interesting to hear about the things you can use through the USB port. Ive been using the universal and stuff like that doesn't work on it. I think I need to go back and read up more!
Take care
Jay

Rom Update ???

Well I finally have my new device and it looks like i might have a little time this weekend to make an update and fix some minor bugs in my rom. please post suggestions here. All suggestions need to be in my friday midnight EST. thanks
How about making these changes to your last ROM?
- 16mb page pool to see if it goes a little faster.
- Do not auto download the quick gps data during the setting phase, since the device does not have time and data connection yet at that phase.
- update the large menu text cab so that it works. I had to look for the cab elsewhere last time.'
- Focus on speed.
- Keep it ultra vanilla. This is your number one selling point for me. I don't want all third party application to be chosen by myself and not seeing duplicated application/old versions/unused application.
- Make sure it is spl1.2. Do not want to lose memory for useless applications.
- If you intent to use newer built (Are you thinking of Touch Pro?), make sure it still supports Gsen application, and has random access for contact application. I personally love these two features.
- Make sure it has no htc touchflo or Ftouchflo. Have Ftouchflosl trial version if you wish. Else leave it for user to decide.
- Again, leaveb out realVGA. Some of us don't use it anymore.
- Continue to leave out HTC Home, and have just one theme. HTC Home They are all add ons.
- An important bug to fix is its inabikity to delete POP3 mails. Currently I can only delete non-POP3 mail, but for my pop3 mail, I'm forced to sign into the web-mail to delete them to prevent mail-box overflow. This is a pain.
Frankly, I'm still so happy with your last ROM, although I feel the speed could be further improved. So if there is only one change, let there be just speed improvement.
Thanks irus. I look forward to your fantastic ROM.
I'm now using Michy's rom whose main merits are speed and stability, but I like your Gsen function very much. I hope you can integrate the above-mentioned features in your new rom.
I would suggest no changing from your latest rom which I think is perfect, only bugfixes.
Changing could be for a newer release while I think your last one deserves just a trimming to be a reference rom. (I can't download full messages from the mail program???)
I would say fix the known bugs, increase speed if possible. After releasing that version, you can spend sometime looking at other possibilities (lite version, other builds or base, new features, etc...).
The lite / vanilla builds never actually worked in the long run for me because it always seemed something was missing which caused other applications not to work properly. They always seemed fast and potentially stable for a few weeks. After installing my apps and heavy usage, it always seemed to have gone down hill. Nonetheless, a lot PPL here love them.
It is also very important that auto rotate, gsen, and other features continue to work because I believe a lot of PPL stuck with this base because that stuff work well with on this ROM.
I never tried your rom mainly because I had the impression it was missing MMS. I know it is fairly easy to install myself, but I hadn't time to look for a proper version.
If your rom contains MMS, then forget about this post
Yes! also mms. I would consider the missing of it nearly a bug to be fixed as it is a standard feature of the athena missing... It is true that most of us don't use mms, but just in case...
ok these are all good suggestions, i will keep them in mind
I currently use your FULL ROM/3.5 and find it to be excellent. I hope you will NOT include any real VGA additions. Every one of them I have tried so far causes display problems with my "must use" apps.
Thanks for all your hard work.
I've tested All Athena ROM available.
I am using now the Sogarth base, isn't the fastest, isn't the most complete, but it is stable, has gsensor, big htc home, audio player doesn't stop working in suspend mode, index bar in contacts, battery life is great WITH BT enabled and some diamond enhancements.
The probem is ... it has to be tweaked
.net35 AND net2.0 to have compatibility with older and newest applications (modaco netcf config), some registry tweaks to improve the speed , michy's sound enhancement are much better, athena sensor service has to be stopped, IMHO are needed:
1) a newest remote desktop,
2) wifirouter (ori ICS control) ,
3) schaps advanced config ,
4) moblue,
5) total commander,
6) irus fsplayer,
7) pocketrar,
8) omnia d3d drivers,
9) Gsen,
10) wkTask (HTC Xbutton removed),
11) cyberon voice dial
12) I need mms too
I don't need realvga, the applications I like could use VGA resolution without realvga! Last, but not least, having and athena ROM CLOSER to diamond ROM should be easy to have compatibility with diamond and raphael applications (the most "developed" HTC model)
I strongly suggest a newest Sogarth, not "Extreme" but improved one (SPL 3.5). and "Extreme Sogarth" lite SPL 1.2 and 3.5 tweaked for maximum speed
irus said:
Well I finally have my new device and it looks like i might have a little time this weekend to make an update and fix some minor bugs in my rom. please post suggestions here. All suggestions need to be in my friday midnight EST. thanks
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I have forgotten if you use the extrom.
If you don't , could you ask michyprima for his ap to access this .
It is called "Addins"
there's a new base rom popped up in the general forum..
Scratch that I can't find it now..
lakeman said:
I have forgotten if you use the extrom.
If you don't , could you ask michyprima for his ap to access this .
It is called "Addins"
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I think that app is good but only if you have the loop problem as all my roms are uc compliant, which is the same thing just launches from the sd card not ext rom.
my 2cents: irus in your knew rom maybe you can focus on a new build and speed speed speed.
lennie said:
my 2cents: irus in your knew rom maybe you can focus on a new build and speed speed speed.
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well i like this build and i don't have the time for a full update but i will def focus on speed speed speed
build 20721 aku 1.4 is out r u planning for this
irus said:
I think that app is good but only if you have the loop problem as all my roms are uc compliant, which is the same thing just launches from the sd card not ext rom.
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I haven't used the uc app.
does it allow you to choose what you install , or does it install everything in the list?
lakeman said:
I haven't used the uc app.
does it allow you to choose what you install , or does it install everything in the list?
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it installs everything in the sdconfig.txt file but if you don't want something just delete that line of text. when i release my next version i will put a template of sdconfig.txt but this will only work for people without the loop problem.
Suggessions
Hi Irus,
What about the following:
1- Fnger touch
2- More diamnod drivers, graphics & functions like in ap5
3- check this link and sea if we can avail such functions http://www.touchxperience.com/
Cheers
wsayed said:
Hi Irus,
What about the following:
1- Fnger touch
2- More diamnod drivers, graphics & functions like in ap5
3- check this link and sea if we can avail such functions http://www.touchxperience.com/
Cheers
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sea = the ocean: "look at the ship way out there in the sea"
see = look: "did you see that?"
hope this helped

Schap's ROM with TouchXperience UI - Call to beta testers

You may know that I am working since a long time on a touch user interface, and a Touch Pro version is planned, taking advantage of G-sensor, touch-sensitive control pad and accelerated graphics.
At the moment I can't work on Touch Pro version because firstly my PC is dead, and I planned to invest in an HTC Touch Pro but unfortunately I need to get a new PC first, so Touch Pro will have to wait... But it will come sooner or later and as for the other devices, I would ask now for motivated and experienced testers to participate to a private beta.
I need only about 20 people so I will choose first people who could really help me, better is if you have WM cooking or development knowledges. I don’t want to get thousands of messages asking “please please send me the ROM” like it was in the other threads, so please don’t ask me to participate if you don’t have solid arguments. If you are interested, let me a post here with your skills, and I will contact you later by PM if you are selected.
This thread is open to suggestions.
More info about TouchXperience User Interface and video demos:
http://www.touchxperience.com/
TouchXperience is the Next Generation User Interface for Windows Mobile, finger friendly and highly customizable, it offers many interesting features: program launcher, contacts manager, home screen, appointments, messaging, task manager, profile and event manager, call log, control panel, communication manager,...
TouchMenu is probably the most powerful and customizable menu, replacing original Start Menu for an innovative touch interface. TouchMenu supports finger scrolling and gestures, for example you can switch from a menu to another by sliding your finger left/right, or display context menu by a long press on the screen. You can also scroll menus using G-sensor. Each menu has four different views (large list, small list, large grid, small grid). As the rest of the future user interface, TouchMenu has a nice Vista/WM7 look.
TouchMenu has various built-in menus :
- All Programs (Start Menu replacement)
- Active Programs (Task Manager)
- Recent programs
- Favorite programs
- Settings (Control Panel)
- Documents
- Favorite websites
- Contacts
- Messaging
- Appointments
- Tasks
- Calls (Call Log)
- Communications (Comm. Manager)
- RSS feeds
- Power Actions
- End Actions
- One Touch Settings
But you can do much more by creating your own custom menus where you can add contacts, program shortcuts, website links, system actions (for example: reset device, rotate screen, sound profile, clock, brightness backlight, WMP status,...) or links to other menus. You can also replace icon for each program/folder/contacts/menu with a custom image.
TouchHome is a fully customizable screen where you can add various widgets and graphical elements (clocks, indicators, today items, texts, images,...). By default, TouchHome displays when you turn your phone on. You can make your own graphics and layout using XML. TouchHome can be also used as screen unlocker (unlock screen by sliding finger, by double tapping, by shaking device, using navigation scroll wheel,...).
Use GPS or cell-based geo-positioning to determine current location and create profiles for each location.
Custom Events is a powerful application which execute predefined actions when custom events occur. The principle is simple, each custom event is defined by:
- A basic event (application changed, location changed, new message, new incoming call, battery charging, device cradled, headset connected, Wi-Fi network detected, internet connection detected, ,...)
- Eventually some conditions (date/time, current application, current location, specific words in message, caller identity,...)
- An action (launch application, display notification, enable flight mode, turn on Wi-Fi, change profile, send message, ,...)
There will be hundreds of events and actions, so possibilities are very large! Here are some examples:
- Enable flight mode during nights
- Connect to Wi-Fi while battery is charging
- Deactivate alarm when I turn my device face down
- Put phone in silent mode at workplace
- Remind me to buy bread when I’m near to the bakery
Supports finger gestures on touch-sensitive control pad (experimental, for HTC Touch Diamond/Touch Pro only) to execute different system actions, in this way you can have up to 8 “virtual buttons” on your device.
Supports display auto-rotation navigation using G-sensor (experimental, for HTC Touch Diamond/Touch Pro only).
TouchXperience User Interface is designed for a future usage of hardware accelerated 3D graphics for an outstanding experience!
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Congratulations and Let me join first here.
Let me be the first one here to show my interest here.
I am systems developer and also worked in QA Testing & Analysis.Had experience of using and playing around with so many roms of windows mobile devices.I am sure , there are lot of experieced people out there who are willing to join your beta testing, but I am also trying to join this beta testing of ur rom.
Let me know if you need my help.
Kind regads
vijay
Now that's what I'm talking about
Schap's here
i dont think i really qualify as the best candidate for beta testing because i am not a developer but if you need a corporate every day power user I fit in I use my device constantly with blackberry functionality as well so maybe that is valuable to you.
Also wondering what the cost of the UI will be once you release it?
mallman said:
i dont think i really qualify as the best candidate for beta testing because i am not a developer but if you need a corporate every day power user I fit in I use my device constantly with blackberry functionality as well so maybe that is valuable to you.
Also wondering what the cost of the UI will be once you release it?
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I think he is going to release it for free. But consider a donation for him. He is working on a old pc and spending his precious time so please do not be tight with donations. I am donating once this is out. Thanks schaps for the great UI that is coming soon.
sumitescp said:
I think he is going to release it for free. But consider a donation for him. He is working on a old pc and spending his precious time so please do not be tight with donations. I am donating once this is out. Thanks schaps for the great UI that is coming soon.
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hmmm considering the donation now........ OK not a problem Would like to try it though. I am all for helping to support such innovative causes
I've alot of experience testing various hardware and software platforms. Most of it comes from testing php/sql, as well as a bunch of various hardware platforms including most current gen video game hardware/OS software.
I'm fairly well versed in Windows Mobile, but don't have the experience with it that some other people here have. However, I think my experience in other areas will prove useful.
Schap man,
Been looking forward to this new Touch Experience interface for quite a while as you implemented it in alot and hopefully will change the winmo xperience.
Will your Touch Pro ROMs include TFL3D or is it removed/replaced with your TouchXperience?
How much bigger is the ROM size in comparison with other ROMs? (not that I'm really concerned with that with Touch Pro but also for Kaiser)
Any date estimate on TP's release date?
Thanks man and looking forward to it
Hi Schap,
I am not an experienced cooker, but I have been flashing my Device with many roms on this forum. I received my Touch Pro on Thursday and as you can see by my Signature I have already flashed it with DCS's ROM and installed your advanced config + registry editor
I will test as much as I can and feedback as much as I can if you want me to participate in your testing.
Cheers and keep up the good work.
fireblade63 said:
Schap man,
Been looking forward to this new Touch Experience interface for quite a while as you implemented it in alot and hopefully will change the winmo xperience.
Will your Touch Pro ROMs include TFL3D or is it removed/replaced with your TouchXperience?
How much bigger is the ROM size in comparison with other ROMs? (not that I'm really concerned with that with Touch Pro but also for Kaiser)
Any date estimate on TP's release date?
Thanks man and looking forward to it
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TouchXperience does not replace TouchFLO 3D as it does not act like a today screen replacement, but if you use TF3D mostly for access to contacts, messaging, Internet, programs and settings, you may prefer to use TouchMenu and you would not need TF3D anymore. I don't plan to exclude TouchFLO 3D from my ROMs, excepted if most of you would prefer it, and maybe I will adapt TF3D graphics with TouchXperience style.
At the moment TouchXperience requires 2MB space in ROM, but as it replace some HTC applications and internal functions I will remove them, so it shouldn't be much bigger than other ROMs and maybe smaller after removing HTC stuffs.
As I said, I need to get first a new PC and a Touch Pro to be able to work on it. For the PC I hope I should get it soon, but for the Touch Pro you know that it is expensive, so I will have to wait longer until I could afford to buy one. Maybe I could buy one end october or november, excepted if I get enough donations to invert in the phone, in that case I would buy it as soon as I have the money then Touch Pro version could be available shortly.
mallman said:
i dont think i really qualify as the best candidate for beta testing because i am not a developer but if you need a corporate every day power user I fit in I use my device constantly with blackberry functionality as well so maybe that is valuable to you.
Also wondering what the cost of the UI will be once you release it?
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The price is up to you, it costs only a donation!
I am system engineer (MCSE)
If you need, am ready to help and share cause really interested to improve the bad performances of current ship roms
bye
well i'm a system supervisor and i would realy become a beta tester. I'm not much experienced into cooking roms, but i use my touch pro every day intensive (previously i had the tytnII, Tytn, and the qtek9100) i have a 1mbit internet connection through HSDPA and use the internet as well on the device as linked with my notebook. I'm also testing a lot apps on the touch pro like various TF3d config programs, Gsensor locks and more stuff. If you think i can be a beta tester than i would appreciate that.
kind regards
Elroy
Very interesting project.
I could maybe make some tests, I'm in IT, ex-programmer (yes I don't like how it sounds too), experienced beta tester (and also write good documentation btw.), use WM much before it was WM.
Since I am Greek, I'd make sure everything works in my language.
Hi Schaps,
If you're looking for an Italian beta tester, here I am.
That's all.
byz
I am willing to help. MY main skill is with networks but I have extensive PPC experience for many years at least as far as devices. Just let me know if you'd like help. I currently own a TouchPro, Kaiser, and Hermes.
hello schaps, i would really like to help u on the beta test rom. i am a vb.net developer and i have also created some pda applications so i think i can help with that. i own a touch pro.
Prêts à aider
I've visited your site many times to check if your TouchXperience UI is released.
I'm a telematics specialist for the RNLAF, so i use my TP every day and a touch friendly app a must for people who use it on a extensive daily basis.
Cooking skills are in progress as i'm beginning to cook my first TP ROM.
So if you need a beta tester i'm more then willing to help you out.
- Remind me to buy bread when I’m near to the bakery
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I was wondering how you are going to fix that one
I am marking myself as a potential 20 here
I am a beta tester for
T-Mobile
D-Link
Nokia
and many other smaller manufacturers past and present.
PM SENT !
How are things progressing here?

[APP](UK only) Hot UK Deals for WM v1.0.1, & v2.0.0 alpha

I'm developing an app to allow users to query HUKD from their mobile (over using the mobile website as a quicker and should be less bandwidth intensive & skin to windows mobile also)
Now Using FreewarePocketPC for hosting, should be on O!Market shortly
The latest version will always be here:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-hotukdeals-for-windows-mobile.html
.Net 3.5 Compact Framework is required for all releases
http://rapidshare.com/files/274015365/NETCFv35.wm.cab
Version 1.0.0 Released: 31/08/2009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4440622&postcount=8
Version 1.0.1 Released 02/09/2009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4453966&postcount=10
Version 2.0.0 alpha Released 21/01/2010
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5419240&postcount=37
v2.0.0 is not tested, although based on v1.0.1 it works in a different way, use at your own risk
Please try it out and let me know if you have any feedback as I would like to welcome all comments and criticisms to help improve my software
Hell yeah! <3 HUKD I'll gladly be a beta tester for you.
evorgevol said:
Hell yeah! <3 HUKD I'll gladly be a beta tester for you.
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Cool thanks
I need to sort out how I am going to show the results (the request/receive should be done tonight) then it's into beta and I'll try to figure out how to make a cab then get it sent out
Flibb from hexus here, count me in
A quick update
The search page is done (I'm going to add a search field after the first release, want to get a working product out first) and I am sorting out the data at processing it currently (when you click on an item it loads a new page with more info on it then you can open in a mobile bowser or go back to the results)
I'm ALMOST there guys, I have got to sort out the xml still and embed a browser in a new window to show more details on a deal... or I will sort out my own way around it
And another teaser screenshot, I have added support for tags (The search function works great right now, does all the filtering correctly.... BUT I am dealing with the returned XML currently)
Unfortunately you can only use 2 words as anything non alphanumeric is converted to '-' or the API wont recognise it but i'm working around it so you can use as many tags as you want (Just fixed this actually)
So I have the returned data to sort then it should be go I am going to add a 3rd screen where you can get more details on an individual deal (and load in an image of the product)
That is on a 240x400 screen so an Omnia should be fine
If anyone has dealt with DataSets and how to organise it in a ListView please let me know, I'm trying to deal with it right now and it's a PITA as I haven't used it before
If you need webspace; PM me
Version 1 finished
Full zip:
http://rapidshare.com/files/274021499/HotUKDealsInstaller.zip
Download the zip file, you need to install the net 3.5 Compact framework to be able to use it
Individual parts:
.Net 3.5 Compact Framework:
http://rapidshare.com/files/274015365/NETCFv35.wm.cab
HUKD 4 WM Cab Installer:
http://rapidshare.com/files/274015512/HotUKDealsInstaller.CAB
(Installer is a bit hobbled right now, need to load from program files>HotUKDeals on the device memory, will work on this to fix)
Known issues:
Speed (will work on next fix)
Bandwidth (will work on in next fix due to large numbers of results)
Installer fixes needed, so the registry is properly added, can access from the programs menu instead of having to navigate to the folder
Add an uninstaller (atm just delete the file)
Please link to this thread instead of hotlinking if you wish to share with others please
finlay666 said:
Version 1 finished
Known issues:
Speed (will work on next fix)
Bandwidth (will work on in next fix due to large numbers of results)
Installer fixes needed, so the registry is properly added, can access from the programs menu instead of having to navigate to the folder
Add an uninstaller (atm just delete the file)
Please link to this thread instead of hotlinking if you wish to share with others please
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Just installed and everything seems to be working well for me!
If you want any help with the installer and stuff, then I can try my best to help! Just PM me
Thanks for the app!
~evorgevol
Just finished off v1.0.1, more some incremental changes than anything else. Thanks for the comments from some of the people that have used it
v1.0.1
Changes:
- Fixed installer (app shows up in programs menu as HotUKDeals (with the icon )
- Warning if you get no results instead of loading a blank page
- Slight redesign of results menu (the description at the bottom only shows when you have selected a deal
http://rapidshare.com/files/274779810/HotUKDealsInstallerv1.0.1.CAB
installed and working a treat on my topaz
Cheers
Apologies for not keeping this more up to date, some good and bad news...
Good:
I just got back from holiday
I have plenty of ideas for things to try out for improving the application
I won the category I entered for the contest it was for
http://www.hotukdeals.com/rest-api/contest
Bad:
Obviously being on hliday means no development work done since last update.
Resuming studies in the next few weeks for my degree so it will be much more of a side project as I work on my dissertation
I have had very little feedback on it To be honest I want as much critical feedback as possible.
I'll be working on my own web hosting to avoid reliance on Rapidshare also (I want figures for dowloads of each version etc and having this project on multiple forums means keeping track can be very difficult!)
Thanks for this handy little app works great for me running 6.1 21054
htc prophet
Works on HTC Touch HD, wvga, standard WWE 6.1 ROM
Really like this app, was looking for a PS3, think I may have found one for a good price
Bump to the update, I am going to have some time, I plan to add
- Option to go direct to the website via the link in the page (I have figured out what it is)
But I'd like to know if anything needs to be fixed, if there are any negative points please tell me as I will have some time next month to fix them (got sick leave for a number of weeks due to an upcoming operation)
Been trying to download from rapidshare, but will not let me do so unless I join up, as "no more free slots available"!
Any alternatives?
Apk1 said:
Been trying to download from rapidshare, but will not let me do so unless I join up, as "no more free slots available"!
Any alternatives?
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Worked fine for me on 1.0.1 and the .netCF cabs if you try it again as a free user
Now working, it appears rapidshare blocks free users when it is busy.
Thankyou.
WinMo 6.5 on HTC Touch HD.
App works great, nice and fast, love it.
Cosmetic suggestions:
On the 1st page, maybe make the menu options more finger friendly?
On the results page, maybe split the backgound a bit, like with lined results, which highlight when selected.
Also when selected maybe add a lond decription and the small image?
Badly formatted rough mock up:
...and make the whole bottom part a URL link to the deal itself, like the "Go To Deal" button.
I'm on HotUkDeals EVERY DAY. I love a bargain me.
That looks like a decent suggestion, I have a lot on (doing some demo work on the 360 ATM as well as some big side projects) so I'll try and make the changes that I can seeing as it should be a fairly minor thing to do
I'll try the first page suggestions, will need to see what I can do from the button side of things

mConvert - VGA - Attractive Mobile Unit Converter

[Intro]
After much demand for a VGA version, I finally got around to making this. I have tried to maintain the slick look of the WVGA app in this dwarfed version.
You can use mConvert to convert in the following categories:
Area
Length
Power
Temperature
Velocity
Computers
Force
Frequency
Volume
Weight
Acceleration
Cooking
Energy
Pressure
Torque
This is a powerful converter app, able to rival many of the other converters on the market. And best of all? It's FREE!! Donations are however kindly accepted (on FreewarePocketPC site).
I have tried to make the UI as attractive as possible, as this makes or breaks an app in my opinion. Hope you like it.
I decided to make the app free as nobody likes paying for this stuff, including myself. The aim of mConvert was not only to make an effective converter for mobiles, but to also showcase the potential Windows Mobile has.
For the WVGA version, visit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668456
[System Requirements]
Windows Mobile (Tested on 6.5)
Windows .NET Framework 3.5
VGA Resolution Screen
Touch Screen
Check out the pics below and download.
Enjoy!
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Very nice, thank you
b.t.w your link to wvga is wrong http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668456 @ mo goes to an o2GRS thread didn't want to edit so just to let you know
stylez said:
Very nice, thank you
b.t.w your link to wvga is wrong http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668456 @ mo goes to an o2GRS thread didn't want to edit so just to let you know
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Thanks, link problem solved
thank you for the app and the PM, will give it a try in a few and post any issues, if any back.
HTC Touch2 T3333
tried to install this program on HTC touch 2 - shows just half of the screen ( without ability to scroll) , no way to change any settings . Any fix?
Dny posibility to add new units?

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