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Very Important Information For Beginners
/Introduction to Android for SD Cards
Okay, firstly I made this thread because pretty much every new person to this section of the forums is completely lost and unsure what things are or what to even do. We are also sick and tired of threads saying 'how do I get stared' or 'which is the most stable' etc.
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Download your files from here:
You will be accessing these websites quite often so it might pay to bookmark them
Kernel downloads, almost always download the top one, they are updated often (needs extracting): http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
Rootfs downloads, download the top one, they aren't updated as often as the kernels above but still quite regularly (also needs extracting): http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/
Initrd downloads, rarely updated (don't extract, just rename to initrd.gz) http://files.xdandroid.com/initramfs/ People almost never need to download one of these separately.
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Basic need-to-knows:
Kernel: Your modules/zImage. Your zImage always needs be in the root (first folder) of your android folder on your SD and ALWAYS named zImage, your modules should also be in the root of your android folder named modules-LOTSofNUMBERSandLETTERS.tar.gz never rename your modules. It should always be in .tar.gz EG: modules-2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1-dirty.tar.gz
Rootfs: Must be in the root of your android folder named rootfs.img
Initrd: Needs to be in the root of your android folder named initrd.gz
Data.img: Generated on the first boot of android and placed in root of android folder. Is a virtual memory file that acts as the phones internal memory for android. Holds all your settings etc. May have to be recreated some times (just by deleting it)
Haret.exe: the file executed by your Windows ROM to kick Windows out of memory and boot android.
system.ext2: Main android file, must be in the root of your android folder. Holds all of your build.
startup.txt: File that instructs android how to start up. Needs to be in the root of your SD. (I will cover this further down)
ts-calibration: A file in the android folder that holds calibration information of the touch screen.
Various Folders: You will see/have/need other various folders created in the root of your SD and in the root of the android folder, such as conf, cache, data, media etc. You usually don't want to delete these.
Root: The root folder of any partition is the "highest" folder in the hierarchy. The root folder contains all other folders and can also contain files. For example, the root folder of the main partition on your computer is probably C:\. The root folder of your DVD or CD drive might be D:\.
Also Known As: "the root"
RIL: Radio interface layer: basically controls your radio (GSM/CDMA network)
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startup.txt
VERY IMPORTANT, your startup.txt must be customized to your device. (mine is a rhod110). You can find your model number under your battery. This file belongs in the folder with your android.
My startup.txt looks like this
Code:
set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 2292
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 rel_path=FRX07 physkeyboard=rhod100_uk acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710000"
boot
Now I believe you should be able to copy and use this as yours with a few slight modifications. Change rel_path= to wherever your android is stored on your sd, for example when I go to my sd inside the folder frx07 (the root of my android folder) all my android files are there. If your folder was called andboot it would be rel_path=andboot. (without that full stop) Now change your physkeyboard= to your model of your phone, mine is rhod110 but the rhod100_uk keymap is EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE RHOD110 so that's why I use rhod100_uk instead of rhod110 (rhod110 isn't recognised by frx07), this is important to make sure your keys are assigned properly.
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Models of rhod:
From what I know that exists. If you find one not listed, make sure you tell me so I can update the list
rhod110 uses rhod100_uk and it works as it should
These can be used for physkeyboard= in startup.txt (needs updating, some may no longet be supported because F22 hasn't commited old changes)
rhod100_de
rhod100_es
rhod100_fr
rhod100_it
rhod100_nl
rhod100_nordic
rhod100_uk
rhod210
rhod300 (tilt2)
rhod400
rhod500
Getting set up:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052 and download the FULL BUNDLE
Other builds exist such as gingerbread but this guide only covers froyo frx07.
Replace/add the Kernel from the downloaded build with the latest one (remember this is the zImage and modules-NUMBERS.tar.gz). Updating is as simple as this, do it often - there is no data loss. See links mentioned above for links. Making sure that the (if there were) old kernel files are all deleted and the new ones are called zImage and modules-NEWdifferentNUMBERS.tar.gz
Replace/add the rootfs.img with the latest one from the link above it should be named rootfs.img.
Remember that the rootfs and kernel are updated quite often and that you should check and update every few days.
Make sure your startup.txt is correct and make sure everything is where it should be in a folder on your computer, then copy the folder to the root of your sd card.
Navigate to this folder using the file explorer in your Windows ROM (YOUR PHONE) and run the Haret.exe
It will then have some writing running down a black screen before booting android (it's just preparation to booting) read it if you want
Android will start and you should leave it about 2-5 minutes before touching anything, it has things running in the background and it will be slow, still setting itself up. Navigate to settings and set up your phone. If anything goes too badly wrong you can always delete data.img and start again! Data.img is the internal memory of the phone, remember? Well, until we get android working on the real internal memory...
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Structure:
My SD card. (with android on it)
I'm running:
kernel: 20110819_183957 http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
build: Froyo FRX07http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052
rootfs: rootfs-20110816-7e04198.zip from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/
Code:
EncFiltLog.menc
kbd_info
Android
cache
download
tmp
Private
Games
Installs
DCIM
Others
Videos
Images
Sounds
media
frx07
rhodimg.nbh
My android is in frx07
inside my frx07:
Code:
data.img
ts-calibration
startup.txt
modules-2.6.27.46-01348-g9de837f.tar.gz
zImage
haret.exe
initrd.gz
system.ext2
AndroidApps
conf
media
rootfs.img
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Backup/Restore
when you have the need to backup and restore data, look for an app called Titanium Backup. I have never used it but heard it works brilliantly, even backing up your apps! There is a 'donation' version and a free version with not many differences. I suggest you go check it out!
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USB CONNECTIVITY
When your phone is in Android you can not use it like a USB, HTC's drivers will not work and you have to use certain programs until this is implemented.
Windows: Install DroidExplorer this lets you open a terminal (like command prompt) on the phone, lets you browse device adding/deleting files, among other features that are very useful. If that DroidExplorer doesn't pick up your phone (when picked up it will be called 0000000000) install PDAnet on your phone and pc. PDAnet provides the drivers needed to connect the phone. It also lets you use your phone as a modem and you can send SMSs using your computer. Do NOT run PDANET at the same time as DroidExplorer. When PDANET is connected it WILL use your phone for data connections - this is the only warning. The phone is not used for any networking when DroidExplorer is connected.
Mac: Unknown to me (can someone post?)
Linux: Never tried, it is easier than windows (can someone post a method?)
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Overclocking
Do NOT overclock WINMO.
If you want to overclock your device do so at your own risk.
it is as simple as adding "acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710000" without quotes to your startup.txt cmdline. 710000 (approx 710 mhz) can be swapped for any number but this is practically the highest stable speed achievable. I use 710000, works fine for me.
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Known problems across ALL BUILDS:
Media Player Some tracks might have playing issues. FIX: HERE
Bluetooth is experiemental
Speakerphone static : seemingly random issue
USB plugging the device into a computer, it will be recognised, but not by HTC drivers. FIX: You must use something like DroidExplorer and PDAnet to browse the device and ADB (android debug bridge). See above ^^ (USB tethering is being fixed/has been fixed)
FN LED On keyboard the caps LED works but the FN LED currently does not. FN still works fine
No deep sleep: FIX: disable GPS (or kill the running app causing phone to not sleep)
Failure booting Android: Phone fails to enter android after running haret.exe FIX: Make sure your winmo is NOT overclocked before booting android.
Booting or SD Card related problems: Make sure your card is formatted as FAT32 (reformat as Full Format if it is not working)
More information is available on the wiki, there is also information there if you want to get into development. There is a pretty good FAQ on that wiki too
Remember XDAndroid is not just for this device.
If any of this is wrong or you think something should be updated/changed, please tell me
The CDMA startup should have "board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1" instead of "...is_gsm=0"
otherwise, looks good!
AkumaX said:
The CDMA startup should have "board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1" instead of "...is_gsm=0"
otherwise, looks good!
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Indeed, there is no "is_gsm" command .
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Indeed, there is no "is_gsm" command .
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Thanks to both of you, not bad considering I don't even have a cdma phone eh?
anything I need to add? I will tidy it all up soon
Something that might catch out a beginner is if they have an older SD card and it isn't detected by more recent kernels.
Need to include this in the cmdline:
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000
the.decoy said:
Something that might catch out a beginner is if they have an older SD card and it isn't detected by more recent kernels.
Need to include this in the cmdline:
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000
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I thought this was squashed in recent kernels?
arrrghh said:
saneksem said:
add that to startup,helped me on 2 gb card
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave
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You don't need this if you're on a newer kernel!!!!
Just update your kernel folks, no need for this in the startup!
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Oh, ok. I must have missed that. I only needed it on my older SD which I haven't tried using for a month or so.
I guess the only thing I would suggest (all minor things) would be maybe to bold/underline keywords, like "kernel", "rootfs", etc.. to differentiate things that may change over time; ex: I'm running FRX05 system.ext2, 3/1/11 rootfs from F22, 3/1/11 zImage/modules (kernel) from arrgghh, etc... And, I guess you "could" be nice and show people what they could edit in the startup.txt, depending on their phone; ex: I'm Sprint, so I would do kb=rhod400, cdma=1, etc..., but for each phone.
I would probably have to do all the different startup.txt's in a different thread, unless I just provide a quick table... I will think about it however I do like the idea about bolding key words.
Most new people don't realize if they have their call/end/windows/back buttons on in winmo, they will stay on while on android and never go off. Might want to put that in your first post before telling them to run haret...
at the end where you say you can just delete the data.img and startover its probably a better idea to say to be patient and reboot the phone once or twice before ditching your data.img ! and creating it is the bulk of the first boot, the linux black screen with the scrolling words section.
you can talk about saving your data.img just incase something goes wrong.
titanium backup is a must
having an app that can save sms when you switch builds (not a big deal for everyone but important to some.)
also let new users know android isn't perfect, things randomly completely mess themselves all the time, don't get discouraged just start fresh with a format and new files when deleting the data.img doesn't work and you'll be just fine.
All I want to know now is if I have helped anyone yet and if they had any problems with any part of it or want me to clarify anything I will be quite happy with such replies ^-^
Is anyone able to provide me with some ETAs of fixes on the problems across all builds listed in the OP? Also are there any more I am not aware of? Oh and if anyone is working on them?
Much Appreciated
ryannathans said:
Is anyone able to provide me with some ETAs of fixes on the problems across all builds listed in the OP? Also are there any more I am not aware of? Oh and if anyone is working on them?
Much Appreciated
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There's never an ETA for anything getting fixed - BT seems close, but who knows the exact date it will be done? As CyanogenMod says, the only rule is don't ask for release dates / ETA. It'll be ready when it's ready.
Some problems are being looked into more than others, but I wouldn't say one in particular has been left out to rot. jb is fixing up BT, entropy is working on GPS fixes, wistilt2 on the RIL of late... Basically devs pickup things that are of an interest to them to fix. There's a lot still to fix/cleanup, so taking it all on alone is a little daunting. Gotta break it down into smaller pieces so it's at least somewhat manageable.
Thanks and a question...
First, thanks for the awesome post - quite helpful...
Second: I haven't mussed with my phone for about a year, for various reasons, the main one being that I was happy with my previous phone and the ROM I finally settled on, the secondary one being that phone died, and I now have a (blech) Sprint TouchPro2 (RHOD400), and am on my sixth (yes, sixth!) brand new TP2 - they keep giving me a new one because of problems (things, like... oh... say, not being able to answer calls... kind of a basic function in a mobile phone, nah?!) And, I've had no interest in futzing with what is already a frustrating and non-functional phone. I was hoping I could upgrade instead of getting another TP2 the last time I brought it in for probs, but they would only downgrade me to worse phones. So... here I am, wanting to put Android on my phone and see if there is any improvement. Or, at the least, be able to utilize some of the decent progz/gamez for Android. I mean, if I can't answer calls, at least I can use it as a handheld gaming system, right?!
Long story short: when I was flashing ROMs to other phones, the instructions explicitly said that you needed to unlock, etc., first. I can't find any data re: if there are steps you must take on your phone to 'prep' it, *before* following the steps in this thread. I've browsed the DB and no luck.
My apologies for being an annoying n00b!
PS: one of my friends said "Tell 'em you're a hawt babe - then they'll help for sure!" (ROFL)
And, thanks, again!
Tynkrrbell said:
Long story short: when I was flashing ROMs to other phones, the instructions explicitly said that you needed to unlock, etc., first. I can't find any data re: if there are steps you must take on your phone to 'prep' it, *before* following the steps in this thread. I've browsed the DB and no luck.
My apologies for being an annoying n00b!
And, thanks, again!
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Well the reason you can't find any info on it, is that it's not required .
These builds run entirely off of the SD (currently - I wouldn't try NAND yet, it's in its infancy) so there's no need to do any HardSPL or anything really to prep - just drop the bundle on your SD card - if it's at the root, run haret.exe and gogogo!
Oi. I get the stupidcard of the day!
That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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My gf suffices for that .
Hope you enjoy Android!
Tynkrrbell said:
That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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Not to burst any bubbles here, but if you are saying you are a "hawt babe" and give boobpr0n mumbo jumba, you are prolly not one and won't give it anyways.. so nobody will most likely believe you here..
Good luck though~
Hi i was just looking for some quick clarification if anyone is willing.
Boot into Clockwork Recovery. -DONE
Navigate to "mounts and storage". -DONE
Select "mount USB storage". -DONE
Copy /usr/src/tegratab/boot-custom-kernel.zip to the mounted filesystem. -HOW?
I tried adb push /usr/src/tegratab/boot-custom-kernel.zip /sdcard I dont believe it worked since nothing actually happened. I didnt even get my command line back. Im just waiting though, its been about 10 minutes though, I really dont think anything is happening. Actually it just finished, and now my tab is locked up. After I fix this I hope someone will be able to tell me how to properly install this. Also when I go into the android system then turn on usb storage device and try and drag and drop it says its going to take 3 hours?
I cant seem to figure out how to copy my file to "the mounted filesystem" I dont get a filesystem that I can drag and drop my zip into, I dont see or know of a command to do it through the terminal. So how can I accomplish this?
Thanks!
DKS1282 said:
Hi i was just looking for some quick clarification if anyone is willing.
Boot into Clockwork Recovery. -DONE
Navigate to "mounts and storage". -DONE
Select "mount USB storage". -DONE
Copy /usr/src/tegratab/boot-custom-kernel.zip to the mounted filesystem. -HOW?
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Need details--
Whose kernel is this? Is it for the gTab? Where was it compiled from (source)? Is it stable? Has it been tested? Why is the guy telling you to copy the zip file onto the internal SD via ClockworkMod when you can do it more easily by other means? Can I have a look at the contents of the zip file?
really? in order to install it you have to know all that? The zip file is over 1.5 gigs.. How do you propose I get it to you?
DKS1282 said:
really? in order to install it you have to know all that? The zip file is over 1.5 gigs.. How do you propose I get it to you?
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This kernel better be able to sing and dance for you if it's that big. What the hell is in there? I want to see what's in there now.
DKS1282 said:
really? in order to install it you have to know all that? The zip file is over 1.5 gigs.. How do you propose I get it to you?
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This is why I asked you for the details. A compiled kernel for the gTab, along with the most useful modules, plus the installer program, is about 3MB, max.
The complete Linux kernel source, uncompressed, is around 450MB. Compressed, it is ~100MB. A compressed 1.5GB file would therefore contain a heck of a lot more than just the kernel sources. What were you expecting to happen here? Ram a boat-load of source into the tablet and it should automatically compile and install everything for you?
Actually no... I followed a link and followed directions and I actually thought I was doing well till I saw the size of the file... Im actually going to work on recompiling the kernel again. It was a version of pershoots but I think the tutorial I was working off of is incorrect as are most of them on the net. Im learning but sadly not at the pace I would like, Im new to linux and android. Thank you all for the help so far. I'll post what ive done here in a lil bit and I was wondering if I would be able to get advice on how to install it... Ill even link the tutorial I follow. Here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916198
Now that Ive gone over it again its an issue in the zipping... For some reason my 28.7M file zips to 1.6gb WTF? Here is the command I used
From inside the file where the contents is to be zipped zip -r /usr/src/tegratab/boot-custom-kernel *
Yes evey time I zip it it comes out to 1.6 gigs. The system file is is pretty small but after its been ziped it actually takes most of the 1.6gb... Could I possible send the meta file, kernel file, and system file? Or maybe someone could tell me how to correctly do this? Ive followed the directions in that link and thought I was getting a legit output but I guess that im not even close.
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Actually I was able to figure out what has happened... There were some symlinks that didnt get removed so it grabbed everything in that link and zipped it as well... after I fixed the issue it zipped correctly and I was even able to get it to install... Sadly the prolific driver for the 2303 is still not included even though it shows on the kernel menuconfig as being included, I guess Im going to try again and make it modular and see if I can get the driver file to install that way.. Ill let you know how it goes and also upload and link it if I can get it to work in case someone else wants to grab it and build off it. Im also planning on helping out the forums a little bit...
Thank you again.
DKS1282 said:
Sadly the prolific driver for the 2303 is still not included even though it shows on the kernel menuconfig as being included...
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Attach the .config (kernel configuration file) so I can look at it.
Does running dmesg on the new kernel show the driver loading/initializing?
Are the /dev/ttyUSB* device files present? Are the permissions for those serial devices correct? I'm not sure what they ought to be, but try making them read+write for all--at least while you are testing things: chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB* as root.
Here is actually the zipped kernel file. When it compiles it does show the drivers being installed, I just cant get the device to recognize the Prolific cable. Ive tried including them, Ive tried modular, im not sure how to make it work, or if there is something im missing entirely. Thanks again.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nil9bh3spu6sp78
DKS1282 said:
Here is actually the zipped kernel file.
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The binary is no use to me--I don't have your hardware. The .config file is what I need.
When it compiles it does show the drivers being installed, I just cant get the device to recognize the Prolific cable.
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The real test is the dmesg output, not whether the driver is being compiled in.
However, I think your problem is that you've compiled the wrong driver. What you need is the driver for "Prolific PL-2301/2302 based cables" which is included by enabling:
config USB_NET_PLUSB
which depends on
config USB_USBNET and
config EXPERIMENTAL
The module will be called plusb.ko, I think.
Sorry for being really uneducated on this. But I can not find any of thoes that you listed in the kernel. Also I cant even find the config file. I know where im targeting it from command line but if I try to move it it says file not found, and if I try and go there visually the file isnt there.
Id love to be able to upload what you want to see, and Id love to be able to add in the items you just suggested. But alas. neither seems possible.
Its honestly odd to me.. Ive been reading a couple different posts on the net that say you install this driver for the Prolific 2303. But not the PL2303.... So why is it included when it doesn't do what its supposed to do? Ive tried a lot of different methods and none of them work. It sucks cause I see people using it. Maybe Its not the kernel and its the android OS? I really have 0 clue at this point and about to just give my resignation at my employment.
The .config file will be present in the kernel's main directory (/usr/src/tegratab/gtab-2632/.config) if you have already built a kernel.
It looks like there are 2 drivers for Prolific hardware in the source tree. One is for host-to-host cables with Prolific chips (which is not enabled by default, and which, I think, is what you want), and the other for a Prolific USB serial port adapter (which is already enabled by default).
To build the module for the first, do a make menuconfig, then select:
Device Drivers > Network device support > USB Network Adapters > Prolific PL-2301/2302 based cables
However, you should verify what you have before you build the module. Do a "lsusb" then check the USB device IDs against the USB ID database in /var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids on a regular Linux machine.
Hints:
0. See pershoot's hints to another user here and further along in the same thread.
1. Make sure that you have downloaded the correct pershoot kernel: froyo or gingerbread.
2. You don't need to include all the modules in your kernel zip file. Just overwrite the kernel proper (zImage), the wireless driver (bcm4329.ko) and then add only the prolific driver module. Otherwise you're just wasting space on the /system partition.
3. Sign the zip file after creating it.
Thank you so much for the attempt.
But my .config file is not located where you have directed me. I checked there before, I could send you a screen shot showing you this.
Thank you for showing me where the driver for the cables where, I would not have checked network adapters looking for USB.... Alas, this has not solved my problem. The cable is still undetected by the OS. Although almost EVERY other usb is detected.
Im really not sure why this wont work. It installs 100% fine I have 0 issues on this, but the Prolific 2303 usb to serial cable will not show up in log cat or anything.. Although when i adb shell and do lsusb I see it and it has a device ID and everything.
Thank you again for the help..
DKS1282 said:
But my .config file is not located where you have directed me.
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It is created in the kernel's top-level directory (ie. the same directory as the file REPORTING-BUGS) after you do "make menuconfig".
If you still can't find it, do,
find /some/path/ -name .config
after you've finished "make menuconfig". Replace /some/path/ with your kernel source dir (or / to search everything that is mounted).
Alas, this has not solved my problem. The cable is still undetected by the OS. Although almost EVERY other usb is detected.
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If the driver is built as a module then the kernel will recognize it only after you have loaded the module. Load the correct module first, either plusb.ko or pl2303.ko, depending on your hardware, then check for detection/initialization messages from the module by issuing a "dmesg" command immediately after the "insmod /some/path/driver.ko" command.
Im really not sure why this wont work. It installs 100% fine I have 0 issues on this, but the Prolific 2303 usb to serial cable will not show up in log cat or anything.. Although when i adb shell and do lsusb I see it and it has a device ID and everything.
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Still lacking details:
1. Did you download the correct kernel--Froyo/GB?
2. Are you sure you're running the new kernel after flashing the zip file?
3. Did you insmod the correct module?
4. What is the USB device ID shown?
5. Did you run dmesg--not logcat--after you insmod'ed the correct module? Can I see that dmesg output?
I can not find a .config file anywhere on this computer. it just does not exist.
Yes I am using a gingerbread version.
Insmod does not install anything for me. Although I installed the modules before even packaging the kernel. Ive verified this by checking in the the correct driver files once installed.
I dont remember the device Id exactly but its something similar to 067b:2303
I didnt run dmesg, honestly, this is way beyond me. I have absolutely no clue what im doing at all... I wasnt even hired for this job.. I was supposed to create an app that will use this specific cable on this specific device, although they did not give me the device able to use the cable... So now I have to figure out how to do this, and im just going to resign and tell them im not a hacker im a developer. Thank you very much for your effort but I am turning in my resignation here now at the end of the day. Thank you again and I'll give you thanks.
You had asked a while back if dev/ttyUSBx has shown, and I did get that to show last night. its dev/ttyUSB0 Ive tried to use a usb to serial api but the app couldn't open the serial port... Im guessing because android does not support that (since they dont really support anything) I personally dont even understand why these things sell... Its a giant useless phone that can not make phone calls. Im in the wrong business I need to sell useless products to consumers.
DKS1282 said:
I can not find a .config file anywhere on this computer. it just does not exist.
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You a) didn't search correctly, b) haven't built the kernel yet, or, c) done a "make mrproper" and cleaned up.
Yes I am using a gingerbread version.
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Which ROM?
I dont remember the device Id exactly but its something similar to 067b:2303
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You cannot be vague about this. Run a Terminal emulator on the gTablet (download one from Market if needed), then type in the command in bold:
Code:
$ [B]lsusb[/B]
Send me the output of lsusb.
I didnt run dmesg,...Thank you very much for your effort but I am turning in my resignation here now at the end of the day.
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Steady on, mate--we'll get you sorted: Just send me the lsusb output and I'll build a kernel for you--if the current kernel sources include the driver code.
You had asked a while back if dev/ttyUSBx has shown, and I did get that to show last night. its dev/ttyUSB0 Ive tried to use a usb to serial api but the app couldn't open the serial port...
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Does the app have permissions to read/write the device? Use the chmod command I gave in an earlier post to give permissions.
Next: once the actual hardware is connected to the Prolific cable, is data appearing on /dev/ttyUSB0? Run,
Code:
$ [B]hexdump -C /dev/ttyUSB0[/B]
to see if any data appears.
But, this depends on the device. Some devices need to be triggered, either electrically or by sending commands to the port, before they will send anything back. Other devices will spit data out as soon as power is applied to them.
Which kind is yours?
lsusb returns 067b:2303
My device needs to have data sent to it in order for it to start spitting out data. Otherwise there is nothing happening. It requires a 16bit hex "Start Command". So of course $ hexdump -C /dev/ttyUSB0 returns nothing.
I have the kernel I built here, as well as the gingerbread 2.3.4 rom i am using, and Ive also included the Gaps I needed to install into 2.3.4 to activate the USB feature. (why isnt that feature standard since its really the only difference for 2.3.3 and 2.3.4?
http://www.mediafire.com/?1phzkmvhtr0li
Thank you again.
Honestly you know what would fix all of this... Being able to install windows 7 on this tablet. I know the viewsonic view pad has a dual boot android / windows 7 how cool is that?
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lsusb returns 067b:2303
My device needs to have data sent to it in order for it to start spitting out data. Otherwise there is nothing happening. It requires a 16bit hex "Start Command". So of course $ hexdump -C /dev/ttyUSB0 returns nothing.
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That's assuming that /dev/ttyUSB0 is the correct port, which may not be the case.
Right after the tablet has booted, load both the Prolific kernel modules (or only plusb.ko, if the other is built into the kernel--you still haven't sent me your .config file), attach the Prolific cable to the tablet, then attach the actual device to the cable, then run a
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$ [B]dmesg > /mnt/sdcard/dmesg.txt[/B]
command. Attach the dmesg.txt so I can look at it.
Couldnt do it. Lost the job. Thanks anyway.
WARNING: This script can be dangerous if you do not know what you're doing!!! I am not responsible for any of your files or hard drives that are deleted if the script is used the wrong way.
The following Bash script (built for Ubuntu) is a simple script that I wrote that does the following:
1. Lets you chose any non-SD ROM.
2. Lets you chose the drive to partition. (WARNING: This ONLY ignores /dev/sda as it assumes that it's your main hard drive. If you have more than one hard drive, do NOT use this unless you know what you're doing!!!)
3. Automatically partitions a Boot partition, a system partition (large enough to hold some BIG ROMs...), a data partition and the rest of your SD card (whatever size it may be) is partitioned as a standard FAT32 space.
4. It modifies both the ramdisk and the vold to boot from the SD and to see that 4th partition as the SD card.
5. If the ROM doesn't have gapps built in and uses the install script to copy them from your last ROM (like CM and MIUI do), it will download and install the gapps.
6. It creates all the required symlinks.
I've only tested it with my 8GB microSD and with MIUI. The permissions are not set up correctly for now due to a bug of sorts... but the ROM that I tested boots and works fine. (Set it all to 777 for now.)
This is only the first version. I just wrote it today. If you find bugs or have a better idea on how to do certain things (like ONLY display USB drives and SD cards) PLEASE let me know here.
If nothing in this thread makes sense, it's because I'm tired...
Update: Adding a bit more info.
Its a really good idea, but not many people can try it unless it's ported to Windows or Mac.
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Its a really good idea, but not many people can try it unless it's ported to Windows or Mac.
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I know most people use Windows but Windows isn't very well equipped to do the stuff that this script does. I could always try to make an actual program (make it in c or something) but that would require a complete rewrite. I mostly wrote this for myself (to make my life easier while I'm porting a ROM to the Nook) but figured someone else might be able to use it. (Mostly the people who make the SD img's for everyone else, not the general public.)
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I know most people use Windows but Windows isn't very well equipped to do the stuff that this script does. I could always try to make an actual program (make it in c or something) but that would require a complete rewrite. I mostly wrote this for myself (to make my life easier while I'm porting a ROM to the Nook) but figured someone else might be able to use it. (Mostly the people who make the SD img's for everyone else, not the general public.)
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Well yeah, it is pretty hard. Anyways, your script works for me. Its really nice.
You can run bash in Windows using Cygwin
What's the benefit from using this script on the pc and not using verygreens installer on the nook?
joej said:
You can run bash in Windows using Cygwin
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Does Cygwin include parted, mkfs.ext4 and mkfs.msdos?
TDO said:
What's the benefit from using this script on the pc and not using verygreens installer on the nook?
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What installer? I didn't realize he had an installer that would let you install any "non-SD compatible" ROM into an SD card and make it SD-compatible. >.<
Just look at the thread directly below this one ... ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
I am using it in this setup: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
as alternate boot option.
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Just look at the thread directly below this one ... ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
I am using it in this setup: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
as alternate boot option.
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Reading that it looks like the differences are:
Mine:
Can do all that in the PC without having to touch the nook.
It's all automated. (Like downloading the gapps.)
You run the script then just pop the SD card into the Nook and go.
Meant more for devs who are testing new builds left and right or who are building an image for others to use.
His:
Doesn't require Linux nor any Linux experience (to choose the correct drive from the drive list that the script gives you.)
Meant for the average usage who wants to be able to easily update their ROMs and install new kernels without "wiping" the SD card's data partition.
ivanmmj said:
Reading that it looks like the differences are:
Mine:
Can do all that in the PC without having to touch the nook.
It's all automated. (Like downloading the gapps.)
You run the script then just pop the SD card into the Nook and go.
Meant more for devs who are testing new builds left and right or who are building an image for others to use. <snip...>
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I like this... Thanks
I am using verygreen's installer on my Nook right now, but I am going to start playing with this script
P.S. Linux rocks, everyone should have it...for those who don't want to let go of Windows, you should at least have Linux installed as a virtual machine on your box using VirtualBox.
So I was playing with this for a few moments on my Mac at work today. Am I copying the ROM archive, say MIUI_us_encore_1.8.5_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed_andmer.zip or cm_encore_full-163.zip, into the same location as the Install2SD script?
Or am I to uncompress these roms into their respective folders and copy that folder into the same location as the Install2SD script?
I have yet to get another uSD to play with, so I have obviously not gotten to far with this just yet. I will be back to my Ubuntu machine after I get home from work with a new uSD to play with.
cdaters said:
So I was playing with this for a few moments on my Mac at work today. Am I copying the ROM archive, say MIUI_us_encore_1.8.5_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed_andmer.zip or cm_encore_full-163.zip, into the same location as the Install2SD script?
Or am I to uncompress these roms into their respective folders and copy that folder into the same location as the Install2SD script?
I have yet to get another uSD to play with, so I have obviously not gotten to far with this just yet. I will be back to my Ubuntu machine after I get home from work with a new uSD to play with.
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I haven't tested to see if this works on a mac. That said, just run the script and it will tell you where to put the files (in linux (in nautilus to be exact...)) If not, when you run it the first time, it will create the necessary folder and you can put the files there.
I've got the Telstra RHOD110 and I've tried to install every Android build since about the first stable Froyo release. Every single one of them hangs during the Linux boot sequence.
It seems to be memory related, but past that I've got no clue - I'm an IT professional, but I'm in operations, not development so I'm a little out of my depth with this stuff.
I have NOT done HardSPL yet, but I was under the impression this wasn't necessary for the SD card method (which I wanted to test out before potentially bricking a ~$1000 phone). In theory it's just the standard Telstra WinMo 6.5 ROM...
It's getting a bit frustrating after years of trying this and seeing everyone else talking about how easy it is. I'm using F22's rootfs and TotalCommander isn't showing up any *.csv files in the \windows directory, so I can't even try the GBX0C (2.3.7) test build. Anyone know why my phone seems to be different?
Hi Nukkels lets focus on getting GBX0C running since
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I have NOT done HardSPL yet,
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First things first: Format the MicroSD you plan to use using the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Just use google to find it. I use version 2.1.8. Perform a FULL format, FAT32.
Now download the package from here: http://files.xdandroid.com/GBX0C_Full_Bundle_2012.04.24.zip and extract all of the files to the root of your SD card
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I've got the Telstra RHOD110
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This device is identical to the RHOD100_UK so pull the startup.txt out of the STARTUPS\RHOD\RHOD100\ and place it on the root of your storage card.
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I'm using F22's rootfs
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I think I understand why you are trying to use that rootfs since it has some stuff tailor made for Rhod110/Telstra but I don't think it is necessary. Just leave the existing rootfs.img from the GBX0C package, it should work for you.
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TotalCommander isn't showing up any *.csv files in the \windows directory
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I haven't used TotalCommander for a while, but it seems to me that there is an option like "Hide Files in ROM" or "Show Hidden Files" or something like that which is probably preventing you from seeing the .csv's in /Windows/. So find that option and find those files and copy them to the root of your storage card.
If you can't find them I think that GBX0C should still boot as I have booted without any .csv's, there was just no sound in the build. But at least you can see that it is working. In case you absolutely cannot find them, here are my .csv's from rhod100uk: View attachment RHOD100_CSV.zip, unzip to your storage card, which hopefully will get you going.
Okay, now all you need is a touch screen calibration file. If you do not have one here is mine:View attachment ts-calibration.zip
Unzip it to the storage card.
Now you have everything in place on the card, please at this point do not try to edit the startup.txt or anything in /conf/. Lets just get this baby working.
Before you run anything I would set WM to airplane mode, set your backlight control to any level but auto (ie low), and make sure that you are not overclocking your processor in WM.
Now run HaRET.exe from the root of the storage card and cross your fingers mate!
Be patient, first boot can take ~10 minutes sometimes.
EDIT: Also there is a fairly good chance that your thread will get moved to the Android section... if it does and you aren't able to post in it anymore you can PM me.
I just wrote up a huge post and lost it all :crying:
Basically I followed your sintructions step by step and it worked!
I'd never done a FULL format before - that takes hours! I'm guessing this might have been the main issue.
I'll play around over the next few days with F22s rootfs and rhod110 startup parameter, Airplane mode turned on, etc to see if any of that had an impact. I never thought to set backlight to manual or use Airplane mode.
Hopefully I can help find the crucial step I missed, so it can be included in the installation instructions (or at the very least someone might stumble on this thread).
Anyway thanks a tonne for your help, it got me up and running!:good:
Thread moved to the appropriate section.
I genuinely hope you didn't pay ~$1000 for this phone... wow.
Caldair said:
Hi Nukkels lets focus on getting GBX0C running since
First things first: Format the MicroSD you plan to use using the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Just use google to find it. I use version 2.1.8. Perform a FULL format, FAT32.
Now download the package from here: http://files.xdandroid.com/GBX0C_Full_Bundle_2012.04.24.zip and extract all of the files to the root of your SD card
This device is identical to the RHOD100_UK so pull the startup.txt out of the STARTUPS\RHOD\RHOD100\ and place it on the root of your storage card.
I think I understand why you are trying to use that rootfs since it has some stuff tailor made for Rhod110/Telstra but I don't think it is necessary. Just leave the existing rootfs.img from the GBX0C package, it should work for you.
I haven't used TotalCommander for a while, but it seems to me that there is an option like "Hide Files in ROM" or "Show Hidden Files" or something like that which is probably preventing you from seeing the .csv's in /Windows/. So find that option and find those files and copy them to the root of your storage card.
If you can't find them I think that GBX0C should still boot as I have booted without any .csv's, there was just no sound in the build. But at least you can see that it is working. In case you absolutely cannot find them, here are my .csv's from rhod100uk: View attachment 1184798, unzip to your storage card, which hopefully will get you going.
Okay, now all you need is a touch screen calibration file. If you do not have one here is mine:View attachment 1184808
Unzip it to the storage card.
Now you have everything in place on the card, please at this point do not try to edit the startup.txt or anything in /conf/. Lets just get this baby working.
Before you run anything I would set WM to airplane mode, set your backlight control to any level but auto (ie low), and make sure that you are not overclocking your processor in WM.
Now run HaRET.exe from the root of the storage card and cross your fingers mate!
Be patient, first boot can take ~10 minutes sometimes.
EDIT: Also there is a fairly good chance that your thread will get moved to the Android section... if it does and you aren't able to post in it anymore you can PM me.
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I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
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I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
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So... what's broken with it? Where does it stop?
Edit - basically, you've gotta give us more to go on. We can't help you with "wouldn't work" - it's simply not enough info. Provide as much as you can - what did you try, what happens when it boots, did anything semi-work, etc etc. Details!
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I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
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Did you bite your tounge just right while dancing backwards to the wizard of OZ soundtrack? That always does it for me when it 'wouldnt work'.
My experience was that the full format using the HP tool is a crucial step. I did a full format using other tools but I had no joy until I did it with the HP tool.
Hi! So I'm wondering if anyone know if there is\have been any development for
the Tizzbird Stick N1 (M\G) ?
We have this Android-stick in stock at my store, but I'm not sure if I'm going to get it or not yet. Depends the development, as I'd really like to see the capabilities for it. I believe it's a lowbrand tho. so I might be out of luck.
Anyone know anything?
I searched the forums, and did a google search. Didnt find much.
regards,
Dag M.
Hi there!
I own one of those, and there are a handful of (german-speaking) people activly posting in this forum http://forum.tizzbird-tv.de/ about the Tizzbird N1. - The problem with that forum is that they heavily censor it - as soon as anyone posts info on how to "get in", or if someone asks uncomfortable questions - those posts gets deleted.
They sell it really cheap for 30€ (not all the time, but twice for one day @ redcoon) and although the Wifi-Chip (or the drivers for it) are really crappy, the media player part is really nice.
update: I've did a little research, and here is a little list of relevant links about the tizzbird n1:
==== Marketing Product Pages ====
http://valueplus.co.kr/english/product/product_player_n1.html
http://www.tizzbird.com/eng/index.php?mm_code=719&sm_code=755
http://tizzbird-tv.de/tizzbird/tizzbird-n1.html
==== Official Firmware ====
http://www.tizzbird.com/eng/index.php?mm_code=726&sm_code=727&board_search_head_word=stick+n1
http://download.tizzbird-tv.de/TizzBird_N1G_update_GMS_V3_20_13072719.tzbird
==== German Support Forum (posting info about root-access prohibited) ====
http://forum.tizzbird-tv.de/viewforum.php?f=11
==== GPL-Code for Tizzbird N10, N20 & N30 - but not for N1? ====
http://www.tizzbird.com/eng/index.php?mm_code=752&sm_code=754
==== Kernel Sources ? ====
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/03...k-n1-android-ics-hdmiusb-dongle-media-player/
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07...hips-tcc8925-mini-pcs-cx-01-z900-tizzbird-n1/
https://github.com/cnxsoft/telechips-linux
Yeah, the pretend to be "community friendly and supportive" but once you actually start digging in, they get quite agressive and boot you out.
Anyways, I got a N1 a couple of days myself now (snagged it for 30 bucks at another RedCoon sale ) and I am surprised.
Got it pretty much only to tinker around with it and this thing suits more perfectly for that than I imagined.
Esp. that fact they used a simple SD card as "internal flash storage" - my guess is because a simple SD is cheaper than an actual eMMC flash chip, but it's so cool on so many levels for us.
I already found out how to replace the 4GB SD with a bigger one (have a 16GB in mine ATM).
I'll post some more details about it here later, got a few things I want to test and/or prepare first (thinking of some "easy to use cloning script"), but long story short:
You need to copy the bootloader to the very end (last few blocks) of the SD you want to use.
Once the BL is at the proper place it already boots from the new SD again, to be sure everything is as it's supposed to be one should apply an update via USB (I'm not 100% sure about a possible pointer to the BL that needs to be corrected, which the update does).
After that the partition information has to be edited to make the userdata partition larger and you're done.
thanks for the info HellcatDroid!
It would be great if you could elaborate on how to put the bootloader at the end of the sd-card.
Also I would love to get info how to get root into the stock firmware, that crippled down root-firmware that they allow to exist in the official tizzbird forum doesn't really satisfy my needs
I did it via a hex editor, but it should be doable with a few "dd" commands as well - that's one of the things I still want to try, find the propper dd params to copy the BL over.
If you dumped the original SD into a file using dd, at the very end of the image file you will find the bootloader and the very last block of the SD is a "header" telling the bootrom of the N1 a few things about it, so it can properly locate and load it.
So what you got to do is to copy those last ~230k from the image to the end of the new SD card.
As said, I'll try to write a small shell script that does it.
The rooting is even more easy (Stonecold would kill me if he'd read this, lol):
For when running on Linux (no can do on Windows, as Windows doesn't know the ext4 FS):
Since you got the SD in your PC anyways already, just mount partition 2 (e.g. if the SD is sdc on your PC, mount /dev/sdc2).
That is the partition where the Android system is sitting on.
Then just copy over the files needed for root to where they need to go, chown/chmod them properly, unmount and done
I used the "update-supersu.zip" I had for my Nexus7 to grab the required files.
But I'm planning to make a simple rooting script as well.
So if all goes as planned it'll come down to
- insert original SD
- run script 1
- insert new SD
- run script 2
- to root run script 3
brilliant! I would love to see those scripts
way easier than start tinkering with that stuff myself
One thing I wonder about - over at the official forum you said that a simple dd copy didn't work - is that if the target sd-card is bigger or also for an sd-card of equals size? because with equal size simple dd copy of the sd-card should still work, even if some things need so be exactly at the end.
Yup, just a dd didn't work because the new SD card was larger and the bootloader ended up being somewhere in the middle of the card instead of at the end.
While your thought of "dd to equal size cards" is totally correct, it might still fail due to the fact every card is not 100% exact same size counting down to last byte.
There ususally is a tiny size difference (a few bytes to kbytes) between cards, even if they are supposed to be same, so the bootloader might end up truncated or not exactely at the end.
If, however, the size of the cards is 100% the same, down to the last byte, then yes, a simple dd clone would work.
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... There ususally is a tiny size difference (a few bytes to kbytes) between cards, even if they are supposed to be same, so the bootloader might end up truncated or not exactely at the end. ...
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Oh! Didn't know that. I thought same marketing size means not the same size they write on the box, but at least the same size between those that are marketed with the same GB numbers on their stickers.
OK, here we go, I slapped together a few scripts for prepping a new (and larger) SD card to work in the N1 and while having the SD in the PC to aplly some root.
* hints at attachment of this post
The scripts might still have problems and not work on any Linux out there, but it's a start.
If there's more people interested and joining in on this I might continue but for now I got what I wanted - more storage and root.
Hi
I think I destroyed my MiniSC cand! The N1 is dead. I tried to insert the card in a linux and gparted did not see anything. What can I do?
thank you for your help
somade said:
Hi
I think I destroyed my MiniSC cand! The N1 is dead. I tried to insert the card in a linux and gparted did not see anything. What can I do?
thank you for your help
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Could you post how you got there? what did you do to the sd-card that destroyed it?
Hi.
If you got a dump from a working state of the SD you can just dd it back onto the card.
If you don't, it can still be recovered but might need bit more work.
Two options:
find someone who gives you a dump of their card and use the write-card script from my above post to write it to your SD.
Problem with this: a working dump contains copyrighted code, like the bootloader, it technically it's "not OK" to share it
we come up with another script that only contains an "empty" image (i.e. only partitioning information) and that takes the bootloader and recovery from the official update and gets the card into a state that it boots into recovery and lets you install a working system using the official update from USB (option in the recovery menu)
Option 2 would be nicer, IMO.
I'll try to make up said script
Thank you for your immediate answer!.
Actually I dont know what has happened, maybe the sharp instrument I used to remove the plastic cover scratch it...But now when I put it in a card reader the led of the reader switch off and the card is heated!!!. And also when I put it in the N1 the blue led turns off!.
So I bought a new empty micro Sd .
Waiting for your script to partition the new card and then boot in recovery mode and install a firmware....
Because I am not expert to linux please give me a lot of details how to do this.
Thanks again!
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we come up with another script that only contains an "empty" image (i.e. only partitioning information) and that takes the bootloader and recovery from the official update and gets the card into a state that it boots into recovery and lets you install a working system using the official update from USB (option in the recovery menu
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Do you think the bootloader is even part of the offical updates? wouldn't it be "best practice" to leave the bootloader partition alone as long as possible (and normally firmware updates don't need to change the bootloader)
update: something else I've just found, those might be kernel sources for our Tizzbird N1:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07...hips-tcc8925-mini-pcs-cx-01-z900-tizzbird-n1/
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https://github.com/cnxsoft/telechips-linux
Yep, the bootloader is in the update - at least in the 3.20 one.
And yes, usually the bootloader shouldn't be touched because that's usually the one thing that can "perma-brick" Android devices.
However, sometimes the manufacturer updates it (fixing bugs, adding functionality) - on my Nexus7 they updated the bootloader on pretty much every update and also Samsung updates their bootloaders every now and then (and every single update flashes the current one).
Last, not least, on the N1 the bootloader isn't on a partition but at unpartitioned space at the very last blocks of the SD (=> reason for a simple dd to a larger card not booting).
Ohyay at the possible kernel sources!
It'd be so cool if that's really sources able to build a kernel for the N1 with - I think we might be able to even get custom recovery (CWM and the likes) on the N1 if those sources work
OK, while trying to recreate a working SD card w/o using a dump of a working one I found out a few more things - some of them still need figuring out if we wanna do it properly.
There seem to be TWO bootloaders!
A stage1 bootloader of ~1kB size located at the third and second last block of the SD. If it's missing the N1 can't boot and it looks like ARM code (haven't tried to disassamble it yet), I assume the bootrom loads and executes that piece of code which in turn parses the header (see below) and load/starts the stage2 bootloader (the one also found in the FW update).
The very last block of the SD is a "header block" with some information beeing parsed either by the bootrom or (more likely) the stage1 bootloader.
The headerblock contains (among numerous other unkown data) the size of the ("stage2") bootloader (the one that then actually loads and boots the Linux kernel of the Android OS, this is also the one contained in the FW update) and the usable size of the SD card! (everything works fine though if the SD size is wrong and a proper FW update updates the header during writing of the bootloader and also sets the correct size).
Also, the headerblock has a checksum of which I have no clue on how it is generated.
All that is just educated guesses and might be totally off, but for now it looks like it's not too far off.
So, for now we can assume the following boot sequence:
Boot-ROM
-> loads stage1 bootloader from fixed position "SDsize - 3 blocks" (1 block = 512bytes)
stage1 bootloader at fixed position on SD
-> checks checksum of headerblock (?), gets size of stage2 bootloader from headerblock, locates stage2 bootloader based on it's size and loads/executes it
stage2 bootloader on variable position on SD
-> base initialisation of hardware
-> checks for recovery trigger (the red button on the remote control) and boots kernel from partition 6 if trigger present
-> boots kernel from partition 1 if recovery was not triggered
-> enters fastboot mode when booting the kernel fails
Kernel
-> loads base drivers and boots up the system
you're brilliant Hellcat!
And did you also find both bootloader stages inside the firmware updates?
Another question that came to my mind while reading your post (fastboot..)
Is there a way to use the Tizzbird as USB-slave? So to make use of adb and fastboot and such stuff? Okey adb could also be used via network I guess..
somade said:
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I think I destroyed my MiniSC cand! The N1 is dead. I tried to insert the card in a linux and gparted did not see anything. What can I do?
thank you for your help
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Somade, do you have a linux running on your pc? If no, download and get a knoppix running. and then contact me via pm. I have the original n1 image so no problem to recover the n1.
sebastian.heyn said:
Somade, do you have a linux running on your pc? If no, download and get a knoppix running. and then contact me via pm. I have the original n1 image so no problem to recover the n1.
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Welcome to our rouge and non-censored Tizzbird N1 forum Sebastian!
I wonder if you found us here, if the German Tizzbird support also already knows about us
update: I just remembered, I've sent you the link as PM over in the official forums, thats how you landed here.
Sharing your sd-card image might be a copyright violation, and if you're profile name is strongly linked to you're real identity you should definitly be cautious with such things on public forums...
kaefert said:
And did you also find both bootloader stages inside the firmware updates?
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Nope, unfortunately the stage1 bootloader is not in the update :-/
kaefert said:
Is there a way to use the Tizzbird as USB-slave? So to make use of adb and fastboot and such stuff? Okey adb could also be used via network I guess..
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Yeah, it works, even officially XD
Go to the TizzBird settings -> "System Settings" -> "Advanced Settings"
It has an option "OTG Mode" there, set it to "Debug".
If you have your N1 connected to your PC via the micro-USB port (and hence your PC powering the N1!) you can use ADB and fastboot just as usual
I have not yet tried if that option is persistant, i.e. it survives a power loss.
When booting the kernel fails it should fall back to fastboot mode, so flashing a new kernel w/o pulling the SD should be possible - need to test this a bit more, though.
What works is, if you're rooted and and you fire the command "reboot bootloader" from a root shell, that gets you into fastboot mode no matter what (given you applied above mentioned setting first).
But needing a running system to get into fastboot mode kinda defeats the purpose of it - this aint Ouya which is a total fail when it comes to fastboot XD
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kaefert said:
I wonder if you found us here, if the German Tizzbird support also already knows about us
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Eventually they will, I'd say.
And I'd love to see their faces when they do XD