Question About Cid Unlock, Help! - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

hi guys,
i just bought a used 8525 from cingular and the guy told me its unlocked, i put my sim card from tmobile and it worked, the rom is cingulars wm6, i want to know if its already cid unlocked or not, i have files for new wm6 rom from viet but its very specific, it needs a spl 1.04 to be installed but this is what i have in the bootloader screen:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-1.40.Olipro
then in the splash screen this is what i have:
M 05 R 1.54.07.00
S 04 G 32.86u.7020.23H
B 06 D 3.62
i want to know what do i have to do to install the new unbranded rom and also to know if its CID unlocked or just SIM unlocked, any help will be very much appreciated =)
this is my first phone tweak BTW...

a rom that requires a specific spl? never heard of that.....but whaever.
if i'm not mistaken, hardspl only bypasses cid.....it doesnt really makes your device supercid. i think you might be able to check for the cid level via mtty, but that may be way above your knowledge, why dont you just try running the cid and sim unlocker that's in the sticky. i would be a good "warmup" for your rom flashing.
and i can guess you next question is probably how to downgrade the spl, that info is in mrvanx's guide which is a sticky in one of these hermes subforum.

i guess, if you did put in a T-Mobile simcard into a Cingular branded 8525 and it worked, then your machine should have been CID unlocked. coz normal Hard-SPL flash only allows you to install unofficial cooked roms but not letting you use other providers' simcards.

ggerman28 said:
i guess, if you did put in a T-Mobile simcard into a Cingular branded 8525 and it worked, then your machine should have been CID unlocked. coz normal Hard-SPL flash only allows you to install unofficial cooked roms but not letting you use other providers' simcards.
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you are talking about SIM unlocking. SIM unlocking is not the same as CID unlocking. CID unlocking it wat allows you to flash roms not meant for your device. as i mentioned earlier, hardspl also allows you to do so, but harspl only bypasses CID but doesnt CID unlock.

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X01HT SPL 1.04 can not unlock, need help!!!

The original SPL is 1.09 and radio is 1.14. After payment at imei-check.uk, i got the *.unl file (i know it's not support for this phone, but just want to make a test! ). After unlock, of course it not completed, stop when check radio ver, now SPL is 1.04!!! After that i unlock it using pacth radio and Hermes_Sim_unlock_v2.2a, it's successful, but when i insert new sim, i can not input unlock key, it always say i was tried 8 (or more) times, then must wait for timeout, but after along time waiting status still not change! Use mtty for enter command AT but it stop at command AT interface ready!
Any idea?
B.R.
taihv said:
After that i unlock it using pacth radio and Hermes_Sim_unlock_v2.2a, it's successful
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It's not... on SoftBank x01ht devices post December 2nd 2006, the radio 1.14 is read only. You can downgrade the bootloader (as you already did with imei-check unlocker), you can now change the ROM using the 1.04 bootloader bug, but you can't overwrite the softbank 1.14 radio.
pof said:
you can now change the ROM using the 1.04 bootloader bug, but you can't overwrite the softbank 1.14 radio.
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That means we can flash other OS ROM and use other sim card ,isn't it?
When will X01HT of post-December be unlocked?
My X01HT has slept for one whole month,i am always waiting for new unlocker release,so i want to know when it can release,as i am a fan of WM5.
WM5 fan on this forum also has some desrie.
somatom said:
That means we can flash other OS ROM and use other sim card ,isn't it?
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You can flas other provider ROM (softbank radio 1.14 will be kept).
You can't use other simcard, only softbank.
You mean we can flash other lanauge rom on it!!! No matter the phone is unlocked or not?? Somatom, my phone also sleep in the drawer over a month, too
The original SPL is 1.09 and radio is 1.14.After downgrade and unlock with v2a,the SPL is sitll 1.09,but i put another sim card into phone,no sim lock display,but the symbol of GSM is always searching for signal.why?is it unlock or something else?
@Wai Wai: yes, by using bootloader 1.04 CID-checking bug (run ruu twice), check the wiki for more info.
@somatom: softbank devices post 2006-12-02 can't be unlocked.
Yeah~~~~~~~I try now......Please wish me good luck~~~~
My phone is 1.09. Hope it can work

Will upgrading my X01HT re-lock it?

I've got an pre-December X01HT that I originally unlocked using imei-check's unlocker, and then made SuperCID by flashing pof's radio and running his unlocker v2a.
If I run Softbank's upgrader on it, will it stay unlocked, or did Softbank figure out how to re-lock the phones with the upgrade? It's important that I be able to continue to use the phone with both my Softbank and Globe (phils.) sim cards...
Thanks,
- awh
awh_tokyo said:
I've got an pre-December X01HT that I originally unlocked using imei-check's unlocker, and then made SuperCID by flashing pof's radio and running his unlocker v2a.
If I run Softbank's upgrader on it, will it stay unlocked, or did Softbank figure out how to re-lock the phones with the upgrade? It's important that I be able to continue to use the phone with both my Softbank and Globe (phils.) sim cards...
Thanks,
- awh
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i have no idea why you used both the unlockers, but my x01ht unlocked by imei-check is still unlocked after i burn the new s/b rom. also, i believe it still has supercid since i can still switch between docomo rom and s/b rom.
apply the imei-check unlocker again, and look for welcome.exe in \windows\start up. back it up, and install it whenever you hard-reset. (i don't know if this little program is installed only on s/b rom, tho...) without this program, x01ht will give you a "wrong sim" warning pop-up even though your device is actually unlocked. it kills this sim monitoring process.
qtotter said:
i have no idea why you used both the unlockers, but my x01ht unlocked by imei-check is still unlocked after i burn the new s/b rom. also, i believe it still has supercid since i can still switch between docomo rom and s/b rom.
apply the imei-check unlocker again, and look for welcome.exe in \windows\start up. back it up, and install it whenever you hard-reset. (i don't know if this little program is installed only on s/b rom, tho...) without this program, x01ht will give you a "wrong sim" warning pop-up even though your device is actually unlocked. it kills this sim monitoring process.
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My device is also still unlocked after ungrade, but can not unlock ExtROM.
How do you do ? Is your device unlocked ExtROM ?
I think that it can not be SuperCID after upgrade, only can unlock SIM.
keiuchid said:
My device is also still unlocked after ungrade, but can not unlock ExtROM.
How do you do ? Is your device unlocked ExtROM ?
I think that it can not be SuperCID after upgrade, only can unlock SIM.
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you are right. with the s/b rom, ext rom is always locked. however, if you burn the s/b rom and then burn the docomo rom, you can see ext rom is unlockable. i can check the cid status when i am back home.
qtotter said:
you are right. with the s/b rom, ext rom is always locked. however, if you burn the s/b rom and then burn the docomo rom, you can see ext rom is unlockable. i can check the cid status when i am back home.
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Thanks.
I know that if burn the docomo rom can unlock ExtROM(I am using this one).
Do you know the way that unlock ExtROM on s/b rom ?
My friend did that on Bootloader1.09 and New radio rom. But he used pof's unlocker(v2a). I think that it is diferrent between pof's unlocker and ime-check unlocker.
keiuchid said:
Thanks.
I know that if burn the docomo rom can unlock ExtROM(I am using this one).
Do you know the way that unlock ExtROM on s/b rom ?
My friend did that on Bootloader1.09 and New radio rom. But he used pof's unlocker(v2a). I think that it is diferrent between pof's unlocker and ime-check unlocker.
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i think no one has figured out how to unlock ext rom on x01ht yet. i use the docomo rom as well since x01ht does not support a2dp.
keiuchid said:
I think that it can not be SuperCID after upgrade, only can unlock SIM.
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my cid was VODAK801. so, it was my misunderstanding that i thought my device still kept supercid after burning the s/b rom. it looks like it's been fixed to the s/b cid although i use it with the docomo rom now after unlocking by imei-check and burning the new s/b rom. interesting.
awh_tokyo said:
I've got an pre-December X01HT that I originally unlocked using imei-check's unlocker, and then made SuperCID by flashing pof's radio and running his unlocker v2a.
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i have been always thinking, somehow, that imei-check's unlocker unlocks sim-lock and changes cid status to supercid, but it does not change cid at all? is it the reason why awh used pof's unlocker after imei-check's unlocker??
Yes, imei-check unlocker downgrades to bootloader 1.04, removes SIMLock and sets the device SuperCID, but the supercid status is lost when another ROM or radio ROM is flashed.
In my unlocker, Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe makes the SuperCID stay forever once patched radio has been flashed.
qtotter said:
i have been always thinking, somehow, that imei-check's unlocker unlocks sim-lock and changes cid status to supercid, but it does not change cid at all? is it the reason why awh used pof's unlocker after imei-check's unlocker??
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Yes... I only applied pof's unlocker recently. Before, I never found the need for supercid, since I could just drop down to bootloader 1.04 to put a different rom on... But now the newest roms can't be unlocked if the device is not supercid.
Well, I'm going to hold on until the bitter end, will apply Softbank's rom on 3/31 if nobody has come up with the new password at that point...
awh_tokyo said:
Well, I'm going to hold on until the bitter end, will apply Softbank's rom on 3/31 if nobody has come up with the new password at that point...
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i agree and that's the best way to go for now. i'll do the same.
pof said:
Yes, imei-check unlocker downgrades to bootloader 1.04, removes SIMLock and sets the device SuperCID, but the supercid status is lost when another ROM or radio ROM is flashed.
In my unlocker, Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe makes the SuperCID stay forever once patched radio has been flashed.
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now, i understand... well, i have lost a chance to run pof's unlocker to make my x01ht to keep supercid for good since i have burnt the new s/b rom once. on the other hand, it could be the reason why they had mine repaired since someone who used pof's unlocker got rejected by s/b to have his x01ht repaired... it's catch 22...
I did
I could unlock ExtROM on X01HT(Upgrade to New ROM=1.33.761.4, Radio ROM=1.14.00.10, Protocol=32.50.7018.00h).
I did as follow's way:
1. simunlock by imei-check unlocker.
2. Burn the Docomo rom.(=already unlocked ExtROM)
3. use pof's unlocker(maybe make device SuperCID)
4. Upgrade rom with RUU_X01HT_1.33.761.4.1.14.00.10
5. Now I can use docomo sim and softbank sim, also can unlock ExtROM.
keiuchid said:
I could unlock ExtROM on X01HT(Upgrade to New ROM=1.33.761.4, Radio ROM=1.14.00.10, Protocol=32.50.7018.00h).
I did as follow's way:
1. simunlock by imei-check unlocker.
2. Burn the Docomo rom.(=already unlocked ExtROM)
3. use pof's unlocker(maybe make device SuperCID)
4. Upgrade rom with RUU_X01HT_1.33.761.4.1.14.00.10
5. Now I can use docomo sim and softbank sim, also can unlock ExtROM.
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Just to make this clear... which rom did you have when you ran the imei-check unlocker?
To unlock ExtROM device must be SuperCID, to make it SuperCID device must have a flashable radio, so obviously he was running the rom PRE december 2nd with 1.06 bootloader on it.
thanks pof. that's what i thought but wanted keiuchid to make it clear to everyone as it could confuse some people that it could be done with the post 12/2 rom.
pof said:
To unlock ExtROM device must be SuperCID, to make it SuperCID device must have a flashable radio, so obviously he was running the rom PRE december 2nd with 1.06 bootloader on it.
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Yes, you are right.
excause me , can anyone tell me how to check is it the superCID or not .. ?
@keiuchid' quote ---
I did as follow's way:
1. simunlock by imei-check unlocker.
2. Burn the Docomo rom.(=already unlocked ExtROM)
3. use pof's unlocker(maybe make device SuperCID)
4. Upgrade rom with RUU_X01HT_1.33.761.4.1.14.00.10
5. Now I can use docomo sim and softbank sim, also can unlock ExtROM.s quote:
questions:
on step2- did you get the rom docomo rom from the wiki hermes ROM upgrade link list and what SPL value at the time?
on step4- after the upgrade softbank rom, what is the SPL
on step5- how do you able to use docomo and softbank sim and unlock the extrom - because if you have now the softbank SPL 1.09 and radio rom 1.14, you should not able to unlock your SIM. please explain. thanks in advance.
(may be i'm missing something here)
Please note that keiuchid's X01HT was sold Previous December 2nd, this is the most important, otherwise he could not have done it.
otoro_315 said:
on step2- did you get the rom docomo rom from the wiki hermes ROM upgrade link list and what SPL value at the time?
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SPL on his original rom was 1.06, then he applied imei-check unlocker, so the SPL downgraded to 1.04. After this he applied the DoCoMo ROM found in the wiki, which has SPL-1.04.
otoro_315 said:
on step4- after the upgrade softbank rom, what is the SPL
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On this step the SPL is upgraded to 1.09, but he purchased imei-check unlocker, so he can downgrade it to 1.04 at any time, by just applying the unlocker.
otoro_315 said:
on step5- how do you able to use docomo and softbank sim and unlock the extrom - because if you have now the softbank SPL 1.09 and radio rom 1.14, you should not able to unlock your SIM.
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His X01HT simlock was removed on step 1, and Flashing a ROM does NOT re-lock it. So, once SIM-Unlocked, it's SIM-unlocked forever.
His device was made SuperCID with Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on step 3, he applied it while running the 1.16 patched radio, so his device will be SuperCID forever.
After this he flashed Softbank's ROM with "read only" radio, now he has a Sim-Unlocked and CID-Unlocked device, where he can switch ROMs and put any provider's SIM to his liking, but he will keep the Softbank 1.14 radio ROM at least until we see any ROM upgrade which is able to overwrite this radio ROM (which is not available yet).
Hope this makes the situation clear to you all

Is it possible to downgrade X01HT from 1.09 to 1.04?

I had read many post here these few days and got so confuse.
I read in some post that reply from you and get this message,
please correct me if I am wrong.
If I buy a X01HT with 1.09 bootloader now,
Is it possible to downgrade to 1.04 use HERMES Bootloader 1.01 MFG?
After I downgrade to 1.04 then I can use your SIM UNLOCK v2a program
to SIM UNLOCK and CID UNLOCK. Also I can upgrade the radio and
ExtendedROMs to other language. Am I got the right message or wrong?
Thank You for answer my question!!
Mike
hokkeung said:
Hi pof,
I had read many post here these few days and got so confuse.
I read in some post that reply from you and get this message,
please correct me if I am wrong.
If I buy a X01HT with 1.09 bootloader now,
Is it possible to downgrade to 1.04 use HERMES Bootloader 1.01 MFG?
After I downgrade to 1.04 then I can use your SIM UNLOCK v2a program
to SIM UNLOCK and CID UNLOCK. Also I can upgrade the radio and
ExtendedROMs to other language. Am I got the right message or wrong?
Thank You for answer my question!!
Mike
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you can down to 1.04, but u can't get supercid, so u can't get Bootloader 1.01 MFG, and u can't flash other radio or OS.
i think.
If you want to discuss with one member only, please PM that person. If not, don't start thread with "To <member>:" You're only hurting yourself since doing this can limit the hits (people will ignore because title doesn't include them).
answer to your question: no, MFG solution is only available for SuperCID devices.
Sleuth255:
Thanks for your advance, coz Im new here.
So what is SuperCID? How I can know my mobile have SuperCID or not?
If not, how can I change to SuperCID?
Thanks!
"The CID is a string that identifies carrier and language of your device, it is contained also on ROM upgrade files and is used to check that you're flashing your device with the right ROM."
So SuperCID allows things from a different carrier to be flashed to your device without needing your specific vendor updates.
Connect to your device in bootloader mode through mtty.exe and issue the 'info 2' command. Do not copy and paste commands into mtty.
Links:
CID Info and other info.
Bootloader info and usage.
Hermes Wiki (95% of questions are answered in here)
Your method can work on bootloader 1.09?
If yes, after I change to mobile to SuperCID, then I can downgrade to 1.04,
right? And then I can upgrade the Rom, radio also?
I'm pretty sure that there's no SuperCID solution yet for your phone. I know you can unlock with the IMEI-check unlocker and I believe that takes you back to BL1.04, but you can't get to SuperCID since pof's custom radio won't flash on yours due to the radio bootloader yours has. Here's a link to a thread on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290228
You can make x01ht post dec-2nd SuperCID by paying imei-check unlocker. This will downgrade your bootloader to 1.04 too. After that you can flash 1.01 MFG if you want, and also unlock your ExtROM. To flash other radio you'll need to upgrade the bootloader to 1.09 again and use a radio in NBH format (shipped 1.27 for example). Your radio bootloader can't be downgraded and you can't flash extracted radio roms. That's all
To be simple, Post Dec X01HT can only be unlocked & superCID by IMEI-CHECK (NO FREE METHOD at the moment), better pay if you need the phone function.......
Ahhh... so the new IMEI-check unlocker also does SuperCID. Damn.... How'd they get their custom radio flashed I wonder? That's good news for users of this phone!
You said I can't update the Extracted Radio ROM, that mean I need to download this file "RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe", right? Is it the post 2nd-Dec X01HT problem, even I downgrade to B/L 1.04, I still can't upgrade the Extracted Radio ROM? One more thing, how can I upgrade to B/L 1.09 again?
Thanks
Anyone can help?
Thanks!
hokkeung said:
I need to download this file "RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe", right?
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Yes.
hokkeung said:
Is it the post 2nd-Dec X01HT problem, even I downgrade to B/L 1.04, I still can't upgrade the Extracted Radio ROM? One more thing, how can I upgrade to B/L 1.09 again?
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Yes, it's forced by radio bootloader 0108, you can upgrade to SPL-1.09 to flash radios in NBH, read more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290228&p=1117426
Unlock CID
HELP!!! dont want to send phone to service centre. Spl 1.01 mfg which is cid locked which means i cant upgrade bootloader to spl1.04 to flash a OS rom plus active sync does not connect whilst in bootload which most of the cid unlocking tools out there require a active sync connection. any way to cid unlock?

question -- SIM unlock/SuperCID the Softbank X01HT

okay, being a newbie to the Softbank X01HT, I went through the forums, FAQs, and Wiki as much as I can...
anyway, i checked with imei-check in regards to unlocking my SIM; however, their method unlocks the SIM, as well as SuperCID the device. from what i undertand - SuperCID the device would void the warranty, correct?
this being the case, if i do use imei-check, is there a way to "undo" the SuperCID?
similary, i can also use a process that only unlocks the SIM, ie., pof's free unlocker... however, as ive read, this is NOT compatible with Softbank X01HT models released after December 2006. right?
in this case, are there any other ways to unlock the SIM?
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on the other hand, all i need is to unlock the SIM (no need for a SuperCID) - if there are people out there who have a better idea in going about this, please teach me...
thanks in advanced...!!!
PS: here is my Softbank X01HT
ROM: 1.33.761.4
ROM Date: 11/10/06
Radio Version: 1.14.00.10
As far as I know once you supercid it can't be reversed. I believe that if you use the hard-spl to flash, supercid isn't required anymore.
Now onto the unlocking the sim. I'm also a little bit confused on the options available. Please one of the gurus here step in and offer an explanation
garydempsy said:
As far as I know once you supercid it can't be reversed. I believe that if you use the hard-spl to flash, supercid isn't required anymore.
Now onto the unlocking the sim. I'm also a little bit confused on the options available. Please one of the gurus here step in and offer an explanation
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the way i would understand is that if imei-check.co.uk unlocker is used, there arent any issue or problems. can anyone confirm/verify this?
however, for my needs at least - all i need is for my X01HT to be SIM unlocked. i dont need it to be SuperCID, nor i need to flash any other ROM. and unfortunately, imei-check cannot do this (there are NO options for a SIM unlock-only, or a SIM unlock and SuperCID)...
i hope any of the gurus here can help, or at least confirm this understanding...
old X01HT can perfectly unlocked by V3.
how do you know the date about your X01HT produced?
lyerx said:
old X01HT can perfectly unlocked by V3.
how do you know the date about your X01HT produced?
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well, if you look at the System Info tag in Settings you'll see a date... mine is at:
>ROM: 1.33.761.4
>ROM Date: 11/10/06
>Radio Version: 1.14.00.10
Just for clarification:
imei-check temporarily SuperCIDs your device, you lost the SuperCID status when you flash another radio on it.
With the 1.16 patched radio included in my unlocker you also temporarily SuperCID the device, then you have to run the exe file on your Hermes which will let you choose if you just want to SIM-Unlock or both (do the SuperCID sticky forever). If you don't choose the SuperCID option, then the SuperCID status is lost when you flash another radio on it.
I have had reports of people unlocking without problems X01ht devices with v3, but some others reported they can't boot OS after unlocking, and as I can't test it I put the warning, so do it at your own risk.
Anyway, I'm planning to release a new unlocker version soon
pof said:
Just for clarification:
imei-check temporarily SuperCIDs your device, you lost the SuperCID status when you flash another radio on it.
With the 1.16 patched radio included in my unlocker you also temporarily SuperCID the device, then you have to run the exe file on your Hermes which will let you choose if you just want to SIM-Unlock or both (do the SuperCID sticky forever). If you don't choose the SuperCID option, then the SuperCID status is lost when you flash another radio on it.
I have had reports of people unlocking without problems X01ht devices with v3, but some others reported they can't boot OS after unlocking, and as I can't test it I put the warning, so do it at your own risk.
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thanks for the reply, pof...
on the other hand, what do you mean by "temporarily SuperCIDs..."...? would it mean that the device is still registered to Softbank and at the same time you can flash another ROM?
all i want though is just have my device SIM-free so i dont have to deal with exorhbitant roaming rates when travelling abroad... not much privy with playing with other ROMs, yet; as well as not wanting to void my warranty.
Anyway, I'm planning to release a new unlocker version soon
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really? what would be the new stuff that youd be adding in?
I am an owner of a BEFORE DEC. model X01HT and sim unlock&SuperCID by pof's v2a unlocker.
Since April is coming, I have to update the rom to use the net according SB. I wonder if the sim-unlock will remain after I update. i hope so sadly.
I, TOO, don't mind the SuperCID.
Anyway, thank pof ad waiting for the new unlocker.
ps: if i use another sim card other than SB, I can use WIFI or BT only about two minites continiously. then it will be disconnected automatically. Anyone else has same experience? I use SB_USIM to avoid the annoying popup.
I submit this post via my X01HT.

Unlocked

Hi, if I Update my HTC and this is unlocked. ¿I lose this condition?
thanks
Depends on what ROM you flash! You will have to CID unlock your device first anyway! Even though your HERMES might be SIM unlocked (meaning you can use any SIM card in there) it is still CID locked which keeps you from flashing with any ROM you want to ...
But however, even if your phone gets SIM locked after a flash: you always can SIM / CID unlock your phone again using the HERMES_UNLOCKER!
PLease read carefully UNLOCKING for BEGINNERS in the WIKI HERMES SECTION!
the phone will not become simlocked again.
the CID can be changed if you wish, or bypassed by using Hard-SPL or SSPL.
the new CustomRUU, once universally adopted will ensure people not bothering to use Hard-SPL (which is somewhat idiotic) can flash without issue.
thank's for your advices,
my last question.
I have SPL-1.09 ds, I want update whit SCHAPS WM6 (multilingual), just follow the manual and all right, or i need to do something more.

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