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Just an FYI -
There is a NEW StarTrek coming soon. This, of course, will be available all over the world and Cingular will be caring it. There are some major upgrades to this device. (GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100, WM6, 400Mhz CPU and a 2MP Camera) Not to shabby for a clamshell.
HTC S420
Here are the specs - http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=727&view=1
Enjoy -
as cartman would say, sweeeeeeeetttttt!
Where have you read anything that Cingular will carry this for sure? I'm hoping that they will but to date all I have seen is speculation.
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Where have you read anything that Cingular will carry this for sure? I'm hoping that they will but to date all I have seen is speculation.
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John - Here are some articles from the press. Also, this does have the GPS chip in it also. The downside is that the preliminary specs show a USB 1.1 speeds. Arghh!! Why have a phone this nice with USB 1.1 is crazy! Not all that bad though.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2007/03/more_htc_s420_details_emerge.html
http://www.uberphones.com/2007/03/htc/more_on_the_htc_s420/
http://www.instagps.com/entry/rumored-htc-s420-erato-has-gps-too/
Enjoy -
128mb rom and 64mb ram is useless in a device with these specs. You will have limited opportunity of putting it to use without running out of memory. And why such a meagre battery? I would have thought that cingular 3125 has set the way to go.
sales figures (the future of WM flipphones) ?
Does anyone have sales figures on the 3125 ?
Basically, I'd like to know if it appears that Smart flipphones like the 3125 are popular enough that we can expect strong future developments, even an increase in their prevalence.
There's a constant little battle, e.g. in Treo forums, WM forums, as to whether *everyone* wants a QWERTY, whether candybay-QWERTY phones are the "one true" form factor. I for one, prefer no QWERTY, and a flipphone. I have a feeling that I'm in the minority -- but that's ok. The real question is: Is it so small a minority that we can't expect much in the way of future offerings. The 3125 is really the only current example of this form factor (there were the Samsung i500, i600, and the Kyocera 7135 and the Moto MPX200 in the past). Is the future not terribly bright ?
I really want an 3125-like phone WITH a touch screen, running full PPC. No way ? Why not ?
Qwerty-haters unite
I really want an 3125-like phone WITH a touch screen, running full PPC. No way ? Why not ?
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We may be in the minority, but I'm totally with ya - that is my ideal converged device. The numeric keys are the important ones (especially in my case, where my employer enforces passcode lock if I choose to do Exchange sync, so I am punching in numbers all the time). But Qwerty tends to add a lot of bulk on a device that I want slim and pocketable - so if you want slim like I do, touchscreen and stylus should be good enough for text entry. I think most people haven't worked with stylus enough to see that it can be pretty fast.
The 3125 is really the only current example of this form factor
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Well, if you are in the US, there is one other offering now. If you don't mind a CDMA network, Verizon recently came out with the Pantech PN-820 WM5 flip smartphone. Not significant worldwide, but maybe a hopeful sign for our favorite form factor...
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/02/03/verizon-gets-pn-820-smartphone-out-the-door/
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Well I still agree we are in the minority, but a couple of manufacturers are about to give us our wildest dream and see if it flies. If you haven't already, you need to check out the upcoming i-Mate Ultimate 9150, supposed to be available in June this year. It's everything you've mentioned - flip-phone with WM6 Pro (full PPC with touchscreen) and a very nice spec sheet:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=720
The only thing it is missing that I really want in my ultimate converged device is built-in GPS. For that, I am keeping my eye on the upcoming HTC P5500 (aka "Nike"), supposed to be available in September. It is a numeric slider instead of flip, but similar idea so maybe close enough for me...
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=736
I agree, the 3125 form factor is the way to go. I can type much faster with T-9 than with the Qwerty anway. Unfortunately, everyone seems to be in love with either the bricks like the 8525 or the Treo.
Thanks for the pointers to coming promising smart flipphones. Perhaps there *is* a god ... We should throw the upcoming Samsung SGH-i770 into the same mix: with its innovative QWERTY, it might just solve the debate between dialpad and QWERTY:
http://www.handcellphone.com/archives/innovative-qwerty-full-keyboard-design-samsung-i770-cellular-phone#more-109
Is there any way we can ask/suggest to HTC to build a StarTrek with a touch screen and full PPC ?
still no wifi? WHY?!
I'd gladly forget 3G and include a WiFi chip... Because when I don't have a signal, I love to surf and find WiFi hotspots, and I have all my calls forwarded to a skype number when unavailable (sort of like UMA, tho uma isn't available yet).
I wanted the StarTrek so badly, but lack of WiFi breaks the deal for me! I was hoping they'd add it to this one... *sigh*, guess I'm stuck with my tornado for now, with wiFi.
new start trek
i have qtek 8500 and its a fantastic phone now with this new one i could replace it
pitty the new one hasnt got wifi otherwise what i heard about it is a very good phone much better and faster than qtek 8500
I agree, I would give up 3g for a Wifi chip if it would cost acouple bucks more. I access the internet at higher speeds with a Wireless internet at home and work! The internet via Cingular is SLOW, even at it's fastest. Its like comparing dialup with high bandwidth. Cingular can not come close to 15 Mbps download and 1 Mbps upload speeds.
Did Pawel062, ltxda, Cmonex and Olipro give up on the Athena and move on to the polaris?
Its been a couple of months since the their last rom and I have been hoping to try another one. Has it really been two months?
Wonder if anyone else is willing to build one, or Midget update his rom kitchen with new os and easier to use like pandora's kitchen for Hermes, or will the original group still release their secret rom version 4?
A new rom from Pawel062 would be my preference tho.
Post #423 in the AP Dual Thread indicates they are working on it.
they will be releasing a surprise in a few days or weeks that will make our athena become more powerful. Maybe a video driver fot he ati chipset?
They have said it will be a while before V4 is released so more likely weeks rather than days. Not sure what else they can add but I'm sure it will be great.
In the mean time I'm happy with V3
an update for the kitchen is on its way
takes longer because i have to get someone with an athena to test it
well im waiting to recieve a new build *cough* midget.. the new build with have the latest of all the apps. we before have been working on expanding the os.nb so more will fit in the rom making the extended rom maybe even empty. this would mean u would have as much storage as if u wouldnt let anything install from extended rom.
we are hopping to also maybe get the snapvue orientation done for 4.0 I dont know if what we want will work but we haven't really tried yet. remember also im working t the same time on a polaris rom for those people. that doesnt mean i aint working here. i am using a newer beta of a build i got a few weeks ago. too bad this build isnt releaseable.
we have a few more suprises up our sleeves but i cant reveal everything
Thanks for the update Midget and Pawel, can't wait to see your latest developments. We appreciate both of your efforts and time spent to make our devices more productive and usefull. And thanks to ltxda for his contributions, testing and very helpfull responses to many, many questions.
Since 6.1 for UNI is released, I can post here a basic clean 6.1 ROM for athena.But Before that I must take permissions from Oli and Pawel, if they say yes, then I do that.
no need. we will have same space if clean or full as said previously. u probable have seen this already.
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Since 6.1 for UNI is released, I can post here a basic clean 6.1 ROM for athena.But Before that I must take permissions from Oli and Pawel, if they say yes, then I do that.
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Can you give us your initial impression of 6.1 versus 6? I'm very curious to know the difference in terms of performance, signal strength, battery life, and what major UI enhancements there are.
Thanks!
hdubli said:
Since 6.1 for UNI is released, I can post here a basic clean 6.1 ROM for athena.But Before that I must take permissions from Oli and Pawel, if they say yes, then I do that.
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A clean basic one would be fantastic. I don't mind not using up the space as long as I don't have unwanted software appearing. I would rather install all software myself, so that I can choose my own and upgrade to newer version whenever I want.
Would be fantastic to go to 6.1 now. Can you PM me to let me have it please?
I was about to stop using athena, but then came 6.1 and I could cook using pawel kithen with T mobile wm6 ROM as a base ROM.It became so responsive that i can't imagine.very fast and snappy, feels like there is a 624 Mhz processor.Threades SMS is good, and now u hv signature "Sent from my Windows Mobile Device" in mails, and some improvement towards phone side, viz easy contact lookup.
Would be great to see a nice clean ROM with as less as possible! can hardly wait to discover what you can do with 6.1!!
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they will be releasing a surprise in a few days or weeks that will make our athena become more powerful. Maybe a video driver fot he ati chipset?
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Checking the registry, the filesystem, and the ati config txt file in \windows, it looks to me like the ATI is very much being supported. Its not the same issue as the big Qualcomm problem HTC is having - the Advantage is a PXA270+ATI.
The video playback issue is likely due to the fact that TCPMP/CorePlayer team have *never* gotten their ATI support sorted. Since thats the only player we've got, the problem effects everyone.
Performance on my x7501 is about the same as my HX4705 and the registry settings indicating ATI drivers are definitely there.
HKLM\Sytem\DDraw\DeviceEnum indicated ace_ddi.dll (thats the ATI driver)
\Windows has the ATI driver files and also the config file: atihwtbl0.txt
Selecting Imageon Decoder in TCPMP *does* work, the support just totally sucks and their support is for a different Imageon series to begin with (the 3200). The CorePlayer team claim they expect to sort out the ATI issues and have been working with ATI. We'll have to wait and see.
other than TCPMP, video performance for me on the Advantage is fine (scrolling, games, menus, etc). The symptom of having no driver support (as on the Qualcomm chipset) is horrible ddraw performance all over the place (scrolling, switching orientation, etc)
OK, so we are now saying that Athena has got ATI supported?
If so then why is media player so crap at playing videos full screen? Or has Microsoft not integrated ATI support properly into that too?
The whole thing is a shambles as Microsoft and HTC clearly work closely together as the wizard has been a part ofthe MS Windows Mobile website for ever and they cant use the image etc without permission can they....
If it's TCPMP's fault then shame on them... letting this run away with us and not bothering to comment that it's their fault all along!! You're not telling me they dont read this forum! LOL Come on guys own up and let's get on with things. The Athena is a brilliant machine let down by a few niggles that can easily be sorted I'm sure!
Basically yes, thats what Im saying.
WMP has always been pretty horrible on Win Mobile, so I dont even count that.
TCPMP support for ATI has always been REALLY bad going ALL the way back. My first VGA ATI device was the Toshiba E750! They've never gotten it right. They have always blamed ATI but claim (now that they are a commercial entity) that ATI is working with them and a final fix MAY be in 1.2 (which MAY be due in Feb)
You can go to coreplayer.com, search for ATI and see the gory details. WAY more devices have had the Imageon chip then this batch and NONE of them have been good. The Qualcomm chips have a different problem. If you check the registry, I believe that on those guys, the generic MS drivers are referenced and the ATI drivers arent included. Im not sure if anyone has tried copying them on and changing the registry, but the key would be getting that ATI driver config txt file right. That would be hard I think.
On the x7501, that stuff is all there. It looks JUST like my HX4705 just with different settings in the ATI txt (which makes sense - its a different Imageon). That leads me to believe that the ATI is integrated just fine.
What leads us to believe it isnt? TCPMP performance and WMP performance right? Well... performance on those has sucked for EVERY Imageon device and is an acknowledged issue by them.
This is good news really! If 1.2 comes out in Feb and does what they say,these issues on the Advantage will go away. The HTC Qualcomm devices will still suck.
The way it works with MSFT isnt quite what you'd imagine. They supply the OS and its agnostic. They supply it to OEMs and it requires two key things in order to actually be implemented - a BSP (board support package) and a RIL (radio interface layer). It is up to the OEM (HTC in this case) and the radio provider (often Qualcomm) to come together and integrate the Win Mobile OS onto the hardware and "plug it in" to those two lower level components.
Its almost like imagine if Windows NT was out of MSFT control from the HAL on down. Thats how it is with Win Mobile basically. Its a deliberate decision to give OEMs and carriers power and hence 1) stay out of monopoly court which is where EVERYONE wants MSFT ALL the time from now on and 2) encourage them to actually jump on board (in the face of powerful phone incumbants).
It can be good and bad. The good its lots of devices from all kinds of folks with all sorts of neat possible hardware and a common set of APIs, system software and UI. The bad is **** like this debacle with HTC. Apple and Nokia would be the diametrical opposite. Where the hardware OEM is also fully integrating the OS and, presumably, the radio and just submitting it to a carrier for compat testing. They have monolithic control over their devices and are, in essence, monopolies within their platform. Qualcomm is a pain in the ass in that they are a huge radio provider, jumped into software with BREW (which got huge traction) and generally is a powerhouse in the mobile space, yet is notoriously very difficult to work with and pretty draconian.
With the source code now released how long do you guys think it will be before one of these mad catz works through it and optimizes it for the HTC Titan?
http://source.android.com/projects
I'm guessing we will see something within a month. I'm hoping sooner than that because I can't wait to try this out, I've been messing around with the SDK for a while and I'm looking forward to what is to come!
What do you guys think? Will we see one by Friday? By Nov? In one month?? By Christmas??
I hope something soon. I too want to see all the G1 goddiness on my Titan. Who knows. it might even have a working hardware acceleration driver!
my bet is by Christmas... I am planning on keeping an eye on the Vogue android thread by dzo He is the one that was able to get the SDK releases of android running via Haret... and to my understanding the Vogue and Titan are similar enough that most progress that they can make on the vogue will be relevant to the Titan...
I am not going to be getting a new phone anytime soon, so the idea that I might be able to have a new OS to play with on my phone is very enticing
I am excited about this whole android thing! I am not a devoleper, but I do like to modify, and tinker.... I would love to play with android when it gets close to ready, but I am wondering... is it / would it be possible to dual boot an OS with such limited resources? (i am afraid I don't realy understand how the ROM / OS thing works...) Or would it be more of a second device kinda thing untill all of the kinks are worked out?
I would say a hell of a lot sooner if we all stopped waiting and got to work.
I was surprised to receive a call while running it for the first time today. Need alignment and button mappings for a start.
The Titan doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for Android. Android requires 256MB flash memory and 128MB RAM. The Titan has 256MB of flash memory (which means you wouldn't be able to add anything to the phone), but it only has 64MB RAM (which means you're out of luck).
Don't get your hopes up, people.
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The Titan doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for Android. Android requires 256MB flash memory and 128MB RAM. The Titan has 256MB of flash memory (which means you wouldn't be able to add anything to the phone), but it only has 64MB RAM (which means you're out of luck).
Don't get your hopes up, people.
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my hopes aren't up too high, I don't think we will be dual booting, or completely replacing the WM rom with an android rom really, but I don't see any reason why we wouldn't be able to get android running via haret like we have been doing for the past 3 months...
but I am curious, do you have a link to the minimum android requirements?
From my understanding Android was developed to be able to run on just about any device. In an interview with Googles Director of Mobile Platforms, Andy Rubin
Q: What were the primary development challenges for Android? Did you design it with high-end or mainstream hardware in mind, and what are the system requirements?
Rubin: When we built the system, we wanted it to be as flexible as possible. We did a lot of work to write our own library, and it's 250 kilobytes, not 3.4 megabytes.
We took a lot of those types of considerations when we were developing the platform. The platform is capable of running, as I said, on kind of mid- to lower-end devices as well.
We feel that one of the platform's distinguishing features is how it handles access to data. I talked about the mashups on the Internet and everything else. So, although the platform can run in a stripped-down fashion on mass-market phones, we think that the initial devices will be mid- to higher-end phones just because of the data access capabilities of the platform.
The minimal requirements are 32 megabytes of RAM, 32 megabytes of flash, and a 200-megahertz online processor. There are companies within the alliance working to bring that to even lower-power phones.
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I am aware that this interview is nearly a year old, so things may have changed, but since I cannot find a recent comment on the minimum requirements I have to assume that they still intend for Android to be able to run on a wide variety of hardware, which would include the Titan
But then again, I could be wrong, I might be missing a very obvious link to the minimum requirements for android.
Thanks in advance for the link
It seems that some people here don't understand that we can already run Android on the Titan. Just go here: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ , get the latest version, extract it to \Storage Card\, and then run the haret.exe.
Of course, we still need a lot of work to be done to make it fully usable. The touchscreen needs a bit of fine-tuning, in my opinion (though it's debatable). Another big issue is the keyboard. I think that some are working on it right now, though.
In looking at the latest offerings from phones, I am curious what people (who own a titan) would upgrade for?
The Touch Pro is the upgrade for the 6800/Mogul. But, It's not that great of an upgrade at this time because know the Touch Pro 2 is on it's way by end of year.
So would wait for the Touch Pro 2, or would you gamble and see if we have an Touch HD2 with keyboard?
My concern is that the new HTC (and it has to be HTC....XDA forums is what adds value to the phones when carries don't) devices are not leaps and bounds upgrades. No 3d acceleration is a big thing as we round the corner on new device OSes.
The Qualcommm procs at 528mhz seem too slow, so I hope HTC has some mid year suprises for us.
Well with verizon it doesnt matter what phone it is, they somehow screw things up and get things a year after the fact, but, I cant believe Im saying this, if the PalmPre comes to VZW and gets video recording...might look there.
If a Touch HD 2 is coming out, it's a ways off. The Touch Pro 2 was just announced. HTC doesn't announce phones often. The original Touch Pro was announced almost a year ago
im digging the samsung omnia by verizon..
i have sprint now..
but with the family plan and data plans (2) it would be $176 a month.... screw that... im at $85 a month now...
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4366
I would totally ditch my phone for an HTC Touch Pro2. That thing looks so sexy and anything has to have more memory than the Titan. If only there was a way to add more to it.
Touch Pro is close but it has mediocre battery life.
The TP2 has an odd sized screen that would lead to compatibility issues.
Right now, Nothing. The Xv6800 does pretty much everything for now. They might get smaller, more memory or maybe a little faster but, it's not a major change.
The current phone, tho is low on the memory scale, does GPS, all WM features, even newest builds of WM 6.5.... I find no need to sign a 2 year contract and not get any really new features in a phone...
When WM 7 devices start showing up (muti-touch, more like iphone feature set), then I will start looking for a new phone...
but, that is just my 2 cents....
David,
I think I am with you on this. The "upgrades" of the Touch Pro and the Touch Pro 2 are not compelling enough to spend 5 bills on, or sign a new contract over.
If only the Titan had more memory, I'd be fine with it. It drives me crazy using Opera or the new IE with all of the low memory issues.
Also there is a good point about the screen size. The current titan is QVGA, and there are many other devices using QVGA. The Diamond/TP are VGA. The new Diamond2/TP2 are WVGA.
So will WVGA be the new "standard" resolution apps are written toward? Will VGA fade quickly because there are not that many phones that have it today, and may not have many with WVGA coming down the route.
If someone could offer a legit upgrade to 128+ megs of memory for the Titan for a reasonable price, I think they could make some serious cash to tide people over.
A Titan with 256MB ram and a new processor. I just realized how much I love the form factor and have come to terms with it's thickness (though I'd prefer thinner), and I am in love with the hardware buttons which make me say that.
But I will likely get a vogue soon because my titan's power button is broken (detached from the main board) and I'm having charging issues. I might replace the xv6800 but verizon has discontinued it and the vogue is free. It's also thinner and I don't know how I'll get over the keyobard and the wifi, but my xv6800 might become my wifi device since I don't need an internet connection constantly, and my 6800 would probably work when I do.
However, I think the touch Pro 2 looks really nice. It has a better keyboard and bigger screen-which I have wanted, but I really would having that ok button. But with the bigger screen it might not matter that much. I want the touch pro 2 to be the iPhone...really.
No one makes the phone I want, no one ever will I think (though the Blackstone and TP2 are close), but I also want iPhone software and a capacitive screen. So if my 6800 didn't have problems I might be lusting a bit over the touch pro and of course the touch pro 2, but the titan should just be given the TP's internals!
I like the 1Ghz Toshiba phone . . . not sure if it will be offered CDMA. I'm locked into VZW with family plan. I'm up for free2 in August, so I'm excited about all the new handsets coming out. I just hope VZW lives up to their promise of open architecture hardware and brings some of the better ones to their customers.
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A Titan with 256MB ram and a new processor. !
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That is the one I want.
256mb ? What do we live in the dark ages ? What would you really want on a phone ?
I'd think at least 2-3gb to start with for memory. Files these days are big, and with all the multi-media features they support I would think we should start seeing phones with much larger memory built in, personaly I kind of expect it on my next phone.
I got my 6800 when my 6700 died for the 3rd time (thank god for insurance), so not under a contract here. My 6800 does almost everything most of us need as of now.
Come on WM 7, get here with some cool azz phones !!!!!!
Touch Pro
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Tungsten W (HD with a keyboard)
DavidinCT: I think you're confusing RAM with just regular storage space. 3GB of RAM in a phone is like 10 years off
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DavidinCT: I think you're confusing RAM with just regular storage space. 3GB of RAM in a phone is like 10 years off
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I dont have that long to wait.... I WANT IT NOW..
plus it is probably like when the cd rom first came out..
they released the 1x but had the 52x designed and made..
1x then few weeks later 2x then 3x to 4x to 8x, 16x etc..... all in the name of making money....
There is nothing out now that makes me want to upgrade. The TP is great but has even poorer battery life than the Titan. The Omnia is on VZW and would cost me almost 2x what I'm paying now per month. I'm also about fed up with WM in general, the promise that the next version will fix the performance issues and improve and simplify the interface has become old. I like what WM can do, but it requires way too much attention and 3nd party software to do it. I'm interested in what the Pre will bring and what Android will become. I'm a bit disappointed in Androids progress though, it's much slower than I thought. If I stay with WM, I will wait for the TP2 at least. This is of course predicated on the continued life of my Mogul.
I jumped for a sprint touch pro (on verizon) and have to say it was worth paying ~$400 off ebay to have the device. It is faster, more stable and a huge step up from my titan. I had to send it back to get the usb port fixed and it is almost painful to go back to my titan. I love my titan, don't get me wrong, but the Touch Pro was worth the upgrade in my opinion.
Not saying I wont run out and get the TP2 or HD when its available!
There aren't really any phones out now that interest me enough to replace my XV. I love my xv, it's the best phone I've ever used. Sure it has its quirks and needs a soft reset every now and then, but I can live with that.
The TP is a great device no doubt, but I can't get over the lack of hardware buttons. I use my "OK" and "Messaging" and "Start" button all the time. The TP just isn't better enough to warrant changing devices. Also, VZW has a neutered version, which bugs me.
That being said, what would make me upgrade? It will take a WM7 device with significantly better hardware or possibly a new Android device. Sorry G1, T-Mo sucks and I don't like your hardware. And as cheap as RAM and flash memory is, I expect the next generation of devices to have at least 512 of RAM.
Touch Pro 2 .. but I would still keep the Titan to play with
as the new phones has just about everything .. not much fun..
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There aren't really any phones out now that interest me enough to replace my XV. I love my xv, it's the best phone I've ever used. Sure it has its quirks and needs a soft reset every now and then, but I can live with that.
The TP is a great device no doubt, but I can't get over the lack of hardware buttons. I use my "OK" and "Messaging" and "Start" button all the time. The TP just isn't better enough to warrant changing devices. Also, VZW has a neutered version, which bugs me.
That being said, what would make me upgrade? It will take a WM7 device with significantly better hardware or possibly a new Android device. Sorry G1, T-Mo sucks and I don't like your hardware. And as cheap as RAM and flash memory is, I expect the next generation of devices to have at least 512 of RAM.
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It is also important to note that more memory (memory = RAM; storage = ROM) means lower battery life. Sure, memory may be cheap, but battery tech hardly ever changes and battery life is a large complaint about current gen devices as is.
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there is a way to upgrade certain parts of the phone, i.e. processor, camera, audio card, etc. I view my phone alot like a pc, and i built my own pc...so i thought to myself. Is there a way to build an android phone? or maybe upgrade existing parts? I think it would be awesome if we were able to pick and choose what we want in our phones! Personally id like a faster processor, and more internal memory. But i feel it'd be beneficial to all people who only use their phones to do certain things and may not want other "Stock" accesories. Maybe not, Let me know what you think/know about this! Id be interested in building my own android device!
Thanks!
Pascal Borner
Sorry but this would be really unrealistic. The battery is one thing, but phones are so compact and dense that parts aren't really made to take out and put in. I know what you mean, I build computers for a living.
But the parts in phones aren't socketed or use slots, so even just to start would require major unsoldering. I briefly tried to find out how many pins the ARM v6 processor of the Eris has. I'm sure it's a lot, perhaps not as many as the 940-pin AMD AM3 or the 1366-pin Intel Core i7, but it's probably in the hundreds.
And then we're dealing with compatibilities. In desktop processors, they keep the same pin architecture for at least a couple years (but you can find the same architecture for at least five). But they probably don't worry about that with phone processors since they're even more dense than laptops so each and every phone has to be made from scratch, so, for instance, the ARM v7 probably wouldn't fit where an ARM v6 was. There's also the software compatibility. I don't know if they make ARM v6's of different processor frequencies, but I doubt it. Even if they did, you'd still have to deal with the many, many pins.
It's doubtful that they have unused spots for RAM in these phones, and it's doubtful you could just remove the existing RAM and replace it with larger without having problems, but even if so, you're still dealing with all of the pins, procuring compatible RAM of a larger logical size...
You get the idea. I guess I'm just a big ray of sunshine!
The FCC probably would object to roll-your-own cell phones, too...
Thanks for your helpful info. I guess that makes sense. I saw a website (from a European country) that you can order a phone and pick parts from them, I.e. size of internal/external drive, different MP for the camera, flash/no flash(camera) , etc. I forget the company but if you like ill post a link to it when I find it. Once again, thanks for the explaination!
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Sure, no problem. Back a while (maybe years now) there was a similar offering by some company for laptops where you could upgrade parts of it at a later time because it was more modular than most laptops at the time. You could almost always upgrade CPUs on laptops as long as they were socketed, and you still can now, it just requires downloading a service manual to find out what the best order of disassembly is in order to do so, so it's not for the everyday user.
But only laptops with discrete video cards have the possibility to upgrade them, although I have no experience with these kind of laptops so I don't know how easy that is.
but...
So i was checking out stuff on replacing screen etc on an samsung s3, and i also found a section where it shows how to replace camera and motherboard, this is to replace with the exact same one obviously. But i was wondering if maybe you could find a similar camera from a different phone that may fit? I know i cant really answer the question...sorry but just adding input. And another question came to mind with regard to the upgrading of hard ware, is if it were possible lets say to upgrade the camera to a better megapixel, would there be a conflict with the os etc, ie in the coding for the phone is it configured to only be able to process and capture a picture of megapixel of the stock camera. not sure if that makes any sense
this is the link with the replacements http://www.ifixit.com/Device/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III