slow data speeds with new official Sprint rom. - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I'm torn on what to do now. Initially I did the Sprint upgrade to the new rom and then flashed DCD 3.0 kitchen. was having lots of stability issues and slow data speeds(half of what I had with 3.27 radio). To isolate the problem I went back to the new stock Sprint rom. More stable now but slow data speeds on average again of half what I had before. Before with 1 bar I got 700k ish down now I get about 350. Anybody been able to solve this? faster gps lock is nice(suspect it's now using cell tower in combination more efficiently since I get even initial lock deep inside buildings) but don't think that will offset slower data speeds. Think it is same PRL too. 60711 I think. thanks for any help on this.

shadowreader said:
I'm torn on what to do now. Initially I did the Sprint upgrade to the new rom and then flashed DCD 3.0 kitchen. was having lots of stability issues and slow data speeds(half of what I had with 3.27 radio). To isolate the problem I went back to the new stock Sprint rom. More stable now but slow data speeds on average again of half what I had before. Before with 1 bar I got 700k ish down now I get about 350. Anybody been able to solve this? faster gps lock is nice(suspect it's now using cell tower in combination more efficiently since I get even initial lock deep inside buildings) but don't think that will offset slower data speeds. Think it is same PRL too. 60711 I think. thanks for any help on this.
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Did you turn on rev A.? I think sprint forgot that one little detail. I know some...myself included...had to do it manually.

how did you do it manually? I have my msl and everything just don't know where that setting is. thx.

I JUST read another thread over at pdaphone home that said on PPCGeeks they recommend that you leave the rev A setting as "Disable"...since its supposed to already be on. People have reported big jumps in speed when it is set to Disable.
To check: ##778# > if you dont have your MSL then just view it > select data parameters...I think.

tried it both enabled and disabled after soft reset. not much difference. still about half of what I used to get. may go back to 2.3.2 and 3.27 radio as I didn't have many problems with that other than slow gps lock. Would be great to have best of both worlds though

The one thing that helped me most was changing my DNS to OpenDNS.
Also; Speedtest sites seem to be TOO FAST for the browser to handle the data, so to do a reliable test try tethering the phone or use wmwifirouter. In my case my phone usually says it's getting around 350, but when I tether it actually turns out to be between 1000 and 1800.
FWIW; I use the dsl reports speed test to check the speed.
You could of course also make yourself a nice 10Mb file and test the speed manually.
Changing the Rev.A setting does NOT make a difference, if anything it makes it slower. Leave it as it is.

I am on Sprint. I am using wmwifirouter v.91 and using speakeasy's speedtest which consistently used to give me 800-2000K(sometimes over 2meg), With new radio struggling to reach 500K. By opendns do you mean 4.2.2.2? haven't tried that. suspect it would make a difference for latency/lookup speed but not so much for data throughput right?

To compare, we should all use the same test and browser. So use PIE for real world results (Opera uses a proxy) and I've found the www.mobilespeedtest.com has a better test than DSLReports.
Anybody have an even better alternative besides tethering?

shadowreader said:
I am on Sprint. I am using wmwifirouter v.91 and using speakeasy's speedtest which consistently used to give me 800-2000K(sometimes over 2meg), With new radio struggling to reach 500K. By opendns do you mean 4.2.2.2? haven't tried that. suspect it would make a difference for latency/lookup speed but not so much for data throughput right?
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4.2.2.2 is a Verizon DNS server. OpenDNS is different. See opendns.com

Geckotek said:
To compare, we should all use the same test and browser. So use PIE for real world results (Opera uses a proxy) and I've found the www.mobilespeedtest.com has a better test than DSLReports.
Anybody have an even better alternative besides tethering?
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I have to disagree about the accuracy of each site... I have a full T1 at my disposal, and mobilespeedtest.com churned out the following:
Your current bandwidth reading is:
645.00kbps
www.dslreports.com/mspeed, however, returned:
1358 kbit/sec
I would go with dslreports. ymmv

Foetus said:
I have to disagree about the accuracy of each site... I have a full T1 at my disposal, and mobilespeedtest.com churned out the following:
Your current bandwidth reading is:
645.00kbps
www.dslreports.com/mspeed, however, returned:
1358 kbit/sec
I would go with dslreports. ymmv
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DSL reports only tests 1 file size at a time and the smaller files always fail. We need to find a better option.
Edit: I've got a 6MB connection, DSL reports first said it was 1.9MB but then failed on 3 subsequent tries (too fast).
Mobilespeedtest gave me 277.40kbps first try 749.30kbps second.
So you're right.

Geckotek said:
DSL reports only tests 1 file size at a time and the smaller files always fail. We need to find a better option.
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Personally, I tether my laptop to my phone and use www.speedtest.net

Foetus said:
Personally, I tether my laptop to my phone and use www.speedtest.net
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To many factors added into that mix to affect the test. I want a speedtest directly from the phone.

Foetus said:
I have to disagree about the accuracy of each site... I have a full T1 at my disposal, and mobilespeedtest.com churned out the following:
Your current bandwidth reading is:
645.00kbps
www.dslreports.com/mspeed, however, returned:
1358 kbit/sec
I would go with dslreports. ymmv
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I second that.
I tried mobilespeedtest.com yesterday while connected to a 6meg line...speed was rediculously low didnt break 500k. Tried speakeasy.net...I got 5.9 meg.

Just got 225kbps on dslreports 1meg file and 559kbps on mobilespeedtest with 3.35 radio and stock new Sprint rom on sprint network in rev A area 2 bars(not that great of signal but used to get double this speed at same location with 3.27 Radio)

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Radio 3.35 Speed Poll

What are your experiences with the new Radio?
For consistency, please use the following test method.
While tethering your phone to your PC, use the speedtest located here: www.speedtest.net
Please post a graphic of your results as Maccaberry has below.
Please only post if you are in a Rev A area.
Note about testing speed...
Just to make it clear, you cannot test the speed of the broadband connection accurately using the phone and Pocket IE. It will not return the correct results!
The reason for this is that the processor needs to perform double-duty in order to load a page in Pocket IE; this means it processes the incoming data and also has to render the page. While the page is rendering, the data has to wait, and vice-versa.
The correct way to accurately test the speed of the data connection is by tethering the phone to your computer and then perform a speed test, through someone like speedtest.net or something like that. This is because the phone only collects the incoming data and then ports it to the USB for your computer to render in the browser.
My results confirm this:
Download Speed using the new ROM:
Pocket IE: ~950Kbps
Tethered: 1550Kbps
The difference is due to the processor not being able to stream all of the data at the maximum speed AND render the page all at the same time.
Hope this helps!
Geckotek,
I agree that the only way to accurately test is via tethered pc. PIE has never given anything like a real number for me.
www.speedtest.net seems to be the best and the one that most posters use as their reference.
Now if you could amend your instructions to use this method we would be onto something.
EDIT: with old radio and rom I get 1400 k DOWN and 120K UP as a point of reference. EV-DO Rev0
From the VZW network side
sitting at the console, from 3.27 to 3.55.04 RNC says session is REV-A for both, BER is better for new resulting in more reliable session, speed is a little better due to the BER (a timer was tweaked in the leaked radio) S/N ratio a tad better with older ROM but if you are in a good signal area then youe EVDO stays up better because the noise ref figure for fallback is set higher, and EVDO speed drops off faster with lower signal, new radio is wayyyyyyyyy better trust me as I see it's impact on the system.
I get about 440Kbps d/l and 104Kbps u/l tehered to my laptop. Seems strange that I can't get better numbers than that with 5 bars sitting in the center of Houston, TX. Certainly we have Rev. A here...
Very good point about the processor guys. I'll make the changes.
I like www.speakeasy.net/speedtest. For my posted results (which are > 1Mbps download, >300kbps upload), I used WMWiFiRouter to tether to my laptop and ran the test out of Firefox 3.0b4 running on said laptop. I believe this should be valid.
Before I changed the ##778# setting for Rev. A to enabled:
After I changed Rev. A to enabled:
Do you see something wrong with this picture? I don't think that setting does what some think it does.
whatsit said:
Before I changed the ##778# setting for Rev. A to enabled:
After I changed Rev. A to enabled:
Do you see something wrong with this picture? I don't think that setting does what some think it does.
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Yeah, that's been discussed. The entry is to "Disable" Rev A. So "Enabling" the entry would in theory "Disable" Rev A. So the general concensus is to leave it alone.
Dealing with MS registry entries you find this type of logic a lot.
Speed Map
I'm sure most people know about this, but I'll put it here for posterity's sake.
EVDO Maps
Latest version of flash 7 required
OK - slightly off topic - sorry - but when I go to speedtest.net it syas I need at least flash player 7.0 or higher. I installed the flash player bundle and thought that would do it. no dice - anyone have an idea what I'm missing?
Flashplayer on your laptop.
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OK - slightly off topic - sorry - but when I go to speedtest.net it syas I need at least flash player 7.0 or higher. I installed the flash player bundle and thought that would do it. no dice - anyone have an idea what I'm missing?
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You are not off topic. In my reference to www.speedtest.net I specifically referred to tethering to the laptop because of the issues with running speed tests on the ppc itself.
Yet another reason that they should change the name from PIE to POS.
While using wmwifirouter
used two different sites
Last Result:
Download Speed: 2235 kbps (279.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 618 kbps (77.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

			
				
There is no point in doing this at all. Would you do a speed test on a WiFi access point when you have no idea what other people using the same access point are doing? That's exactly what you're doing with EVDO. You could be sharing bandwidth with 50 other people.
VZW here in houston area
Here is my test I did this morning...
Speakeasy.net/speedtest
2324kbps Down
316kbps Up

			
				
Sprint PCS Houston
Rev. A enabled ("Disable" shown in epst)
Rev. A disabled ("Enable" shown in epst)
I have a minimum of 4 bars where I am, jumping to 6 at periods. Any clue why I can't break the 500kbps barrier?

RevA enabled?

I have DCDs, 3.2.5 rom on my Titan. Everythings fine, only question is do I really have RevA enabled? I do no see it listed under data parameters in ESPT.
Only see Packet Dial String line item. nothing else....
that's a question i wouldn't even ask, i trust DCD is a genius and wouldn't forget such an important detail in any of his fine quality roms
Yes, he is. I
Yes he is, i was not taking a negative posture, just a curious one. My download testings are around 600-700 kbps. then i read threads regarding enabling and or disabling rev-a in espt. Also i wondered if windows mobile produces a special icon on my home screen when in evdo rev-a. I am semi novice and am only seeing if im missing something. I also read, as of July 31st, all Verizon markets are 100% Rev-A, so maybe i am connected at those possible data rates and don't know it.
Use your phone and goto mobilespeedtest.com, run the test and see what it says.....
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Use your phone and goto mobilespeedtest.com, run the test and see what it says.....
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I've decided that that is a poor way to gauge Rev A speeds
When I had the latest DCD rom installed, I used those mobile tests to test Rev A and in my area consistently got speeds in excess of 600kbps.
Now I have the stock ROM and still, at times, get speeds in excess of 600kbps
So unless you are telling me the stock rom has RevA enabled but "they" are keeping that quiet, I wouldnt trust those mobile speed sites to be accurate reflections of whether you have RevA or not
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Use your phone and goto mobilespeedtest.com, run the test and see what it says.....
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just ran speedtests there and get a constant 1.37mbps-1.48mbps average
updated to newest dcd rom
Its the upload speed which will tell you if you are in a rev.A area or market. Over ~115 kbps upload is rev.a. Otherwise you are trying to look at cell tower traffic limitations. I get ~800k at noon and almost 2200k at midnight, but upload speeds stay around 300k regardles of time. thats out of the theoretical limit of rev.0
you wont see revA listed in the data parameters until VZ releases their update containing RevA. until then, its not official.
hmmm i was getting only 376Kbps when it was set to disable and now i get 1.68Mbps when its set to enable...
3.42.50radio
dcd 3.2.5 rom
rev A speeds
what do you enable to get the revA speeds?
I am on the 3.2.3 rom and the .3 radio.
I just ran "mobilespeedtest" and got 645.3 kps.
What am I doing wrong?
i just tried this myself..
go into settins/connections/.. click on connections.. manage existing connections.. select data network (#777).. click edit.. click next.. click next again..
under username: Yourphone#@vzw3g.com
pasword: vzw
click finish...
my download speed from mobilespeedtest.com was 600Kbps..
now its 1.4Mbps
hopw this helps
what the heck?
When I run mobilespeedtest, it consistently shows that my current bandwidth reading is between 165 and 200 Mbps. It says I can download at 20-25 MB/sec from their site.
I don't believe these numbers. What is wrong?
ryano2121 said:
When I run mobilespeedtest, it consistently shows that my current bandwidth reading is between 165 and 200 Mbps. It says I can download at 20-25 MB/sec from their site.
I don't believe these numbers. What is wrong?
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I think their numbers are a bit high, I use http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed and get about half but I also finally turned off active sync so it has free reign on the connection.
jambrose said:
I think their numbers are a bit high, I use http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed and get about half but I also finally turned off active sync so it has free reign on the connection.
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There also seems to be a huge difference between the speeds using Opera Mini and PIE using www.mobilespeedtest.com. So which are we to believe is the correct speed?
jambrose said:
There also seems to be a huge difference between the speeds using Opera Mini and PIE using www.mobilespeedtest.com. So which are we to believe is the correct speed?
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The problem is that some of those speeds you are getting are based on the processing time of the browser and not the true connection speed.
The best test to run is strictly a "text only" type of test as that does not require a lot of browser processing power to display the information. That will give you a more accurate reflection of the actual connection speed. Run an image test to see what your actual browsing speed is going to be.
However, "true connection speed" is kind of subjective since some people count only the actual connection speed, while others count the browser processing speed since that is what it also takes to display images.
Another problem is that the speeds displayed are typically those when connecting to the sites servers and dont accurately reflect typical internet browsing. Hence, its a good idea to run a few tests from a few different sites and then take an average to find your speed.
mobilespeedtest.com seems to give some consistent speeds for me:
using Pocket IE
732 kps
928 kps
838 kps
932 kps
using Opera Mini
2.5 Mps
2.1 Mps
1.5 Mps
dslreports = 905kbit/sec for the 1MB file.
mobilespeedtest = 932.10kbps
I am seeing similar results as Nitro - around 930kbps
Never use Opera Mini to test speed. When you load a page in Opera Mini, the page is actually rendered on their servers first, then it is relayed to your phone. That's what makes it load so fast.
When you run a speed test with Opera Mini, you're not seeing your actual throughput.
What you see in PIE is your actual throughput.

4G speeds on New RUU 2.01.605.0 GB Leak

I have flashed the new Radio that JCase posted for the GB RUU. Flash 3 different roms based off this including JCASE stock. But on all of them i am only getting a Download speed of 3mbs instead of my normal 18MB+...
Wiped/Factory Reset/Wiped Cache/Wipe Dalvik multiple times before flashing and still not work, even flashed the radio over just incase, but still seems throttle.
Is everyone seeing this? Is there a throttle in place on this ROM?
Any help would be appreciated.
computerguydd said:
I have flashed the new Radio that JCase posted for the GB RUU. Flash 3 different roms based off this including JCASE stock. But on all of them i am only getting a Download speed of 3mbs instead of my normal 18MB+...
Wiped/Factory Reset/Wiped Cache/Wipe Dalvik multiple times before flashing and still not work, even flashed the radio over just incase, but still seems throttle.
Is everyone seeing this? Is there a throttle in place on this ROM?
Any help would be appreciated.
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I think pretty much everyone is seeing this, its not you!
What are you using to test your speeds? The speedtest app will report around 3MB but the speakeasy website shows I'm getting 12MB down/2MB up.
I think the app isn't working well with the new O/S.
I think you should post in the correct section.
Speedtest DOES NOT EQUATE to real performance. It's a test.
Im getting 15-18 down on speakeasy
Have you tested speeds by going to speedtest.net on your phone's browser and doing it? That's usually more accurate.
My market apps are installing at the typical LTE speed as well. They are flying down the pipeline. Even ROM downloads on links from Tapatalk are typical 10-11 MB down LTE rates.
Again I think it's an app thing with the speedtest app.
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I think you should post in the correct section.
Speedtest DOES NOT EQUATE to real performance. It's a test.
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Sorry. wasnt sure on what section since this relates to the Roms here.
You are correct speedtest is just a test and does not show the real performance just like quadrant doesnt.
I didnt run speedtest until i noticed how long it was taking to download an app which normally it speeds through it Lightening Fast...
But i did run the speadeasy.net and got 18up/5down.
Thanks, Just didnt see anyone else make a comment or post about this any other threads.
I'm having the same issues. There is definitely a difference. I noticed my data alot running slower before I ever tested it.
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I didn't even think to test my 4g speeds - I was too excited about how fast the new ginger-sense roms are running in terms of performance.
I just ran speak easy - I am in Philadelphia and have full 4g most of the time
12.95 down - 4.95 up.
4G speeds are still there. Speedtest app isn't reporting correctly.
How is everyone's battery life doing?
Sorry, but the basic debloat only pulls about 3 megs where I would normally pull 20-28. Doesn't matter where/how I test it. Website, app, and tethered to test on my computer all report 2 to 3 megs.
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Try speakeasy.net/speedtest in the browser. I just pulled over 25 down and 8 up on it. The speedtest app just isn't giving accurate results.
speak easy is about the same, but performance is down for me. Market apps are a lot slower and i wasnt able to stream the nba game very well... so real time performance of LTE on the leaked GB radio is def slower for me flashed back to MR1 and streaming is good im sure in a week or 3 there will be a newer leaked GB radio tho. All these "issues" should be expected for new tech like LTE so just be happy with all these early leaks! Most phones go months waiting for what we have gotten in weeks! We def have some extra love from vzw and htc and ours devs!!! (IMO)
Downloads from dropbox and the browser max out at about 400 K which is about 3 Mbit. I noticed this before ever running the speed test app. I am basing my experiences on real world usage not just speed tests. My 4g is absolutely limited to approximately 3Mbit on this radio. As reported by others this is also noticeable in market downloads and in streaming video performance.
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I am also noticing Pandora is being painfully slow. It takes a long time for it to load the next song. Before it would be only a few moments between songs.
arcanexvi said:
Sorry, but the basic debloat only pulls about 3 megs where I would normally pull 20-28. Doesn't matter where/how I test it. Website, app, and tethered to test on my computer all report 2 to 3 megs.
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Also if you look at the provider speedtest and speakeasy both use OOKLA as the backbone broadband provider so they should produce the same results. If they don't then it is they app. Try doing the test from the Speakeasy website from your phone then from the Speedtest website from your phone. They should both be the same.

Verizon data throttling the Thunderbolt?

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed in the Thunderbolt forums but I did a search and could only find posts in other phone specific forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943171
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937925&highlight=throttle
I have LTE turned on in my area and when I use my wireless tether for root users I get awesome speeds between 2-3MBps but after about 150-200MB downloaded those speeds immediately drop off to just 10-20k or so. Now I rarely go over the 5GB soft cap and even when I do it's only by a few hundred MBs. Is there some sort of throttling going on and any way to stop it?
It has been discussed actually (and with that application), but anyways, at least you tried
Assuming your speeds are bad due to one application isnt exactly a very good test (more so since you did not say what version of the application you are running since that could matter). If you want to be certain, try internet connection mode via usb and download a test file from a location around you, such as from one of these data centers http://www.linode.com/speedtest/ and watch the speed. Doing that, you can eliminate plenty of variables, like the wifi connection on either end acting up for whatever reason and the application.
If it stays constant, then it's the app. If it doesn't, well that's not a 100% indication either. LTE is unstable speeds will fluctuate. If you're only testing from one location, that's not a very good conclusion either.
Whenever you have a problem, try to go through the total process of elimination only focusing on one variable at a time and try to keep everything else the same. Most likely it's you or the current setup on your phone or the application, not verizon. How do I know this? Because many have downloaded way more than you have and haven't been throttled (just from people I know locally with an LTE enabled phone).
Exusting all possible outcomes is a much better conclusion than wildly guessing you are being throttled though.
Another way you can test directly on your phone:
1) open up the terminal
2) type the 3 lines below: (downloads a file, gets the time it took and then removes it after)
cd /mnt/sdcard
time wget http://207.192.68.6/100MB-newark.bin
rm 100MB-newark.bin
*if the above doesn't work, then you need busybox, but nearly every rom/kernel has it that's not stock, so you should by default, have it. If not, search in the market for busybox installer. The reason you see an ip there is wget doesnt play well with hostnames on the android due to the way it resolves domains and busybox generally being statically linked. If you want to try another url, you have to get the ip like above (you can do that by pinging the hostname on your phone).
3)Note "real" the time it took in seconds and divide 100 by that to get Megabytes per second (MBps not Mbps) or by 102400 to get Kilobytes per second (I suppose you could get Megabits, but that's a pretty pointless measurement other than making your connection look fast compared to saying bytes, since your files all appear in bytes and browser downloads show in bytes). If you really care about mbps, multiple what you did above already by 8.
4) when it finishes you have an answer totally on your phone alone.
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I'm sorry if this has already been discussed in the Thunderbolt forums but I did a search and could only find posts in other phone specific forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943171
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937925&highlight=throttle
I have LTE turned on in my area and when I use my wireless tether for root users I get awesome speeds between 2-3MBps but after about 150-200MB downloaded those speeds immediately drop off to just 10-20k or so. Now I rarely go over the 5GB soft cap and even when I do it's only by a few hundred MBs. Is there some sort of throttling going on and any way to stop it?
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I believe there is a problem with the "Wireless Tether" app. I don't think it plays well with the 4G, this could be a reason for it. Have you tried used the "Mobile Hotspot" app, that comes with the phone? Do you get the same results?
I have also used the stock mobile hotspot app as well as tether via usb and get the same result. For clarification... I am downloading large files (500mb or larger) from a work server so I know that it's a problem on my phone end and not a problem on the server end. I can be on my home computer and download the files and never drop below 5MBps download the whole time... usually never drop below 10MBps to be honest.
Android police says that the way wireless tether works.. there is no way to tell if you're tethering or not without digging deep into packets.. deep enough that it would be invasion of privacy
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/27/psa-take-it-easy-att-isnt-targeting-unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
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Android police says that the way wireless tether works.. there is no way to tell if you're tethering or not without digging deep into packets.. deep enough that it would be invasion of privacy
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
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That's all good and well but there is definitely something going on here. I've run the same test same file all 3 ways once every 4 hours since my first post and at about 150-200mb downloaded my speeds drop to almost non existent and the same goes for files downloaded from Microsoft and Google among others. Downloading the same file from my home internet does not see this slow down at all. I've even tried letting it run for over an hour like that to see if it was something temporary. It seems to stay throttled down till I've let the phone sit for a few hours without using any data then kicks back up to normal speeds until I restart another large download.
Is there any way to do a more controlled experiment to see if I'm crazy, unique or what?
ignitros said:
That's all good and well but there is definitely something going on here. I've run the same test same file all 3 ways once every 4 hours since my first post and at about 150-200mb downloaded my speeds drop to almost non existent and the same goes for files downloaded from Microsoft and Google among others. Downloading the same file from my home internet does not see this slow down at all. I've even tried letting it run for over an hour like that to see if it was something temporary. It seems to stay throttled down till I've let the phone sit for a few hours without using any data then kicks back up to normal speeds until I restart another large download.
Is there any way to do a more controlled experiment to see if I'm crazy, unique or what?
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yeah...backup your current rom, flash and restore your phone back to near stock (still rooted) and try without any meddling (custom stuff) http://www.multiupload.com/26WG1UZCXR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
you also never mentioned what android version and rom you are currently using. if it's anything other than froyo, that could be your problem since nothing else is anywhere as stable (by stable, i dont mean "oh it works" i mean as in tested throughly and was put out for non testing release).
Though the above suggestions stated above likely are the culprit, and will help you...there is also a chance that you are indeed being throttled occasionally. Infact, I'm sure we all have been. Verizon has several manned data centers throughout the state who monitor all the traffic happening, and can, and will, activately manupulate the speeds, thoroughput, etc depending on how conjestion things are. And yes, they can even pinpoint it on an individual level...though they rarely do that, tending to focus on what's happening on a more macro level.
I actually wasn't even aware of this until recently, but some guy who worked at Verizon who was also in school for that sort of thing let it slip when we started chatting for a second, to which he received a scathing look from the ***** manager, so that ended the conversation.
I was running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and I did return to stock without root this morning to try it out that way as well and I'm still seeing the same results.
ignitros said:
I was running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and I did return to stock without root this morning to try it out that way as well and I'm still seeing the same results.
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Find someone else with a 4g device and have them download next to you at the same time. Only other option I can think of doing.
I'll try that.
Update:
I got with a few friends and tried a few different things. 3 people with Thunderbolts and 2 with Droid Charge. 2 in Seattle and 3 in Spokane. The Thunderbolts rooted and running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and the Charges fully stock. We tried the download using 3 methods for the TBolt's (wireless tether for root, mobile hotspot and USB tether) and the Charges used the mobile hotspot.
We all downloaded the same files. A 512mb video file, 400mb zipped picture file and a 300mb document file.
My Seattle friends who have had the "official" 4G LTE launch had no issues downloading at all... 1 TBolt and 1 Charge. Download went smoothly and never throttled down at all.
All 3 of us here in Spokane saw the same throttling going on. Could this be more an effect of LTE not being "officially" deployed in Spokane yet? It's not supposed to be officially launched till June 19th but we've been able to access it for several weeks now.
ignitros said:
All 3 of us here in Spokane saw the same throttling going on. Could this be more an effect of LTE not being "officially" deployed in Spokane yet? It's not supposed to be officially launched till June 19th but we've been able to access it for several weeks now.
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I would say that's a possibility. I get around 130 kbit/sec down, and LTE was officially launched here in december but only at our airport. I've been checking for nearly two weeks now and it's stayed the same. the upload is normal, was 3.5mbit/sec today.
This is all good to know. I'll be in Seattle next week for work. Can't wait to have 4G for a week

atrix wifi slow?

just got the atrix and when i download stuff over wifi its almost the exact same speed as if it was downloading over the network. i turned data off and only used wifi and still its slow as hell. my incredible doesnt do this so i know its not an issue with my router. could i have gotten a bad phone? ive only seen like 1 thread asking about slow wifi download so maybe i did?
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just got the atrix and when i download stuff over wifi its almost the exact same speed as if it was downloading over the network. i turned data off and only used wifi and still its slow as hell. my incredible doesnt do this so i know its not an issue with my router. could i have gotten a bad phone? ive only seen like 1 thread asking about slow wifi download so maybe i did?
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My wifi is fast.
What is your carrier, what firmware are you on, and what have you done to your phone (if anything at all).
Att I just signed up 4 days ago. I'm on stock 83 firmware. I'd did root it just so I could sideload apps
I'm guessing it's should get a replacment. The wifi shouldn't be like this
I would simply unroot it and trade it for a new one if I were in your situation at an ATT store.
Good luck
why dont you do some speed tests with the app to quantify your slow speeds. then compare to speeds from other atrix owners so you can judge based on the numbers.
its def a problem with the phone. my speed test are about 8 mb/s but anything i download from the internet or market its about 250 kb/s. my incredible will download anything on wifi at about 1 mb/s. i even just put greyblur on and changing roms doesn't do anything
al52025 said:
its def a problem with the phone. my speed test are about 8 mb/s but anything i download from the internet or market its about 250 kb/s. my incredible will download anything on wifi at about 1 mb/s. i even just put greyblur on and changing roms doesn't do anything
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4.1.83 and older firmware on teh atrix has a stupid market cap that limits download speed to a few hundred kb/s. the newer gingerbread builds removed this cap. im not sure about the download speed from the internet though, can you watch youtube vids on 720p on your atrix using your wifi without lagging?
yep just loaded up a couple hq videos and they run perfect

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