I am almost ready to try a custom ROM and flash the new radio, etc but...I depend entirely on my PPC6800 (I have Alltel service) for high speed data thru tethering to my MacBook and our home computer. I'm sure I can work thru any bugs with Internet Sharing on our family Windows XP box but does anybody have any experience/issues with USBModem (which I currently use) and the new radio when tethering to a Mac? If it doesn't work I'm screwed. Thanks for any help.
Stay away from 3.27 for now if you need data services...
Hiromitsu
illuminarok said:
Stay away from 3.27 for now if you need data services...
Hiromitsu
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why it works fine for me
blueglide said:
I am almost ready to try a custom ROM and flash the new radio, etc but...I depend entirely on my PPC6800 (I have Alltel service) for high speed data thru tethering to my MacBook and our home computer. I'm sure I can work thru any bugs with Internet Sharing on our family Windows XP box but does anybody have any experience/issues with USBModem (which I currently use) and the new radio when tethering to a Mac? If it doesn't work I'm screwed. Thanks for any help.
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how fast is your internet?
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how fast is your internet?
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I can't remember the speeds (at work right now) but I tested it on a website and they weren't bad. I have Alltel coverage in West Michigan and its by far the best service going. I live in the sticks and there are NO high speed internet services available other than satellite and dial-up. We have dial-up and it sucks! Family uses my phone and data plan rather than dial-up or ridiculously priced satellite.
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I can't remember the speeds (at work right now) but I tested it on a website and they weren't bad. I have Alltel coverage in West Michigan and its by far the best service going. I live in the sticks and there are NO high speed internet services available other than satellite and dial-up. We have dial-up and it sucks! Family uses my phone and data plan rather than dial-up or ridiculously priced satellite.
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A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
The response to this question is overwhelming.
mr.ellsworth said:
The response to this question is overwhelming.
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That is T-Mobile's UMA.
http://www.umatechnology.org/overview/
mr.ellsworth said:
A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
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i havent tried lately, but the last i heard, VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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i havent tried lately, but the last i heard, VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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Yeah, I felt semi-idiotic while holding a phone backwords to my head while I was overseas, but it got the job done..
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Yeah, I felt semi-idiotic while holding a phone backwords to my head while I was overseas, but it got the job done..
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haha!
were you using MS VoIP with Schap's setupvoip.cab or did you install skype or something?
when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set?
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haha!
were you using MS VoIP with Schap's setupvoip.cab or did you install skype or something?
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I was using Skype lowcpu cab.. they could hear me clear as day, but I ended up with a choppy reception of them.
One more weird thing was I couldn't get GPS to lock while I was over there.. It'd pull up the sats, but I'd never get a triangulation.
when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set? sorry i leave to japan this weekend and i am curious to know if anyone has had a good experience with this.
thanks
Although this is Not mogul specific it is a similar thing that you plug into your router and use your internet connection to create a viop cell based mini cell tower works with all sprint cdma phones. So if you will have broadband out @ your farm you can get this. As long as you are in range of your airave box you will not get charged usage minutes, however you are not allowed to use data off of the airave just voice i don't know if that means you won't get text messages or not as it does not say in the brochure or video, it just states that you cant download or use the web on your phone when in airave range. The service can be added to any sprint phone for $15 a month and you get unlimited min while talking off of the airave signal. Any sprint phone can use it up 2 3 phones @ a time but if you don't have the airave on your plan you will get charged cell min based on your plan. If you have a windows mobile phone with wireless the data part of this should not be an issue as we can browse the web off of our wifi on the mogul.
check the site out if you have sprint its similar to T-Mobiles approach but this service will work with any sprint cdma phone as it basically is a mini cell tower that uses your internet to connect to the sprint network to make calls over your cdma bands. T-Mobiles service requires a phone that is compatible.
http://www.sprintenterprise.com/airave/
After reading up on some of the FAQ's I noticed you can use data as normal but it is charged according to your plan and is offered @ the same performance level of current sprint internet no mention of EVDO speeds
Can I use all my normal phone functions like voicemail and text messaging with AIRAVE?
Yes. All the voice functions you enjoy with your Sprint CDMA handset can be used while you are within the AIRAVE coverage area. And while data applications are accessible, they are provided at the same performance level as is currently available through Sprint Vision. In addition, data usage is not part of the unlimited plan.
What is the range of the Sprint AIRAVE?
The coverage radius is up to 5,000 square feet.
Does a wireless call I make within AIRAVE coverage continue once I leave the coverage area?
Yes. Calls originating inside the AIRAVE coverage area transfer to the Sprint Nationwide Network once you leave the AIRAVE coverage area.
Note: you will be billed at your regular wireless plan rate for the portion of the call that has been transferred to the Sprint Nationwide Network.
Does a wireless call that starts outside of my home transfer to the Sprint AIRAVE coverage area when I arrive home?
Calls made outside the AIRAVE coverage area are not transferred to the AIRAVE device even though you may be within the coverage area. If you wish to take advantage of the unlimited calling feature of AIRAVE, you must end the call that was placed outside of the coverage area and initiate a new call on the AIRAVE device.
Can I restrict who has access to my Sprint AIRAVE?
Yes, you can limit who has access to your AIRAVE device by creating a list of approved Sprint phone numbers (up to 50 phone numbers). You can create your list by calling Customer Care at (888) 211-4727.
Can other Sprint customers use my Sprint AIRAVE?
All Sprint customers with a Sprint CDMA handset can use the AIRAVE device. However, the customer must have the unlimited calling plan on their account in order to take advantage of the unlimited calling plan.
some of the more important questions that the FAQ answers
Thanks, I will check into this.
I installed Skype from the website, but I get no sound when a call connects. Can anyone help? Also where did you get the Skype lowcpu cab?
Skype Low CPU cab.. it's the only one I've got to work decently with the Titan.
http://rapidshare.com/files/122979389/Low_CPU_2.0.0.51.zip.html
Sorry about the rapidshare. I tried to upload it here and it kept failing.
Thanks I got it to work. Appreciate your help.
mr.ellsworth said:
A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
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interesting question, and i would like to mention that what you want is basically, all the same cell phone shebang, but over WiFi, am i correct?
If this is so, id probably imagine its a Carrier given feature. I would like to divulge on this more, as i would love this as well.
Yes, its a carrier-specific feature. T-mobile basically has a VOIP service back end into their system as well as the GSM front end.
That way, your phone can switch between using GSM towers or the internet, and either way reach T-mobile.
Since Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, etc... do NOT have such a back end in place, you can't call with your normal phone line over IP.
what you CAN do, however, is set up an additional line with some voip carrier such as broadvoice, freedigits, vonage, skype, etc... and then run that second line from your handset over IP.
I used to do this in my office where I had no cell reception- I'd have my calls forwarded to a freedigits line, which has free incoming calls over IP. The caller would be transfered to my other number without knowing. The problem is, if I called them back, it would be from some number that they wouldn't recognize as my own.
I wrote about it over a year ago here:
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-never-miss-call-with-your.html
dcd1182 said:
VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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Yes. that's true....
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when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set?
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Yes, you can...
jerason said:
Skype Low CPU cab.. it's the only one I've got to work decently with the Titan.
http://rapidshare.com/files/1229793...doesn't work.
Am I missing a step somewhere?
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When I installed this cab on Sprint Mogul DCD 3.2.5 3.42.50 radio, I couldn't get the program to load up. I would press the Skype program icon and see the rainbow spinner telling me the phone is thinking, then nothing. Even after multiple reinstalls and soft resets, it still doesn't work.
Am I missing a step somewhere?
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No. I had this working somewhere around dcd 3.2.1, but since I upgraded to 3.2.2 and now 3.2.5 it isn't working anymore. It worked well with older dcd versions though, but don't quote me on the 3.2.1. It might have been before that but I'm pretty sure it was 3.2.1 if you really want to give it a shot. I would soft reset after Skype install before launching it.
I recently upgraded to DCD 3.2.6 and Radio 3.35.04
I've noticed horribly slow internet, especially when tethering. We're talking dial-up speeds OR WORSE!
I've also noticed that the tethering seems to disconnect VERY frequently from the computer. 2-3 times in a 30 second period sometimes!
I'm on vacation and am trying to use my computer and phone to plan activities but it's so slow it's useless and worse is making my girlfriend irrate! Any ideas? Suggestions? Tweaks?
Thanks! This is driving me crazy!
PS - My computer is running Vista... but it used to be great.
who is your service provider? it could be a bad cell tower spot you are in, go into settings>>>phone>>services>>>mode of operation>>>get settings>>> and select EVDO only, this may help lock it into higher speed service, just remember to put it back into hybrid when u start travelling so it will switch towers freely...also upgrade your radio to the same one listed in my signature
Tried...
I change the mode to EVDO only but it doesn't seem to have helped. I also ran a *228 as well, just in case I wasn't getting the right towers. I'm using Verizon Wireless.
Still dog slow.
I can't upgrade the radio at the moment - as I in Las Vegas and only have my Vista laptop with me.
Although... I DO have a 2MB SD Card with me... but I've never upgraded from a card before... just from a USB connection.
Try changing the DNS servers. I had a huge difference in speed after I changed my DNS servers from Sprint's to OpenDNS.
https://www.opendns.com/smb/start/device/windows-mobile-5-pocketpc
I just got the phone and I cannot find the right radio to use in order to get 3g speeds:
. What is the best radio to use in order to get 3g and HSUPA speeds over 300 kbps/sec? I use to have this speed when I got my AT&T 8525 that is ancient now. How do I get the speed I use to have off the 8525 on this phone?
Thank you for your responses in advance.
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I just got the phone and I cannot find the right radio to use in order to get 3g speeds:
. What is the best radio to use in order to get 3g and HSUPA speeds over 300 kbps/sec? I use to have this speed when I got my AT&T 8525 that is ancient now. How do I get the speed I use to have off the 8525 on this phone?
Thank you for your responses in advance.
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I have the same radio and get between 1Mbps and 2.5Mbps when I tether...
theonemarcus said:
I just got the phone and I cannot find the right radio to use in order to get 3g speeds:
. What is the best radio to use in order to get 3g and HSUPA speeds over 300 kbps/sec? I use to have this speed when I got my AT&T 8525 that is ancient now. How do I get the speed I use to have off the 8525 on this phone?
Thank you for your responses in advance.
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Do you mean HSDPA?
(downlink - tower to phone)
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HSUPA
(uplink - phone to tower)?
Is your posted speed from the downlink test?
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I have the same radio and get between 1Mbps and 2.5Mbps when I tether...
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well as u see i am new at this. i read a lot from these forums since i love the htc product. but i don't know how to tether or anything like that. i just installed the radio i just displayed hoping to be able to get 3g speed. but it stays at edge at all times.
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Do you mean HSDPA?
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HSUPA
(uplink - phone to tower)?
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and the site u used to determine my speed i just found off google is a downlink site. and still my speed is slower than edge speeds.
Keep in mind the tower that is servicing your phone can have crap for bandwidth too.
I was near Gretna, VA on a trip and had full bars on 3g. I swear they had a dial-up modem on the other end of the tower though. Google maps were loading up slower than a typical edge connection.
In the end, it may not be your radio that's giving you trouble.
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Keep in mind the tower that is servicing your phone can have crap for bandwidth too.
I was near Gretna, VA on a trip and had full bars on 3g. I swear they had a dial-up modem on the other end of the tower though. Google maps were loading up slower than a typical edge connection.
In the end, it may not be your radio that's giving you trouble.
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I tried it through out Atlanta today. Different towers and several areas of metro Atlanta. West Atlanta, North Atlanta, and East Atlanta.
Keep in mind my phone is the htc touch pro. I do not have the brand names from t-mobile or AT&T.
Should I try a different rom or is that a useless effort?
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I tried it through out Atlanta today. Different towers and several areas of metro Atlanta. West Atlanta, North Atlanta, and East Atlanta.
Keep in mind my phone is the htc touch pro. I do not have the brand names from t-mobile or AT&T.
Should I try a different rom or is that a useless effort?
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perhaps 3G is disabled in your phone settings or the manila settings...
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perhaps 3G is disabled in your phone settings or the manila settings...
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You may have a hardware limitation. I noticed on the various Rhodiums that were around and for sale, the unlocked Touch Pro 2's stated they were not ATT 3G compatible, although they were 3G compatible. Apparently there are different implementations of 3G.
You may want to look into whether that is something in the firmware associated with the radio (Radio ROM) or the hardware itself.
Sounds like sprint
If you have the SPRINT service or a SPRINT phone, you do not have the "3G" icon enabled. This is because SPRINT uses the EDGE network and not the 3G network. They say that their network now (REV A) is actually what they consider 3.5G and is supposed to be faster than regular 3G . I have no issues with my phone with the speed, however, if you want the 3G to display, find a custom task bar and that icon will change to the 3G. Once again, SPRINT does not display "3G"
Hope this helps.
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the setting show that 3g is enable.
mwcostello said:
You may have a hardware limitation. I noticed on the various Rhodiums that were around and for sale, the unlocked Touch Pro 2's stated they were not ATT 3G compatible, although they were 3G compatible. Apparently there are different implementations of 3G.
You may want to look into whether that is something in the firmware associated with the radio (Radio ROM) or the hardware itself.
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i looked into the hdw side of things ... it looked like it is compatible according to the specs. i did notice there r some firmware update on htc that was released this yr. i'll have to look into that.
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If you have the SPRINT service or a SPRINT phone, you do not have the "3G" icon enabled. This is because SPRINT uses the EDGE network and not the 3G network. They say that their network now (REV A) is actually what they consider 3.5G and is supposed to be faster than regular 3G . I have no issues with my phone with the speed, however, if you want the 3G to display, find a custom task bar and that icon will change to the 3G. Once again, SPRINT does not display "3G"
Hope this helps.
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i thought of that too. that this rom my not have the 3g icon, but from time to time it will show "G" and then back to "E". and as far as i know ... i shough have close to 300kbs or more for downspeed. and i right?
thanks everyone for all of ur input. i'll look into all of it and get back to u. thx again.
If you have a standard Touch Pro (not Fuze or T-Mobile version), there's a very good chance you accidently picked up European version of it. European version will have European 3G, which is not compatible with US 3G frequency bands. Look into your documentation and see if you phone supports the following:
AT&T uses 850/1900
TMobile uses 1700/2100
European frequency bands are 1800/2100 if I remember correctly.
I have the Fuze and radio 1.14.25.35, and I get 396kB/s with only 2 bars...
Oh, and I'm in Connecticut.
lame!
something has got to be wrong man....i live hours away from 3G and if i even look at my phone wrong i lose reception!
BUT i got 281-392 Kbps!
Have you called your provider?
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Keep in mind the tower that is servicing your phone can have crap for bandwidth too.
I was near Gretna, VA on a trip and had full bars on 3g. I swear they had a dial-up modem on the other end of the tower though. Google maps were loading up slower than a typical edge connection.
In the end, it may not be your radio that's giving you trouble.
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If you have a standard Touch Pro (not Fuze or T-Mobile version), there's a very good chance you accidently picked up European version of it. European version will have European 3G, which is not compatible with US 3G frequency bands. Look into your documentation and see if you phone supports the following:
AT&T uses 850/1900
TMobile uses 1700/2100
European frequency bands are 1800/2100 if I remember correctly.
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That could be true, but the documentation i have states:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
the 850 and 1900 Mhz should not matter if its in europe or in usa, right???
but there is a new updates. i Used IE on the phone and my speed is incredible. i was able to test 3mb and it came back with speeds higher than fast 3g. just like my old phone. but under opera it would not go any faster than 40 kbs. i used another browser called skyfire. and i went to mobilespeedtest and got: . i went to cnet brandwidth test and got 3632.3 kbps. lol. amazing it looks like opera was my problem. hear are all of my results:
opera: (after testing using the other browsers now i get these results)
mobilespeedtest.com
cnet bandwidth test
.6745 mbps
IE:
mobilespeedtest
.408 mbps
Skyfire:
mobilespeedtest.com
cnet bandwidth test
3.2588 mbps
is it me ... or does your phone get warm when u use the net for a long time???
I doubt that the results are valid with a browser like Skyfire. It does all the rendering on the skyfire server instead of on your phone. It's probably reporting the rates in between the test site and the Skyfire server. Skyfire is fast, though; it's much faster at bringing up a full webpage than any other browser. You can open up espn.com in about 5 seconds.
I've always had good luck with my radio [see signature]
Before I say anything else I would like to give a huge thanks to all of the developers and people that assist in the process of making these phones above par in every imaginable way. I could not have achieved this without you.
First things first, I am not entirely sure what THE contributing factor has been that has allowed me to do this. I am brand new to flashing, I finally took the plunge last Friday, but what I do know is that before I flashed my phone it was impossible for me to connect to Xbox Live via my Touch Pro. Through the troubleshooting on my Xbox I would always make it to 'internet' but always failed when trying to connect to Xbox Live.
I am going to share my settings with you so you can see how I accomplished this. For those who are asking, no I do not have an internet account set up at home. For now it is a financial decision that is beyond mine and my wife's means so figuring this out has had huge dividends for us. One more thing, I would not advise this if you do not have an unlimited data plan.
Okay, last friday I flashed my phone to NFSFAN's latest ROM and the Telus Radio. I adjusted my TCP settings via Advanced Config. to the max setting in it which is 98304. Though I know there are ways to make the wifi be used as a hotspot, I simply transferred a program I have been using for sometime over to the new ROM after flashing, it is Walking Hotspot. I enabled this program on my phone and connected to the network my phone was sending out via a wireless adapter for my Xbox 360. After doing that I logged into my account on my Xbox and boom.... Xbox Live.
My theory is that it lies in the ROM that was flashed. I tested all of the radios that are available to be flashed for CDMA and had the same results for all, so it does not seem to solely rest on the Telus. Even though after substantial speed testing, the Telus, for my phone understanding each phone has different results, had the highest download speeds. Average speeds ranged from 1.09 Mbps at one bar of reception to 3.5 Mbps at four bars of reception.
I have played multiplayer for hours, downloaded megabytes of DLC content, and watched TV shows and movies over Netflix without it over heating the wifi within my phone. It has been an amazing experience.
I wanted to post this because a few months ago I searched tirelessly to find a solution to fix the non-connection issue I was having. Hopefully, if someone is in the same boat this can be of some help to them.
I've wanted to try this but i find it hard to believe that the internet is fast enough to support playing over Xbox live.
Never know tho i could be wrong
I thought the same thing until I tried it. I promise you, all of the information I shared on here is legitimate.
Don't be surprised if you end up seeing data charges on your bill. Stealth tethering or not w/o a Phone as a modem plan they know that you are not browsing the web on your device. Just lettin you know. I'm banned from XBL any way lol.
confirmed
I've been doing this since my 8525 and kaiser. I do mine somewhat different though. I use internet sharing on my laptop from my phone, then hook up my 360 to my laptop and bridge the connection. Works great, been doing it for like 3 years now and no overage charge for my data, still at 9.99 a month.
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I use internet sharing on my laptop from my phone,
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That is a 'teathering'
they can detect that.
however the wifirouter is what he is explaining.
fnakfhe said:
That is a 'teathering'
they can detect that.
however the wifirouter is what he is explaining.
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If there was a detection issue, I'm sure I would be paying thousands of dollars for the 13mil of kilobytes I processed through this past month. Thankfully it is not.
Yeah I have been doing this with my free version of WMWifirouter since my mogul. I am on Sprint, and the speeds are fast enough. So WMWifiRouter + Xbox wifi adapter=Xbox live. Didn't realize this was not possible on all. Huh, who knew?
btw
do still have the free wifirouter file handy?
i had it for my mogul as well but... that was dropped in soup... with all my wm file cabs...
i tried searching for it again with no luck...
I've just got a sim only contract for my hd2 with "unlimited" internet access, and the first thing i did was check the internet speeds on winmo using :http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1 (Down: 0.119mb/s)
Then tested it using the ookla speedtest app on android (Hyperdroid, Bangsters, SuperHD2, mattc froyosense) all of them the newest build, and the highest I could get was 0.219mb/s, with a downlink of 0.19
I checked the 3g coverage in my area using the virgin media website and I've been told it's "VERY GOOD"...
Is this the speeds I'm meant to be getting? If so, it seems that I was expecting too much from my hd2 + virgin mobile combination.
Oh, one last thing, my brother with a 5800 Xpressmusic told me that he got speeds of 2.89mb/s, we're on the same virgin mobile network.
I know with Tmo I get around 2+mbs down. Just depends on your area and several other factors like network usuage in your area and so on and so on.
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I know with Tmo I get around 2+mbs down. Just depends on your area and several other factors like network usuage in your area and so on and so on.
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:O Must be the phone then, cos brother was trying it just 5 feet away from me, anyone with artemis rom in the same boat as me?
Update: Just went back to shubcraft build, and getting 0.5mb/s+ ... so, twice as much as bfr.
Oh, and forgot to mention, moved to the 2.14 radio ... Will try the other builds and see if its a build issue or a radio one.
How is that radio working for you with Shui's build?? Any probs with sound on incoming/outgoing calls?? You using PPP or RMNET?? PPP with that build I was getting high mid 2-3mbps.On this WinMo Rom I'm getting about 2mbps.