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http://techelive.com/2010/samsung-galaxy-s-android-2-2-froyo-update-released/
Cough it up people, who knows what?
umm... if im not mistaken werent we all expecting the intl version to get froyo first anyways? and seeing as its october 1 I'd say giving the carriers a month to load the crap out of our versions is about right. And if you don't mind me asking, what exactly do want from 2.2? I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler and flash are the only things we're looking for considering our cpu/gpu combo makes it a perfectly decent phone as it stands.
Personally i'm waiting for some ROM devs to port some awesomeness, but alas patience is a virtue
"late October" is fine for me if that's when it actually happens.
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umm... if im not mistaken werent we all expecting the intl version to get froyo first anyways? and seeing as its october 1 I'd say giving the carriers a month to load the crap out of our versions is about right. And if you don't mind me asking, what exactly do want from 2.2? I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler and flash are the only things we're looking for considering our cpu/gpu combo makes it a perfectly decent phone as it stands.
Personally i'm waiting for some ROM devs to port some awesomeness, but alas patience is a virtue
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Honestly, I want flash. Had it on my incredible and I miss it dearly on the fascinate.
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what exactly do want from 2.2? I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler and flash are the only things we're looking for considering our cpu/gpu combo makes it a perfectly decent phone as it stands.
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I want Flash, I want the updated GMail, I want Chrome to Phone, and I'm sure there's a couple other things I'm forgetting at the moment.
ibebyi said:
umm... if im not mistaken werent we all expecting the intl version to get froyo first anyways? and seeing as its october 1 I'd say giving the carriers a month to load the crap out of our versions is about right. And if you don't mind me asking, what exactly do want from 2.2? I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler and flash are the only things we're looking for considering our cpu/gpu combo makes it a perfectly decent phone as it stands.
Personally i'm waiting for some ROM devs to port some awesomeness, but alas patience is a virtue
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Flash, JIT, improved gmail, chrome to phone, voice actions, handsfree bluetooth (not a fan of nuance), etc, not to mention that koush won't work on a cm port until froyo (although it appears wes is working on the vibrant, so who knows). None of them are huge glaring issues, but when you come from a a froyo phone to eclair it's the little things that you miss.
hopefully they can get a hold of a leaked version and start building roms around it so we dont have to wait the extra weeks or months it takes carriers to test and then send it out
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hopefully they can get a hold of a leaked version and start building roms around it so we dont have to wait the extra weeks or months it takes carriers to test and then send it out
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This is exactly my hope. Seeing info posted in spain, I would wonder if that would be the first market to release, and why. Stateside I know the carriers don't like to give ota dates usually until they start rolling out. When Froyo originally hit the first few N1s there was a flashable zip available within hours. As for the benefits, there's a **** ton, including the fact that most of or development will start there.
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oh huh I blanked. why the heck would devs use 2.1 for their ROMS xD
Then yes i am impatiently waiting for this
I hope is true
I cannot wait for froyo, it unlocks the true power of the fascinate
yea flash and roms are what i'm really excited for. i miss that "new phone" feeling
i had droid 2 for a couple weeks b4 trading it in for a galaxy and flash was really nice. plus i swear the youtube quality was better on droid 2s
I'd really like the Bluetooth connections fixed for my Ford Sync. Great device significantly hindered by GPS/Bluetooth/Flash/etc issues.
Don't forget proper MS Exchange support built in - I know several business people who won't make the jump from iPhone to Android until they can do things like manage Outlook Calendaring appointments from their phone.
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Don't forget proper MS Exchange support built in - I know several business people who won't make the jump from iPhone to Android until they can do things like manage Outlook Calendaring appointments from their phone.
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Does anyone else see the irony of being dependent on an Apple product to interoperate with MS software?
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I'd really like the Bluetooth connections fixed for my Ford Sync. Great device significantly hindered by GPS/Bluetooth/Flash/etc issues.
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+1 here. Won't work on my Ford Sync either. Have you upgraded to Sync 2.1? Takes a dealer install
Android does have "proper" Exchange management available by way of Touchdown. While I admit it's not free, it's not terribly expensive either and is FAR more functional than even the iPhone is. At least, as compared to iOS 3.x. I have not seen the enhancements in iOS 4, so I can't comment directly on that, but I'm willing to bet it's still more powerful. That's what's so great about Android though. If what's built in is unsatisfactory, you can find an alternative. Try finding an alternative mail app for the iPhone.
That said, Google really does need to get on the ball and improve their ActiveSync features. It is so rudimentary right now, it's unusable if you're a power user. I almost wish they would buy Touchdown and integrate it into Android.
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That said, Google really does need to get on the ball and improve their ActiveSync features. It is so rudimentary right now, it's unusable if you're a power user. I almost wish they would buy Touchdown and integrate it into Android.
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I would watch that... they just purchased BlindType so they are still buying companies left and right so you just might get your wish this year.
blindtype.com/blog.html?entry=temp
I think so. My dealer just checked the entire system for an error I was getting. Leave it to MS to have a memory leak. Cured the whole problem by removing batter cable and replacing. In PC parlance - a hard reboot!!!
I am able to use the Fascinate with the Sync - just cannot do that and download phonebook and use messaging.
What a pity for a pretty nice phone.
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Android does have "proper" Exchange management available by way of Touchdown. While I admit it's not free, it's not terribly expensive either and is FAR more functional than even the iPhone is. At least, as compared to iOS 3.x.
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Yes you're right about Touchdown, problem is that a lot of people won't invest the time necessary to find apps, especially if they're coming from the iPhone universe where there usually isn't an alternative... it's either in the built-in client or it isn't supported. Sadly, people evaluate (and will strongly criticize) the phone based on how it works straight out the box.
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Yes you're right about Touchdown, problem is that a lot of people won't invest the time necessary to find apps, especially if they're coming from the iPhone universe where there usually isn't an alternative... it's either in the built-in client or it isn't supported. Sadly, people evaluate (and will strongly criticize) the phone based on how it works straight out the box.
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Sadly, you are correct, in that value is often judged in out of the box performance. That's why I said that Google needs to seriously overhaul their Exchange integration. I really hope they do cut a deal with Nitrodesk so they can integrate Touchdown into Android, like they're doing with BlindType.
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Vibrant is a great phone technically speaking, but the manufacture marketing tactic is really a major upset. Months after months, they keep on focusing new product and forget about the 10M mark SGS, they still don't care about making upgrade and kept on giving false hopes. Their KIES is really bloated. I have not bought any Samsung product due to bad reputation in the past. This trick they did will likely be the last. If I have to, it will be a Google phone of some sort where you at least get that upgrade OTA early like Nexus S.
Yes. Ny first samsung phone was an eternity and now im on the captivate. The eternity was a freaking tank and was so awesome! my first touch screen too. now that I have a droid, sure I want 2.2-2.3, but we have devs for that. And my phone would be faster without samsung anyways...oc to 1.4 and ext4 lagfix. Sammy wont do any of that, plus have amazing themes too.
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I know XDA is great for us for personal use. Without XDA, my Vibrant would just be on ebay skidrow.
However, if you are in charge of deploying to 20+ phones for corporate plan, I don't think you can flash ROM and voiding warranty at the same time. CEO would be pissed if he finds out you would do that for the entire company. Users are complaining that its slow and making you look bad for months.
I don't get it...Samsung already sold 10M+, if they are smart, they need to get those users happy, to get more customer comeback in the future instead of held hostage attitude.
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For sure yes. Sure- Samsung has their issues with sucky UI and programming, but the devs over here at XDA definitely more than compensate for that. And the hardware aspects of this phone constantly impress me.
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For sure yes. Sure- Samsung has their issues with sucky UI and programming, but the devs over here at XDA definitely more than compensate for that. And the hardware aspects of this phone constantly impress me.
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I agree that they have great hardware for the moment, but it won't be long until other manufactures catch up. The hostage tactic is really unacceptable. Dual Core and 4G is coming up from other vendors. Samsung hostage tactic won't work anymore. People will have more choices now that Android is becoming mainstream by the next 2 years. There are HTC, Sony-Erricson, BB, Dell...
This poll seems to suggest that there are at least 60% attrition rate. I hope Samsung or T-Mobile is watching this and make up for it somehow later if they want the initial 6 Millions Samsung Galaxy S to return. Yes, we do feel really left out, lied, and scammed. If they surprise us with something out of ordinary then maybe people will forget, otherwise 2 year of upset is a definite no return. For now, I'll just accept the scam for 2 years, I'll wait for other vendor multi core later other than Samsung.
Almost 50 voters and the percentages still looking roughly the same.
This is just endemic of Android fragmentation. Google does not mandate a strict update schedule, and they really give the carriers and OEMs a little too much freedom.
Personally I believe that Google should push the OEMs and carriers to making sure the software is up to date.
I'm not going to unilaterally say I would never buy a Samsung device again, because my Vibrant has a great many advantages. I've finally gotten a Froyo ROM working satisfactorily, so I'm actually content with my phone for the first time in a long time! I love the 4" screen size--it's the sweet spot for me. The MT4G felt just a tiny bit small, but 4.3" devices such as the EVO are just too large for me.
One thing that does bother me is that the haptic feedback on the Vibrant feels really weak compared to the MT4G and other similar phones...
most of you who say no, will get another one by samsung, it all depends.
i would've gotten a HTC (forgot) from TMOBILE, but at tmobile, the only good phone they had while i was buying was a Galaxy s which i heard was the fastest phone in the world... and i got this, im dissapointed with samsung, but i can live without a GPS and updates(updates, but not for like 5 years)
i will buy another samsung phone if its one of the best out, my stock had no lag, and putting voodoo makes it feel a bit faster, but doesn't change much for me.
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This is just endemic of Android fragmentation. Google does not mandate a strict update schedule, and they really give the carriers and OEMs a little too much freedom.
Personally I believe that Google should push the OEMs and carriers to making sure the software is up to date.
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I agree with you. I think Google originally made it open and easy to recruit more OEMs to distribute their product out to the world. In doing so would surpass mobile 7 and catchup to iOS faster. Now that the world is aware of it, I think they should push OEMs to keep up to date, or else people will steer away from it and causes it to lose momentum. Google is like Microsoft. Before jumping in to Android, I thought it has the best of everything. I had good thoughts about Samsung, until I saw the truth. This whole handling of update makes me think twice about buying any other Samsung product. The hardware is great but this update issue just ruins its good image and will make others think twice about buying any other Samsung product.
I still have hope for Google tighten up security later as more hackers will now focuses in on it. If they don't push OEMs to keep up to date, it makes me wonder what happens when there is some real bad exploit that needs patching? We can't even get an update in 1/2 a year, so how can we even rely on have a patch/hotfix? I can't rely on product that has problem with udpates. I thought Microsoft was worse, but hey at least they have updates every Tuesday. Android will be linked to Google "first OS" so they have to do something to gain the positive image. Android is linux, so it should not be that hard to compile. There are plenty of folks in linux community to help out with debugging.
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most of you who say no, will get another one by samsung, it all depends.
i would've gotten a HTC (forgot) from TMOBILE, but at tmobile, the only good phone they had while i was buying was a Galaxy s which i heard was the fastest phone in the world... and i got this, im dissapointed with samsung, but i can live without a GPS and updates(updates, but not for like 5 years)
i will buy another samsung phone if its one of the best out, my stock had no lag, and putting voodoo makes it feel a bit faster, but doesn't change much for me.
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Not everyone. I know for sure, I and maybe 3 millions others will avoid Samsung like a plague. I rather go with someone who has robust update handling. I have been trying a new phone every 2 years. Last year was HTC. This is the first time I tried Samsung and will be the last. SLCD is out competing with superamoled. I'm pretty sure new technology will be out within next 2 years rival superamol. I'm pretty sure other manufactures can gain up to it.
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XDA is really great for us, especially my personal phone. I thank them for being our savior to heartburn Samsung / OEMs caused us. The problem is we can not do the same for business phones. Doing so voids warranty and no boss likes you doing that for the company. If you are the IT administrator who recommend SGS for the entire company as a great phone with over 20+ accounts (corporate discount) and now most complained it being crawling slow. You read the Tmobile facebook, news, and told them update will be out. Months after months, nada. CEO is on your arse for recommending bad phone. Now it makes you look bad because the phones you recommended does not have update after 1/2 a year and no ETA when next one available. Tell me what would you do? If I have to take a poll of the folks at work, they would probably say 90% never to Samsung. I hated boring windows Mobile, but this is worse.
I was going to buy Samsung camera in December, glad, I didn't yet.
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Not everyone. I know for sure, I and maybe 3 millions others will avoid Samsung like a plague. I rather go with someone who has robust update handling. I have been trying a new phone every 2 years. Last year was HTC. This is the first time I tried Samsung and will be the last. SLCD is out competing with superamoled. I'm pretty sure new technology will be out within next 2 years rival superamol. I'm pretty sure other manufactures can gain up to it.
Apple
AudioVox
HTC
i-mate
Kyocera
LG
Motorola
Nokia
Palm
Blackberry
Sanyo
Sharp
Sony Ericsson
Pantech
PCD
XDA is really great for us, especially my personal phone. I thank them for being our savior to heartburn Samsung / OEMs caused us. The problem is we can not do the same for business phones. Doing so voids warranty and no boss likes you doing that for the company. If you are the IT administrator who recommend SGS for the entire company as a great phone with over 20+ accounts (corporate discount) and now most complained it being crawling slow. You read the Tmobile facebook, news, and told them update will be out. Months after months, nada. CEO is on your arse for recommending bad phone. Now it makes you look bad because the phones you recommended does not have update after 1/2 a year and no ETA when next one available. Tell me what would you do? If I have to take a poll of the folks at work, they would probably say 90% never to Samsung. I hated boring windows Mobile, but this is worse.
I was going to buy Samsung camera in December, glad, I didn't yet.
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Did that actually happento u? I'm sorry.
I disagree with this phone being laggy, only some units are laggy, and I totally understand what ur saying, I come from a average consumer, while you, are a businessman, which puts alot of things in a different prescriptive.
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Did that actually happento u? I'm sorry.
I disagree with this phone being laggy, only some units are laggy, and I totally understand what ur saying, I come from a average consumer, while you, are a businessman, which puts alot of things in a different prescriptive.
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Yes. Thanks but no need to sorry. It's Samsungs mess.
I've checked about 8 phones, they were slow on bootup about (4-5 min) and slow to response after pressing home, lots of FCs, and autoreboot on few of them. I told them to don't install anything else but leave it as originals...I factory reset most of them but some users don't really listen like executive folks. What's the point of smartphone if I don't let them install some apps. I don't want them to get angry. After many months of waiting, I decided to look for alternative fixes and that lead me to XDA. I tested on my personal SGS and it works beautifully with very low lag. I even do a little further stress test installing over 250 apps to see how it respond in Froyo, it still works great. Because of that, I know Froyo will fix my problem and users will stop complain about slow phones and other issues. The Froyo are here, I know it can solve most issues, but I can't apply it. It's just frustrating waiting for OTA to happen. I can't rely on Samsung. I regret recommending a Samsung product. I should have trust my instinct and gone with more mature product like *gag* iPhone or tell them to wait a little longer. Samsung mademe look bad with so many delay to release updates. I have to keep finding excuses to the users and smile. Having gone through this one, if they ever ask me for another recommendation, I would certainly not go this route again but rather something that is made for enterprise.
Almost 70 voters, and the sentiment of the people is clear and distribution still holding.
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most of you who say no, will get another one by samsung, it all depends.
i would've gotten a HTC (forgot) from TMOBILE, but at tmobile, the only good phone they had while i was buying was a Galaxy s which i heard was the fastest phone in the world... and i got this, im dissapointed with samsung, but i can live without a GPS and updates(updates, but not for like 5 years)
i will buy another samsung phone if its one of the best out, my stock had no lag, and putting voodoo makes it feel a bit faster, but doesn't change much for me.
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Stock definately has lag. I plan on purchasing the Vibrant 4G when it comes out. Samsung makes good products. The phone is sleek and sexy. It is my favorite looking smart phone out there.
Nope. By the timei need to upgrade, samsung will still be releasing galaxy s phones. I'm tired of the rehashes and releases with only a mrginal improvement, or worse, a hardware flaw from the previousmodel that they fixed with the part 2.
Such as the vibrant not having hspa+ or froyo...but the vibrant 4g has both.
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Nope. By the timei need to upgrade, samsung will still be releasing galaxy s phones. I'm tired of the rehashes and releases with only a mrginal improvement, or worse, a hardware flaw from the previousmodel that they fixed with the part 2.
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According to the leak info, a fix is consider a "feature upgrade" and US carriers need to pay for it.
Such as the vibrant not having hspa+ or froyo...but the vibrant 4g has both.
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That's a "feature upgrade" too I guess. They are milking us every step of their phases.
I just saw the news said Samsung Nexus S will have autofocus...that's a new feature upgrade. Yeap everything is a feature upgrade and it comes in the form of a new phone...I guess that is their business model.
yes, if Team Whiskey supports it
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yes, if Team Whiskey supports it
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I hope you did not think they generate new software from scratch so you can load up and make it work better. Or reverse engineering to recompile into a ROM from scratch. If so, you are in for a shock. You do know that Samsung is part of OpenHandsetAlliance right? And supposed to be "open" even with apache license. Otherwise they just a corporate leach and have just fooled people to buying their product for thinking they'd be open by being member of the alliance.
This poll suggest at least 60% are unhappy with Samsung, 2 years from now, the tune might be different about Samsung product. 60% of 10M is alot. Even 10% of that is still alot. I see at least 2 Millions not coming back. Android will be everywhere. Samsung will not be the only phone maker having Android in there 2.2 or 2.3..whatever. We won't be tied down to just haveing Samsung to choose anymore by next 2 years. Without much interest in it, there won't be that many developers to make ROM for you.
The lesson I get from this is I might not buy another OEM again and steer away from Samsung. I rather buy Google phone like Nexus 1 or S so I can get update on time. I heard others said Samsung product break down fast and support was terrible since the 80s. I should have listen to them.
Came from a friend on another forum:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
The person who sent the email responded asking why other people were getting vague emails that gave no certain answer on the future of the 3vos bootloader.
This is the return reply:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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I don't see any evidence that their definition of soon matches with my definition of soon...it is a relative term, after all.
I'm going err on the side of caution, unfortunately. They have 2 weeks.
Regardless of time frame, we are all at the mercy of HTC sadly enough
The date on that link is June 17.
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stop with these threads i dont see any new information here.
if its that big of a deal return the phone so the people who are gonna keep it dont have to see these dumb threads.
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The date on that link is June 17.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I would imagine it has more to do with appeasing partners (read: Sprint) than it has to do with technical hurdles...though I'm sure there is still a redundantly redundant amount of testing involved. Most of it is probably policy and politics than anything else.
omgtheybetterfixitinthenexttwelvesecondsorimsogoingtoreturnthisphonegoddamn
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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i agree make it so the person knows what they are doing
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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If teamwin does it great. However I would be very surprised if there weren't strings attached to HTC's solution and no thanks to that. If the SGS2 would be announced for a pre-September release date the 3D is going back.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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he probably knows that he was just saying it might be better if they did it that way.
Irishman42 said:
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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Well, in if that happens in 2 months from now you and the 3 remaining devs will have a blast I'm sure. This technology moves way too fast for delays like this. The first 30 days is a given, return period, time to root, etc...but this time we are up against heavy duty security for heavy duty securities sake.
While I do exaggerate a bit my point remains. We don't have time to wait as much as you think we do...developers want to develop, and when they put a commitment into a device, well, not being able to develop a god damned thing for that device is kinda a turn off. Few of our best ROM developers are also the low-level guys doing the heavy lifting and intense probing and testing required to attain root/s-off...there is an overlap, yes, but most of these guys just want to make a rom or work on a kernel, and that is to say nothing of the theme guys who operate as creative talent before technical talent...
This is an elaborate ecosystem of skills and talents here. If you happened to be one of us lucky ones in the EVO4G community from the beginning you should know that it was a bunch of coincidence and a pre-release root (and the happenstance of Sprint getting its first kickass superphone--now a regular event)...so don't expect that magic to sit around waiting for this phone to be opened up.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but that there were a lot of factors that went into it happening last time--just having a decent phone and a forum weren't what made it happen.
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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It's a very capable phone, I agree. But it has far more potential than it has capability...and I didn't buy this phone to only be as capable as the phone it was replacing (a heavily modded EVO4G) with the only difference that I can actually see is a resolution difference.
Sure, we knew it would come locked. I knew I'd have this decision to make. It's a very capable phone. But it is also capable of so much more...that's what I want out of it. My 4G was doing everything at least as fast and with at least as good battery life with far more flexibility...
...the only reason I am so impatient is for the reason I posted above. If it doesn't happen relatively quickly the spark will fade rapidly. I feel very comfortable in the 30-day window. But as the 30 day window closes I am not going to be the only one who sizes up this situation and has to make a decision...more important than me and you and all of the other users there are the developers. The ones who provide the value-adding goodies that we love so much...without them we just have a phone like a million other phones, excuse me, that takes 3D pictures and/or Video...the only differentiating feature really....sure, HTC didn't sell a device that was intended to do the things I want to do with it--but it could...until they made it so it couldn't specifically...artificially...
You might not get it...if that's the case, congrats, this is the phone for you. No regrets. Rock on. But for me and what I would imagine are the majority of others here that is a deal breaker.....
@daneurysm: very, very well stated. I'm with you 100%
my email exchanges...
I have purchased your mogul,evo,and now evo3d. I would like to say that I love the evo3d, its an amazing device. But, if the bootloader isnt unlocked or rooted by the time my 30 days is up, I will be returning it. I feel as though I own the device, and used my hard earned money to buy it, and like a computer I should have access to it. I understand the consumer doesn't matter at all in todays corporate run world, but this is my stance, as is many others. I bought it, I own it, it is no longer yours or sprints as I'm not leasing it, I own it, its mine. Thanks, maybe.
their reply.
I certainly understand that you're looking for the bootloader of the EVO 3D to be unlocked. This is indeed something that we're working on, true to our word. We don't have a date set yet for when the update to do so will be available, but as this is a high priority situation when there is news on the subject it will be posted to our social media outlets, like our Facebook and our Twitter just as the previous announcement was. I hope that it is soon.
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First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
My $.02 with $.05 extra.
No disrespect, but why did you just spend so much time nay saying something that others clearly enjoy doing (developers) and using (users, obviously). You might look back at this tomorrow and wonder...
Part of the fun is getting a dead technology to work better than others think it possibly can (HTC, Verizon, you)
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Because these developers have been able to take "dead technology" and get it running faster than the newest phone out there. My Eris currently out runs my wifes TB and also runs the newest software that currently isn't available to her phone without root, so I give much respect to the devs for what they can do.
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First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use itu each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
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Because its fun proving big red and HTC wrong and people still have this phone..y should they be left behind ...just like the hero ,g1 , also are still chugging along ..
And also...I have nothing else to do.. I'm disabled
No disrespect, Btw, you wont beleive, This phone is just launched in india,
http://www.mtsindia.in/smartphone/products.htm
There are lots of people still using G1, hero, droid eris technology.
now, for doing into deep in any technology, we need to learn some dead technology, we need to learn basics for being high.
We still learn C language, do you thing people use software developed in turbo 'C'.
Second thing is FUN, You might waste time in playing golf, watching porn playing PSP games etc etc.
Developer here like there time to be wasted in porting rom. sorry no disrespect.
If someone donate developers a high End phone then they might waste their time in alive technology.
Even though they have highend phone they still love to port for droid eris. Its all fun, way of thinking.
please dont take me wrong in any way, please.
You are right in some point, I agree with you. But unless and untill i didnt get any highend phone, I have to stick with it. I am a learner, before jumping to sensation. let me wash my hands to droid eris
Thanks to developer like, erasmux, tazz, macrodroid, workshed and manymore, bcoz of them we really get some good rom here. Its there work only for fun. (no $$$$)
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest phone out there.
Why is anyone dedicated to anything? In the end the solar system will be swallowed up by the sun.
Because They Can
Im one of those that cant afford one of the newer phones and was just given this phone a couple months ago. If it wasnt for these great developers my experience with this phone would be much less enjoyable.
So to all the Devs in this forum I thank you for all your hard work and please keep up the good work.
Why do people enjoy solving puzzles? It is fun and rewarding. There is always room to make these devices better than they were when we bought them.
The Eris is still my only phone and some people are in the same situation. I am extremely grateful for the devs' work. There was a time when people said that the Eris would NEVER be able to handle Gingerbread. On the contrary, it runs gingerbread better than any other version of Android. It is amazing that this phone keeps becoming more and more powerful. These devs make our phones feel future proof.
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First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
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My guess would be... the same reason you wasted your time starting this thread.... they enjoy it.
My next thought would be this... If you don't get/can't comprehend why the devs are still making roms for the Eris... unroot your Eris, use it stock and don't use any of the ROMs and you won't have to worry about it
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Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest phone out there.
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^THIS^ is why I am thankful for all the Devs that work on this "old obsolete" Eris!
Or maybe not even that. I'm still under contract until April with my Eris. I'm not the primary on this account, so I have to wait my 2 years in order to get a discount.
Plus many enjoy the challenge of porting the OS to older hardware.
The CM team still maintains support for the original production Android phone, the G1.
Since the G1 and Eris are still very similar in performance and specs having them tweak CM to run decently on the G1 helps the Eris.
I think other than the Nexus 1, all the phones with the trackball are pretty much the same performance-wise. All have a ~500 Mhz Arm V6 CPU.
CondemnedSoul said:
My guess would be... the same reason you wasted your time starting this thread.... they enjoy it.
My next thought would be this... If you don't get/can't comprehend why the devs are still making roms for the Eris... unroot your Eris, use it stock and don't use any of the ROMs and you won't have to worry about it
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Well said...
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I can honestly say the eris is the phone I have the longest in all my years owning a cell phone. Yeah there are new and flashy phones that always come out but since rooting and loading zach's pure vanilla rom on it i haven't looked back. My contract is up in october and I have no plans on upgrading before then and maybe even after that. The eris dev's are excellent and they have really extended the life of the eris well past its scheduled funeral.
old is gold.
Funny...I do actually get this same question from some of the folks I know who have jumped and continue to jump on the latest and greatest that comes out. I used to be that way too. Then I explain to them the way they do in those Visa commercials....
Cost of donating to the developers for their hard work $ a few bucks here and there...(this is the most important one! )
Cost of upgrading to the latest and greatest phone $0 dollars
Cost of watching the phone guy at Best Buy mobile look at my phone and say "wow...your running that? ....on that phone????"........ $$$ PRICELESS
It's really very simple. People who stay with the Eris stay because either they like it just fine or can't afford to switch. Therefore, the efforts of devs which improve their experience are valiant and well worth. If you're unhappy with the Eris and can afford to switch go ahead and do so....and enjoy.
That being said, I see no useful or valid point in keeping this thread alive and personally wouldn't mind seeing it locked/deleted.
why they do it
NPH- said:
First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
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Firstly,
I'd suggest the Eris doesn't have a "dead technology" just that there have been dramatic improvements in the hardware and hardware costs that are available to cellphone manufacturers of today compared to 2 years ago.
secondly,
for a cellphone manufacturer you get the most bang for your buck putting your software and hardware design engineers on the next best thing, rather than keeping an older model competitive... where would you put your money? continuing to optimize software for an old model (that you already got paid for) for better performance,or make the next phone really appealing to the consumer. It's the world of "planned obsolescence", and it keeps us buying newer phones from the manufacturers. The market's so huge, with so much competition that the development pace is very high.
on the Developers,
I'd suggest most of these guys seem have a passion for coding, so I'd guess making cleaner, more fully optimized code is the driver for them, the challenge of making a bit of old hardware competitive with the newer stuff seems like a complex puzzle, that they like solving... we just so happen to benefit from their passion.
You'll notice most of them don't ask for any type of payment, for what could be weeks and months of effort (in their free time), that's why it's nice to support a dev that's made something that saves you time or get a lot of use out of...
Keep up the good work everyone, I sincerely appreciate all the hard work!!!
First and foremost, and I post this reply to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
1) people still under contract
2) people unwilling/unable to purchase a newer phone
3) the phone is still very powerful.
4) most aren't yuppies that feel the need to upgrade everytime a company releases their sandbagged technology.
5) the foundation for learning how to develop rom's is here. learn here while the learning is good
truth be told, your post and this thread didn't need to be created at all. why do some people drive honda's and not just throw them away for a lexus? must be nice to have grown up with a silver spoon in ones mouth and have a view of the world that is disposable.
NPH- said:
First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
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Because it's fun to see how far we can push these phones beyond their stated limits
Also for some devs i would gather it's experience too. Experience that could get them jobs, maybe even with the company that builds the phones you're deving on. Best way to learn something is to jump in and do it.
These phones are fairly cheap now and it seems it's one that had a lot of potential. I think we can all agree that HTC really didn't optimize it to it's fullest.
OK, so I have never felt the need to make a pointless thread till now...
I was out at the bar tonight, surrounded by iPhone people....going on and on about how they had one problem or another with whatever random android they had and how suddenly their iPhone solved everything.... And they were saying "oh, our phone is so much faster than yours"
So i made them all download linpack and blew each of them away by double...
Perhaps it doesn't mean much, but it shut them up
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Haha!
I hate it tho how trying to get an i phone user to understand something simple like a widget. I explain at least we get home screens they dont understand coz all they get is an application drawer!
I actually talked a female colleague around to getting an android phone like mine (s2) she was set to get an iphone but she doesn't regret it one bit! Plus out of 15 ppl in our company 3 of us have android- one desire and 2 s2's! The rest are apple fan boys! Lol
Android all the way!!
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iPhone = ordinary brainless user
Android = power user which has to use his brains
Why so many iPhones?
Apple is the king of product placement.
Watch any movie, soap etc. Apples apples apples rotten apples everywhere.
Yay, a grid of icons on top of icons! The solution to all of life's mobile phone problems. Oh, and a robotic sounding woman you can have "conversations" with.
The reason why Apple is so successful is because the notion of "choice" is too much for the average person to handle. I understand the lack of common sense and willingness to do a little legwork when purchasing things that most of society has, but having ONE phone and ONE computer is preferable to anyone in the entertainment business than shuffling through the hundreds of Android phones. Especially since they're catering to the society I wrote about. They will know what an iPhone is. They will not know what __insert_stuipd_android_device_name_OEMs_who_don't_understand_how_the_world_works_come_up_with is.
jr866gooner said:
Haha!
I hate it tho how trying to get an i phone user to understand something simple like a widget. I explain at least we get home screens they dont understand coz all they get is an application drawer!
I actually talked a female colleague around to getting an android phone like mine (s2) she was set to get an iphone but she doesn't regret it one bit! Plus out of 15 ppl in our company 3 of us have android- one desire and 2 s2's! The rest are apple fan boys! Lol
Android all the way!!
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Better to have Iphones than the stupid symbian Nokia phones............
My town is surrounded by Nokia phones and some chinese/indian crap......
Though the problem is that here a basic phone without camera and some basic features costs at 2000-3000 rupees (40$-60$) while the evo 3d was around 49$(contract) in USA and is around 700$ (without contract) in india , I would have purchased so many phones at this cost if that contract thingy would have been available here...
mnomaanw said:
Better to have Iphones than the stupid symbian Nokia phones............
My town is surrounded by Nokia phones and some chinese/indian crap......
Though the problem is that here a basic phone without camera and some basic features costs at 2000-3000 rupees (40$-60$) while the evo 3d was around 49$(contract) in USA and is around 700$ (without contract) in india , I would have purchased so many phones at this cost if that contract thingy would have been available here...
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No you wouldn't because they are ,like you said, contracts . That means you can only get a device at that price once every two years once the contract ends.
The reason so many more people appear to have iphones is Apple advertises everywhere. People want a brand name they can trust and they all love their ipods for music, so why not get an iPhone. Then the old yoga moms who bought it rave about their new smartphone to all their clueless friends, who tell even more people, until apple phones are owned by every clueless person in the US. Then Apple decides it's time to implement project X, a top secret project that uses siri to take over its users like a parasite and TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! Well sort of anyway...
Yeah, idk, I just enjoyed it because they all had to admit my 3d blew their iPhone away... And you guys are right, it is brainless... Have you ever seen two iPhones that look different? Nope, they are all set up to be huge app drawers... Idk, I like having a bookmark and a calendar widget.... I like being able to make it my own and not just follow suit....
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sms2000 said:
iPhone = ordinary brainless user
Android = power user which has to use his brains
Why so many iPhones?
Apple is the king of product placement.
Watch any movie, soap etc. Apples apples apples rotten apples everywhere.
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How incredibly humble of you
Apple has carved an image for itself, and it does it's job very well, and people from all walks of life has iPhones, from trashy people, to incredible smart. Some people just don't care about customisation and are more interested in a complete solution with little fuss. This does not make them brainless.
the main reason i keep seeing these lil girls get iphone is because its a status symbol , ppl think if you have an iphone ur cool or going to get more *****, that phone is plain out boring when its up against a high end android.
Scougar said:
How incredibly humble of you
Apple has carved an image for itself, and it does it's job very well, and people from all walks of life has iPhones, from trashy people, to incredible smart. Some people just don't care about customisation and are more interested in a complete solution with little fuss. This does not make them brainless.
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How DARE you display objectivity, blasphemer! The iPhone is for the feeble minded and Android for the intellectual elite.
I think people chose iphone forbthe same reason i dont root my phone. Not everyone has hours a day to waste altering these phones or can afford for something to stop working. People say rooting your phone makes it better and faster. How much faster can it get seriously? I mean my epic touch is fully stock with 1000 songs and plenty of pics and videos and sometimes it seems like it selects what i want before i even swipe it. Every other thread on xda seems to ke oh i flashed this rom and my camera stopped working my wifi stopped working my voicemail stopped working im not getting my notifications stuck on htc screen or whatever else can go wrong. Im only 26 but i have a gf and a 1 year old son. Some people cant afford to have dumb **** like that go wrong. I need everything on my phone working all the time. Im not worried about the latest theme and if i was that worried about ics id go by a galaxy nexus.
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I think people chose iphone forbthe same reason i dont root my phone. Not everyone has hours a day to waste altering these phones or can afford for something to stop working. People say rooting your phone makes it better and faster. How much faster can it get seriously? I mean my epic touch is fully stock with 1000 songs and plenty of pics and videos and sometimes it seems like it selects what i want before i even swipe it. Every other thread on xda seems to ke oh i flashed this rom and my camera stopped working my wifi stopped working my voicemail stopped working im not getting my notifications stuck on htc screen or whatever else can go wrong. Im only 26 but i have a gf and a 1 year old son. Some people cant afford to have dumb **** like that go wrong. I need everything on my phone working all the time. Im not worried about the latest theme and if i was that worried about ics id go by a galaxy nexus.
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Cool story? Trust me depending in the Roms the phone actually shows significant performance over the stock . You don't actually spend hours a day switching. Or whatever. Just download follow simple steps and go.
Most times the rom is perfectly working for users. Just some people don't read the change logs on what works or not.
And I have-not seen that many oh my wifi or whatever is not working threads.
Unless you take advantage of rooting you probably arnt the one to talk about these customization steps, goes for the iPhone users alike.
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Alright so after reading this thread which has a slight undertone of hate both ways, here is what I've gathered....
iPhone: For people who want things done for them... They don't want to worry about every detail (big or small) of their phone, don't mind little customization, and follow a 'trend' (if you will). At the same time, everything is easier to use, because it is less complicated and everything is right there. The phone that is already 'set-up'.
Exclude the whole concept of Jailbreaking your iPhone. If you jailbreak it, you are basically making it an Android anyways -_-. Making it Open-source so you can add MODs from Cydia to it for a little more customization and control. Sounds like browsing XDA looking for new things for your phone, hm.
Android: Contrary to the iPhone... For people who want to take control of their phone. In every aspect. Having a phone that really reflects you and shows your personality. Something you can tinker with for endless hours ALWAYS finding something new. You don't mind the 'kinks' of rooting and ROMs, because you like the need to fiddle with your phone. All around, you're more alert to everything going on in that phone of yours. The parts waiting to be perfectly put together.
Don't get me wrong. Android is fully functional. What I meant by the part thing is; everything is ready to go, but it needs a little extra to get it how you want it.
Which one is better....? I personally like Android because of all the things there are to, and the very thin boundaries (if there are any) to what you can't do. However the iPhone offers a very refined experience that isn't anything to scuff at. I do not find the iPhone faster either. There are plenty of tests to show otherwise. It wouldn't be fair to compare a low-end Android so assume I'm talking about the SGS2, Galaxy Nexus, etc. And if there is any difference in visual speed (which isn't totally reliable) it is honestly a hundredth of a second or less. Processor wise Android destroys iOS. Visual smoothness iOS at times over throws Android. Overall they're both good platforms (and I have used both for over 6 months).
Now if more iPhone users could realize that Android is just as good as iOS. Then we could finally get them to shut-up about what their pre-personalized phones can do.
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I'd never buy an iPhone, or Apple product, for that matter. That said, had I been one of those people who just lost the linpack challenge, I would promptly have asked you to open your web browser, or home screen and take the lag challenge, to which you would have failed miserably.
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I'd never buy an iPhone, or Apple product, for that matter. That said, had I been one of those people who just lost the linpack challenge, I would promptly have asked you to open your web browser, or home screen and take the lag challenge, to which you would have failed miserably.
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Or if you were using the 3Vo, try and take a picture in the dimly lit room
It's whatever, I just wanted to shut them up...
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