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Is their a way to see what applications are starting up and running in memory when you power on your phone, and also see what's running when you are using your phone and eating up your memory and stoping them from starting up? I"m having a problem with my memory getting eaten up and the, "Running Program List" is showing that nothing is running. As I use the phone the memory gets even lower even though nothing is showing up as running in Task Manager. I keep having running out of memory errors. When I turn off and on my phone I only have about 12MB of program memory free. If I use the phone for a little bit it gets down to 9MB or so even after I end any tasks that are running. It's becoming a real big issue. I would also like to keep ActiveSync for automatically starting up everytime I turn on the phone. Thanks for the help and time.
wow 12 on startup? Looks to me, you should first flash to a new ROM, take for example- dCd's 3.2.6 which gives roughly 25 MB on startup..
You can use MemMaid to help you see whats running on startup and you can also disable them through MemMaid. Another cool feature it has is the Registry Tweaks, Optimize it for Memory and you'll have a nice amount of RAM on startup as well
Also, Titan's been known to have memory leaks all the time, use programs like Oxios Hibernate to reclaim stale RAM, soft reset on a daily basis and you should be ok
He's already running DCD3.2.6 according to his signature.
I'd suggest posting everything you have installed along with what Today plug-ins you have running and maybe someone can help you out.
A hard reset should put you back to a blank slate if you're willing to go that far to solve your problem...
Apota said:
I keep having running out of memory errors. When I turn off and on my phone I only have about 12MB of program memory free. .
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Are you running MS Voice Command by any chance?? That program is one of the worst memory hogs I have ever seen & also has a bad memory leak so the longer it's running the worse it gets.
~John
Quick Menu is an awesome, small, free program that that shows you in the start menu which programs are running. You can also set Quick Menu to "totally close" the program when click "X" or "ok". I love this program.
I already have 3.2.6. Is there any free programs that will free up the memory? I've spent so much money on software for my phone and it's getting really expensive. I couldn't figure out where memory tweaks where to optimize for memory... I stopped a few programs from starting up and that helped just a little bit. They were the voice software that came with the kitchen and something called TaskFacade.
I'm also have a big problem with the stylus. It won't stay in the hole anymore. The second I put it in it falls out. Am I going to have to replace my whole phone? Thanks..
JokeZony0u said:
wow 12 on startup? Looks to me, you should first flash to a new ROM, take for example- dCd's 3.2.6 which gives roughly 25 MB on startup..
You can use MemMaid to help you see whats running on startup and you can also disable them through MemMaid. Another cool feature it has is the Registry Tweaks, Optimize it for Memory and you'll have a nice amount of RAM on startup as well
Also, Titan's been known to have memory leaks all the time, use programs like Oxios Hibernate to reclaim stale RAM, soft reset on a daily basis and you should be ok
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Apota said:
I already have 3.2.6. Is there any free programs that will free up the memory? I've spent so much money on software for my phone and it's getting really expensive. I couldn't figure out where memory tweaks where to optimize for memory... I stopped a few programs from starting up and that helped just a little bit. They were the voice software that came with the kitchen and something called TaskFacade.
I'm also have a big problem with the stylus. It won't stay in the hole anymore. The second I put it in it falls out. Am I going to have to replace my whole phone? Thanks..
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hm, I had the same problem with the stylus and I slipped the extra one that came with it and it stayed in place. But if that doesn't work- then it really is the phone's molding that was messed up..what you can do is put a piece of electric tape around the stylus and hope that the tape would be big enough to hold it back in place.
As for the free program, its called Oxios Memory, here's the link..I use it so much, I assigned it to one of my buttons, generally it'll clear up any stale RAM and should if anything give you back several percent- here's the link:
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As for MemMaid, just go to "Jump to" and you'll see Tweaks or something along those lines, btw Apota, check your PM
memory leak or plug in
I am using xv6800 with the mr1 upgrade
thanx jokezonyou for the link it helped and cleared 2mb for me
prob is a poss memory leak
20 mb at start up
13 mb 5 hrs later with no progs runnin
on my today screen I am using
CLAUNCH-so customizable
GOOGLE SEARCH BAR
BATTI_ battery status bar
programs I have dumped in an effort to free up pwr (really wantt them back)
SECOND TODAY
WIRESPEED-the only prgm used thru second today
RC mod- best free color modifier for wm6 I can find
a cooler fully customizable interface would be great but I have given up my search because I don't have pwr to run anything
tried memmaid and the results aren't that great for me....
I have SPB BACKUP which has a task mgr thatallows u to see runnin apps and not just programs but the numbers of usage don't add up and I don't understand what the processes are anyway
sorry so long winded I been searching everywher
overclockin not possible right?
heatd1 said:
I am using xv6800 with the mr1 upgrade
thanx jokezonyou for the link it helped and cleared 2mb for me
prob is a poss memory leak
20 mb at start up
13 mb 5 hrs later with no progs runnin
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What ROM are you running? Yes, the Titan does have a memory leak problem..as do most HTC products, the only reason we, Titan users, feel this leak so often is because we only have 64 MB of it and well..64 MB of RAM really isn't much.
What other software do you have installed on your Titan? And what do you have running at all times?
I have quite a number of programs installed...but after Oxios on startup, I have roughly 23 MB of RAM- only because I've installed some nifty programs that I really like
thanks for the quick response noobiville is a dark and cold place
ROM?
as in stock rom with mr1 update?
a simple leak explains a lot though my phone is loadeed with apps
currently i'm usin:
CLAUNCH-I have a lot of shrtcuts on my today
WIRESPEED is installed on my SECOND TODAY SCREEN I only have word mobile shortcuts on this screen
BATTI, GOOGLE TODAY SEARCH BAR, HTC (audio manager, audio boost, equalizer)
I have other prgrams but they shoudnt be part off my "activate on power up" list and are only plug-ins and shortcuts for my CLAUNCH ( I have maybe 40)
too many short-cuts and plug-ins....possible culprit?
WISH LIST:
MANILLA 2d. do I have the memory to run it?
all white theme, tsk and dailer...no lines no bars jus words and icons
heatd1 said:
thanks for the quick response noobiville is a dark and cold place
ROM?
as in stock rom with mr1 update?
a simple leak explains a lot though my phone is loadeed with apps
currently i'm usin:
CLAUNCH-I have a lot of shrtcuts on my today
WIRESPEED is installed on my SECOND TODAY SCREEN I only have word mobile shortcuts on this screen
BATTI, GOOGLE TODAY SEARCH BAR, HTC (audio manager, audio boost, equalizer)
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Well, consider flashing to dCd's 3.2.6 ROM, it has roughly 25 MB of RAM on startup, its a stripped down version of WM 6.1, if you don't like it, well you can flash back to the one you have. Of course, the only major hassle doing that is losing all the data on your phone.
Having too many programs installed is a problem as well, consider removing some programs if you don't really use it often. Like Google Search bar? Why not just turn hit the Internet explorer button, save Google as a favorite and search that way? Its roughly the same. I never used 2 Today screens, as I mainly use my phone for professional or personal use..so I never found a use for something like that, so I don't know if that's a memory hog, but does sound like one..someone should clarify this.
As for M2D with a white theme etc, it replaces your entire today screen, whether the 2nd Today screen will work, I don't know. But in general, expect M2D to take about 8-10% more of your RAM. I've used it before and for what it does, its..between worth it and not worth the 10%. It does contain a very finger friendly use, but keep in mind, it still doesn't go landscape (at least not with MBarvian's mod) and similar apps can do what it does, only it doesn't look as nice.
Try to keep your programs to a minimum- I have 13 apps on my phone, but most are for cleaning RAM or closing programs down. On startup, I am on 52% (I installed a custom dialer, boosting the RAM usage to 2MB higher, w/o it I have roughly 49%). Here's what I have:
AOL Instant Messenger (TM) 2.0
Dinarsoft MemMaid
MBarvian OpalPhone Canvas- the dialer I spoke about- its great!
Microsoft Live Search
Oxios Memory
Spb Diary
Spb Pocket Plus
Spb Weather (since it can be integrated into the Diary)
Sprint Picture Mail
Sprint TV
nueUSB to PC- allows the phone to be read as a flash drive instead of going through ActiveSync (pretty useful)
Xda-Team Task Manager
Yahoo! Go
I still have 139.49 MB free on the device and after a day's use, I have roughly 13 MB of RAM. Remember to also soft-reset everyday to reclaim the RAM you lost
memory issues
thanx for the info its puts things in perspectiv
the SECOND TODAY/WIRESPEED combo is so that I may access my current projcts in mobile word files immediately (i'm a music producer and I must get ideas down immediately)
my google bar is what I use most it makes my 40 google searches a day so much more convenient
I think my memory leak is linked to my IE...my memory doesn't start dissapearing till I have activated it
-IEcache too large?
-optimun size for cache?
I plan on using either opera or even skyfire if my RAM permits
I will try the dialer and I need nuestorage as well..so thanx
on to cookin...I have no idea what the process is like. I have insurance and I also have 2 xv6800 not in use that I can expirement on. I don't mind the reset if I come out with btter phone
I AM DUE FOR A HARD RESET JUST WAITIN TO SEE IF I'LL BE COOKIN OR NOT
read somewhere I should revert back to stock ROM b4 cooking....true?
and i've given up on animated interfaces as efficiency is most important to me...not it being cool lookin
thanx for illuminating noobiville for me..I been wandering in the dark too long
JokeZony0u:
Did you cook dcd rom without dialer then ran File name: MBarvianOpalPhoneCanvas.cab File size: 4.24 MB?
cooking
my knowledge of cooking is not to a point where i'm ready to go for it jus yet.
I am willing to expirement with my back-up unit tho
any screenshots of the dailer I just finding the cab
can I install the dailer on my already fully functionin device o should there be no dailr in my phone when I install
THANX FOR OXIOS HIBERNATE
since I have been watchin my IE I realize my prob is prolly there
I shall continue my research on cooking
Here are screenshots. http://mbarvian.freehostia.com/2008...de-applications-cab-and-oem-package-included/
I installed on top of original titan dialer and it seems to work. It looks nice. I did not get much free ram. I will probably go back to original because I want the DIAL button on screen.
heatd1 said:
my knowledge of cooking is not to a point where i'm ready to go for it jus yet.
I am willing to expirement with my back-up unit tho
any screenshots of the dailer I just finding the cab
can I install the dailer on my already fully functionin device o should there be no dailr in my phone when I install
THANX FOR OXIOS HIBERNATE
since I have been watchin my IE I realize my prob is prolly there
I shall continue my research on cooking
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heatd1 said:
my knowledge of cooking is not to a point where i'm ready to go for it jus yet.
I am willing to expirement with my back-up unit tho
any screenshots of the dailer I just finding the cab
can I install the dailer on my already fully functionin device o should there be no dailr in my phone when I install
THANX FOR OXIOS HIBERNATE
since I have been watchin my IE I realize my prob is prolly there
I shall continue my research on cooking
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Hey, I couldn't help but notice that your looking for manilla2d. I personally love it and have the titan. And yes memory can be a problem with the titan, so having m2d cooked in has been awesome. I dont' know if you have seen it but scrosler (sp) has made a ROM with dcd 3.2.6 (best kitchen imho) and added touchflo m2d to the mix. Its on this forum right below ur thread.
It is very cool in that you get to choose the majority of the apps that go with it, as he cooks them into the ROM as cabs you run, and its ready for ANY carrier. His fourth ROM os it is running nice on my titan and looks so sweet plus oxio hibernate is already cooked in to the rom too. I use IE to go to facebook all the time, and when i'm done i close it, have oxio set to a hardware button, run it and i'm back to at least 18mb again (with m2d running!!)
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It is very cool in that you get to choose the majority of the apps that go with it, as he cooks them into the ROM as cabs you run, and its ready for ANY carrier. His fourth ROM os it is running nice on my titan and looks so sweet plus oxio hibernate is already cooked in to the rom too. I use IE to go to facebook all the time, and when i'm done i close it, have oxio set to a hardware button, run it and i'm back to at least 18mb again (with m2d running!!)
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wow that's pretty sweet!
@ Flagmax: I didn't cook it into the ROM mainly because I don't really have time lately to be cookin in the kitchen, haha. Instead I just ran the CAB file and installed it.
@ heatd1: Hm..it could be a possibility that its IE that's killing your RAM. Whether its the cache size or so..I'm not quite sure..it could be a reason. A good thing to do though is, close your IE (not "minimizing" it)when you're done with it. Try using MemMaid and "Optimizing it" to see if it makes a difference on your RAM upon startup. There is a free trial before you need to purchase it- PM ME and let me know if need help with this.
As for cooking, if you're afraid of messing up the device because of a cookin' gone wrong and you want to claim insurance, you MUST flash back to the stock ROMs offered by your carrier. There have been stories of insurance companies not willing to give another device because of custom ROMs. So before you send your phone back, make sure its in a stock ROM.
The dialer on the other hand, is simply visually appealing to me. It technically has no functionality that is "needed". The slide to answer or slide to ignore is pretty neat and I like how it gives a little vibrate when it connects. On top of that, I like how it gives an option to send the caller a text message saying "I'm busy at the moment, please call me again later" (or something along those lines). I used to have Spb Phone Suite to do something like that, but now that I have this dialer, I removed it.
thanx
i'm not too worried about that too much...u can fry a phne without a kitchen trust me.. I have done it more than once.
my concerns are making sure my device is functional 24/7 I can't afford for, say, txt msging or my oulook not to work for more than 6-7 hours because I have had an incident it will cost me the lil money I make in the last days of Bush-a-nomics
have a backup phone so if gets ugly I will switch. or can use it for trial runs
my other concern is speed and functionability
don't need pretty interfaces I really just want all white screens nor nav bars no today lines no words...just icons for my today phone andevery other screen (theme gen won't do this or my favorite app RC MOD won't either)
claunch gives me the option of jus puttin icons directly onn my today
MEMMAID I have used this program often
what is the difference between the optimization for "memory" and "speed" if my phone gets slo because it doesn't have enough RAM memory
there so much inf on cooking what are the "must read before proceeding"s
I have read more threads than I wanna admit but I really need the step by step of it
from what I gather following the instructions to the letter is everything
obviously I can get long winded..sorry
i'm so anxious to leave noobiville
and you've been such a big help
did I say thanx for OXIOS?
Haha, well you're very welcome for Oxios. Giving a helping hand to a fellow xda fan is always great.
I've found from my experiences that optimizing for Memory over Speed actually starts the phone off with more RAM. You should try both and see which one works best for you.
You don't necessarily need to customize a ROM. If you find a ROM that fits your needs, than by all means just use it w/o the customizations. Its always best to just do that first before you start cooking up a custom ROM.
As to not having the bars, there's an application called nueNoBar, which will effectively remove the bottom bar of your Today screen but keeping the functionality of the softkey assignments. This app along with several other apps (that you might find handy) can be found here:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/Pocket-PC.aspx
As for having an "icon" on your today screen, consider the program: Spb Pocket Plus. It has the ability to simply "right click" on a file and "Send it to the Today Screen", effectively leaving a shortcut on the Today screen under one of its tabs. Along with that, it has the ability to let u scroll around IE like the iPhone does with finger flicking (this also applies to other places like File Explorer etc..) and also lets you open up multiple tabs in Internet Explorer. Aside from those functions, it also has a "Safe Mode" in case you ever screw up your phone and need to uninstall something when your phone crashes. All this- PLUS it adds a button mapper functionality to your phone, allowing you to map specific apps to the hardware of the phone. This program isn't free, but its a suggestion that you might find helpful. Here's the link:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/screenshots.html?en
Once again, you're very welcome for anything, and if anything..you can simply continue posting here. I check xda pretty often (as you may have noticed)
thanx
i'm not too worried about that too much...u can fry a phne without a kitchen trust me.. I have done it more than once.
my concerns are making sure my device is functional 24/7 I can't afford for, say, txt msging or my oulook not to work for more than 6-7 hours because I have had an incident it will cost me the lil money I make in the last days of Bush-a-nomics
have a backup phone so if gets ugly I will switch. or can use it for trial runs
my other concern is speed and functionability
don't need pretty interfaces I really just want all white screens nor nav bars no today lines no words...just icons for my today phone andevery other screen (theme gen won't do this or my favorite app RC MOD won't either)
claunch gives me the option of jus puttin icons directly onn my today
MEMMAID I have used this program often
what is the difference between the optimization for "memory" and "speed" if my phone gets slo because it doesn't have enough RAM memory
there so much inf on cooking what are the "must read before proceeding"s
I have read more threads than I wanna admit but I really need the step by step of it
from what I gather following the instructions to the letter is everything
obviously I can get long winded..sorry
i'm so anxious to leave noobiville
and you've been such a big help
did I say thanx for OXIOS?
Just got an HD2, and after looking for a good task manager found this awesome app TaskFacade 4. Unfortunately the dev appears to have stopped development for it, and the HD2 is just too fast for the app. I was bored, so I decompiled it (it's .net so that's easy) and made some minor fixes.
Anyway, here's what I fixed:
4.02 fixed by aussiebum (thanks aussiebum! ):
1. Fixed names of shortcuts.
2. Changed default destination directory to install on a storage card when selected.
4.02 changelist:
1. Fixed a memory leak that occurred when an app was started and closed outside of Task Facade.
2. Cleaned up Layout config page.
3. Cleaned up config file loading to minimize potential errors due to old and incompatible config files.
4.01 changelist:
1. Increased maximum number of frames for zoom-unzoom animation.
2. Added an optional sleep between frames to smooth out animation and reduce amount of resources used by the app.
3. Fixed a minor race condition which sometimes caused an updated icon to flash through just reactivated app.
Attaching latest version. Works perfectly on my HD2. Check it out.
Attaching screenshots.
YouTube video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFZHZb5cX9A
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... Thanks!
Possible to get some screens.
I usually feel that task managers drain the battery a bit. How about this one?
Added screenshots. I just got this phone, so it's hard for me to judge its impact on the battery life. I will do some experiments.
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
Mr. spacepants, why don't you fix even "klaxon" , as the source is free, because gives problems with HD2.. to dismiss/snooze an alarm needs to unlock the phone first
have original taskfacade 4 on my hd2 it works fine except for the reasons you gave for making the new one.
tried it last night and it came up with something like the settings wouldnt load. i sot reset hoping thats all it needed but it still didnt work.
then my phone started having the led blink non stop.
so i uninstalled and put the original back on.
soft reset many times and tried tweaks to get the light off and eventually it stopped.
overall the program didnt work and no idea if led was unrelated
jolas said:
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
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spacepants,
Your modification causes me the same problem.
Is it possible to make TaskFacade run as a service?
jolas said:
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
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I just tried it today. After about 20 hours of running, with many task switches gwes.exe grew from 4.73 MB to 4.85 MB. And I am not sure if this was because of the TaskFacade - I didn't see any connection between its growth and app usage.
I am pretty sure I didn't fix this. Did you use version 4 when you saw this behavior? I guess it could also be thanks to a fix made in WinMo 6.5.
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spacepants,
Your modification causes me the same problem.
Is it possible to make TaskFacade run as a service?
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Huh, strange. I am not seeing this. Do you have any repro steps? Also what are you running it on - which WM version?
lbhocky19 said:
have original taskfacade 4 on my hd2 it works fine except for the reasons you gave for making the new one.
tried it last night and it came up with something like the settings wouldnt load. i sot reset hoping thats all it needed but it still didnt work.
then my phone started having the led blink non stop.
so i uninstalled and put the original back on.
soft reset many times and tried tweaks to get the light off and eventually it stopped.
overall the program didnt work and no idea if led was unrelated
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Crap, sorry for all the trouble. I don't see how the app could have made the LED blink - it has no code that would call that API. Are you sure it's related to TaskFacade?
I am fixing the dependence of the app on the config file. It sounds like the installer didn't work for you for some reason, since it should have replaced everything.
Thanks for giving it a shot.
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Huh, strange. I am not seeing this. Do you have any repro steps? Also what are you running it on - which WM version?
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Now, I'm on WM6.5.5 (23542 build), with sense 2.5.20121225.0.
Let's say that gwes.exe is consuming 38MB before I use TaskFacade.
Right after I run TF, it raises to about 42,7MB and it keeps raising when I use new programs. There is a point above that, I loose HTC menus and standard WM menus are displaying instead.
After a few time gwes.exe stabilizes it size to about 44-45MB.
I don't know if there use some kind os issues when using TF in Touch HD, because it has the same effect with different ROMs I tested.
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Now, I'm on WM6.5.5 (23542 build), with sense 2.5.20121225.0.
Let's say that gwes.exe is consuming 38MB before I use TaskFacade.
Right after I run TF, it raises to about 42,7MB and it keeps raising when I use new programs. There is a point above that, I loose HTC menus and standard WM menus are displaying instead.
After a few time gwes.exe stabilizes it size to about 44-45MB.
I don't know if there use some kind os issues when using TF in Touch HD, because it has the same effect with different ROMs I tested.
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I think I may have found the problem, but without a way to repro the bug I can't be sure I fixed it. Looks like gwes.exe can in some cases cache images that are in use, and if you do not explicitly dispose of them, the cache keeps growing.
I am not sure why I am not seeing this on my HD2. I have a Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2 lying around here - I will see if I can get a repro with them tomorrow, and test the potential fix.
Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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It depends on which app you use to determine it: sktools separates process and heap (so the measure is lower) while, for example, memmaid keeps it together (and thus the measure is higher).
Anyway, to give an example, with Manila and iPhoneToday my gwes at startup is 13.6 mb with sktools and 42mb with memmaid
btw, i too (blackstone) have problems with TF as jolas: after a short while i lose manila menus AND TF, also if in foreground, is not visible (it's there, since if i blind click somewhere i go to a different task, but i cannot see anything)
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I think I may have found the problem, but without a way to repro the bug I can't be sure I fixed it. Looks like gwes.exe can in some cases cache images that are in use, and if you do not explicitly dispose of them, the cache keeps growing.
I am not sure why I am not seeing this on my HD2. I have a Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2 lying around here - I will see if I can get a repro with them tomorrow, and test the potential fix.
Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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Sorry, I was not very clear. When I said that my gwes.exe is 38MB, I mean at a random point (after a few hours of use), not after a soft reset.
As for the gwes.exe and caching images, I believe that you are right...
I hope you to find a solution, to make possible for me to use TF.
Thanks for your effords!!!
bbonzz said:
It depends on which app you use to determine it: sktools separates process and heap (so the measure is lower) while, for example, memmaid keeps it together (and thus the measure is higher).
Anyway, to give an example, with Manila and iPhoneToday my gwes at startup is 13.6 mb with sktools and 42mb with memmaid
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You are right! For my measure I use memmaid, after a soft reset gwes.exe is about 21MB...
bbonzz said:
btw, i too (blackstone) have problems with TF as jolas: after a short while i lose manila menus AND TF, also if in foreground, is not visible (it's there, since if i blind click somewhere i go to a different task, but i cannot see anything)
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Yes, this is exactly the problem I have, too.
Are there other HD users who face the same problem with TF, or we are the only 'lucky'?
yeah i have no idea how it would have done anything to the led but it definetly happened right after installing ?
il give the next cab a shot though and see if it installs properly
jolas said:
You are right! For my measure I use memmaid, after a soft reset gwes.exe is about 21MB...
Yes, this is exactly the problem I have, too.
Are there other HD users who face the same problem with TF, or we are the only 'lucky'?
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Strange, I still can't repro this. Tried it on a couple of Energy ROMs on my Touch Pro 2 (one based on 21898, the other on 23554) - nothing. At best I get a 50k growth in gwes.exe every time a program starts and closes. I am using Task Manager 3.1 for measurements BTW, but memmaid concurs.
OK, if this doesn't repro on my Kaiser I am going to write a quick test program and try running through the normal operations of the app several thousand times to see if that has any effect.
Could you confirm that the steps you are using to get into this state? Are they the following?
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade.
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app from TaskFacade.
6. Go to step 1.
Thanks again for trying this out, BTW.
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Strange, I still can't repro this. Tried it on a couple of Energy ROMs on my Touch Pro 2 (one based on 21898, the other on 23554) - nothing. At best I get a 50k growth in gwes.exe every time a program starts and closes. I am using Task Manager 3.1 for measurements BTW, but memmaid concurs.
OK, if this doesn't repro on my Kaiser I am going to write a quick test program and try running through the normal operations of the app several thousand times to see if that has any effect.
Could you confirm that the steps you are using to get into this state? Are they the following?
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade.
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app from TaskFacade.
6. Go to step 1.
Thanks again for trying this out, BTW.
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I want to thank you for keep searching about the problem I face.
The steps I usually do are:
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade (I have assign it to a hardware key via AEButton Plus)
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app.
6. Go to step 1.
I am grateful for your work!
If you want, I could try your test versions to resolve the problem I face.
Thank you!
What button are you assigning taskfacade to and what app are you using to do it? I tried aebuttons and it fails to map the volume up and down on the T-Mobile US version of HD2...not sure about other keys.
OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
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List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
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holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
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Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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dayv said:
To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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Recently, my keyboard has been acting crazy. Sometimes, when I attempt to type something, the letters appear in the suggested words area but nothing appears in the field in which I'm typing. I've tried switching between keyboards as a quick fix as some have recommended online but that has not worked for me. The only way I've been able to get my keyboard working again has been to reboot my phone which is a real PITA! Any solutions out there?
Also, whenever my keyboard is not working, I am also unable to make phone calls. When I click a contact's number, it populates the dialer but nothing else happens. This problem requires a reboot too. Anyone else experience this?
All of this strange behavior started within the last month or two and I don't know what happened. I've just wiped my phone and guess what? It just happened again! Please help.
I used to experience that too once in a while. It drove me crazy.
If you Google it, you'll find that it's a common issue inherent with Android devices. I believe it's related to a memory issue.
To minimize occurrences, I installed an auto memory manager. Recently, I also installed Zep's memory scripts too. Haven't had it occur since installing both (the AAM may be all you really need - available on the Market).
Hope this helps,
Flipper
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Ahh... that makes sense. I believe my problems may have started after I uninstalled the "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" app. Is the "Auto Memory Manager" app a better program to use? Pros and cons?
Photon already has it's own Automatic Task Killer, one that is not an app that you can edit or change settings. You are better off without one buddy.
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I agree... sort of.
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Photon already has it's own Automatic Task Killer, one that is not an app that you can edit or change settings. You are better off without one buddy.
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I sort of agree with deedscreen's post. Yes, the Photon does already have an automatic task killer and most of the time, it does work well. However, it doesn't work flawlessly all the time and many Photon users experiencing the keyboard lag is enough evidence to substantiate that it isn't perfect.
Now, my understanding is that an automatic memory manager is distinctly different from an automatic task killer. The memory manager supposedly works differently (I'm no developer so I'm not even going to try and explain).
Whether Auto Memory Manager is better than Auto Memory Optimizer, I can't say. I'm guessing they both work the same way so try both and see which one resolves your problems. All I know is that after installing AMM, I saw less occurrences of the keyboard lag problem popping up.
Good luck.
Hi,
This is my first time specifically posting a question as a Q&A style thread so I hope I'm doing this right.
I have been using the Redmi Note 2 for about a month now. Overall, it's been a great phone (especially considering the price). However, I've been experiencing a couple of issues and I am hoping that some of you may be able to help.
I have rooted the phone but have not installed a ROM/kernel.
I have been using Wakelock Detector to track my battery life. Of most significance is com.baidu.map.location (NetworkLocation). I have attached the two screenshots showing the frequency of how often it wakes up my device. I tried to greenify it but it wouldn't allow me - it says "Sorry, "NetworkLocation" is ingreenifiable". Does anyone have any idea for me?
I have also been trying to use Amplify as another means to try and improve battery life. As mentioned, my phone is rooted, and the app prompted me to install the Xposed app which I did. However, after installing the app, it wants me to install the framework but it does not allow me to. I have attached the screenshot of this too.
Nova Launcher - Sometimes when I open the app drawer, the resolution of the app launcher appears funny. To fix it, I normally just press back and go back into the app drawer and it goes back to normal. I have attached a screenshot of what this roughly looks like. This is not a big deal but can be a little annoying. Has anyone experienced this?
SD Maid - I used to use this app on my old Galaxy S3 i9305 to clear out storage space taken up by unnecessary stuff. This app no longer works on this phone. I have attached a screenshot of the issue that I am having.
I have downloaded Auto Call Recorder from the app store with the intention of having it automatically record my phone conversations. It does not work but I am unable to figure out why. I have checked the settings and I cannot identify any obvious setting that is incorrectly configured.
Flynx - I have been trying to use Flynx as it appears to be an incredibly useful app, but it seems something is not working correctly. In the screenshot that I have attached, where it says "Tap on the bubble to open it!" I am assuming there is a bubble that is supposed to appear for me to tap, but it does not appear.
APUS Launcher/Clean Master - finally and maybe most worryingly, I sometimes get 2 or 3 apps "pushed" to my device prompting me to install it. I can only remember 2 at the moment; APUS Launcher and Clean Master. Fortunately, I am asked to give the app permission for installation but it worries me because it has occurred a few times and I did not download it at all. I do not have a screenshot of this at the moment, but I will do it next time it occurs.
I have been told that my provider (Vaya in Australia) sends out a SMS for "automatic update" purposes. I only spotted this because I have noticed that I was charged for 2 separate international SMS on 2 occasions when I did not send them (to a UK number, +44 7786209730). I am not sure whether this one is a phone problem or something else.
I appreciate any of your assistance in advance and I am sorry if I have not provided enough information. I am also not sure as to which issues may simply be app problems as opposed to a problem with MIUI software or Xiaomi.
Hope I will be able to get some assistance!
SD Maid - I used to use this app on my old Galaxy S3 i9305 to clear out storage space taken up by unnecessary stuff. This app no longer works on this phone. I have attached a screenshot of the issue that I am having.
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Does the crash happen when the dialog opens, or when you click the orange entry?
Try giving your sdcard a name, possibly doing it from a desktop computer.
Hi, the crash happens when I click on "Overview" then click on "To start press [refresh icon]" and then you just press there - what normally happens is it will give a overall summary of the phone.
However, I have just tried it again. When that error message comes up, instead of tapping on the listed entry (as is instructed), I press "Done" and it is able to give me a summary!
So for some reason it appears as though it doesn't work (at least from the error message), and I just press done and it still works.
Thanks for your reply nevertheless! Would not have figured that out had you not replied hahaha.
If you just press "done", SD Maid won't have access to your external sdcard.
Did you try installing the Xiaomi EU rom, since it's supposed to be cleaned from chinese apps (Like the baidu one).
Hi all,
Sorry it seems like I never came back to expand what I have done to try and fix these problems.
I ended up changing to Hermes ROM here http://www.smiui.net/redminote2_hermes.php
Most of the issues above are now solved, but there are some that are still present such as #2 and #5. So Amplify still doesn't work, but I think this is a hardware limitation and Auto Call Recorder still doesn't work. As for why Auto Call Recorder doesn't work, I don't know why, but I am not greatly bothered by it so I have not attempted to do anything to resolve that problem.