The standard PIE on DCD's 2.10 ROM (or any stock ROM, for that matter) is horrendously unstable. The 'download' constantly stalls out when doing speed tests and other sites load formatted in ways that make everything unreadable.
Opera Mini (Beta 4v2) is the absolute opposite. 2.2Mbps+ on all speed tests, stable downloads, 110% flawless page formatting... it just can't play videos. Is there any middle ground available? I'd take a slightly less 'Opera' browser, as long as it was stable and played videos. Is there anything like this?
install HTC Streaming Media and/or Flash Video Bundle and youtube will work
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install HTC Streaming Media and/or Flash Video Bundle and youtube will work
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On Opera? I can play YouTube videos when I run PIE, but it's still so slow and choppy. Not the videos themselves, but any site I go to on PIE.
which opera you use? Because I use opera mini but cannot play you tune video.
I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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How can I make my ppc show me youtube's videos??
U could also try the program Vtap, works great for me on my mogul, and its free. I like it better than using PIE and TCPMP although they are both good solutions.
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U could also try the program Vtap, works great for me on my mogul, and its free. I like it better than using PIE and TCPMP although they are both good solutions.
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I need a player which play all my files, not only what it can find on the net...
skyfire is a new player that is said will play youtube as if you're working on a computer, but its still on beta version and its still not out yet but skyfire is sending some to testers... so its ur chance to try to get one
We are all stuck waiting for Skyfire for full browsing on a cell.
Vtap is Broken
I keep getting a Green Screen anytime I try to watch a video? Anyone have any idea whats going on??? Thanks.
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The standard PIE on DCD's 2.10 ROM (or any stock ROM, for that matter) is horrendously unstable. The 'download' constantly stalls out when doing speed tests and other sites load formatted in ways that make everything unreadable.
Opera Mini (Beta 4v2) is the absolute opposite. 2.2Mbps+ on all speed tests, stable downloads, 110% flawless page formatting... it just can't play videos. Is there any middle ground available? I'd take a slightly less 'Opera' browser, as long as it was stable and played videos. Is there anything like this?
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When will you people learn...
You can't test your speed on Opera Mini! I promise you, you are NOT getting 2.2Mpbs+ speeds on your phone consistently.
Opera Mini is not a real web browser. The way it works is when you click on a web page, Opera downloads the page to its servers first. Then, it takes a look at the page, and takes a picture of it, taking note of where all the links appear. It then sends this "image" + link information to your phone which displays in the opera mini browser. This method is so much faster than a regular browser because your phone doesn't have to download all the information and doesn't have to do any of the processing to render the page. (This also, by the way, introduces all sorts of security questions because this is being rendered on someone else's computer before it comes to you. In other words, don't use opera mini to do your banking)
when you do a speed test, you're not seeing the speed of your phone's connection. You're seeing the speed in which Opera's server is connected to the internet, and then seeing that result as a picture sent to your phone!
In fact, the opera mini experience is the same on a high-end PDA phone as it is on a simple little nokia from 5 years ago (speed of the phone is irrelevant, its just viewing images).
Case and point- browsing on an GSM nokia 6230 using EDGE (non-3G) is not noticeably slower than browsing on a Mogul with EVDO Rev A, and both reported over 2MBps in speed tests (EDGE averages around 100kbps).
Basically, this system is ideal for web browsing like the desktop. However, it can't do any pages that require client-side processing, since your phone is not doing any of the processing. For example, pages with real-time interaction, javascript games, and especially flash animation and/or video (such as youtube) would not work under this model.
There ARE browsers that are capable of this, such as NetFront and the upcoming SkyFire, but you will most likely end up with the same laggy experience as IE because you are back to using the phone's CPU to process and render the data.
Bottom Line: What you are asking for is not out there because the concepts are worlds apart (opera mini + flash video). Using TCPMP and the flash video bundle work flawlessy for me, might want to check out the latest versions of that.
Generally, I've found that there is not perfect browser for everything (yet). I use Opera mini for regular browsing of large pages, Picsel for secure pages (such as sprint.com account information), IE for mobile-access pages (such as the mobile accuweather) and for flash video using the bundle. I used to use NetFront for pages with flash and java interaction, but I actually found it too slow and clunky for regular use. The tcpmp video bundle works much better, so I removed NetFront.
Good luck, I hope this helped someone understand the situation better!
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Look... IE is the only thing you can find atm that is close to being full featured. The problem is on some of these roms it just plain does not have the memory to operate. NexVisions is one of them. Open just about any page and is 1mg of ram left. Other then IE you are forced to mix it up with other browsers until Skiyfire comes out.
So has anyone tested the Skyfire beta?
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I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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how are you getting this to work? i have tcpmp and the FlashVideoBundle.cab but youtube videos try to open in WMP, which gives an "unknown error" error
if i force it to open in tcpmp it says the rtsp protocal is not supported
using opera mobile reporting as a desktop browser youtube doesnt even open, it just crashes the browser, i cant get PIE to report itself as anything other than PIE (so it always goes to youtube mobile)
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I have it. It shows a lot of promise but it's still early (version # is .5). Video is pretty choppy even over WiFi. It's one of the things they're trying to polish before release.
Make sure you are using TCPMP version 0.72RC1, and make sure you don't have any other flash plugins installed except the flashvideobundle.
I have both installed to my device memory (not memory card).
that's it really. I can go to youtube.com in PIE, tap on a video, and a little menu pops up asking if you want to play or save the video. just tap "play" and the video starts playing within a couple of seconds, and its very smooth.
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Does anyone have a working solution for YouTube on the 6800? I've searched everywhere and tried everything implied, but I still can't get it working. I've tried all the flash video packs, TCPMP, WMP, HTC Streaming Media Player (which won't cook for some reason, I get errors.) Nothing is working. And I love youtube. And i Need it! It's how people that should never be remembered for anything are remembered for something. And I have long breaks of downtime at work.
So if someone has a working solution, would you please do a short writeup or post the files here? Thanks
I use TCPMP and Flash Video Bundle. You need to get the new flash video bundle to do this because youtube changed some stuff.
Found my information here:
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=5094
Search for youtubeplay it just came out. Works pretty nice, fastest way to play them yet.
I use skyfire browser and it works with no additional DL's, hollowood.com, any trailer on "those sites" and I can go to flash sites with no issue.
I never got any of those DL's to work on my 6800, so I just use the browser.
skyfire.com
ok so I got youtubeplay and it works good. thanks!
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I'll have to try youtubeplay. Looks promising.
The only thing is that it only plays youtube videos, while the TCPMP FlashVideoBundle also plays video from other sites as well.
i def like that tcmp/flashvideo does other sites, and lets u download the video, but the interface of youtubeplayer is nice. def better if u know what ur looking for. someone posted this comment in the youtubeplayer thread, but it would be nice if eventually, the interface was improved to look more like the shhh....iPhone, but im sure it will improve anyways
tcmp/flashvideo best out there!
dont guess you would post the skyfire installer? the web site says the beta testing sign-up is over.
Thanks.
Skyfire requires you to register and asks for your mobile number. When you try it on 2 devices it tells you to deactivate Skyfire on your other device to use it on this one. Sorry or I would post it too.
Try this one, works for me.. also works for watching TV in full screen.
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Try this one, works for me.. also works for watching TV in full screen.
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That cab does not install on my 6800. I copied it to my storage card and clicked on it - get an error message saying it did not install.
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I use skyfire browser and it works with no additional DL's, hollowood.com, any trailer on "those sites" and I can go to flash sites with no issue.
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skyfire.com
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Skyfire remains as a locked beta and is not open to public use. Your bragging ain't helping one here in the now..
Try downloading vtap, it gets videos from tons of sites, and is easy to use. Its interface is similiar to that of the Iphone, and I have been using it alot, it works well.
http://www.vtap.com/wm.html
youtubeplay is a very promising YouTube Player in development by milesmowbray located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227
How bout youporn ? Anything play those???
The new beta youtube player is very basic but fast software. One another way it to search for youtube through orb and simply play any youetube video in any player of your choice.
Hello all,
As maybe some know, Adobe's Flash player in Android has a feature. The object doesn't activate if it is not in focus (or maybe touched?). This seems to be a security or battery performance related improvement as Adobe puts it.. However, it is really annoying.. Because;
You can't listen to most of the radio stations, or playlists even, if you send them to background. I love to listen to some of my favorite music while reading the daily news.. As many other have pointed out in the following threads:
Thread ID: 854896, 672639, 543354, 489142
I am writing this question here, as this is an Android Flash player implementation issue and this behaviour is by design. There may be many ways to modify the Flash player, or modify the browser to make the Flash Player act as if it is in the foreground even if it is not..
So can anyone work on this? Or maybe we can submit some kind of CR to CyanogenMod issue list? Better yet, how can we submit this problem to Adobe's developers/designers?
Or maybe a hacker has already read this and has solved it already
Thanks a lot..
Maybe this works on other (Sense?) phones, but I know this worked on my 3.29 stock rooted Evo. In the browser you can hit menu > windows and then open a new window, and then close the new window. Now you will still be in the windows view, but are "hovering" above the window you have your Flash content in. Now you should be able to hit the home button and do other things.
I would suggest just using a real music player/radio app.....
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I would suggest just using a real music player/radio app.....
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x2... I think most, (if not all) standalone music/radio apps will run happily along in the background.
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x2... I think most, (if not all) standalone music/radio apps will run happily along in the background.
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True, but most (if not all) standalone music/radio apps won't play arbitrary flash content online.
I know somebody who likes to listen to a particular TV program, and typically networks only make these available via flash. I'm sure if he works at it he can extract the audio on a computer or find it on a torrent or something, but it would be nice if this were at least an option.
Of course, compared to a normal app I imagine it would suck down a lot more power.
I've found a way to have a Flash webpage running on the background without needing to hack Flash Player on ICS. I stumbled across an unadvertised "feature" of the Dual Screen Browser app by Curry Cat v2.1.
All you have to do is launch the Dual Screen browser, do a google search for the flash web page you want, and once the audio starts playing just hit the OS Home button and the audio keeps playing in the background. It blew my mind.
The device I got this working on is a stock ASUS Transformer TF101 w/ ICS (v4.0.3)
Dual Screen Browser has a bunch of FC and seems to be heavily reliant on the stock browser some how. If you get FC when trying to launch it try the following:
Open stock Browser, press OS Home button, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Turn internet connection off, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Dual Screen Browser appears to be better optimized for flash/html5 video playback in portrait mode. I had two flash videos playing at the same time on each screen without much of a performance hit.
When in landscape mode pick the left most screen. It plays movies better without cutting off part of it.
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I've found a way to have a Flash webpage running on the background without needing to hack Flash Player on ICS. I stumbled across an unadvertised "feature" of the Dual Screen Browser app by Curry Cat v2.1.
All you have to do is launch the Dual Screen browser, do a google search for the flash web page you want, and once the audio starts playing just hit the OS Home button and the audio keeps playing in the background. It blew my mind.
The device I got this working on is a stock ASUS Transformer TF101 w/ ICS (v4.0.3)
Dual Screen Browser has a bunch of FC and seems to be heavily reliant on the stock browser some how. If you get FC when trying to launch it try the following:
Open stock Browser, press OS Home button, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Turn internet connection off, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Dual Screen Browser appears to be better optimized for flash/html5 video playback in portrait mode. I had two flash videos playing at the same time on each screen without much of a performance hit.
When in landscape mode pick the left most screen. It plays movies better without cutting off part of it.
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Wow, I even forgot that I asked this question. But your solution seems very promising. Well, I'd still like to see HTML5 work in the background to (for the obvious reason that I want to play a youtube playlist while screen off ) Well if I'd have to install a separate app, I think there are other players that does this already.
Thanks anyways.. (Sorry for the late response)
I am using "nextvid" to play youtube videos on the backgroud, no need for hacking it does it by default( free app)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=Nextvid.mobile.player&hl=pt_PT
Is anyone currently able to watch Hulu either on the website or through the Hulu Plus app?
If so, what Rom are you using and what version of Flash?
I can get to the website and start the video but so far after it plays the first commercial the video will stop, the audio will play but the video freezes
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It will play until it gets to a commercial, it will play the commercial and ten never resume playing
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it wont even make it past the first commercial, it will play the ad but will then stop playing and get stuck on a black image...
Ive tried CM7, Flashback, Vegantab Ginger Edition (couple different versions) as well as multiple versions of Flash...
Having the same issues. 1.1bl, Vegan Ginger 7.1, Vgeezyflash.API 11.0
Having issues too.
Using the Flashback 10.0 alpha (Honeycomb 3.1) rom and can't get hulu or most flash items to load right/
If I click around and end up hitting play I'll get sound on hulu, but that's all.
I think it has something to do with later flash versions using Hardware Acceleration and the gtab not supporting it or something.
I've tried the stock browser, Dolphin for Pad, Dolphin HD and Opera Mobile/mini all with the user agents set to Desktop.
I've tried flash from these locations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9476506&postcount=26
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077914
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076612
I always get the same result.
The websites I use to test are, newgrounds, hulu and a google search for "fart soundboard".
On Hulu I only get sound, on newgrounds flash items are just a blank spot and the fart soundboard will make noise if i click on it but I can't see any of the buttons I'm pressing.
I've read other posts of people saying the have got hulu to work but they fail to mention where the got the flash apk.
Get the PlayOn Mobile app and stream it as well as many others right from your pc to anywhere your connected to wifi, been using it awhile now and until we can stream directly from the site, this is a GREAT alternative
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Get the PlayOn Mobile app and stream it as well as many others right from your pc to anywhere your connected to wifi, been using it awhile now and until we can stream directly from the site, this is a GREAT alternative
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Thanks for the tip!
Update:
Using Opera Mobile 11.1 (with the user agent set to "desktop" in its settings, from this post and the latest version of Flash Player 11 from the Android Market get's flash based websites like newgrounds.com and my flash based eTextbooks to work correctly! So that's a decent enough work-around for my issues.
Hulu.com works better than with any other browser but still won't actually play videos.
I'm planning on getting a Galaxy Player 5.0 soon (though I'm hoping to get one for Christmas), it just looks like the perfect device for all my needs, not to mention it outstrips my second gen iPod Touch in every category and beyond.
One thing I'm really looking forward to is Adobe Flash, which I know Gingerbread and this device support, but I still have a few questions for people who actually own it. I've watched a lot of reviews, but none of them have really focused on or demonstrated the capability. Here are my questions:
1) What version of Flash does this device run?
2) How well/smoothly does it run? Say I wanted to watch a video on a site like Megavideo, how well would it work?
3) I know there are alternate browsers to the default one, does Flash work with any of them?
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it!
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I'm planning on getting a Galaxy Player 5.0 soon (though I'm hoping to get one for Christmas), it just looks like the perfect device for all my needs, not to mention it outstrips my second gen iPod Touch in every category and beyond.
One thing I'm really looking forward to is Adobe Flash, which I know Gingerbread and this device support, but I still have a few questions for people who actually own it. I've watched a lot of reviews, but none of them have really focused on or demonstrated the capability. Here are my questions:
1) What version of Flash does this device run?
2) How well/smoothly does it run? Say I wanted to watch a video on a site like Megavideo, how well would it work?
3) I know there are alternate browsers to the default one, does Flash work with any of them?
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it!
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Re. 1) I currently have 11.1.111.5, from the Android Market on my SGP5. Also, Adobe AIR 3.1.0.488 (also from Market).
Re. 2) I watch streamed Flash videos from various websites. It mostly seems to work ok. The websites I use typically don't host the videos themselves, so I'm not always 100% of the actual streamer, but typically, it'd be like Tudou, etc. Some of them behave strangely within different browsers (esp. placement of the Flash frame).
Re. 3) I've used Flash with default browser, Dolphin Mini, Xscope, and Opera. Firefox doesn't support Flash yet, I think (not sure why). I think that I also tried a couple of other browsers. Xscope use to be my favorite, but several months ago, I started having problems with Flash and Xscope (window would go black when the Xscope menu was visible), so I've mostly been using Dolphin Mini and Opera with Flash lately. Both perform about the same, Flash-wise.
Jim
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Hi,
Re. 1) I currently have 11.1.111.5, from the Android Market on my SGP5. Also, Adobe AIR 3.1.0.488 (also from Market).
Re. 2) I watch streamed Flash videos from various websites. It mostly seems to work ok. The websites I use typically don't host the videos themselves, so I'm not always 100% of the actual streamer, but typically, it'd be like Tudou, etc. Some of them behave strangely within different browsers (esp. placement of the Flash frame).
Re. 3) I've used Flash with default browser, Dolphin Mini, Xscope, and Opera. Firefox doesn't support Flash yet, I think (not sure why). I think that I also tried a couple of other browsers. Xscope use to be my favorite, but several months ago, I started having problems with Flash and Xscope (window would go black when the Xscope menu was visible), so I've mostly been using Dolphin Mini and Opera with Flash lately. Both perform about the same, Flash-wise.
Jim
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Thanks a ton, that was pretty much what I was looking for!
I'm still wondering about the Flash performance though, you mentioned strange behavior in window placement, but I'm more curious about whether or not it's possible to watch a video without framerate issues, artifacts, etc.
EDIT: Also, you said that Opera and Dolphin Mini perform similarly, but how do they compare to the default browser?
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Thanks a ton, that was pretty much what I was looking for!
I'm still wondering about the Flash performance though, you mentioned strange behavior in window placement, but I'm more curious about whether or not it's possible to watch a video without framerate issues, artifacts, etc.
EDIT: Also, you said that Opera and Dolphin Mini perform similarly, but how do they compare to the default browser?
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Hi,
There was, I think, an earlier 11.x version of Flash that I had problems with "tearing", and I had to fallback to 10.x, but that was on my Gtablet. I haven't seen that problem with the 11.x on the SGP5.
Mostly when I see problems with pauses, I've concluded that they weren't with Flash itself, but because of loads on the websites themselves, at least on the ones that I use (mostly streaming Kdrama site). I can't prove that, but it's because if I get on at different times or days, it'll be fine.
I haven't used the default browser much (actually not at all), so I can't give you info on that. Sorry.
Jim
Alright, thanks for clarifying
Anyone else have anything to say about Flash performance and whether or not that same performance differs between the default and other browsers?
The flash on my Player run quite well. It's so much better than iPod
How do u get the plug in necessary to view certain pages with the chrome browser..also i cannot view videos on certain sites in addition any "featured " links in google when clicked shows errors.. sorry im a chrome noob any help is appreciated..
Edit: websites show puzzle piece and says no plug in available to display this content
Because it is in a beta version, it lacks certain features and functionality. As of right now, there is no flash support. Later, they will most likely add this feature, but if you need flash now, you will need to use a different browser. My personal favorite at the moment is Boat Browser which is free on the market.
I have no issue going to youtube and playing videos via chrome.
I have also played my own websites flash slideshow via chrome without issue.
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I have no issue going to youtube and playing videos via chrome.
I have also played my own websites flash slideshow via chrome without issue.
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this + i have played a couple flash games on chrome on my prime. of course it was slow and not meant for touch input, but it DID work
Flash does not work for me and I believe it is not supported by Chrome. Surprised anyone has gotten it to work.