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hi,
Please could someone offer a bit of advice. I have recently decided to purchase an xda2. so i have decided to sell on my xda1.
The problem is that the theft protection is enabled and i was wondering how i disable it or alter it to the new users details.
I have nevered altered the details before as it was done for me buy the previous owner.
Many Thanks
Zetex
You cannot alter the details unless you burn a new rom.
You can disable it by deleting "IIWPO_startup.exe"
from the startup directory (but it will come back after a hard reset). Hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply m8,
no i have a problem, do you know how i change the detail for a new user??
Because i dont know how to burn a new rom or has the files to do so??
please can you help me m8
Thanks alot
Zetex
You cannot change the details for a new user, that is the whole point of it, if it sees that the user has changed or no name is entered it will keep informing the "owner", the only way to get rid of it is to burn a new rom to the device.
Thanks alot for your help.
I have tried reloading the original rom from the O2 website, but because the one on the xda is newer than the rom on the O2 website so it won't load it onto my xda.
I have contacted the previous owner who is a well known member on these forums to see if he can help me (gazzaman2k), i'am awaiting his response, so hopefully he can help me.
If anyone has any ideas of loading the original rom back on i would be grateful.
Many Thanks
zetex
very simple. search the regestry for the old user name and you will find 3 variables, old user name, new name and the phone to send sms. in your case change the first and last so you can use it or delete the phone to stop the option.
you need regestry editor program and I think it is with this ROM.
HI M8,
I tried that but when i did a hard reset, it replaced it with the original number????
zetex
ah mate got your emails and found the thread lol.
It is my old XDA1 what i donewhen i sold it you was just locate the reg string and change it over to your details each time you hardreset it itll just come back the olny way you can do it is to:
burn a new rom and place it over it theres no other way and since jeffs kitchen burnt down theres only yorch's one :\ left but that does mostly american roms and i think it isnt as good as jeffs one
on the dvds i gave you there is the original v3.17 or whateer cant remeber its numbers you could try downgrading it to that as thats just a bog standard rom.
but im not too sure about downgrading roms :\
what ever you do just dont try to downgrade the radio version as that can lead to killing the phone.
only way might be to flash it using a sd card. its all i can think of at the mo.
gaz
hi gaz,
I when i changed the name, i think it says last user, current user & mobile number??? i can put another number in there, is that what you did for me when you added my details???
this will work providing i don't hard reset it??? it will be ok. but i have done a hard reset and now your details are in as last owner, new owner and a mobile i don't recognise????
I have tried putting the rom from the O2 website but it won't update because the xda rom that is on it is newer (v4.00 i think) the one on the O2 website is v3.17....
does anyone know the procedure to put the v3.17 (o2 basic rom) on. when you have v4.00 already on....
I really need to sort this out tonight so i can sell, it as i really need the money...
Please can someone please help me i don't mind if its a basic rom. as i just want to sell it on....
Thanks to everyone who has replied
zetex
shizzer thats my dads mobile :| youll have to do what i said with the developers v1.2 thing i sent you via email. as my dad will go mad getting thousands of texts and im sure the guy you sell to will get upset too that his credit is draining every second.
if you cant do it send me the cradel and XDA + the ruturn P&P and ill get it back to normal for you but downgrading to xda developers v1.2 will put it back on pc2002 which i think is a crap version of windows mobile.
i have the files for v4.00.05 but they require to be written by bootloader way which is very scary to try lol
Gaz,
Thanks for the offer m8, i may take you up on that if the person i sold it to can wait..
i have emailed you about resending those files m8 and i will try and do it myself. I don't mind if the pc2002 is put on it as i just need to sell it m8...
I have been having a look around for a later version than v4.00 that is on my xda but i have been unable to find one, if anyone can point me in the right direct in a .exe format that would be fantastic just to get over my problem....
Thanks alot
zetex
only later versions out are yankee versions mate putting that on and youll loose the 1800mhz band so that means no orange/one2one
anyway sent you an email on how to do it:
ahah ! i know
get DVD 1 i sent you.
go into progs p-z
find......
XDA-developers-SER-v12.zip
copy it from the cd onto you desktop.
then dont unzip it...
just double click it it will then begin to self extract a dos box will pop
up.
b4 you do this make sure the xda is in its cradel and plugged into the mains
charging.
wait about 30 secs for it to stop doing activesync crap....
after then double clci kthe file and wait for the dos box to come.
then a windows box will pop up telling you about it all.
make sure you read it thorugh very very carefully and follow everything it
says
good luck mate
gaz
thanks alot m8, it now sorted..
Zetex
Hi Gurus
Is it safer to apply HardSPL first then SIM unlock or the other way round.
Maybe it doesnt matter.
Whats your view ?
Asif
I did sim unlock first. then I apply hardspl. now flashing different roms. don't know exactly how the process suppose to be but that's what I did and my phone is working like a champ
I did hard spl, then Sim unlocked, not sure if it matters. I had the same query when I unlocked, but wondered if I missed something in the WIKI, so didn't ask due to a good flaming (if you aint done your research you can get crusified in here). Your braver than me lol
@AsifM3100: U need to do the CID/SIM update first; it will load it's own spl and radio. When U have completed the process, then U should install the hardspl before flashing your own radio and or rom.
Sotian
You post made me laugh. However I have made the same observation but couldnt find the answer in the wiki or other posts. Its one of the reasons why I have put off unlocking and flashing for such a long time. So many people who you feel sorry for, cos they have bricked their phones and who are panicking, just get told to do the research. When you are in that state the last thing you need is research. Its such a contrast to the SAP developer network site that I use regularly where evryone is so keen to help (me included).
Having said that its still the best site for us Hermese peeps. I would be in no state to unlock if it wasnt for this site. I just hope nothing goes wrong.
Regards
Asif
AsifM3100 said:
Sotian
Its such a contrast to the SAP developer network site that I use regularly where evryone is so keen to help (me included).
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3 thoughts on this:
1. It is scary when the Germans are nicer than us
2. You gotta feel sorry for anyone hanging around in an SAP developer network
3. We aren't so bad when people have done research. It is the "HELP PLZ!!!!! - JUST GOT MY HERMES THIS MORNING AND BRICKED IT!!!!" posts that get people upset. Or the "CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF THERE IS A WM6 ROM AVAILABLE FOR THE 8525 BY CINGULAR????" People who do their research and ask don't get crucified too badly - usually.
Oh, and regarding the question - doesn't really matter, since (as galaxys noted) the unlocker uses it's own SPL called SSPL and overrides whatever SPL you have loaded. However, it is good practice to throw HardSPL on their as the first step, since it protects the Hermes from having it's bootloader borked - and that is a good thing!
Hi todd_gj
There are not that many Germans on the SAP dewv Networks. Its mainly asian probably in Southern India. Most of the software is now developed out there, especially sisnce it costs $10 an hour. I bet most WM5/6 is churned out over there.
But I do take your point. You need to do your reading, but i have found a little extra help goes a long way to making sense of it all.
Regards
Asif
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
Start here, read and learn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
welcome to the club, please read all the Sticky topics on the main page of HERMES Upgrading ect...
if you still have any questions or concerns then post your next question...
happy reading
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
esseff said:
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
Then, once you have a feel for the bits and pieces of the process, read through the wiki and forums and you will be able to sort through the threds of relavence. It is really not THAT hard once you have done a little homework.
Most important thing - the first thing you should do is upgrade the SPL to Olipro's HardSPLv7 - do that first - that way you can recover from just about anything.
Rest assured, if you have a little experience, educate yourself and follow the guides to get started, your device will work 99% of the time. Don't fret.
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
encryptedmaniac said:
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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How do you know that WM5 isn't good enough for you? If the only thing you want on your phone is WM6, why didn't you buy one with this pre-installed? Maybe you should spend some more time reading before you get, and break your new toy - all the best links are already posted above and if you'd read them you wouldn't be posting these questions.
todd_jg said:
LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
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Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
...head...spinning...
Thanks for the advice to everyone who gave it... I got my Hermes at 1 this afternoon and it's been sitting on my desk, charging and keeping me from really getting any work done all afternoon. I'm going to assume that all the acronyms y'all are throwing at me will be explained in the wikis...
Don't freak them out guys , get it unlock it install official go to bed happy, if you want to go crazy over installing different versions of roms all the time do so but check the safety steps first (many guides here, Mr. Vanx's is a great place to start) mind you there is no 100% safe option and most of the roms are more or less the same, you can always add cab files of things you want, it's better to stick to a clean rom. If you play with it there might be a chance you screw it... badly (even if you know what you're doing)
Me I just updated the official WM6 (which was released sooooo long later) thankfully in your case you don't have to wait.
Either way congrads on the phone and enjoy it, some small issues aside you have a great piece of hardware there.
CSMR said:
Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
d.butters said:
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
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welcome... i was like you for a while... i'm a new hermes 8525 owner too... read and learn before you really dive in... understand the terminology and jargon for a while... get used to using your phone in stock mode for a while before moving forward... being familiar with it is important... then the first thing you should install when you decide to is hardspl... good luck...
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
esseff said:
Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
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hey now hey now, that's a bit mean. Linux does after all give you the whole house, while Microsoft only gives you the Windows
ok, maybe i'm just causing a bit of trouble hehe... just ignore me hehehe
d.butters said:
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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So, I can't read your nick without thinking of the Lethal Weapon movie with Chris Rock. He was detective Butters or something. Anywa, I digress...
I think your next logical step is one of two paths:
1. Cooking and coding - either for yourself or for a new release, if you come up with something you think is different or cool for the community - home cooked customization apps are quite popular - settings backup/recover solutions too - fewer options out there for that right now
or
2. Documenting - maybe something you could work with MrVanx on if you want to pick up an area that is not well documented adn try to document it for folks
For cooking, start HERE IN THE WIKI and see what you can figure out. I am not sure if all the latest kitchen releases are in here, but it is a good start. Follow the links then do some additional searches - lot's of cool stuff... enjoy...
Hi there. I have/had wizard g4, but after upgradin' rom by ruu my phone is bricked. he doesn't even respone to charger.
Now technical details: upgrade was done on i/spl 2.21.001/olip, so after hardspl'ing him. Everythin' went just fine, but in 73% i've realised that i'm uploadin' g3 rom... So i let ruu finish his job and now my pda is completly dead.
I won't be askin' for HELP, i will ask for info. Will anyone can tell me: if i take out 'disk on chip' (cause i think that's the flashrom chip), how i can reflash it? I mean: should i just put nk.nbf from 0x0000 or split rom image onto bootloader, radio and os and put it partially? what are adressess of those thinx and lenght of code? and how can i split nk.nbf?
Congrats !
What your are asking is not easy to do,it requires special flashing tools and connectors,which only the manufacturers and vendors have,It needs new bootloaders,you cannot do it yourself.DOC chip might have to be replaced,it means an almost new phone
Btw,have you tried to force it into bootloaders ? might be lucky,if it gets into bootloaders.well there's no harm in trying,if it does,then you might in luck and safe.
whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
lis6502 said:
whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
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First,let me clear you here, There's no such "Conspiracy theory" being practiced here in this Forum.It's a development Forum and not a Technical Advisory Service of some sort,where experts give advise and earn money.Its a free forum to help the newbies about the problem regarding their phones,We here believe in "Help & Support".The guys and gurus are not trained technical experts,its a voluntary website,where guys help and advise what they have learned and gained to the new guys joining and asking for help and they do it with honesty and to the best of their knowledge without any monetary benefits.
Secondly,Yes ! thats exactly what I meant for 'Force into booltloaders',cuz,may be if it does boot in the bootloaders,then it might be recovered,just a haunch,but if it doesn't,then its another dead paper weight on the desk.
Cheers!
I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
lis6502 said:
I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
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focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ? If yes then u can have a fair chance of bringing urs back to life
It is because you are not supposed to flash a ROM that is not for your device!
For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
alber786 said:
focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ?
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few posts ago i've wrote, that i cannot even see red led when pluggin' onto charger. BL mode doesn't work either (cam+ sr or cam+pwr).
i've found another way to resurrect my wiza200. JTAG.
But ofcoz noone knows where are testpoints located. But i'll find it. BTW someone can e-mail me fubu of working g4 wizard? lis6502 (at) gmail (dot) com
starkwong said:
For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
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yeah, i know what i did. i understand example of bioses misupload. i've explained in that way to some guys who doesn't understand what i did
starkwong said:
The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
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Do i cracked it? i just found ONE working ruu which allowed me to upload any rom to my device. i've switched nk.nbf files in folder wich ruu was in.
I know also that HTC wouldn't help mi, i'm not counting on warranty or manufacturer help.
No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
starkwong said:
No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
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uhm, it may be infatile question, but is it illegal? i know thah chaging IMEI is illegal, but is hardspl'ing too?
Cracking SPL is not an offense in law, just violate the warranty terms only.
2 starwonk: man, i'm from poland. i've bought my spv on polish eqiuvalent of e-bay. It's o2 xda mini s, so warranty is only valid in UK. i've told that i'm not counting on warranty. i need and must do it all by myself. and i will do it. Wish me luck
Hi.
First of all i wasn't sure where to post this. Whether to post in the Touch Pro section or what. But i figured you guys know so much about the unlocking of X01HT and stuff, so i figured i'd try my luck here-
I have searched for some days now, and done some "researching", but i never really found the answer i was looking for. Also already read stickies and i do have experience in flashing/unlocking of my X01HT.
Now.. I'd like to "upgrade" to X05HT, but i wouldn't just go buy it without knowing whether i can really use it or not.
(using wifi, internet(gprs), mail... stuff liek that)
My concerns/qestions are.
Does the X05HT have the same "issue" as the post April X01HT does? If you have already let the ExtROM install you CAN'T sim-unlock it? How would i know whether it has already been installed just by looking at an auction? Does it have to have a Radio version like: 1.16.00.00 - like on the X01HT?
And is it even unlockable at all? Since it's a newer device i figure they might have done something that makes it even harder to unlock.
Or is it just as easy as buying one off auction and then flashing it? (after hardSPL) ?
The only thing i read was something with the wifi not working abord. Can anyone confirm this?
Sorry for the long post. And sorry if these uestions have been asked many times, without me being able to find the answers
Thank you!