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I am coming from a DX where TBH modded the NV files to use the stock hotspot application.
I was wondering if there has been any devs taking a look into this...
And by the way I DO NOT want to start a ethics war on tethering or not tethering...
Thank you
There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
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There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
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I have skimmed thru quite a few recent posts regarding tethering and I find none of them useful in answering my question. I see that many of the posts go on to get a smartass remark or two from someone who has not a clue about how to answer the question.
Kinda like what happened in this post.
So I would like a linky or a better answer.
Ohhhh, if you want a smartass answer, I could do far better....
That was only my polite, "look around the knowledge base because it's useful" answer that noobs seem to find insulting anyways.
If I really wanted to be insulting, I would tell you to RTFM . I help plenty of people with legitimate questions, feel free to look at my post history and see for yourself.
But really, I do agree the ways people say it tend to be rather blunt.
However, the overreactions to even sensible replies to search around are also just also just as bad, since there doesn't need to be a new posting always and some people just don't think before they make one and reminding them to do a little search I think helps (if done in a not so overly rude way). My initial post was not a slight against you but a word of advice that people will do what you just said, insult you and give you non-helpful replies.
IDK what kind of solution you are looking for, but there isn't a magical "Verizon will give you free unlimited tethering legitimately without extra cost option if you ask them really nicely" or a "I'll come right over to your house code and compile the most amazing tether app in the world that actually boosts your LTE speed beyond what Verizon gives you and does your homework when it's idle."
Instead of taking the defensive because someone asked if you looked around a little, perhaps clarifying your question in a way that shows that you actually searched (i.e. "I noticed there was this method to tether or that, but I don't really like those options") makes it clear to everyone you gave it an honest shot and also motivates people to want to help you more
It also keeps things on topic so you get the answer you want faster. Just for future reference.
I searched the TB forums and didn't really see anything on the subject. I only found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082585
Maybe there's more in the general Android forums, though I didn't find much there either. I could just suck at searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087475&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074992&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077029&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070477&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064246&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060549&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056647&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054866&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060701&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034262&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007537&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030818&highlight=tether
and many more (I stopped on page 6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=74208283&pp=25&page=6)
I recommend using advanced search and "search by post" not by title. You'll get more relevant info that way. If you happen to be an opera mobile or desktop user, you can make a custom search from http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?f=940, by hold pressing on the search bar for that page for mobile or right clicking for the desktop. It will then add it to your other custom searches for easy access
Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
I never used stock hotspot app because I never even try apps with monthly charges. what's the point of checking it out and potentially getting hooked when I'm absolutely certain that I will NOT pay monthly charge for that. I'd rather switch back to T-mobile
with that said, I'm using wifi tether as I write this. it took me a while to configure it because it wouldn't work out of box but it's free and well worth the price!
I've been busy lately and havent kept up with this...so Verizon shut down the free tethering apps, like "wifi tether for root" and others?
Not to throw this thread off topic or anything I just wanted to know how you got the H and # key's confused in the thread title as they are quite far apart. Again, sorry to everyone just kind of a weird mistake.
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/3...ireless-tether-asks-that-you-purchase-a-plan/
Doesn't CM7 provide an integrated tethering solution? That should be undetectable to Verizon.
If they are baking something into the gingerbread update to detect tethering apps (pun not intended but welcome), it won't find its way into the CM7 code.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
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I doubt anyone on a T-bolt can confirm since we're still getting free hotspot. Unless they are allowing official hotspot use but blocking tethering apps.
I suppose that would make sense if they're trying to get people hooked on the feature.
Yareally thanks for the links. I don't know if you own a xoom but I have yet been able to get the search feature to work in the xda site. Maybe you could find a link for that as well and post it for me.
I am not currently at home with access to my laptop where I have full availability to use the advanced search feature. So thanks again for making these links available in ones easy to find location.
As for the #.. I use thumb keyboard on t#e xoom and it is t#e result of a long press on t#e h key. I think you should be proud if yourself for being able to figure out what I meant to type.
No offence to anyone but some times when you all jump on people asses there may be extenuating circumstances.
Sry for your troubles. But I hope you rest good at night knowing that you have helped one soul find some good info.
The search feature using a web browser or using the application for xda? I've heard the application has lots of issues for anyone period with the search and since many seem to use it, it's probably the reason for lots of duplicate posts. If you mean browsing it on an internet browser, that seems new to me as far as I know.
I've never used it, I just browse using opera mobile (with a link to the thunderbolt forum on my speed dial and the search tied into the search bar next to the url bar).
Opera mobile still has an unresolved issue with LTE being throttled (max of like 150KB/s), but it's not a deal breaker for me at least compared to using the stock browser in terms of getting to where I want to go quickly and its tie-ins to the desktop browser.
No worries about the thread. Internet makes it hard at times to interpret someone's replies anyways since words can be taken many ways, lol.
Now we all know that social networking has become a big thing in the past few years. Even more so now that there are apps all over the place that all do the same exact thing. Which is connect you with other people around the world, but what if you want to talk with someone a bit closer?
Everywhere you look there are people on their cell phones, whether it be android based or not. However what if your little people shy and want to strike up a conversation with someone? Especially if their tied up on their phone it makes it tough to bring up a random conversation. What if there was a way to kind of interrupt them and impress them at the same time?
For instance what if your friends dragged you to a bar, bars aren't your thing and you'd rather be at home playing games on your computer or just tearing apart the latest gizmo that you got. Well you happen to notice a girl on the other side of the bar that seems rather nerdy herself that got dragged by her friends and would rather pay more attention to her phone than the drunk guys trying to hit on her.. Obviously going over and saying hi isn't really an option as she'd likely just ignore you like she's done to the rest of the guys, cause your just another drunken idiot that wants to get in her pants (at least thats whats she'd think)..
Wouldn't it be a bit more interesting to say send a message to her phone even tho you don't know her, don't know her number, and know nothing about her.. However it'd get her attention if she got a popup that said "Hi, I can't help but notice your bored.. Me too."
Now this may or may not be possible, as I don't know a damn thing about the android nor hacking it. However I remember back in the day of high school me and a few friends during certain times of the day would go to the same computers in school, and since we knew the IP's of those computers we could send messages back and forth between each other cause they either A didn't disable windows messaging, or we had to turn it on.. We'd screw around with others in the library by sending a mass net send to all computers saying "Your computer has been infected!" then shutting them all down remotely..
Would there be a way to do such a proposal? If so anyone up to the challenge? Cause really how amazing would it be to just open up a new way to talk to those around you.
iOS had something I saw that almost kinda does this (at least I think) called sonar.me yet I don't know if android does..
Anyone?
I was thinking that if there was a way to utilize the push notifications.. Tho the question would be how to detect said device.. If they were on the same wifi as you that'd be easier.. Even through bluetooth, tho does bluetooth still transmit even when your not allowing it to be seen?
What about the possibility of just through the phone airways.. I mean they could be sitting there online with their phone anyway to intercept that..
Anyone at all?
Hey man, already thing this is a great idea. Although your scenario doesn't quite mesh with me as I am just as "geeky" in the world of pick-up as what I am in Android nerdi-ology haha (what I mean is I would have no issues going over there and sparking up conversation if shes geeky or not...although geeky would make it easier - bar easy!). Anyway I think that is a great idea. It would be ok if it was an app. Not just you sending a notification to their phone.
I was using message in a bottle for a while. Random and cool. But did not narrow to close proximity nor anything like your proposing.
I think there maybe privacy issues for push notifications being intrusive, but if someone elected for use via an app then they agree to accept notifications I think this would be ok.
I have wanted to have this sort of thing when I was on the train travelling home. I have even caught the eye of some random hottie down the isle and wanted to see if I could somehow contact her. I have scanned bluetooth and even tried to push a picture to someone thinking it could be her *thinks to self "hmm she kinda looks like a Jessica and she has a Nokia N95...bugger it send image to Jessica's N95" caching haha. So yeah I get what you mean .....walking up to someone on a train the environment (although sometimes is expected there is a level of acceptable human behavior there in) is not the place to be attempting to pick-up in dead silence with ears in close proximity eves dropping like all hell in comparison to say a night club/bar/outside area where people are sparse and/or conversation is not easily over heard. *NB: I have attempted (and passing the fear if she is confident and there has been an acceptable level of "eye-sex" or "eye-flirting" with smiles before hand) I won't get flagged off easy. If she is not confident....your pick-up interjection and sudden realisation of overh-hearing ears (eves droppers) can land even the best pick-up artist in a pickle and the shut-down is an even bigger tumble to say the least.
It's ok to get shut down in a bar where people can't hear very well, try getting shut down on a deadly silent train haha being snappy fast whitty and able to promptly deliver a negate to her clear cutting shut down is another subject all together. Being able to do it in a funny way may win you more laughs than her shut down too (geeeze I am going waaaaay off track from Android Nerd to Pick-nerd aren't I? wow I diversed big time! haha ) Aside from that I have been successful in picking up chicks on the train without this technology....but this sort of technology would only leverage a man's capability even more so.
Damn it! If this is made....I need to get a job out of town and get back on the god damned train again. I entered the world of Android to wear my geek hat so I wouldn't become obsessed pick-up dude again and here you are a forum member causing two worlds to collide! Thanks....NOT!
PM for more discussion or clarification of my ramblings haha
Well see thats the thing, sometimes girls just don't to be bothered, so how would you get their attention even for a small chat? If the girl was tech suave it could lead to an interesting topic of discussion on "How did you do that?". They have tons of chat apps that allow you to talk to complete strangers, but these people often are all over the world..
I like the things like the Nintendo DS, or even a Cybiko (if you even know what that is.. =D ) were it has a wireless chat feature where the room is just there and anyone in the area with the same device can just join in. The problem with the Nintendo DS is how often are you in a bar with one? Even the Cybiko (which is super old and was like a young tech kid's playtoy from like 2000) is that no one had it so its not like you could go out to a public area and have people join in on those chat channels.
I've seen apps that claim to do this, but they really don't, as its still over the internet instead of your local area..
Hell the closest thing that would almost be like this scenario would be hosting a open wireless connection that anyone could connect to, hosting an irc server on that network and having people connect to that server, which is quite a hastle for any one person to do just for an interesting way to chat..
Tho I agree with the whole privacy issue thing, I knew that'd probably be the case.. What if there was an app that your an that whenever someone came within your vicinity it would pop up saying "So and So has entered your area" and allowed you to click on their name and start saying hi..
Like I said in my first post there was sonar.me for ios, that kinda synced all the social networking sites to see who was in the same place you are. Supposedly it also allowed you to chat with the people that were also in your area. That would be kinda interesting..
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Ok so I have a 3D on my line which belongs to my sister. Well she works at the mall and some Indian guy that used to work for Sprint is telling her he hacks into her phone all the time and uses her internet and that if he wanted to he can access her photos too. So is this possible or is he just bs'in to spark coversations with her? I'm about ready to go over to her job and confront him. I find that sort of behavior creepy and intolerable! Any1 has any idea??
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I don't know if it's possible, but that is creepy and disgusting. If that happened to my family member, I would not put up with it.
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You need to go to the mall and take care of business...
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I'm starting to believe its possible. She just called me from her work phone to tell me she pulled out her battery bcuz it freaked her out and he asks what did she do bcuz he no longer has internet access. I might catch a case tonight I'm highly upset..
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idk man, you need to do some dental work.
I don't know if a "random" person could hack a phone. But:
1. Is the phone rooted? That would give a person more ability to do something bad.
2. There are "spy" software out there. But the guy would have had to have a few minutes alone with the phone.
3. Maybe install malware through an E-mail or text message.
But to use her phone for Internet access sounds pretty weak. Easier and better methods of doing that at a mall where public WIFI is all around.
Bottom line, if you are actually concerned, just have your sister do a factory restore, that wipes everything and then reinstall her apps one at a time validating all are suppose to be on her phone.
weidnerj said:
I don't know if a "random" person could hack a phone. But:
1. Is the phone rooted? That would give a person more ability to do something bad.
2. There are "spy" software out there. But the guy would have had to have a few minutes alone with the phone.
3. Maybe install malware through an E-mail or text message.
But to use her phone for Internet access sounds pretty weak. Easier and better methods of doing that at a mall where public WIFI is all around.
Bottom line, if you are actually concerned, just have your sister do a factory restore, that wipes everything and then reinstall her apps one at a time validating all are suppose to be on her phone.
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1. No
2. I know about the spy software stuff. I don't know if the guy ever had access to the phone. She did say she bought a case from him b4 and i wouldn't put it past her to put it on a strangers hands in her times of frustration. She's always having problems and going to someone for help.
3. Probably
And yea I guess I'll tell her to do a hard reset. Thanks!
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RayTrue04 said:
And yea I guess I'll tell her to do a hard reset. Thanks!
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You should hard reset his face . Just kidding. Violence is not the answer. Can't we all just get along.
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Yea f that. Reset her phone and then reset that guys face
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Just check she hasn't got portable wifi Hotspot switched on on her phone.
I sometimes use that on my phone when I'm out to connect family members phones and laptops to the internet.
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this thread is exactly the kind Papa Smurf posted about...basic networking rules...the ONLY way he can intercept her wireless internet signal is if she is connected to the malls wifi... thing is i personally have programs that will allow me to spoof ANY gateway that i am connected to and collect cookies, not to mention use them. i have a program that if i connect to a server that she is connected to i can kill her internet signal... i have one also to where i can connect into her phone or computer.. bottom line... if its wireless and a public server...it becomes public info... so if she stays off the malls wifi and uses just her providers internet connection then she will be fine...unless he clones her phone which he would have to steal first .... now.. prompoting violence is childish ...its not what the forum is for...if anything reprt the guy to the police and give him a record that will ride with him...
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I'm starting to believe its possible. She just called me from her work phone to tell me she pulled out her battery bcuz it freaked her out and he asks what did she do bcuz he no longer has internet access. I might catch a case tonight I'm highly upset..
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Ok try this and check if it works.....post back the results.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gurkedev.wifiprotector
If you want it free, the developer posted a free version for XDA users here ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350941
If that Indian guy (not me ) is using android phone or PC, he surely is using apps like FaceNiff, Cain & Abel, ANTI, ettercap, DroidSheep, NetCut etc....
So this app should help but it will not work to its full potential as your Sisters phone is not rooted.
Or you can tell her to disable internet or wifi on her phone.
P.S You said the guy used to work for Sprint, Is your Sis using a Sprint Phone?
Is her phone CIQ free?
wloftus had it down.
The only other thing I can think of is he has get password to a security app that can backup pictures and whatnot.
Bottom line is this sounds like a classic harassment case. Get him to text her about this for evidence, go to the police, he gets arrested and the girl is protected by a no contact order. Pretty simple.
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this thread is exactly the kind Papa Smurf posted about...basic networking rules...the ONLY way he can intercept her wireless internet signal is if she is connected to the malls wifi... thing is i personally have programs that will allow me to spoof ANY gateway that i am connected to and collect cookies, not to mention use them. i have a program that if i connect to a server that she is connected to i can kill her internet signal... i have one also to where i can connect into her phone or computer.. bottom line... if its wireless and a public server...it becomes public info... so if she stays off the malls wifi and uses just her providers internet connection then she will be fine...unless he clones her phone which he would have to steal first .... now.. prompoting violence is childish ...its not what the forum is for...if anything reprt the guy to the police and give him a record that will ride with him...
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I've hope it's obvious that I was joking about the violence as I do think the police should get involved if this guy is harassing her. The implication from the op is that this guy is doing this from a distance so the wifi hot spot does not seem to be the way he is doing it. Since he worked for sprint, he could be using a back door of some sort.
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RayTrue04 said:
1. No
2. I know about the spy software stuff. I don't know if the guy ever had access to the phone. She did say she bought a case from him b4 and i wouldn't put it past her to put it on a strangers hands in her times of frustration. She's always having problems and going to someone for help.
3. Probably
And yea I guess I'll tell her to do a hard reset. Thanks!
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its not possible - andvwhen he works for sprint, you should go to his boss.
when he touched her mobile phone, you can go to court (when you want to)
has she enebled usb-debugging/adb access? disable it.
check all installed user apps if there is dome suspicious with ****loaads of permissions (camera, file access, microphone, etc)
lol enough to kick this guy in the ass with your rights
mnomaanw said:
Ok try this and check if it works.....post back the results.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gurkedev.wifiprotector
If you want it free, the developer posted a free version for XDA users here ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350941
If that Indian guy (not me ) is using android phone or PC, he surely is using apps like FaceNiff, Cain & Abel, ANTI, ettercap, DroidSheep, NetCut etc....
So this app should help but it will not work to its full potential as your Sisters phone is not rooted.
Or you can tell her to disable internet or wifi on her phone.
P.S You said the guy used to work for Sprint, Is your Sis using a Sprint Phone?
Is her phone CIQ free?
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She doesn't connect to public wifi shes on sprints network so i doubt that app would help. I just had her do a hard reset on it. Hopefully that helps idk.. And yes its a Sprint phone Evo 3D completely stock on the latest software htc released.
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e3d said:
its not possible - andvwhen he works for sprint, you should go to his boss.
when he touched her mobile phone, you can go to court (when you want to)
has she enebled usb-debugging/adb access? disable it.
check all installed user apps if there is dome suspicious with ****loaads of permissions (camera, file access, microphone, etc)
lol enough to kick this guy in the ass with your rights
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He no longer works for them he used to.
Well if anything I'm just tryna get his whole name because the Sprint rep last night wanted to flag him and start a case. So far only know first name so I have to wait till I go again this week.
I doubt she would enable usb debugging she's not that kind of girl to know what that is. All she do is calls, text, fb, and some web browsing at the most..
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Do any of you know anything about software at all? there is only one way to get into the phone and that is through the bluetooth. Other than that, very unlikely someone IN A MALL COULD DO THAT! there are hundreds of phones. plus, one threat like that to start off is subject to be terminated from any position he is in. HE likely got fired from sprint because he acts like he can do things he has no idea about.
However, 99.9% chance there is NO WAY the stupid small penis indian man can get into her phone. but one fact is that his face needs punched more than a few times... just make sure no one rats you out. make sure there is no one that sees you smash his face in. If the Indian doesn't learn a lesson now he'll just keep playing this game with everyone he walks into. He needs to learn one way or another.
Oh, I'm being nice too. If we were in any other country. he'd just have a bullet through his head.
However, I shouldn't even have said anything about the bluetooth part... but everyone needs to understand.. this is a topic we shouldn't even talk about. the reason is that kids that have no lives will use this information to attempt to find ways to spy on their gf's and stuff because they are low life fools.
anyway, to end this off.. I do thank everyone in here for being valued members of this forum... Remember do things responsibly. Anyone caught in here violating any law or creeping on others should be banned without question and legally should be held responsible for their actions.
to finish it completely off. the indian guy is a creep. he was fired from sprint for the same bs he doing to her. report him and have him fired again. PS. there is nothing in my comment that is racist, wrong, bad, blahblahblah. I'm a perfect little angel.
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Do any of you know anything about software at all? there is only one way to get into the phone and that is through the bluetooth. Other than that, very unlikely someone IN A MALL COULD DO THAT! there are hundreds of phones. plus, one threat like that to start off is subject to be terminated from any position he is in. HE likely got fired from sprint because he acts like he can do things he has no idea about.
However, 99.9% chance there is NO WAY the stupid small penis indian man can get into her phone. but one fact is that his face needs punched more than a few times... just make sure no one rats you out. make sure there is no one that sees you smash his face in. If the Indian doesn't learn a lesson now he'll just keep playing this game with everyone he walks into. He needs to learn one way or another.
Oh, I'm being nice too. If we were in any other country. he'd just have a bullet through his head.
However, I shouldn't even have said anything about the bluetooth part... but everyone needs to understand.. this is a topic we shouldn't even talk about. the reason is that kids that have no lives will use this information to attempt to find ways to spy on their gf's and stuff because they are low life fools.
anyway, to end this off.. I do thank everyone in here for being valued members of this forum... Remember do things responsibly. Anyone caught in here violating any law or creeping on others should be banned without question and legally should be held responsible for their actions.
to finish it completely off. the indian guy is a creep. he was fired from sprint for the same bs he doing to her. report him and have him fired again. PS. there is nothing in my comment that is racist, wrong, bad, blahblahblah. I'm a perfect little angel.
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well, you can not only go into it via wifi. so my question: do you know anything? (exploits, etc)
if the mall has a open wlan, she should use secure sites only "https://blablabla.com" only... it is possible to hijack traffic, for example in malls "man in the middle method" (do not know why i know this.... )
another way to secure her phone is, to deactivate the installation of unsigned / non-market apps.
also, a password or sth other to unlock isnt a bad idea.
so, have fun - btw, you could ask that question for every android handset, op
e3d said:
well, you can not only go into it via wifi. so my question: do you know anything? (exploits, etc)
if the mall has a open wlan, she should use secure sites only "https://blablabla.com" only... it is possible to hijack traffic, for example in malls "man in the middle method" (do not know why i know this.... )
another way to secure her phone is, to deactivate the installation of unsigned / non-market apps.
also, a password or sth other to unlock isnt a bad idea.
so, have fun - btw, you could ask that question for every android handset, op
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There are WiFi sniffing tools on android. There are WiFi spoofing tools on android.
Possibility is there, change Gmail password never hurts.
But seriously, no sharing WiFi with other people and logging into private bank/Facebook/ other sites where your logged in with 50 other people on open WiFi. That stuff can be picked up, username/passwords.
Intimidation is the best answer...big guy comes up "alright who's the yutz messing with MY sister!"
Whenever my automated system finds an Android App Review online it sends an email to the developer telling the link to the review.
Each day I get between 5 - 10 thank you mails from both large app companies and indie developers, which I guess is a good indicator that it's a great tool in order to be able to take advantage of the review in their marketing. (I know how hard it is to be seen with a good app)
The question is, how do I monetize that service?
You have to pardon me if I sound desperate, but I actually am desperate and starting to worry about my ability to provide for my family.
Do you have an idea on how I could either monetize the service, or give it away to someone who can actually afford running it?
There are three main problems with it:
- Donations doesn't work (noone evidently donates anyway, so that went down the drain)
- Advertising, might have worked but there are far too few visitors.
- Most dev's have an invalid email address specified for their account at google play, which makes them not receive the notice from the service,
They can however subscribe for reviews of a certain package name, but how the heck could they when they don't even know the service exists?
I feel so stupid for having these great ideas and realize them, just to later find out that the only thing I've gained is more time away from my kids. I am honestly starting to loose all energy for the creation process of apps, web sites and services, just due to the fact that I can't even reach out enough to make anything out of it. And I can't afford advertising the services/apps/whatever crap I've made. Which even might be an indicator that I should stop trying, but I can't really do that either since I struggle to even afford the food for the month, yeah it's gotten that bad, and I hate sounding this pathetic.
Anyway, the link is in my sig called something like 'Android App Reviews' if you wish to have a look in order to give feedback on my question.
Maybe it's just a bad day 'cause I'm not usually this whiny, but even on a good day, the question stands.
Ah.. whatever. You have a good idea, let me know.
Later
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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Thanks, actually I was very glad myself when I got an email from my own service once, so yeah I think it's a great idea also.
So yes, one problem is, as you mention that most emails probably ends up marked as spam.
The other problem is money, it's running in a very low priced environment and actually doesn't require much juice to run but I can't afford maintaining it if it doesn't generate enough income to even support itself.
I would consider running it for nothing and I could even spend some personal money just for the satisfaction and appreciation, but given the gravity of the current financial situation in my family I can't do that.
So let's just see what happens, and thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it? As i said the idea is pretty awesome and you got it pretty much nailed down. Perhaps with a few tweaks to the search algorithm it could be the next Google for Apps!
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it?
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- Actually, no I haven't tried selling it yet as I don't have any experience selling these kinds of things, and don't really know where to turn.. So I haven't really thought of for how much I should sell it for,
what do you think something like this could be worth?
Thanks again
Actually i have no idea loool
I would buy it if I had the means.
The value of it probably based on how many views does your site has per day, how many apps does it have categorized, how many it crawls per day... idk.
For example i tried searching it and it seems to have few apps catalogued... my app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rtt3ch.suecaonline) isn't there.
EDIT: About how much do you spend on it a month? If it's not much and you're willing to give it away because can't afford it I wouldn't mind getting it lol, i think i can keep it alive.
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business. The ideas you have in your first post are too linear, especially for a small website with limited exposure (i'm sure you'll know ). Websites and youtube channels grow in exposure and size exponentially. Your site is still in the growth state of a business life cycle (the slowest, most challenging phase of business), so it's best to get as much exposure as possible, which means expanding.
- Try to create some sort of quasi-partnerships with other sites by sharing content or linking to each other. I've noticed you have some links on the side of your site, but try to get in contact with 'bigger names' out there
- Create a youtube channel and start reviewing apps like that. That way you have another avenue of traffic to your site
- Reviews of products may also be an idea.
Hope this helps It's what I can remember from business studies classes >.<
sup MetalDroid, any news?
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business. Personally I'd make the homepage look more like a professional a sales page and introduce a subscription fee if you want to use it for more then one app. Or even a one time fee for more then one app. I end up logging onto my developer console several times a day so I'd gladly pay a couple bucks a month to have the reviews sent straight to my inbox.. Just my two cents
Hey!
Sorry for not posting an update, I've been having the mother of all flues on and off for the past several weeks now!
sup MetalDroid, any news?
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Well, actually yes. The associated twitter account is growing, and the number of web page visitors is also increasing. Very slowly but I'm still positive about it. I've also, shockingly, had a few interesting partnership/business proposals drop down in my mailbox, so I'm gonna have a look to see what is offered there..
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business.
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I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business
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You're right, that seems like a logical next step. I might add a low subscription fee if you wish to use for more than one app,
that seems like a very good suggestion, I'll have to wait a couple of days though to see how things turn out from some of the email proposals
I've had.
If you're interested I'll keep you updated on what happens, and I'm very grateful for your input,
Cheers
When I connected to the colleges wifi this morning I noticed a little message when I used wifi assist, I'm starting not to trust Google anymore or seems like they are shooting on us more and more each day
It's like 15 years ago and we're all suspicious of what they do.
I won't even mention Project Fi, but have you read any of Google's data disclaimers?
Can you not turn it off? It's likely just a Google VPN. They probably decided this is preferable to the alternative of letting average users connect to an open WiFi with SSID "Starbucks" that's actually someone running a WiFi hotspot in their car in the parking lot
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LOL, I am neither scared or ashamed of anything Google knows about me. In the end whats it worth?
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LOL,
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LOL, I am neither scared or ashamed of anything Google knows about me. In the end whats it worth?
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I dont mean to turn this into a big discussion but to answer your question, the data has value. In the book 1984 there were "telescreens" everywhere (devices that work as TV & camera. Sound familiar?) The point is there isnt always someone spying on you. BUT there COULD be at any given time. And when people think theyre being watched they generally behave different.
Just another way of looking at it. Because I think most people believe the way you do--theyre not breaking laws so they have nothing to hide. Its a low bar in terms of privacy which should be everyone's right.
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I dont mean to turn this into a big discussion but to answer your question, the data has value. In the book 1984 there were "telescreens" everywhere (devices that work as TV & camera. Sound familiar?) The point is there isnt always someone spying on you. BUT there COULD be at any given time. And when people think theyre being watched they generally behave different.
Just another way of looking at it. Because I think most people believe the way you do--theyre not breaking laws so they have nothing to hide. Its a low bar in terms of privacy which should be everyone's right.
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I understand, consider Google as data trade off, give and take.
You supply data to improve their services, pedestrian data, locations, etc,
They provide you the same data although compiled and applied, when you open google maps for example, and ask for directions.
The data you provide to them is not "personal" per se, but used to improve general services which every user uses and accesses.
You can always stop it.
I don't feel like this should be a surprise to anyone. Google is Google. Their data collection isn't exactly a secret. It would be naive to think the services they provide don't collect at least some data on you in some form. At the end of the day, I do value and enjoy what they provide me. I personally don't mind trading some of my privacy for it. But I do acknowledge what they are doing and I don't pretend like they're providing all these services for free because they're nice.
"Oooooh, google is monitoring my network activity. Here, let me put my all life in Facebook."
This is old news! A concern might be the intrusive big bro gov cia, nsa, fbi, hs, etc...
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I understand, consider Google as data trade off, give and take.
You supply data to improve their services, pedestrian data, locations, etc,
They provide you the same data although compiled and applied, when you open google maps for example, and ask for directions.
The data you provide to them is not "personal" per se, but used to improve general services which every user uses and accesses.
You can always stop it.
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I wasnt implying this specific case was grounds for outrage. My concern is people dont fully grasp that information is power and despite that theres a growing attitude of nonchalance . Sure you can turn it off here but you have to care, and to care you need to be informed. I dont mean purposely trading data for access to apps, features or helping to improve services. Thats different.
Id also point to the story (which should've been huge) from just a couple weeks back. Yahoo willingly allowed state sponsored hackers to access millions of user accounts. None of the customers were aware, neither the well informed nor the ones who care. And my biggest grievance with this is its not quite the breaking news it should be. The fact that many would consider me paranoid or a conspiracy theorists because this disturbs me is the most concerning part.
***I dont really mean xda members since they seem to be more knowledgeable about privacy. But the general population isnt really catching up.
Here's a link to what they mean by this message.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6327199?hl=en
The only thing Google collects through Wi-Fi assist is location and ssid/bssid. If you actually researched this stuff you are so worried about you would be a lot more concerned with what your phone carrier does with your data than Google any day of the week...
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The only thing Google collects through Wi-Fi assist is location and ssid/bssid. If you actually researched this stuff you are so worried about you would be a lot more concerned with what your phone carrier does with your data than Google any day of the week...
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Well i guess that is true but i've seen a lot of research about google and they collect everything... like the average google phone user, they let google acces to all their information/location... specailly with all those people that keep everything on like GPS. But its the same with Windows or Facebook, all those privacy settings that are by default on. Its all about the money and control over the masses... also for NSA/FBI/CIA very handy.... its not that weird to know that they have access to all those systems if they need to, thats no secret. It's all about if you got nothing to hide... everybody has something to hide. I keep tabs on all my privacy settings of all my apps as far as i can go. I accept certain privacy breaches but thats ok, thats the world we live in and i accept that. The same with people that dont mind all those freaking ads on their phone and websites..... for me mind boggeling. Especially here on xda forum, people that keep everything stock with no adjustments... first thing for me is that adaway has to work....
Here in The Netherlands, we have laws for ISP's and phone carriers, they collect but cant use it for other purposes then for criminal justice orders. Google has no laws to ibide here in Holland, they can collect en use your data unrestricted.
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When I connected to the colleges wifi this morning I noticed a little message when I used wifi assist, I'm starting not to trust Google anymore or seems like they are shooting on us more and more each day
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Its a VPN that Google provides on open WIFI Hot spots in order to ensure that your data is not being being intercepted while you're connected to that network. I have project fi and thats one of the benefits of the service, and also because a good portion of the service relies on silently connecting to google approved wifi host spots all over the country. In order to ensure your data is not at risk, because all someone would need to do is create their own wifi hotspot with the unique name that google uses and they could steal info from anyone who happened to connect to their base. As long as they forward you to the internet while the connection is active then you wouldn't even notice there was anything wrong. Google is the most benevolent corporation on the planet. I highly doubt that anyone need worry about any data they collect as I'm sure its all being used for the purposes of trying to provide new technology based on what the consumer wants and at a price that makes you wonder how they are still the top technology company in the world because they surely have to be losing money with the prices they charge for their goods and services.
So you're connecting to an open wifi AP and you're scared about your privacy?
You do know that your connection to the AP is unencrypted and by that fact, people have been spying on you for ages?
That's what I do regularly when I go in hotels and I'm bored because there's nothing on TV.