Hi guis, someone has already found/buy valid device?? thanks
I use one of these, small, slim, usb bus powered, multi format.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132741/show_product_specifications#specifications
Pantaloonie said:
I use one of these, small, slim, usb bus powered, multi format.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132741/show_product_specifications#specifications
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It's nice that it's a small one, but every USB device will work
I didn't have any, but have an USB Harddisk (IDE).
I attached a DVD player to the IDE connection for the harddisk and it worked.
I'm not using this everytime, but only used it for installation of SP1 and Office 2007 Enterprise.
Now my HD is putted back in his case
Pantaloonie said:
I use one of these, small, slim, usb bus powered, multi format.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132741/show_product_specifications#specifications
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If you put htcshift in bios mode, you can see the dvd writer on device list?
Very very very tanks!!
killer_t said:
If you put htcshift in bios mode, you can see the dvd writer on device list?
Very very very tanks!!
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Don't know about that but you can select in the bootlist. (I used it to make a Ghost image )
michael85 said:
Don't know about that but you can select in the bootlist. (I used it to make a Ghost image )
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I have an external 120 gb usb traxtor 1,8" hard disk, but i no see them in bios device...
Both my LG DVD drive and my 250Gb 2.5" WD Passport drive show in the bios and can be booted from.
LG DVD/USB writer not working!
michael85 said:
It's nice that it's a small one, but every USB device will work
I didn't have any, but have an USB Harddisk (IDE).
I attached a DVD player to the IDE connection for the harddisk and it worked.
I'm not using this everytime, but only used it for installation of SP1 and Office 2007 Enterprise.
Now my HD is putted back in his case
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I have a similar one, that is LG GSA-E50L and it does not work properly...nothing helps, even SP1 could not make it work. The OS sees it and so does BIOS, i can even eject discs but it does not read or record any data !!! The device works excellently in my laptop/xp Media Center so it seems it is the problem of Vista...Who knows what to do?
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I have a similar one, that is LG GSA-E50L and it does not work properly...nothing helps, even SP1 could not make it work. The OS sees it and so does BIOS, i can even eject discs but it does not read or record any data !!! The device works excellently in my laptop/xp Media Center so it seems it is the problem of Vista...Who knows what to do?
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Are you using external power, or just the usb to power ?
Don't know that drive, i use a plextor, and it needs external power with the shift, or a usb power source pluged in the mini usb plug of the 3 port usb hub/lan device.
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Are you using external power, or just the usb to power ?
Don't know that drive, i use a plextor, and it needs external power with the shift, or a usb power source pluged in the mini usb plug of the 3 port usb hub/lan device.
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Cause the manual says it does not need any additional power plugs I used the equiped USB data cable (USB-mini USB) only. Another option suggested by the manufacturer that i used is USB data cable and DC-JackType USB power cable together that were pluged into 3 port USB hub from HTC...what exact model of the Plextor drive do you have, maybe i would buy one instead my LG...
my plextor is a PX-608CU
It dosnt need external power running on a laptop but i does when running on the shift,
On this drive there is 2 usb cabels, 1 power/data cable and one additional usb power cable.
even if i use both in the shift hub the is not enough power to use the drive unless i either use a miniusb powersupply to power the hub, or use external power to power the drive. (so the shift usbhub does not have that much juice in thats also why they made the powerplug in the hub)
Thank U Master !!!
pusler said:
my plextor is a PX-608CU
It dosnt need external power running on a laptop but i does when running on the shift,
On this drive there is 2 usb cabels, 1 power/data cable and one additional usb power cable.
even if i use both in the shift hub the is not enough power to use the drive unless i either use a miniusb powersupply to power the hub, or use external power to power the drive. (so the shift usbhub does not have that much juice in thats also why they made the powerplug in the hub)
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It really is as you said; i would not have guessed that since the manual says it doesn't need additional source of power, but of course it does not refer to HTC Shift...so i really am grateful and i should also say sorry to MS for supposing some Vista bugs...
ssaqu said:
I have a similar one, that is LG GSA-E50L and it does not work properly...nothing helps, even SP1 could not make it work. The OS sees it and so does BIOS, i can even eject discs but it does not read or record any data !!! The device works excellently in my laptop/xp Media Center so it seems it is the problem of Vista...Who knows what to do?
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nooooooooo, i buy it three days ago.. and arrives next week!!
are you sure? the gsa-E50L don't work on htc shift?????
if you attach into shift directly? without usb hub?
please reply!!!
killer_t said:
nooooooooo, i buy it three days ago.. and arrives next week!!
are you sure? the gsa-E50L don't work on htc shift?????
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Read the thread it just need external power
For me its not a big problem since i bought the MP3450
witch have a usb power port that is always on.
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nooooooooo, i buy it three days ago.. and arrives next week!!
are you sure? the gsa-E50L don't work on htc shift?????
if you attach into shift directly? without usb hub?
please reply!!!
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Mine works ok when attached to the single usb port, but not when using the HTC hub... same goes for the 250Gb Passport drive.
I bought a slim wee LG DVD reader/writer, and also found that I had to use the USB power cable for the Shift to mount disks.
Question for the community: Windows Media Player refuses to play DVDs and pops up this error:
Windows Media Player cannot play DVD video. You might need to adjust your Windows display settings. Open display settings in Control Panel, and then try lowering your screen resolution and color quality settings.
Any suggestions for getting a disk to play without having to rip it first? Thanks!
Does anyone know of a slimline DVD player (not bothered about writer) that works with the Shift and will playback DVDs powered by the USB port only?
HTC Shift doesnt provide enough USB power for external USB devices!
Hi i use the following external DVD writer with my Shift ...
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10986
The product is excellant and also has light scribe ... but let me assure u that though it works with a few laptops without external power, it doesnt work with shift. i have tried it without external power and though it's lights coome one and it spins also nothing is read... so u have to use an external power adapter with HTC shift if u wanna use an external dvd writer!
Realy portable printer, I would say Brother MW-140BT or MW-260 those are realy portable. Anyway either of them are too expensive.
I am using the old good Canon BJC-50 portable printer connected through the Delock USB Infrared adapter Ref. 61574.
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Just wondering if a typical cell charger can provide enough power to power these three things. (or if it will even work properly)
1 The Phone
2 A USB flash drive
3 HML adapter
What I want to do is connect power to the USB splitter male (I already have a wall plug to USB female adapter) then with the USB female ends I will connect a USB flash drive and then use a male USB to male micro-USB cable to power the MHL adapter. The phone goes to the other micro-USB end of the MHL adapter.
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I want this for two reasons. 1 So I can play media from a flash drive to a TV or monitor and 2 (if this will even work) use it to connect a USB to XLR cable so that I can record with a better quality microphone to my phone.
I realize that the phone being able to recognize and use the flash drive or microphone may be an issue but I can take a chance on that if nobody can confirm if it will or will not work.
BTW: if you have not already noticed, we are finally starting to get some reasonably priced MHL adapters on fleabay now. They are ranging from around 20-26 CAD (one in picture is 26)
I would like to know as well, as that sounds like a great alternative to carrying around DVD's and stuff, maybe even an externally powered harddrive, would need extfat or ntfs support though for large files.
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Linux reads NTFS hard drives and flash drives fine, so I am hoping that Android should also.
I was planning on getting the MHL adapter regardless anyway, and the other cables that I would need would only be like 10 bucks. So I am wanting to try it out since, like you say, opens up more options for portability that may replace other devices or at least take up less space.
I was mainly looking to see if I would hear a show stopper of why not to do this, like if this set up could damage something that is connected.
K3VL4R said:
Linux reads NTFS hard drives and flash drives fine, so I am hoping that Android should also.
I was planning on getting the MHL adapter regardless anyway, and the other cables that I would need would only be like 10 bucks. So I am wanting to try it out since, like you say, opens up more options for portability that may replace other devices or at least take up less space.
I was mainly looking to see if I would hear a show stopper of why not to do this, like if this set up could damage something that is connected.
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You will need a proper usb to go cable to connect the flash drive or hdd, i have connected a flash drive to my phone without any problems..
I would think you would need a custom kernels or ntfs-3G modules for the kernel you are using.
The big thing is if the phone can deal with being charged, output hdmi and connect to a HDD over the same usb port at the same time?
Maybe a powered hub?
Also wondering if there would be enough bandwidth on the bus to support that all.
The big thing that would be good for me is that I could buy a cheap self powered hdd, load it up with movies and stuff and watch it while at work where there's a lot of down time, and being able to charge and use tv out at the same time would mean I could watch the iplayer or something on the tv without having to worry about battery life!
Hey, connect a mouse and keyboard as well and your phone is basically a normal computer!
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Good idea. This powered hub is almost as cheap as the splitter cable and should take care of any power requirements.
As for the on-the-go cable, I have different angled micro male to usb female cables already so that I can help take stress off the jack when using it while charging. My USB flash drive does not power up with this cable. I just assumed it needed external power. What is different about the OTG cable, did they twist some wires or are mine just meant for charging if they are not working ? All the pins are present and the cable is thick, so no reason why they would not just connect everything internally.
Thanks for the replies so far.
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Good idea. This powered hub is almost as cheap as the splitter cable and should take care of any power requirements.
As for the on-the-go cable, I have different angled micro male to usb female cables already so that I can help take stress off the jack when using it while charging. My USB flash drive does not power up with this cable. I just assumed it needed external power. What is different about the OTG cable, did they twist some wires or are mine just meant for charging if they are not working ? All the pins are present and the cable is thick, so no reason why they would not just connect everything internally.
Thanks for the replies so far.
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In order for usb to go to work you need a special cable, its got a special pin that's grounded or floating or has a few different values depending, the cables are very cheap on eBay or there's guides on how to make them.
OTG won't work with generic cables im afraid.
I just want this idea to work myself :d
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Im sitting here with a SGS2 with a USB kb, mouse, and a flash drive connected to it.
SGS2> (usb to go cable) > Powered hub > Mouse + keyboard + flash drive.
To get random devices to work (not hubs, input devices) you will need to add the device ids, see this thread for more info, more info and some device/vendor ids and a huge list of almost every device/vendor id
Attached is a rules file with logitech and some other vendors, add and expand as needed!
Now I need to buy a micro USB > many micro USB's and a mhl cable!
The powered hub is a must or stuff just wont work due to the power draw.
Im looking at picture of the MHL adaptor, and they all have a USB port for passthough, so we can defo at the very least charge while outputting via it.
The big question now is if you can daisy chain and do MHL and OTG at the same time!
Well, unless on a lucky chance the USB port will work with a splitter, you cant do MHL and OTG at the same time. A real shame
Thanks for the updates and links veyka. It also looks like the OTG cables do not charge the phone with the jumpered pins, so I will have to make sure and mark the OTG cables when they get here.
I should have the rest of my cables arrive in about 2-3 weeks and will post an update of what will or will not work. Sounds like the OTG cable alone should work with the USB to XLR cable for a microphone, as long as I can find a way to get the phone to recognize it. Though it would be nice to charge at the same time as well which the OTG does not support.
Do you know off hand what the headphone jack will accept for inputs ? Will it take TRRS or TRS audio in as well ? I am just looking at more options for XLR to the phone for connectivity without needing a mixer. Then I will use a mixer as well to see how much of a difference the balanced XLR out will make.
K3VL4R said:
Thanks for the updates and links veyka. It also looks like the OTG cables do not charge the phone with the jumpered pins, so I will have to make sure and mark the OTG cables when they get here.
I should have the rest of my cables arrive in about 2-3 weeks and will post an update of what will or will not work. Sounds like the OTG cable alone should work with the USB to XLR cable for a microphone, as long as I can find a way to get the phone to recognize it. Though it would be nice to charge at the same time as well which the OTG does not support.
Do you know off hand what the headphone jack will accept for inputs ? Will it take TRRS or TRS audio in as well ? I am just looking at more options for XLR to the phone for connectivity without needing a mixer. Then I will use a mixer as well to see how much of a difference the balanced XLR out will make.
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In the end android should support anything linux does, you might need to build a kernel module (driver) or find someone that will for you.
You can get pretty much any input device going with the links above, but other stuff, I dont know im afraid
Hope lives eternal.
No clue im afraid
No problem bud. You have been more than helpful already. I already have a plethora of cables and devices for recording on laptop and PC with Windows and Linux. My Android uses for recording are so far purely just for practicing so that I have it down in case something of interest is created. So ease of use and portability is the main factor.
It also interested me just to be able to find different ways of recording since so much of it is done through software these says. The more knowledgeable I am with cables, signals and processing, the more options that I will have available to me. Though I still like to mic an amp then process afterwards.
I'm assuming Razr support usb host functionality as the motorola multimedia dock has USB ports.
I connected a samsung micro usb male to usb A female cable to it with a USB key (checked with a pair of models), but couldn't reach its files.
The Razr couldn't see it.
Maybe I'm missing something as I'm new to android world, but USB host functionality right from the phone without too many adapters would be the first thing I would show to any Apple's slave to show what modern phone is expected to do.
Hope I wasn't wrong as USB host capability + Bluetooth 4.0 together with its fast response and good audio were the quite unique specs (at least on the same device) which lead me to invest on it!
Anyone found a solution to use a standard adaptor or are we tied to the motorola multimedia dock (or hopefully at least a smaller proprietary adaptor?)
Maybe something like the Xoom 'desktop hack' could be a solution or is there any simpler one? I don't know exactly if this hack gave also OTG functionality together with unblocking the desktop mode (couldn't understand from what I googled around).
[go directly to the post with the actual findings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20008351&postcount=31
I'll update this first post with a resume of the findings as soon as I'll have time to ]
Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343982#post19398196
I have usb host cable from my old s2 ,i have tried but doesn't works any usb pendrive or usb mouse/keyboard.
Inviato dal mio XT910 usando Tapatalk
can u provide a link where did u buy it?
Szadzik said:
Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343982#post19398196
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Didn't helped, as from my first post I already checked with a samsung adaptor and didn't worked out of the box.
asheg said:
can u provide a link where did u buy it?
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I bought it in a real life store, actually 'Mondadori informatica' which had in stock Razr since the 10th of November.
If it helps it is Model: ET-R205UBEGSTD by Samsung.
I checked it with two FAT32 memory sticks and didn't worked
It's useless.
You need a powered USBHost cable, so you need to connect the 5V to an external battery or an external power supply, and TX/RX to the USB end of the device you are connecting to the phone.
Or, alternatvely, you need a powered USB Hub.
It won't just work. Motos don't give any output power from the USB.
so did anyone find working otg usb host so far?
i have the proper nokia cable which works on the Xoom but it wil not work on the RAZR (i assume) until like the Xoom a custom kernel can be installed to access this feature.
dont see that coming anytime soon (least not Verizon RAZR)
Can't you all read what someone writes prior you?
USBOTG WORKS ONLY IF EXTERNALLY POWERED. HARDWARE LIMITATION.
kholk said:
Can't you all read what someone writes prior you?
USBOTG WORKS ONLY IF EXTERNALLY POWERED. HARDWARE LIMITATION.
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If OTG functionality were just a matter of powering a device with an external source that would not be a big issue considering the avaiability of power reserve devices.
I think a step forward in understanding Razr's OTG capabilities will be given dismantling a multimedia docking station and playing with it as soon as it will be available.
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1 VCC Red +5 V
2 D− White Data −
3 D+ Green Data +
4 ID none Mode Identification
5 GND Black Ground
LapDock:
+5V and GND connected directly to the battery of the LapDock, TX+RX connected to the integrated USB HUB.
Docking Station:
+5V and GND connected directly to external power (5V AC), TX+RX connected to the integrated USB HUB.
Oh, in BOTH, for enabling the Host Mode, pins 4 and 5 are shortcircuited, exactly as the USB OTG specifications.
Dismounted a micro usb male to USB female cable, to my surprise found it with connection 4 free.
Hence made the 4-5 bridge and checked again.
Yet no usb host connectivity with an external powered 2.5 HD.
The HD happened to charge the Razr.
Hence modified the cable disconnecting the +5V.
Now I should have an OTG cable with an external powered devices.
As soon as I'll find back my USB Y cable I'll check with it and some external devices to see if any of them is recognized right out of the box.
Yet I suspect that, like the Razr Upon USB connection let you choose between some differents kind of connections, maybe some settings has to trigger host mode.
Any idea?
You've done something wrong, mine works fine in USBHost Mode.
kholk said:
You've done something wrong, mine works fine in USBHost Mode.
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kholk said:
You've done something wrong, mine works fine in USBHost Mode.
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What an incredible news!
There are quite a bunch of posts around about Razr USB host capability, but up to now (to my google capabilities) no one succeeded in connecting any external I/O!
I'm pretty sure about the wirings (at least according to pure guessing from your schematics) as I checked all of them with a tester.
The wiring I made is quite simple
on the micro USB side:
contacts 4 and 5 bridged
Data wires connected to its corresponding ones on the female USB.
Power and ground on the female USB taken from an male USB connected to a charger.
Anything wrong?
Now it comes the detail requests:
1) What does it happen when you connect your cable to the Razr. Does it recognize it in some way giving any notice?
2) Rooted is needed? (Mine is not yet rooted).
3) Any special setup/tweaking to have OTG working?
4) Where do you access the external I/O contenct? From a directory in \SDcard otherways where else? Can you name it?
5) What I/O have you succesfully connected? Any kind of memory stick works? Any kind of HD? Mouse? Keyboards?
Thanks in advance in the name of all of the Razr's users interested in usb host functionality!
You would have to connect ground from the charger to the phone also.
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You would have to connect ground from the charger to the phone also.
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Thanks Pajn for the suggestion, actually updated the wirings but with no luck!
Are you currently using a cable like this to connect devices to your Razr?
If the following questions could be answered at least we would know what to expect when the wirings are correct!
Karmarock said:
Now it comes the detail requests:
1) What does it happen when you connect your cable to the Razr. Does it recognize it in some way giving any notice?
2) Rooted is needed? (Mine is not yet rooted).
3) Any special setup/tweaking to have OTG working?
4) Where do you access the external I/O contenct? From a directory in \SDcard otherways where else? Can you name it?
5) What I/O have you succesfully connected? Any kind of memory stick works? Any kind of HD? Mouse? Keyboards?
Thanks in advance in the name of all of the Razr's users interested in usb host functionality!
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@Kholk
Some words about your experience are eagerly waited with great anticipation!
Karmarock said:
Thanks Pajn for the suggestion, actually updated the wirings but with no luck!
Are you currently using a cable like this to connect devices to your Razr?
If the following questions could be answered at least we would know what to expect when the wirings are correct!
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To bad it didn't work
No I have not tested. I proposed it because it have to be so electrically. If you don't connect ground the phone have no possibility to read the signal.
IE. if you power to things from different sources you should always connect the ground.
I don't have a cable so I can't test myself
Karmarock said:
What an incredible news!
There are quite a bunch of posts around about Razr USB host capability, but up to now (to my google capabilities) no one succeeded in connecting any external I/O!
I'm pretty sure about the wirings (at least according to pure guessing from your schematics) as I checked all of them with a tester.
The wiring I made is quite simple
on the micro USB side:
contacts 4 and 5 bridged
Data wires connected to its corresponding ones on the female USB.
Power and ground on the female USB taken from an male USB connected to a charger.
Anything wrong?
Now it comes the detail requests:
1) What does it happen when you connect your cable to the Razr. Does it recognize it in some way giving any notice?
2) Rooted is needed? (Mine is not yet rooted).
3) Any special setup/tweaking to have OTG working?
4) Where do you access the external I/O contenct? From a directory in \SDcard otherways where else? Can you name it?
5) What I/O have you succesfully connected? Any kind of memory stick works? Any kind of HD? Mouse? Keyboards?
Thanks in advance in the name of all of the Razr's users interested in usb host functionality!
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The first try was with the Motorola LapDock, the second one with a custom USBOTG cable.
When you connect the RAZR to the USBOTG cable or to a LapDock, it says that a dock has been connected to the device (HD Multimedia Station or LapDock, both are recognized as docks, obviously).
So you have to connect something to your RAZR and it will be instantly recognized but the USB Device Connected notification is shown only in WebTop, not in Android.
The USBOTG cable HAS TO give power to the RAZR and to the devices you're connecting to it, otherwise the RAZR won't recognize the Dock Connected status.
Be sure your AC power is 5V with at least 1A, otherwise there won't be enough amperage for RAZR and the connected device and since the RAZR has got the priority, you'll only charge the device's battery and your connected USB device won't have the necessary power for working correctly.
ROOT is not needed for OTG USBHost operation as the device has been configured by Moto to work in USBHost Mode.
When you connect an external pendrive, the device will automatically create a device node and will automatically mount the connected pendrive/USBHDD in a directory created in /mnt.
I've successfully connected all the device I was able to use on ATRIX, including keyboards, mouses, an 8GB PenDrive and a 500GB external HDD.
I'm also about to see if I can do a modification to the ATRIX LapDock for including into it another USB HUB and a switchable (ON/OFF) 2.5 250GB SATA->USB HDD. If I'll success in this, I'll also post on xda-developers a thread with the instructions on how to do that.
Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows how the Nexus Tablet 7 charges? Not through the USB port, right?
I have a Transformer right now w/ the dock & 2 full sized usb ports on it. But I have been waiting for the Nexus Tab for months, because of the screen, processor, and price. however since it does not have a microSD, I would definitely need to be able to plug in my 500GB usb hdd into it. I would need a OTG cable, right? And it does not use the MicroUSB port to charge, right? Otherwise how could you use the usb and charge it at the same time? Hoping someone can clear this up for me, thanks!
mvmacd said:
Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows how the Nexus Tablet 7 charges? Not through the USB port, right?
I have a Transformer right now w/ the dock & 2 full sized usb ports on it. But I have been waiting for the Nexus Tab for months, because of the screen, processor, and price. however since it does not have a microSD, I would definitely need to be able to plug in my 500GB usb hdd into it. I would need a OTG cable, right? And it does not use the MicroUSB port to charge, right? Otherwise how could you use the usb and charge it at the same time? Hoping someone can clear this up for me, thanks!
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ditto. i would like to know the same thing.
it should be pretty easy to do, but not sure if its possible.
enohand said:
ditto. i would like to know the same thing.
it should be pretty easy to do, but not sure if its possible.
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great, yeah, I would think you can do it but I just wanted to be sure before buying it. Perhaps when someone gets their Nexus Tab they can try it and tell us.
I'm not sure what the thoughts are around it, but I know Seagate has a portable Wifi Harddrive with an 8 hour battery.
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/goflex-satellite/
I'm hoping that will deal with my additional storage capacity. I would love to know if it uses MicroUSB to charge just to avoid carrying several thousand adapters though.
mvmacd said:
great, yeah, I would think you can do it but I just wanted to be sure before buying it. Perhaps when someone gets their Nexus Tab they can try it and tell us.
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after some digging i found out that the OTG cable or USB functionality does not work for external drives & only works for keyboard & mice by default.
im sure somthing has to be written to do this, or somthing has to be added to include the mass storage driver ?>
Well, Ebay says...
What's in the sealed box:
· Nexus 7 tablet
· >>>> USB sync/charge cable <<<<
· Dual-voltage USB wall charger
· Quick start guide
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Spare charger puts out 5V 2000ma so yes it can charge via USB but much slower. The battery is so large most usb puts out 500ma so it would take 8 hours to charge battery from empty to full.
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Spare charger puts out 5V 2000ma so yes it can charge via USB but much slower. The battery is so large most usb puts out 500ma so it would take 8 hours to charge battery from empty to full.
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Hmm, well what I was asking if there was a way to charge AND use the usb port at the same time. Maybe with a powered hub, and a OTG cable? Anyway, would charging it via 5v 500 mAh be able to keep the battery level full? while using it, starting from fully charged?
enohand said:
after some digging i found out that the OTG cable or USB functionality does not work for external drives & only works for keyboard & mice by default.
im sure somthing has to be written to do this, or somthing has to be added to include the mass storage driver ?>
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okay, ugh.. I really hoped Google would just support usb host mode off the bat. I guess all that's needed would be a kernel with host mode supported. but you'd need CWM, and root for that.. are there any forums that have the Nexus Tablet 7 category yet?? I would like to stay tuned for updates.
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how could you use the usb and charge it at the same time?
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You can always use USB hubs (not 100% sure). But, I'd recommend you to access your HDD over Wi-Fi. Many Wi-Fi routers support HDD connectivity. And, you can find HDDs with in-built Wi-Fi, too.
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Spare charger puts out 5V 2000ma so yes it can charge via USB but much slower. The battery is so large most usb puts out 500ma so it would take 8 hours to charge battery from empty to full.
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Hmm, well what I was asking if there was a way to charge AND use the usb port at the same time. Maybe with a powered hub, and a OTG cable? Anyway, would charging it via 5v 500 mAh be able to keep the battery level full? while using it, starting from fully charged?
enohand said:
after some digging i found out that the OTG cable or USB functionality does not work for external drives & only works for keyboard & mice by default.
im sure somthing has to be written to do this, or somthing has to be added to include the mass storage driver ?>
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okay, ugh.. I really hoped Google would just support usb host mode off the bat. I guess all that's needed would be a kernel with host mode supported. but you'd need CWM, and root for that.. are there any forums that have the Nexus Tablet 7 category yet?? I would like to stay tuned for updates.
The tablet does support host mode.
However it can only be used for keyboard and mice, there is no drivers for external, or is sticks. Someone w ok und have to implement that with a Asop Rom
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enohand said:
The tablet does support host mode.
However it can only be used for keyboard and mice, there is no drivers for external, or is sticks. Someone w ok und have to implement that with a Asop Rom
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I just found this: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30129-kernel-nexus-7-cifsntfsusb-otg/
that will let me get a Micro USB OTG, and be able to plug in my usb hdd? And if I get a powered USB 2.0 hub, I can plug the OTG into the source port, and the power from the hub will charge it? and while it's charging I can then plug in my USB hdd into a port on the hub and it will charge & use the hdd at the same time?
If so as soon as I get home I will start looking for a Nexus Tab to buy
IndustryCanada said:
I'm not sure what the thoughts are around it, but I know Seagate has a portable Wifi Harddrive with an 8 hour battery.
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/goflex-satellite/
I'm hoping that will deal with my additional storage capacity. I would love to know if it uses MicroUSB to charge just to avoid carrying several thousand adapters though.
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Also Kingston has SSD wi-fi drives of 16, 32 or 64GB capacity - are about the size of an iPhone. Uses mini-USB for charging. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Wi-Drive-Mini-USB-WID-64GB-A/dp/B00822GIH2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342706869&sr=8-1&keywords=kingston+wi-drive+64gb
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Also Kingston has SSD wi-fi drives of 16, 32 or 64GB capacity - are about the size of an iPhone. Uses mini-USB for charging. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Wi-Drive-Mini-USB-WID-64GB-A/dp/B00822GIH2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342706869&sr=8-1&keywords=kingston+wi-drive+64gb
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Here's the thing, I already got a Seagate 500gb 7200rpm drive, so I ain't interested in wifi drives. I was looking for confirmation that the kennel I linked world make it work. And also Confirmation about the usb hub charging and accessing hdd at the same time, so if anyone has a Nexus 7 and OTG cable and would test this I'd be much obliged.
mvmacd said:
I just found this: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30129-kernel-nexus-7-cifsntfsusb-otg/
that will let me get a Micro USB OTG, and be able to plug in my usb hdd? And if I get a powered USB 2.0 hub, I can plug the OTG into the source port, and the power from the hub will charge it? and while it's charging I can then plug in my USB hdd into a port on the hub and it will charge & use the hdd at the same time?
If so as soon as I get home I will start looking for a Nexus Tab to buy
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I don't think so, the power source of a hub only delivers energy to the devices connected, not to the host
It charges like any other android phone.
RoberGalarga said:
I don't think so, the power source of a hub only delivers energy to the devices connected, not to the host
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hmm.. you're right. so much for that idea..
Is there any way possible to charge the nexus tablet while using a OTG cable for plugging in a usb device?
what about a Y-Cable?
mvmacd said:
hmm.. you're right. so much for that idea..
Is there any way possible to charge the nexus tablet while using a OTG cable for plugging in a usb device?
what about a Y-Cable?
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Hmm... a good idea. Time to paint
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Will it work? I dunno, but it's an idea to start
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Hmm... a good idea. Time to paint
Will it work? I dunno, but it's an idea to start
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Wow, exactly what I had in mind before I thought of the y cable. however I'd like to hear the outcome if anyone does try this, or the y cable
Dam...
No it will not work, the device does not have the ability to Mount a drive, it doesn't have the software needed to do so
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I just got my DNA yesterday, and I have been testing a few USB peripherals to see how they work with an OTG adapter. I was unable to get anything working without an external power source, so I don't think the DNA is capable of delivering power via the port.
My setup consists of the following:
1. Belkin F5U234 4-port USB 2.0 hub
2. The hub is powered via a Mini USB Y-cable plugged into a USB PC/USB charging adapter (I can't seem to find the power adapter that came with the hub, but when I do, I'll test it)
3. The other end of the Y-cable is plugged into the OTG adapter, which is then plugged into the DNA.
From my experience so far, the hub has to be powered, with at least one peripheral plugged in, prior to plugging it into the phone.
I have been able to mount an SD card from a card reader and mount a USB flash drive.
I have been able to use a USB mouse.
I have not been able to get the phone to recognize a DSLR for use with DSLR Dashboard. However, I have not been able to do this on my Touchpad either, so it may be an operator malfunction. I've tried a Nikon D600 and D80.
USB keyboards should work.
Logitech Gamepad is recognized.
External hard drives are recognized, but should be formatted correctly.
Also worth noting is that the phone displays a message saying it's unable to charge the device and to use the supplied charger when the OTG cable is plugged in.
If someone can recommend a decent MIDI app for Android or a music production app, I have both MIDI devices and a Rocksmith cable that I can test with.
It has the ability to do USB otg self powered, just not enabled. Kernel needs it enabled.
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What format do you use for your hard drive? NTFS?
I've been plugging in USB flash drive, it mounts, but doesnt see any of my files on it... Also, it completely messed up my media files on the internal card, videos mostly, so I'm basically restoring the phone...
It doesn't seem to work with my wired Xbox 360 controller, sadly.
OTG WORKS
seedy oak said:
I just got my DNA yesterday, and I have been testing a few USB peripherals to see how they work with an OTG adapter. I was unable to get anything working without an external power source, so I don't think the DNA is capable of delivering power via the port.
My setup consists of the following:
1. Belkin F5U234 4-port USB 2.0 hub
2. The hub is powered via a Mini USB Y-cable plugged into a USB PC/USB charging adapter (I can't seem to find the power adapter that came with the hub, but when I do, I'll test it)
3. The other end of the Y-cable is plugged into the OTG adapter, which is then plugged into the DNA.
From my experience so far, the hub has to be powered, with at least one peripheral plugged in, prior to plugging it into the phone.
I have been able to mount an SD card from a card reader and mount a USB flash drive.
I have been able to use a USB mouse.
I have not been able to get the phone to recognize a DSLR for use with DSLR Dashboard. However, I have not been able to do this on my Touchpad either, so it may be an operator malfunction. I've tried a Nikon D600 and D80.
USB keyboards should work.
Logitech Gamepad is recognized.
External hard drives are recognized, but should be formatted correctly.
Also worth noting is that the phone displays a message saying it's unable to charge the device and to use the supplied charger when the OTG cable is plugged in.
If someone can recommend a decent MIDI app for Android or a music production app, I have both MIDI devices and a Rocksmith cable that I can test with.
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A year ago I bought an OTG cable for my Rezound and of course it didn't work.
So yesterday, I visited the Verizon store to do a little testing with my dust laden OTG cable.
1) The DNA has a default setting for mounting SD cards. Settings--> Storage--> Mount SD. When I ticked this tab....bam!
2) The DNA recognized my Micro SD card from my Rezound phone. Upon opening the music player, the DNA found my music and played a song. Unfortunately, the phone didn't have a file manager app installed and the play store didn't have an account to enable downloading apps.
3) The DNA recognized my Logitech IR USB dongle but I wasn't able to get the keyboard working in the limited time I had. The Logitech keyboard showed up under Settings--> Launguage & keyboard--> Keyboard & input methods.
While I would prefer an SD slot, there is something to be said about being able to plug-in any USB storage device. I plan to return to the store and test further. For me, this is a game changer. I am seriously considering upgrading to this phone.
Now to overcome the case/battery issue. I'm very used to the comfort of the Rezound with the bulkier extended battery/case/holster setup. Fits perfect on my hip & hand, lasts all day and it's rooted with wifi tether. Meets all my needs but 1080p is addictive...
Icyman said:
A year ago I bought an OTG cable for my Rezound and of course it didn't work.
So yesterday, I visited the Verizon store to do a little testing with my dust laden OTG cable.
1) The DNA has a default setting for mounting SD cards. Settings--> Storage--> Mount SD. When I ticked this tab....bam!
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What brand did you buy? I'm waiting for my DNA to get approved and I'm very interested in being able to continue to use my external SD card....plus if game pad peripherals work I'd be highly interested in that.
Icyman said:
Now to overcome the case/battery issue. I'm very used to the comfort of the Rezound with the bulkier extended battery/case/holster setup. Fits perfect on my hip & hand, lasts all day and it's rooted with wifi tether. Meets all my needs but 1080p is addictive...
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My rezound's battery life is poor if I'm being optimistic and this is with barely using it. I have tried various kernels, roms, and batterys and I think this is just my third lemon.....Dying to get out of this into something else. I've read the fears on battery life but anything is better then what I have and a quadcore processor is worth dealing with it for the performance gain.
Bought THIS cable on ebay for a couple of bucks. Plugged a micro usb reader (with my 32Gig card in it) in one end and the other into my phone and voila! Complete access to my old external sd. Played my music fine and if I was rooted, I could restore an old Titanium backup. Love it!
So I been reading up on things dusting off my half knowledge of HTC (been since the Eris days) and from what I understand s-off is something that hasn't been real achievable for the phones that don't have am external sdcard. If what this thread is discussing do some more knowledgeable people think that this could be used to obtain s-off? The possibilities of this could be very promising our just wishful thinking!!
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Was thinking the exact same thing....I know the crazy genius devs will figure something out.
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milan03 said:
What format do you use for your hard drive? NTFS?
I've been plugging in USB flash drive, it mounts, but doesnt see any of my files on it... Also, it completely messed up my media files on the internal card, videos mostly, so I'm basically restoring the phone...
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I belive the drive must be Fat untill NTFS is enabled in the kernal (based on the way the EVO worked)
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Wanted to weigh in. I got an otg cable and used a Usb hub (not powered externally) and both my Logitech g9x mouse and Microsoft sidewinder x4 keyboard work and are powered by the phone. The game pad I have does not work.
edit: some pictures for proof just incase
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Got the Butterfly X920d today.
USB OTG working without hubs so far for: wireless USB keyboard and mouse, external storage, and most importantly for me USB AUDIO! Gamepads are a bust so far, but yet to try my gamepad (so far Logitech F310, PS3, Xbox 360 for Windows controller not working via USB OTG even with USB/BT controller, even the Wiiremote is not working over bluetooth when it did on my One X last year).
I can't wait for my USB OTG adapter I ordered from Amazon on 12/21/12 to finally get here off the slow boat from China (actually it's Japan I think)! lol estimated delivery still shows 1/18-2/5..but for $0.86 I cannot really complain.
bakemcbride21 said:
I can't wait for my USB OTG adapter I ordered from Amazon on 12/21/12 to finally get here off the slow boat from China (actually it's Japan I think)! lol estimated delivery still shows 1/18-2/5..but for $0.86 I cannot really complain.
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The one i got from amazon just came yesterday. Worked with Sd card reader, will have to try to get a ps3 controller to work. Have no real need for it right now, but for 80 cents, might as well have it for when i do need something.
I've used a USB for a mouse and keyboard and SD card, yes SD must be FAT32 but I use a 32g card with no problems, streamed Movies at ease, between this, dnla and cloud I've got 8 gig free on my phone..
anyone figure out how to get the 360 to work?
Lights power on, but flashes and goes away when Android gives me a notification "Unable to charge"
Doesn't work with USB Stick Center, etc...
I can mount flash drives and such however
How could I enable USB OTG self powered mode?
c5satellite2 said:
It has the ability to do USB otg self powered, just not enabled. Kernel needs it enabled.
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How could I enable USB OTG self powered mode?
I've been waiting for a reply to this since 2013. Almost 5ish years lol.
Vhwang said:
How could I enable USB OTG self powered mode?
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Bud, I doubt anyone has very many functioning dna's at this point. But I would check out roms that support this out of the box at this point.
http://www.dx.com/p/usb-3-0-female-...able-w-adapter-black-20cm-289081#.U4Sx-ii5IrM
Anyone use this or buy from this site? Seems cheap enough *lol* and free shipping to us Canucks! :laugh:
I think it would be the same with those listed on eBay, I bought OTG USB 3.0 and it works pretty good.
thanks for the info...
enroh said:
http://www.dx.com/p/usb-3-0-female-...able-w-adapter-black-20cm-289081#.U4Sx-ii5IrM
Anyone use this or buy from this site? Seems cheap enough *lol* and free shipping to us Canucks! :laugh:
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i bought one of these from mobilepower on amazon, but it doesn't work. wanted it to power an external harddrive, but it was a no-go. my notepro recognizes that a usb connector was added, but doesn't mount the harddrive, even with the power pack attached.
however, i did get a usb2 otg cable and that works (pictured below). i don't know what the difference would be, perhaps i just got a dud with the usb3.
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I've got one coming in in the next 21 days (HK shipping, lol) so I'll tell you what's what when it arrives over here.
In an effort to find a way to lighten my travel load just a little (normally travel with tablet and my macbook pro) for trips where I'm really not going to need the laptop I decided to try out using a 4-port USB 3.0 hub.
Just got it yesterday so I haven't put it through its paces just yet.
Here's a test setup I just tried using a USB keyboard, mouse, 500GB hard drive formatted exFAT, and a usb SD card reader. Test setup is powered by an Anker Astro2 9000mah battery and utilizes this USB OTG cable and this USB 3.0 hub.
At first the setup was a bit finicky. I had plugged everything in (the wire for the hard drive is the piggy back style where it has an additional connector for power) and the hard drive would not show up in file browsers. It wasnt until I unplugged all but the hard drive and ran the hub off of the tablet's power that the drive showed up. I then plugged back the power source and everything was fine after that as I inserted the keyboard, mouse and card reader. Further testing is needed but at least I know I can copy files from my DSLR cards to my HDD as a backup at my leisure back at the hotel on my next trip.
All of this is more proof of concept kind of stuff for me. When I travel I will be using a bluetooth keyboard and mouse that gets left in the hotel room along with the hard drive and hub. I'll carry around the tablet wherever I go but it's nice to know that in a pinch I can use it back at the hotel as more than just a tablet if I need to.
does that y-connecter power the tablet or the drive? my drive does not require power attached (its a USB3 WD Passport Ultra 500GB) but I need to power my tablet with the drive connected as i barely get over 3 hours of 1080p playback till I need to plug in.
if your cord doesn't I need to find one that does - if one exists...if not i may switch over to a Surface Pro 3 as it has USB3 fullaize and a sep. power connector...will buy a power inverter for my vehicle
muzzy996 said:
In an effort to find a way to lighten my travel load just a little (normally travel with tablet and my macbook pro) for trips where I'm really not going to need the laptop I decided to try out using a 4-port USB 3.0 hub.
Just got it yesterday so I haven't put it through its paces just yet.
Here's a test setup I just tried using a USB keyboard, mouse, 500GB hard drive formatted exFAT, and a usb SD card reader. Test setup is powered by an Anker Astro2 9000mah battery and utilizes this USB OTG cable and this USB 3.0 hub.
At first the setup was a bit finicky. I had plugged everything in (the wire for the hard drive is the piggy back style where it has an additional connector for power) and the hard drive would not show up in file browsers. It wasnt until I unplugged all but the hard drive and ran the hub off of the tablet's power that the drive showed up. I then plugged back the power source and everything was fine after that as I inserted the keyboard, mouse and card reader. Further testing is needed but at least I know I can copy files from my DSLR cards to my HDD as a backup at my leisure back at the hotel on my next trip.
All of this is more proof of concept kind of stuff for me. When I travel I will be using a bluetooth keyboard and mouse that gets left in the hotel room along with the hard drive and hub. I'll carry around the tablet wherever I go but it's nice to know that in a pinch I can use it back at the hotel as more than just a tablet if I need to.
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enroh said:
does that y-connecter power the tablet or the drive? my drive does not require power attached (its a USB3 WD Passport Ultra 500GB) but I need to power my tablet with the drive connected as i barely get over 3 hours of 1080p playback till I need to plug in.
if your cord doesn't I need to find one that does - if one exists...if not i may switch over to a Surface Pro 3 as it has USB3 fullaize and a sep. power connector...will buy a power inverter for my vehicle
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Doesn't power the tablet, it's meant to power the USB devices.
I'm no electrical engineer but I would imagine that once the tablet goes into USB HOST mode there are limitations as to where power is going to go and that the power is going to go to the external devices not the tablet. Still I've seen mention of cables existing that will power both but have yet to see any concrete evidence of them. Would have loved it if this one powered both ways but I simply have no need to work for hours on end with a hard drive connected to my tablet.
I would imagine that with power going to the hard drive with this cable though your video playback time would increase substantially, perhaps even double to 6 hours.
For me I just use mircoSD cards with my video content on them that I'll swap in/out of the tablet as needed.
I have yet to find evidence that anyone has successfully powered the tablet with one of the y-adapters while using another device. I prefer to use my external drive as it doesn't require power connection and is 500GB. Maybe I will have to go the pricier microSD card route and limit the amount of media I have on it.
Not ideal if you ask me. Not that the SP3 is perfect but at least power and USB3 are separate ports and at least 128GB though the one I am looking at is 256GB.
muzzy996 said:
Doesn't power the tablet, it's meant to power the USB devices.
I'm no electrical engineer but I would imagine that once the tablet goes into USB HOST mode there are limitations as to where power is going to go and that the power is going to go to the external devices not the tablet. Still I've seen mention of cables existing that will power both but have yet to see any concrete evidence of them. Would have loved it if this one powered both ways but I simply have no need to work for hours on end with a hard drive connected to my tablet.
I would imagine that with power going to the hard drive with this cable though your video playback time would increase substantially, perhaps even double to 6 hours.
For me I just use mircoSD cards with my video content on them that I'll swap in/out of the tablet as needed.
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Yeah I wish there was a better solution. I have a Kingston MobileLite collecting dust over here. I wished that it worked well but it just plain doesn't. Large high res video file playback is hit and miss and the software that Kingston put out for Android is ****e. In theory this thing would be perfect for what you want, a separate device that you could power and use to share your hard drive wirelessly to the tablet to stream. In practice . . useless as far as I'm concerned. I dunno, perhaps all I need to do is re-encode my library of files to a format that will work with this device combo but I'm just not motivated to do that.
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