Hi all
First of all, im new to hermes! but not new to smartphones/ppc's!
i stumbled across this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750&highlight=software
and it discusses unhiding and unlocking the extended rom for about 10mbs of space.
now, on the Himalaya (i think this is the case anyway) the ext rom is used as a 'RAMDRIVE' and as so, when flashing ONLY the OS partition (as many of the custom roms are) what you have stored in ext-rom does not get touched.....
So, my theory is as follows:
Unlock/unhide Ext ROM,
Use as a storage space for backups between roms
i suppose, my question is, would this actually work or is it just a load of crap?!
many thanks
Also, if anyone has any hermes software they would like to reccomend, please do!
Thank you
EDIT: simplified and updated with more questions. Over 100 views and so many unanswered questions!
UPDATE:
1- What is it that you backup when you backup your phone? Is it the content of the internal and SD card in one file? Or multiple files? Is this what's called a ROM?
Because last time I checked ROM means Read Only Memory, and my internal and Sd card are read and write.... ssssooooooooooo confusing.
1.1 Where's the OS (Android) installed? On the internal memory and on another partition?
2- I got my phone over at Koodo mobile. It's got their company name on the home screen. To avoid warranty problems:
2.1 Is this going to be copied over if I make a backup of the phone?
2.2 So many people suggest to just download a ROM of the stock version I got in my phone... would I have to find a Koodo ROM for the Optimus One or will any android 2.2 ROM do the trick.
2.3 Does putting a custom ROM or android 2.3 leave traces somewhere on the phone, even of you put back the original backup ROM?
3- How do you know if you made a proper backup and the size it should be?
Many thanks.
22vin:
- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
From the internal and SD card? All into one file?
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
Does KDZ make backups images of the phones, or is it only used to update?
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
So.... Custom recovery is ran from the phone and used for flashing KDZ is ran from Windows and used for flashing too?
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
I take that as a GPU overclocking YES.
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
(FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
MoonQuake said:
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
[Updated poster N00b level: 3/10]
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
[Updated poster N00b level: 4/10]
Here are the questions: (FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
[Updated poster N00b level: 7/10] WARNING! N00b warning! Proceed carefully.
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
[Updated poster N00b level: 8/10] WARNING! Critical level! Prepare your N00b bio suit if you dare answer!
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
[Updated poster N00b level: 10/10] ALERT! Shutting down the app to prevent lack of knowledge damage from noobish user. Exiting...
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
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- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
Thanks for the answers 22vin.
The overly careful person that I am asks:
- How do you call the backup of the whole phone data?
- When you do this backup, does it create 1 file, or multiple files? I ask this because I still don't understand how these phones work. Are they like gaming roms and emulators where you get a rom (copy of the cartridge) and you can also add other roms to change the way it works? Like a mod?
I got about 50 other questions, but it's mainly because I don't exactly know what ROMs are in smartphones.
It would be awesome if somebody could point me towards a "Everything you need to know about android phones and custom ROMS" for dummies. I understand how to use it, but not how it works in the inside so that I can safely go ahead with flashing and stuff...
Does this make sense? Tech stuff about the way the OS works and what is a ROM and a kernel... so that I know what I'm doing.
OP updated.
100 views later and just one reply (thanks to 22vin btw) made me wonder if my questions were clear enough.
*ahem* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152306
Sent from my LG-P500
Thanks for the links, terra. I actually read all these pages already.
Finally re-read the whole dictionary page, and in addition to some other info I read, I could make sense of a lot more info.
The general info page uses terms that is not covered in the dictionary/terms page so a lot of info I can't understand.
Like the info about what the kernel does and why change it. Leads to a wikipedia generic kernel page.
NAND actually allows for creating a 1:1 copy of the phone's content. Probably a copy of the internal memory. Another guess is that the OS is also on that partition but I can't find that info.
About the SD card, it seems to allow the copy of some native apps.
Only thing that's not clear is if it leaves ANY traces on the phone after a recover from a backup.
The Os is no stored in the internet memory and sdcard, it's somewhere else you don't need to know about.
Yes, a Nandroid backup restores your settings before you flash a new ROM. You need to unroot it to make your carrier believe nothing has happened. Another way, you can flash kdz which will completely reset your phone back into into the state you bought it(minus the carrier installed apps).
You only can overclock CPU, not GPU.
Thanks for taking the time to answer, terra.
@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
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dax4182 said:
@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
Sent from LGE XDA phone
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It varies from country to country, carriers to carriers, phone manufacturer to phone manufacturer . Just a precaution.
Sent from my LG-P500
Sorry for probably creating a duplicate thread but I need an answer and FAST, so I don't got time to search for more than 15min and that didn't turn up any real results...
So I have been asked to install CM9 stable on my sisters SGSII, I backed up alot of stuff to the SD card but then noticed that this phone has huge amount of internal storage used and all of that wont fit on the SD card...
So my Q is what exactly does get wiped in CWM on a SGSII ? I remember my internal storage getting wiped on my GNex when performing the OEM Unlock, but after that CWM manages to only wipe system data.
So if I wipe this phone in CWM will the internal storage (which is for some odd reason called "USB Storage" ????? ) also get wiped? If it gets then putting CM9 on this phone will never happen...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
THX but I said I don't have time to search for a so simple answer as DOES A CWM WIPE ALSO WIPE INTERNAL STORAGE! and linking to a thread with multiple links to multiple FAQs isn't helping when the FAQs don't have my question in them, sorry if I'm sounding like an asshole here but I seriously just need to know YES or NO and typing that here can't be much harder than actually searching for a thread to link me to...
So if anyone actually know the answer to my Q like right now, then please! just post here if the CWM wipe actually wipes the internal storage. thanks!
Also the reason for not having time to search if me being over at my parents house with limited time on this PC to do this, would probably be done with this by now if this info would already been on the CM Wiki, all it tells me there is to backup, it never says what CWM will erase...
Have you read the noob-poof instru ctions.If you go ahead and do stuff without reading then youll end up in trouble.
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When flashing another rom via CWM, internal storage stays intact.
Sent from my Galaxy S2 GT i9100
You didn't need the answer to this quickly at all.
If you're not totally sure of the ins and outs of CM9 and what exactly it entails, then simply don't do it. It's not as if you've got to do it for your sister. She's simply asked you and you've said yes. You could have quite easily said that you weren't too sure how to do it so you'd rather not risk it.
You're a prime example of why these forums have so many rules which might seem pathetic and useless. Too many users simply want a quick fix or an immediate answer to something, without even bothering to out the leg-work in for themselves.
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Hey guys, so I've never gone beyond rooting my android phones in the past, and I'm interested in installing a AOSP-esque rom onto this phone when they become more available. But having never done it before, I have one question I haven't really seen directly answered. Probably because it's obvious, but I'd like a straight answer from the more knowledgeable!
Will the original stock rom have to stay on the internal memory? My hope is that a clean custom AOSP rom will take up less space and thus I'll have more internal memory, but if I have to have both my custom rom and the original stock rom installed...well you get the picture.
I imagine the rest of my questions about the process will be answered once more roms are available and better guides for installing them are released. Hopefully that FolderMount thingy works as well as it seems, 'cause with the new Google Music service I want to make sure I have plenty of room for music that I don't already own.
The partion set for the operating system is hard coded. Someone would have to repartition to change this. As of yet, I don't think its possible to repartition.
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hi there all - over the years have installed various roms and kernels from here - i dont even remember which are now on... anyway over the last few month the only thing i use the a70it for is playing media files as it is just too slow for anything else... i use the stock rom as it does what i need and is the most stable on my tablet...
i do have all kind of files in my internal memory and i would like to clean them out to make more memory available and leave only stock rom on... any simple way of doing this?
mmoalem said:
hi there all - over the years have installed various roms and kernels from here - i dont even remember which are now on... anyway over the last few month the only thing i use the a70it for is playing media files as it is just too slow for anything else... i use the stock rom as it does what i need and is the most stable on my tablet...
i do have all kind of files in my internal memory and i would like to clean them out to make more memory available and leave only stock rom on... any simple way of doing this?
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1st thing: I think this should be in the General forum (well actually Q&A if the Archos forum had a Q&A section) and 2nd reboot into recovery and format your tablet from there, but this will also wipe your stock rom so you will need to get the .aos file from archos's website and reflash the stock rom after this also....