I found the 20 keys keypad on CNN.CN
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A good try would be to adapt this keyboard on a 16 keys niki and see if it works.
As anyone tried something likely or has an opinion on this ?
Thanks and keep up the good work, I'm often just watching these theads
I am absolutely willing to try it,
is this only this only the keys or the electronics included (switches etc.) ?
I can't see any connectors ...
Additionally, i think there must be some kind of software mod so that the operating system nows the right keyboard layout to apply.
Or are they compatible ? (i.e. can you flash the same rom on 16 and 20 key models and os switches automatically ? ..)
Did someone open the Niki before ?
I'm absolutely willing to try yo as soon as i get an azerty keyboard (e.g. french and not us
I would be very interested to know if this is possible.
AFAIK the software on 16 / 20 key versions is identical, ie. a rom from a 16key device can be flashed on a 20key and the keyboard works fine.
I suppose what we need now are disassembly shots of the Nike showing the keyboard in detail.
...
Don't think it will work.
In the NAND are so many references about the 16Key or 20 Key version.
I bet it would be possible. Theoretically, all you would have to do is replace the keyboard and then re-map the keys under the keypad. Unless the buttons under the keypad are layed out differently of course.
I'm sure there is software somewhere that could do this.
Has anybody tried it??
Nixu
From my understanding, the drivers for the 16 key Nike and the 20 key Nike are included in every ROM so it should only be a matter of instructing the ROM which driver to use for the keyboard and replacing the actual keypad with the 20 button one and you should be set.
I lucked out. The Nike I bought off ebay is already a 20 button model so this doesn't really apply to me but I think this is an interesting project.
EDIT:: After doing some more digging it doesn't seem this will ever work.
Here is a photo of the 16 key and also a photo of the 20 key. As you can clearly see, the buttons on the left and right of the key are larger(twice the size) of the ones on the left and right side of the 20 key so that means that the ribbon cable under the keypad would need to changed and then someone would have to figure out a way to get the device to recognize the new ribbon. This shouldn't be too much of an issue as seeing as how ALL ROMs have both drivers.
ok...i can confirm, hardware is different...argh
just ordered an oem keyboard...
ok...i have the 20key keyboard now, just installed it, booted into wm, QW launches internet explorer ,AS launches start menu (like the 16key version), L is backspace, ZX is message, OP DEL ENTER ALT doesn't do anything. so i hard reset the dual, and after that the same thing still happens
any ideas, anyone?
...
we played with the PID (product information Digit) and it loaded some
different keyboard layouts. u should be able to patch this xD but u need time, to find out what u have to patch...
The other thing is... after booting in the OS there was the right Keymapping,
i think u only have to patch the keypad driver^^
Valvarin said:
we played with the PID (product information Digit) and it loaded some
different keyboard layouts. u should be able to patch this xD but u need time, to find out what u have to patch...
The other thing is... after booting in the OS there was the right Keymapping,
i think u only have to patch the keypad driver^^
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ok...can you tell me how? or point me to somewhere that talks about this. i am still quite new to windows mobile (only really started you use my touch dual for about a week, never used wm before...always been a palmos user)
just to try my luck, i reflashed the rom (tom's rom, v2.1.3, WWE) but that doesn't help. the keymapping is still wrong.
thank you very much!
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Moved to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1513275
What The F no one tried your ROM?
Fricking idiots.
Have you made any progress with new cooks?
Just trying to encourage the felow portugese.
The link is not working?
Hi there,
Because of the inactivity of the file, it was automatically deleted from SendSpace... anyway, I did try to integrate some of the applications of the touch to WM5, but many of them don't work out-of-box. There are some fixes to that (which I intend to put on a ROM I'm cooking), for the home plugin for example.
I'm working on the last AKU 3.3 from T-Mobile official ROM, so it will be clean, touch driver enabled (just the scrolling with fingers). The cube and home plugin are kinda useless to me...
erm, i didn/t see that post earlier, tell me, how can i cook wm5 custom rom?
i made very customised, optimised wm06(23 mb of custom apps, 34 mb mem free etc..), now - i am thinking about wm05 treated same way..i am wondering about possibilities of making same thing with wm05...
what can i use to cook? molski's method only?
I used Core kitchen It works with WM5 ROM's too
can you re up!
rustylorcin said:
can you re up!
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Just wait a few days... I'll improve the ROM, then release it!
dferreira said:
I used Core kitchen It works with WM5 ROM's too
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hahaha, really? that's GREAT
Thanks a lot for that info!
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Comments and what can I do
Go and get it
i realized, that is not wm06.
you surely did a good job.
(i can't test, because i do not like touch soft, but it is impressive indeed).
Noonski said:
What The F no one tried your ROM?
Fricking idiots.
Have you made any progress with new cooks?
Just trying to encourage the felow portugese.
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indeed, strange :S
nothin said:
i realized, that is not wm06.
you surely did a good job.
(i can't test, because i do not like touch soft, but it is impressive indeed).
indeed, strange :S
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Thanks
The only Touch Soft that is in there is the home plugin, commanager and the dialpad. You can remove them (I made the instalation via Extended Rom ) if you like.
The touch driver (the new driver for the touchpanel so that you can scroll with fingers, instead of using stylus), is embeded with the OS
I have to remove PCM Keyboard from the ROM cause it's time limited. Although we can remove it and update it, tene the keyboard dev has requested to remove it from the ROM. As requested, I'll remove it, then if you wish, you can install it in your device.
dferreira said:
Download here: ...still, a lot of work to be done...
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Looks good!
I'd like to try the touch i/f as my Stylus doesnt stay in the Wizard anymore. What is the reported OS version? I have to hack it because I want to use Blackberry Connect.
Does it show the current network youre on, instead of a carrierlogo, in the dialer (by default the TMO AKU3.3 ROM doesnt, this should be in)
Does it have smartdial? (should be in)
What pagepool does it have? (I'd like 8MB)
Where is the link to the download (P2P would do too)?
WM5 SE
Hello can you give me the link ,i will install this on mine G4 CID unlock
Please!
wippi
Here it is
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h1c8ad
1-I'd like to try the touch i/f as my Stylus doesnt stay in the Wizard anymore.
2-What is the reported OS version? I have to hack it because I want to use Blackberry Connect.
3-Does it show the current network youre on, instead of a carrierlogo, in the dialer (by default the TMO AKU3.3 ROM doesnt, this should be in)
4-Does it have smartdial? (should be in)
5-What pagepool does it have? (I'd like 8MB)
6-Where is the link to the download (P2P would do too)?
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1- The touch driver is working
2- OS 5.1.195 build 14955.2.3.0 -> it's based on AKU 2.3 Wizard's Love ROM, I intend to upgrade this ROM to AKU 3.3, which comes with a lot of new features and fixes.
3- Yes, its without the carrier logo, only the name.
4- Yes and no. For some reason, it only works until you softreset your phone... my guess is this issue will not be present on updated AKU.
5- Pagepool is 6MB, but on later version I'll make it 12MB so that the ROM flys!
6- Its on the first post and here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/h1c8ad
Please read the first post for instructions
You can always dump the one i just made and work from there. integrating all these applications will be easy.
V2 ROM CE OS 5.2.21051 (Build 21051.1.6.4)
NEW rom WWE and RUS for our Touch Dual Neon200!
This ROM needs Neon Hard SPL - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
WWE version ready.
I not have screenshot WWE version, please make it.
WWE version 21051 ready
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Link:http://www.4shared.com/file/107831483/43af666b/Neon200_jony_aa_V1.html
Link WWE:http://www.4shared.com/file/107889782/848af15a/WWE_Neon200_jony_aa_V1.html
Link WWE/RUS Kitchen:http://www.4shared.com/file/112638552/59544344/Kitchen_neon200_jony_aa.html
Link WWE V2:http://www.4shared.com/file/112992547/e47ecc9a/WWE_Neon200_jony_aa_V2.html
Looks nice.
I will be waiting for the WWE version to try this out...
Very nice Rom, very feature packed. Thank you very much
Can anyone adapt this ROM for nikes?
I love the way this ROM looks and the fact it uses very little memory (~20Mb). Too bad I have a NIKI100 and not a NEON.
Can anyone adapt this ROM for nikes?
Fantastic! I'm downloading it now.
Thanks for your hard work!
Been using it all day, just love it. Thanks again.
The only problem I have run into so far, is that the Opera browser is in Russian. The pages display in English, but all of the menu text is Russian. Is there a way to fix that?
Hey,
No it is (Opera) stuck in Russian for me as well, Also when I go look at my battery, reception etc it also has Russian text on top.
Also AudioManger / WMP stop playing music when I turn off the screen to save battery.
Other then that it is probably the best neon rom out there at the moment.
Thank's again Jony_aa for cooking this one.
Well, coming soon new version with bug fixed.
Other bugs
I have run into a problem that has me a little perplexed. The Rom will run great for a little while, and then for some reason, none of my apps are available, even the ones cooked into the Rom. I don't know yet what is causing it but after the programs dissapear and I try to soft reset, it does a hard reset and I have to start all over again. Does any one have any idea how to fix this?
I don't know what I did, but I flashed another ROM for a couple of days and then flashed back to this one. I have not had any problems since. I must have messed something up in the first flash and some how fixed it when I flashed back and forth. I have now been using this ROM for the passed three days and am very happy with it. I can't wait untill the next one comes out without all of the Russian (not that I have anything against Russion, but I can't read it, lol).
Great Job, you are definatly a credit to the cooking community!
Not to be pushy, but can we expect to see an update of this ROM? I love using it, but the Russian in some of the apps is sometimes a little frustrating.
Wow, I have been away for a while. Nice to see someone else cooking for NEON.
I have WM6.5 build 21500 running on my NEON200 at the moment - it runs really well, far more finger friendly.
Unfortunately I have never been able to fix the camera button or hardware keyboard issues that I had in my old NEON200 ROM. The best I had with the hw keyboard was I got it working, but could not get the on screen keyboard to display (it was invisible). The camera button I can live without.
I haven't installed this ROM, but can someone advise me whether the keyboard and camera button issues are sorted out with it? If so, perhaps I can get in touch with jony_aa and fix my problems.
Hey,
The camera button works and so does the keyboard.
It is a pretty solid rom.
All the problems the camera button and the keyboard connected to the fact that you are using the XIP from NIKI, and I ported XIP from the official ROM for Neon200.
My Kitchen: http://www.4shared.com/file/112638552/59544344/Kitchen_neon200_jony_aa.html
Another great rom johnny_aa.
Really fantastic and I think there is only Russian in the shortcut phrases for the finger keyboard.
Really appreciate your hard work.
Neon 200
which of the links is a WWE?? i want to update my neon 200. Please reply..
waiting for best wm6.5 for neon200....
Good day jony_aa!
i am flashing my neon 200 Telstra you russian version Neon200_jony_aa_V1.rar, and after I have the camera when you press the black screen, and the camera does not work at all, and when re-programmed back firmware RUU_NEON_Telstra_WWE_1.06.841.17_2_.exe, then in the end the camera works without problems.
I guess the camera driver DIFFER FROM NIKE, And Maybe I was wrong Do not tell where or what, I was just wondering.
Do not tell what to do? I just searched through the entire internet in search of the Russian version of Windows on this phone, and only found here, and unfortunately not fully working.
Added later:
But I, repairman, and therefore repeated again:
I was very sorry later reprogrammed the phone again, and lo and behold - the camera work, the first time probably did not happen, so now I think my hands are curves.
Many thanks jony_aa!!!
All the best!
Sorry for bad english - I am writing an interpreter.
Windows Mobile 6.5
OS 23052
English
UPDATED!!!!!!!!
I'm back guys. Here is my new English WM6.5 ROM.
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Release Notes:
-Initial Version:
_-Build is 23052
_-Language is English
_-CHome version
Bugs:
-No bugs found till now
How to flash my ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3779969&postcount=2
Donations:
-No Donations till now. Fell free to donate.
Credits:
-Da_G for the Builds
-CRACING for helping me and for his kitchen
-Cyberdel for some tips
-All others I have forgotten
Reserved for future use 2
Reserved for later too
Hi ChrBeck,
I've been waiting for a new WM 6.5 ROM and this looks very good. I'll try it this evening and let you know how it goes And last: Welcome back
Yes thanks guy. Hope you won't find too many bugs. There are some with some popups that are still VGA so you don't need to report that I already know it.
Have fun with my new ROM.
ChrBeck said:
Yes thanks guy. Hope you won't find too many bugs. There are some with some popups that are still VGA so you don't need to report that I already know it.
Have fun with my new ROM.
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Hi. I have found a bug. The device rebuting all time after installing SPB keyboard (even does not start fully)
Regards
Konstantin82
Hi. Button "Send message" in messaging not working.
@konstantin: That seems to be a build problem I can't fix. Try a different keyboard.
@dvc:Edit2: OK it doesn't seem to work here too. The problem is caused by a part of my OEM. I've removed it and will release a fix soon.
OK at all. I'll fix the send button with a new version. But cause I don't want to change everything for just one fix I'll keep the version number.
Update is aviable now here. (It is named like the old file).
ChrBeck said:
@konstantin: That seems to be a build problem I can't fix. Try a different keyboard.
@dvc:Edit2: OK it doesn't seem to work here too. The problem is caused by a part of my OEM. I've removed it and will release a fix soon.
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I tried resco keyboard. It does not work to.
Maybe problem problem in that there is not tuning of input in a menu?
Hi ChrBeck,
I've been testing this new ROM and found nothing wrong. It's very good, thanks for it.
What's new in the update? Only Send button?
One question, how to switch between virtual keyboars? The little arrow for selecting keyboars in not there.
switch Keyboard
Hi Blekota.
i use the wm6.5 rom from cyberdel.
to switch the keyboard tap and hold the keyboard button, then popup a select menu.
have a nice day.
Now I've found a bug. In Settings|Connections|Network Cards|Remote NDIS - I cannot write correct IP address. I need to write 3 digits in each box, but 2 digits are only allowed
One more bug is in camera. It's upsidedown in preview and taken pictures are also upsidedown.
Don't know about 3rd party keyboards but I'll check.
You can change the keyboard like ramrod described before but because I removed transcriber there is nothing to choose.
The bug in settings is something I can't fix too that is a build problem.
The camera problem can be fixed simple. I'll do that today.
Hope the rest is ok.
OK guys I've uploaded a version with the camera fixed.
Number is V0.1.1
Thanks for camera fix
I have a problem switching keyboards. I installed another keyboard, but when I long press keyboard button and tab on my new keyboard in list, nothing has changed. The keyboard is still the default one.
Blekota said:
Thanks for camera fix
I have a problem switching keyboards. I installed another keyboard, but when I long press keyboard button and tab on my new keyboard in list, nothing has changed. The keyboard is still the default one.
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so please repair it, and will be super-rom
Well as I said before. The problems with the keyboards is a Build problem. I'm searching for a fix but it doesn't look like I can fix it. So please stop requesting a fix for it. I'm already working.
Maybe problem with keyboard arose up after transcriber deleting?
Here is my ROM with MaxSense. It isn't final version. It is RC version yet!
Included:
- WM 6.5.3 build 21667 WWE
- HTC Sense 2.5 build 2016
- Max Sense 1.05
Free storage: 204 MB
Free RAM: 70,5 MB
After flash you must set this:
1) Go to Start -> Settings -> Home -> Items and enable HTC Sense
2) Soft reset your device.
3) Now you see MaxSense Set your wallpaper (960x800px), one is in My Documents. To have clock, weather and etc. you must set widgets in MaxSense settings.
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If you need original WM settings, you go to Start Menu and here is item "WM Settings". I add it into ROM because in MaxSense isn't All settings which links to original WM settings .
Download: Kubino's MaxSense Edition RC
If you find some bug/problem please tell me about it. Thanks.
Reserved for future.
I sit on the bench...
nice,I LIKE
at last !
Wow at last it is out! WOOTS !
finally, thx kubino, will try and let you know if any bugs...
very strange...i flashed the rom but cannot even use the win. menu, and pop up says "this concludes the beta release of this software ...etc" !!! time bomb ??? how to get rid of it?
OMG! It's really very strange, I flashed yesterday evening and no problem...timebomb should be removed. I tried hardreset and still no problem.
Try hardreset...
Anyone who tried this ROM have same problem?
Kubino said:
OMG! It's really very strange, I flashed yesterday evening and no problem...timebomb should be removed. I tried hardreset and still no problem.
Try hardreset...
Anyone who tried this ROM have same problem?
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already had hardreset twice when i posted this message
Giant try patching up the rom again if there is still a timebomb do a clean boot
giantcobra said:
very strange...i flashed the rom but cannot even use the win. menu, and pop up says "this concludes the beta release of this software ...etc" !!! time bomb ??? how to get rid of it?
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so is the rom even usable at all?
im thinking of flashing this but now having second thoughts....anyone else tried?
I flashed today, after 2 reboots max sense seems to work, but i cant use the dialer. I dont recommend the rom yet.
hi kubino! great attempt! I've just flashed this rom on my phone!
for some reason, i dun get the time bomb issue..
also here are some bugs so far..
when i select tabs menu from HTC Settings, the tabs arent in english but some other language..
also when i press the home (square) hardware key, the original windows taskbar appears...
Nice work Kubino! ^^
But I have a little problem. :SD The backgroung picture's qualitiy is quite low, even if I set it to high. It annoys me. Can i do something?
ok ive flashed this rom.
some problems ive found...
when i close a program(coreplayer,file explorer) by tapping the X at the bottom right, the program is actually still running...
another big problem-sms
in the big text field where theres written 'Tap here to add text' i tapped on it and nothing happens...tap again and it exits and goes back where i was before...
theres potential but needs some improvements.
anyway good effort kubino. pls make it better.
another little problem- the clock widget.
i tap on the clock and nothing happens. i expected to get to the time settings screen...
for dialer problem you can just have a quicklink for the "phone" shortcut=]
and for those apps whether in stock rom or not, pressing X wont close the processes.. you have to go to menu > exit.
for default windows apps like file explorer, you cant close the process other than using another app like "Close Process".
I like your ROM... The only glitch i see is with the phone pad, it clutters background images and looks as if its not loaded and displaying properly.
Nice ROM overall.
im also unable to change my ringtone. when i select a different ringtone and tap ok, something weird happens and it changes back to the original ringtone.
the bluetooth toggle widget isnt working as well..=/
t2 (titanium 2) Made by JM
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My Niki passed to the history,my new device is: HTC Wildfire
My Other Posts:
TITANIUM Ultimate (Windows 6.5 Original)
TITANIUM 2 (Windows 6.5.X)
TITANIUM 3 (Windows 6.5.X with square buttons & many apps)
PHONE 7 (Windows 6.5.X Phone7 theme)
josemaesra said:
t2 (titanium 2) Made by JM
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Hey, I was just getting ready to flash your former version and now I see you have one with 6.5.x Guess I´ll be trying this one instead. Downloading
I have not been able to push the "thanks" button, due to the limitation of five per day, so I´ll do it mañana
Edit 03:15 Well, after reading and catching up a little on how to "flash" my old NIKE (first upgrade the latest ROM Release for my device from HTC, then sspl 1.6, HSPL 1.22) and everything still fine (new ROM & newer radio), the whole process took about an hour including all downloads and reading, I flashed this new ROM. All went fine, no issues what so ever, and to my great and pleassant surprise, the ROM is simply fine, perfect 5 minutes and all was set up and working. Just like on my HD2. I must congratulate you for an excellent job well done. To bad and sad our little Duals don´t have wifi. Now the only thing left to do is to customize a bit (I don´t like the round softkey buttons - I´ll see what else I can find out here in xda or mod the ones I have on my HD2) and see if I can get CHT (CoOkie´s Home Tab) working somehow - if not, then also a few mods here needed
Summary, excellent job and muchisimas gracias for your effort. I´m convinced that your English version will be highly appreciated by others. Awesome Custom ROM close to stock. You just made me like my Nike again
Thanks Ber, I'm waiting for HTC Wildfire, but in the meantime maybe I'll do some more rom for Niki, I do not I like the round buttons, if I do another rom that will be one of the changes.saludos.
josemaesra said:
Thanks Ber, I'm waiting for HTC Wildfire, but in the meantime maybe I'll do some more rom for Niki, I do not I like the round buttons, if I do another rom that will be one of the changes.saludos.
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Hola, Wildfire sound good I solved my round buttons issue installing some of the Themes for WinMo by Livven Livven Themes for WM 6.5/6.5.3, so now I also have my square buttons turning blue (or green, red, black) when I touch them The only three things I missed after install were "My Phone" (for sync contacts easily), the "tools / herramientas" folder with access to com-manager and a TaskManager like the one in Win 6.1 or the HD2. But no biggie, since MyPhone can easily be installed over the air and the taskmanager is also a very personal choice. On the quick-link to com-manager I´ll have to check if I can tweak that in registry or by separate cab install.
Good thing about manila 2.0 is that images are plain pngs and not manila qtc files, so modding a few is a simple task.
If there is anything you want me to test or help you out with, just let me know. I did notice a considerable increase in connection speed with the new radio and your ROM, so thanks again for it
COOL! I'm waiting for your English rom.
come on man!
Where is facebook?