I have been reading all these problems with the WM6.1 new PIE problems.
I have also been experiencing these problems. Actually due to this I have moved over to Opera mini and it is great.
I haven't heard any explaination of why PIE just plain sucks in WM6.1.
I am running DCD2.1.0 VZW
I notice that everytime PIE runs and freezed which is right away.
I go into task manager and notice that PIE is a serious memory hog.
Something weird is going on because I always see PIE consuming
4294967k of memory.
Thats like 4GB of memory. Obviously cant be correct or something majorly wrong.
I dont have any PIE hacks. All temp files etc. are local. And this has happend everytime since WM6.1.
Thought I would pass this along, see if there is anyone with a similar problem.
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Im not new to WM2005 or rom upgrading. I am running WM2003SE, which I got from this site. Its pretty stable and am very satisfied with the upgrade. I have also tried the first release of WM2005 but decided to switch back coz it was plagued with problems (back then). Im not sure if they have been resolved as i have been out of the XDAII schene for a while. Problems encountered were:
ASync always restarts my PC whenever i connect the XDA via USB.
Call and Hang-up button lights are either on, or off. This seems to be caused by the auto shut off of the XDA's backlight (when i push the power button, it goes on and eventually syncs).
Hardware buttons dont work (common problem).
Some questions:
What is RAM Disk? Could someone explain.
What is the difference between program memory, storage memory, and storage?
Is 1.60C stable enough and functional enough to use?
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Answer to all your questions can be fount on http://www.buzzdev.net
Please take some time to read the threads.
I was hoping for a more straight forward, here-it-is answer. I know of about buzzdev. Just find that there are too many threads asking the same questions there. Isnt there some sort of all in one faq page?
What is RAM Disk? Could someone explain == persistent flash based storage memory which dont get deleted when power goes bye bye
program memory can be seen like ram in your computer compared to storage ram which is kinda like your harddisk
one the programs are run in the other the programs live in
this is something i've been noticing for a while. After i get a phone call or 2 the system memory starts getting more and more used up and oxios can't bring it down to as low before the phone calls. I've seen this happen on all the roms and with dotfreds task manager the phone application is running three times. I can't close any of them. I was wondering if there was fix for this or does it have to be like this ?
I have also noticed this. Something I found that gets the memory back is to open pie and goto a site that uses lots of resources,If I goto torquereport.com and browse around a little when I shut the browser down it has reclaimed a lot of the ram that I was unable to get back. Maybe there is a better way to reclaim it but I havent found it yet. I use oxios and memmaid.
Any programs installed. I found that as nice as it is, HTC Home eats up memory over the course of a day. The Titan has a well known memory leak problem. It can be somewhat circumvented, but you have to watch what programs you use.
Search on htis, there are dozens of threads about this on various forums, here, ppcgeeks.org, etc etc.
Furthermore why is this in the upgrading forum?
I was just wondering. I've been having issues with ram getting to low on my titan and programs shutting down automatically, most annoyingly of them, photo contacts. I read that WM6 requires a lot less Ram to run and thereby free up more ram for other programs. What are the main differences between 6.0 and 6.1?
Thanks
Which DCD are you currently using? 3.3.4 is very good on RAM. You should give it a try if you haven't. It runs WM6.1 though, not 6.0.
As for differences, I'm not entirely sure but I don't think the internal GPS was supported in 6.0 but I could be very wrong there.
Are you by any chance using 'Oxios Closeapps'? I use to use this religiously until I found out it was causing my background programs to close automatically. I now use 'Oxios Hibernate' and things are back to normal.
The DCD 3.3.4 ROM has more free RAM after a fresh install than any previous version I can recall, including the old WM6.0 ROM's he had.
Oxios or MemMaid are both great programs to help clear RAM when running low.
I'm currently using CronosDroid 2.13 (2.1) and was on Modaco 3.2 (1.5) previously.
Within 10 mins of switching on my phone Taskiller widget reports only 30-35mb of free memory. No problem right? 30mb is more than enough? Wrong. Anytime free memory drops below about 50mb phone gets stupidly sluggish.
I do have 120+ apps installed, but surely you should be able to do that on a platform that has 50,000+ apps available? I know HTC Hero is 1 year old hardware, but hardly obselete.
Is it just me or does Android suck at managing memory? I'm not a dev, but surely memory management is a key part of an OS..?
Is there something I'm doing wrong? Anyone else have this problem?
It's starting to get annoying having to kill all tasks every 15 mins....
BoogWeed said:
I'm currently using CronosDroid 2.13 (2.1) and was on Modaco 3.2 (1.5) previously.
Within 10 mins of switching on my phone Taskiller widget reports only 30-35mb of free memory. No problem right? 30mb is more than enough? Wrong. Anytime free memory drops below about 50mb phone gets stupidly sluggish.
I do have 120+ apps installed, but surely you should be able to do that on a platform that has 50,000+ apps available? I know HTC Hero is 1 year old hardware, but hardly obselete.
Is it just me or does Android suck at managing memory? I'm not a dev, but surely memory management is a key part of an OS..?
Is there something I'm doing wrong? Anyone else have this problem?
It's starting to get annoying having to kill all tasks every 15 mins....
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You should make friends with dkelley. He has 160+ apps, and after hacre modified Froyd to work for loads of apps, he stopped getting lags.
Not sure what the fix was though, but I'm sure it still carries through to today...
Is Autokiller Memory Optimizer still relevent? I first learned of it in KaosFroyo v36? I think?
I realize it is not a "killer" the same way most task killers are, and it just adjust the limits of the actual systems ram limits. I am familiar with the way linux handles memory but with newer roms and newer versions of cyanogen coming has anyone noticed a difference with or without it? I will freeze it tonight and see if I notice anything.
I quit using it when I switched to Gingerbread. Don't need it. With Froyo I felt it was necessary.
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I still use it. Why? Because even with gingerbread there's an obvious difference in available memory with and without it. My memory improves on average 20mb with it vs without it (just random checking it). now I realize that can hurt or help (having something already running in the background serves its purpose for quick access. too much stuff running you used and are NOT going to access anytime soon hurts). overall I havent noticed it hurting performance/speed at all and I'd rather have the free space available for operating apps so I use it. less things running even in background should at least theorically help battery life a little. I dont think its NEEDED by any means but the way I bang app after app it works for me.
I still use it because I've used it since KaosFroyo, and so on the move to GSB I couldn't help but continue to use it. Sometimes it really does help, and sometimes it doesn't make a difference.
I've uninstalled it two days ago. Haven't noticed a difference at all. I've been using GingerTazz12. cm7/2.3 has better built in memory management?
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I've uninstalled it two days ago. Haven't noticed a difference at all. I've been using GingerTazz12. cm7/2.3 has better built in memory management?
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2.2 definitely has better mem management over 2.1, and 2.3 has even better over 2.2.
Memory Managers are a placebo to me. Why not just let your phone manage things on its own? It's not based on Windows where RAM is key in performance, it just simply knocks out the things you haven't used in a while to give it more room for the next program.
It will really effect your "multitasking" ie switching between apps, because there will be memory left over, just not for the app you just finished using
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Memory Managers are a placebo to me. Why not just let your phone manage things on its own? It's not based on Windows where RAM is key in performance, it just simply knocks out the things you haven't used in a while to give it more room for the next program.
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The thing is, some of those background apps still running could be poorly optimized and still take CPU and not just RAM. You could be using an app and be good on memory, but you could have some background app taking resources and CPU cycles and possibly slowing your phone down in that manner, as well as draining your battery a bit more than usual.
i havent used it at all and im running gtood gsb2.0
I haven't used any memory optimizer/task killer since the first time I tried xtrSENSE, probably last July. zach.xtr includes scripts for GScript to change Android's built in memory manager settings, although I've since stopped changing any ROMs defaults as far as that's concerned.
I decided to not install any mem managers, autokiller & startup auditor, when I moved to GSB from xtrROM. At this point I feel I don't need autokiller at all. Startup Auditor maybe, but the few that do startup on their own are not causing issues. To me AK has become an option, NOT a necessity!
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