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I tried hard to keep up with wm6, tried hard , all possible tweaks.So finally the other day, I thought of going back to WM5 and really it is much much stable, no soft resets, no hangups.Hard to get used to the wm5 interface as compared to the glossy wm6, but performance is what I desire, and now my apps open in seconds, memory leaks are minimal, audio in BT also goes well.
I really wonder, why WM is not fully compatible with Athena.All other devices it works like a charm, why not in Athena.
I think wm6 is quicker and more stable than wm5. I reset more often in the past.
Which wm6 ROM were you running? What applications were you using? It may be one or two applications giving you the problem.
Not much apps, I like to stick with the given apps.Use Windows Live, builtin Opera, sometimes may b NetFront, I do not play games, Skype, I use.That's it.
If u compare the speed of execution of these programms with other devices running wm6 such as Universal,Hermes, Kaiser, Blue Angel, and if we have the fastest processor 624 Mhz, it shd surpass the programe execution time.
WM6 I hv observed that, initially, it works well, but as the use goes on , it tends to slow down, and even it takes a lot of time to make a phone call, after I press "Talk".
I get 150 calls a day on an average fews Texts, few emails, 24 hrs connected to GPRS or Wi Fi whichever is available.
It is a suprise that Blue Angel reacts faster than athena to similar apps, and execution is very good and fast in devices like Hermes,Kaiser, Universal....all Running WM6, either official or cooked ones.
I really fail to understand, why such a thing with Athena.
Where do you install applications?
What does the sktools performance benchmark tells you about your card and MD.
How did you format your drives?
Do you regularly clear up the cache in opera?
How large is your contact database?
Sorry this seems like a so many questions, but there must be a cause of your problem which is not related to wm6. I say that because I've far far more applications than you, all running okay. I do avoid certain applications. Examples include the latest version of ilauncher.
No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
hdubli said:
No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
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Then I guess it must be a question of expectation.
I've just looked up. BA is using WM2003, isn't it? Well, that explains why it is so fast. I have a very old WM2003 device that feels like a speed demon too. That brings us back to the old debate of whether or not microsoft made the right move by going int persistent memory, which if I ask me now, I'd still prefer the old approach.
Your Universal has been soldered with additional memory, has'nt it? Do you think this is the reason why it is so fast?
If you've used so many units of Athena and found speed problem with every one of them, when nothing has been loaded yet, it probably means you're expecting WM2003 speed on a WM5/WM6 machine. I'm doubtful that going back to WM5 will solve your problem, because from my experience, WM6 does seem faster.
Not sure where this leaves you and not sure how else to help though.
Hi,
I know that and understand your motive and respect that.If u check carefully, BA can b updated to wm6 aku 7.7
Also I hv uni with 128 ram, but 64 also runs quite well.
Can u imagine I am replying to this thread from Opera Running WM 5
Crispy and fast enough..and I feel the differrence.
Anyway I will try oncemore and report back
I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
Midget_1990 said:
I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
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In your expert opinion, why is this so? What is special about BA that makes it fly? Does the faster speed also apply to internet surfing too?
3rd day with WM5
-Only one soft reset
-Memory lowers to 70 Mb from 81 MB,use SK tools and rever it again.
-pmsn works great and fster.Skype is also more responsive.
-I think we all here shd give it a try and also research why this is so.Really WM5 wins as far as Athena is concerned.
Guru Try Dopod
hi GURU try dopod wm6
or try aptouch dual Virgin
Hey guys i think this should be an important challenge to overcome maybe find out where all the ram is going and get it back without reseting our precious moguls. My experience its something that Task manager doesn't show up because when i end task on my DCD 3 1 2 ROM i dont get all of my memory back like right after reset. Also this causes inconvinient problem of starting GPS after few days of RAM going down to 8mb and not having enough to lunch TOMTOM.
Oxios doesn't not regain full mem only one third of it.
Can we some how make a better task manager or maybe purge RAM?
Writing a driver to consider our FLASH cards as constant RAM?
I would gladly sacrifice remove ability of my MicroSD for extra 4 gigs of ram and would let my memory leak on a period of roughly 4 years of constant usage.
Please lets get organized and stop hoping the next ROM upgrade will solve this issue.
This is one of the biggest downfalls of the mogul
I would suggest looking into how RAM works before making this thread.
First off, most of our ram appears to be lost due to memory leaks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak
And since, at least in my experience, most of the memory leak comes from Windows 6 (and so much worse in 6.1), you can't exactly end the windows task unless you...
restart the Mogul.
So no, an application, or task manager, wont do you any good. Not until they fix windows 6.1 up to not be lord of memory leaks. That is why new roms are often so desired, because only a rom release with some decent version of 6.1 with hopefully some patched memory leak holes could help our problem.
Second, you can't use a flash drive as ram, at least its not reasonable. You think the Mogul slows down now? Wow, just wait to you see it moving at the blistering pace of a microSD card.
Ram is so small, and so expensive, largely due to its speed. Thats why you can buy a 500GB HD for about the cost of 4GB of RAM on your computer.
Also, running from the MicroSD would be similar to the page file on your home computer. It runs from, in most cases, your C drive, its a fairly large file, getting even larger when you run multiple tasks on a low RAM system.
It is slow as a dog, and is one of the worst causes of system slowdowns. I also believe that MicroSD's have a limited number of read/writes. While not an issue so much for everyday use (taking pictures, running an app from time to time), if it were used as a swap file, it would probably wear out that SD card pretty quick.
So no, short of an amazing, simple amazing, piece of software engineering on Microsoft's part on a new Windows Mobile, someone developing some sweet, easy to install ram upgrade, or the new replacement for the Mogul coming out with more ram than we know what to do with.
You will be restarting your Mogul.
It should be possible to wright a Driver to USE RAM for swap file and some of main drivers but MicroSD card to be used to run all the extra features and programs. Also why our team of coders cant plug the memory leaks or find out the runing programs not seen by Task manager and have option to close them?
PS
Thanks for confirming my worst dream about the limits of our mogul. Also I notice that PPC on palm trios seems not to have these memory leaks.
This is maybe possible if we can build a tool that can reboot the shell without rebooting the actual OS. It can be combined with the command to free the memory when the OS is unloaded. This is my theory, i think that we can recover memory like this
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I would suggest looking into how RAM works before making this thread.
First off, most of our ram appears to be lost due to memory leaks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak
And since, at least in my experience, most of the memory leak comes from Windows 6 (and so much worse in 6.1), you can't exactly end the windows task unless you...
restart the Mogul.
So no, an application, or task manager, wont do you any good. Not until they fix windows 6.1 up to not be lord of memory leaks. That is why new roms are often so desired, because only a rom release with some decent version of 6.1 with hopefully some patched memory leak holes could help our problem.
Second, you can't use a flash drive as ram, at least its not reasonable. You think the Mogul slows down now? Wow, just wait to you see it moving at the blistering pace of a microSD card.
Ram is so small, and so expensive, largely due to its speed. Thats why you can buy a 500GB HD for about the cost of 4GB of RAM on your computer.
Also, running from the MicroSD would be similar to the page file on your home computer. It runs from, in most cases, your C drive, its a fairly large file, getting even larger when you run multiple tasks on a low RAM system.
It is slow as a dog, and is one of the worst causes of system slowdowns. I also believe that MicroSD's have a limited number of read/writes. While not an issue so much for everyday use (taking pictures, running an app from time to time), if it were used as a swap file, it would probably wear out that SD card pretty quick.
So no, short of an amazing, simple amazing, piece of software engineering on Microsoft's part on a new Windows Mobile, someone developing some sweet, easy to install ram upgrade, or the new replacement for the Mogul coming out with more ram than we know what to do with.
You will be restarting your Mogul.
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while every single statement you say is true, your only wrong about how long ti takes to wear out a flash device. According to Toshiba, the inventor of Flash memory and one of the top suppliers of Flash memory chips, the 10,000 cycles of MLC [Multi-Level Cell] NAND is more than sufficient for a wide range of consumer applications, from storing documents to digital photos. For example, if a 256-MB MLC NAND Flash-based card can typically store 250 pictures from a 4-megapixel camera (a conservative estimate), its 10,000 write/erase cycles, combined with wear-leveling algorithms in the controller, will enable the user to store and/or view approximately 2.5 million pictures within the expected useful life of the card.
For USB flash drives, Toshiba calculated that a 10,000 write cycle endurance would enable customers to completely write and erase the entire contents once per day for 27 years, well beyond the life of the hardware.
take into note that is only 10,000 write cycles. 100,000 which is common for most flash drive now a days. so no, he wont even be around to see the day his flash drive even wears out. LOL.
Glad to see this post picking up some steam But lets Try and focus on making A solution rather than discussin known facts
the known facts have already pointed out the problem (memory leaks in the OS) and the only solution we have without the source code (restart the OS by rebooting the phone) so what else is there to discuss?
oh yeah, we can talk about ways to get the source code so we can fix it.
well i posted one idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2257436&postcount=4
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
Thanks for the info. I love DCD roms, but I'm really wondering about this new WM6.5 rom. It would be nice to hear some more comments from others about each. Thanks!
Not so much an opinion as an educated comment...
I think that you are going to find that WM6.5 (and IE8) are just plain designed for devices with more RAM than the Titan's 64MB. It's a hardware limitation that is just going to be difficult to get past. Compare it to running Vista on an older desktop box with only 512MB of RAM... it will work, and look pretty, but it will be very limited. Vista (and WM6.5) were designed around hardware that is unfortunately higher horsepower than older machines like the desktop I used as an example above (in the case of Vista) and the Titan (in the case of WM6.5) have.
It'll be fun to play with (I haven't tried it yet) but expecting it to be a reliable daily driver on the Titan is probably asking a bit much. I found the same thing with Opera 9.5... it is beautiful, and the best mobile browser I have ever seen, but the Titan just can't run it effectively (without the low memory errors).
were getting pretty close on the memory but your right the 6800 got the shaft on the ram dept.
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D
I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
and even with M2D loaded and 18.8MB free at bootup, I am still able to run
google map, sms\mms and IE plus Activesync running .. with no issues..
also runs my TomTom without any issues.. plus 6.5 runs faster as well overall..
granted as you keep loading more apps if you go to task mng, just by opening
task mng. it close some apps .. if you flip to and from your apps you'll see they
are still running .. well my experience anyways...
I use my phone just like if its a PC .. hell this post if from my phone.. the new IE is damm sweet...
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I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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It might be better to compare WM 6.5 to Windows 7 instead of Vista.
Running Windows Vista on an old/slow computer is a horribly bad idea. However in beta testing Windows 7 I installed it on a Celeron M laptop with only 1gb of ram and it ran like a dream (without Aero). My boot up and loading times were equal to XP. So if WM 6.5 is designed correctly, it could work just fine on our devices.
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
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What do you mean without hibernate? I guess that might be a noob question sorry. 25.6 would be even better than DCD roms. Wow.
hibernate refers to oxios hibernate which releases memory to help make your phone run faster
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
ebb said:
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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the main part of 6.5 is done .. whats left is the interface, the build number
will may go up once the interface is added however there is no memory issues
I know of .. other than the first few beta 1-3 release that has the nueKernel
(a 3rd party programs that cause memory issues .. not the 6.5 kernel !!)
that add was removed from beta-4 and no more issues ..
Also note, after the new interface is added to WM6.5 I believe it will be strip out anyways
at it will be built for VGA or higher PDA's and even if there is a QVGA version
its going to require a ton of memory anyways!! what you will be left with is
whats out now anyways!! thus DCD 6.5 may end up being on this same built!!
vickylife007 said:
WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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x2 ..
check this thead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477525
Hi all. Today i have disassemled my Diamond2 (I have looking for reason why it have 288mb of RAM)
And found interesting thing:
Diamond2 have only 1module of memory, it's Samsung (I have recorded markers on the chip but have lost the papper.. ****)
i have COMPLETELY disassemled the phone, i found only ONE module of ram (For example my previous phone had two pieces)
So i think HTC did this:
They merged nonvolatile slow 1024mb module for:
1)512mb for internal storage
2)288mb for RAM
3)Anoter 224mb has been hidden
Its explains how HTC got 288mb for RAM, also explains why Diamond2 3(!)times slower than SE X1 in memory bandwith benchmark (nonvolatile memory not so fast as traditional RAM module).
So i think its possible to get more RAM by editing rom's memory mapping. Actually i can't do it by myself, but is there someone who can do it? I can test "New gen roms" in my spare time
P.S. Eventually we can just pump some MB from Storage (Are you need so much?) to RAM (You definitely need it, especially when use rom with Manila2.5)
P.P.S. Why i think its 1024mb module? Because i never ever seen memory chips like 768mb
good idea.
sadly that I don't know any thing about technics.
looking forward that some guys will make it.
BUMP.
I would love to see this come about!
The module is:
SAMSUNG 967 KBY00N00HM-A448 GML215A7.
Checked with google, didnt find how large it are, but its really nonvolatile memory, also very cheap
Interesting
+1
I always wondered about this. Would be nice if someone could pull this off. Mine starts up with only about 70mb free (uggggh) and slowly but surely goes down to around 58 where it finally seems to stable out at.
Interressed too !
that's quite some smarts digging this up!
will keep checking here for the holy grail of more memory...
I only wish that its possible to do it.
we all are much interessted , but search the developer... i dont know it if works, I mean the topaz is already 1year old , i can't believe that nobody have try this already...
but i hope =D
maybe a radio update will do the trick, like it did on the HD2
Possible beginning of a solution
If it is a 1024MB chip then maybe they simply laser cut a connection somewhere giving access to the rest of the available memory.... Like AMD did on the old Athlon chips to lock the multiplier.
If this is the case then all that's needed is a graphite pencil and the location of the cut connection and we're in business!
except that AMD CPU was on a large peace of PCB, and the connection was easily in sight, while here we're talking about a possible 65 nm technology memory chip completely encapsulated. good luck using a pencil on that. sorry I'm such a show stopper, but it's gotta be somewhere else.
This is a memory module, not an old athlon CPU
Have found a little guide from Loox device:
1) Patch nk.exe ("ulRAMEnd" must read value from ROMHDR, not an constant)
2) Patch nk.exe (Dont let "IPM-functions" in nk.exe rewrite registers in memory controller and activte additional RAM partitions.
3) Change "ulRAMEnd" in ROMHDR, XIP partitions.
4) Edit "OEMAddressTable" in nk.exe.
Just realized, we can try to change "MainMemoryEndAddress" in nk.exe (S000 file). It works for Kaiser/Polaris/Niki, gains 16mb of RAM
This is Great!!! If there is a possible way to do this then our TD2's will run much better and faster
and then if only we can overclock damn processor...
Have checked situation about HD2 hidden ram and found that it actually same with D2 - HD2 also have only one memory module, it doesnt have real RAM memory too.
So it was possible to resize RAM partition by flashing new rom and radio(?).
So i 100% sure it can be done on topaz.
(By the way i think Diamond, TP and Rhodium affected too cause they all got very slow RAM with strange size)
I dont have PC so i cant do it by myself
So our hope is cookers only, or someone like Olinex
P.S. Can someone send me nk.exe from HD2 original and new (With unlocked RAM) roms?
Interesting find! I'm following this with excitement hopefully someone can do something about this... but then thinking about it isn't some of this extra RAM saved for hard resetting by the bootloader?? Getting rid of this will stop that or am I confusing this with the ROM space?
Tim4 said:
Have checked situation about HD2 hidden ram and found that it actually same with D2 - HD2 also have only one memory module, it doesnt have real RAM memory too.
So it was possible to resize RAM partition by flashing new rom and radio(?).
So i 100% sure it can be done on topaz.
(By the way i think Diamond, TP and Rhodium affected too cause they all got very slow RAM with strange size)
I dont have PC so i cant do it by myself
So our hope is cookers only, or someone like Olinex
P.S. Can someone send me nk.exe from HD2 original and new (With unlocked RAM) roms?
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You should also post this in the HD2 ROM Development thread, hopefully someone will send you the files.
Also, this thread is getting more and more interesting! I hope you can come up with something!
Best regards
it isn't some of this extra RAM saved for hard resetting by the bootloader?? Getting rid of this will stop that or am I confusing this with the ROM space?
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Nope, hard-reset will just delete all files on main storage that doesnt have "ROM" marker. Its the only thing it does and doesnt requires extra ram. (I think so, may be i wrong )
Hello,
I am about to get the G9 80 Turbo as the form factor appeals to me. However I am reluctant due to the 512mb RAM. The only experience I have with HC and memory usage is with the HC roms for gtablet and the memory his been a tad high edging towards 512mb .... I do have a number of background tasks running but nothing crazy.
Anyhow does anyone know if the 1.2ghz turbo still comes with only 512mb - archos isn't too forth coming with this info on the tech spec sheet
Also what are folks experiences wrt to memory usage on the 512mb G9 80... (I'm getting mixed reviews)
Thanks a lot, FredT
As far as I know, the turbo devices are still 512mb. I do experience some lag on my regular 80 at times, but a reboot generally fixes that. I am stock everything, so I haven't tried different launchers to see if that helps with lag. I love this tablet, just wish it had a bit more RAM.
Yea archos are tight arses when it comes to ram Scrooges
G9 80 Turbo rocks?
...it does not rock
StocChr said:
G9 80 Turbo rocks?
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So I took the plunge and picked up the G9 80 Turbo (1.2ghz). In a nutshell it does not rock.
Archos, why oh why did you not go with 1gb RAM ?
I get it, the price point of this device was key, but I still feel that compromising on the RAM was a mistake and will cause a suboptimal user experience.
Frankly I worry how ICS is going to run on this.... hopefully ICS has optimized memory usage.
At this price I certainly have lowered expectations but the 512MB RAM and the screen ripple (which mine does have) is making me rethink this purchase.
The problem is that I really like the device's form factor and overall make-up, so I want this thing to be successful...
I use my tablet 3 hours a day but only have the basic android apps installed/running: facebook, RSS reader, tweekdeck, tvshow sched watcher and the standard android / google framework stuff... I even turned off the live wallpaper.
...and it still feels draggy overall and painful when switching from say tweetdeck to browser and then back, tweekdeck and/or the browser have to reload data and reset positions. Frustrating...
I now understand why Archos bundled the convenient System Monitor with the Kill All Apps button
Each time I check free memory it shows 50 - 60mb free, I'm going to poke around and see if I can figure out where the memory is going - maybe I can optimize this thing a bit.
Anyhow with all that said for the price I think I am going just keep it to hack around with android and as a GPS tether to phone...
...but I can not see using this as a daily driver.
Which is a big shame as I think Archos is on to something with this device.
FredT
Fredplex said:
So I took the plunge and picked up the G9 80 Turbo (1.2ghz). In a nutshell it does not rock.
Archos, why oh why did you not go with 1gb RAM ?
I get it, the price point of this device was key, but I still feel that compromising on the RAM was a mistake and will cause a suboptimal user experience.
Frankly I worry how ICS is going to run on this.... hopefully ICS has optimized memory usage.
At this price I certainly have lowered expectations but the 512MB RAM and the screen ripple (which mine does have) is making me rethink this purchase.
The problem is that I really like the device's form factor and overall make-up, so I want this thing to be successful...
I use my tablet 3 hours a day but only have the basic android apps installed/running: facebook, RSS reader, tweekdeck, tvshow sched watcher and the standard android / google framework stuff... I even turned off the live wallpaper.
...and it still feels draggy overall and painful when switching from say tweetdeck to browser and then back, tweekdeck and/or the browser have to reload data and reset positions. Frustrating...
I now understand why Archos bundled the convenient System Monitor with the Kill All Apps button
Each time I check free memory it shows 50 - 60mb free, I'm going to poke around and see if I can figure out where the memory is going - maybe I can optimize this thing a bit.
Anyhow with all that said for the price I think I am going just keep it to hack around with android and as a GPS tether to phone...
...but I can not see using this as a daily driver.
Which is a big shame as I think Archos is on to something with this device.
FredT
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Couple of things you can do to get it to run faster are : install ADW launcher EX and Advanced Task Killer, those 2 should get you running a bit better, other thing is, root the device and get the CPU to run 1.2GHz Full blast...
I didn't realize this thing has 512mb. That stinks. I thought the Turbo ones had 1gb like my Acer A100. That's not very Turbo to me. I just re-read a review, said it has 1gb. IT assuredly does not.
I've been using this tablet for about 3 weeks now and it is amazing, you just need to do a few tweaks and it is well worth your money, might not be as "perfect" as other tablets but it is spectacular for under 300€
I do like a lot about it, for the day I had it. Seems as fast as my A100, but I had to send it back due to 2 stuck on pixels. Hope the new one doesn't have bad pixels. I want more storage and battery life than the Acer, the Archos should hopefully do that.