bit confused...
i went to htc's website and downloaded alltel's RUU and ran it on my 6800. after i did this i was looking at the screen shot on the webpage (http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=63&act=sd) and my ROM version didnt change, but the radio and the ROM date did... i called htc and they couldnt help me.
now, if this is a stupid noob question just tell me- i know i just dont know a lot about my phone yet. but could someone explain this to me?
what were you running before??
****... 2.something for the radio. my ROM is stock...im just iffy about upgrading my ROM after reading about so many bugs and things with many of these custom roms out
In your Device Information screen, what does it show for ROM version and Radio version?
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In your Device Information screen, what does it show for ROM version and Radio version?
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Rom version: 2.14.671.3
ROM date: 4/9/08
Radio version: 03.37.20
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Rom version: 2.14.671.3
ROM date: 4/9/08
Radio version: 03.37.20
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It looks like maybe the radio flashed properly and the ROM flash did not fully complete. Try running the RUU.exe again. You said you ran the RUU on your 6800...you don't really mean that, do you? You should run the RUU on your PC with the 6800 attached to the USB cable.
I suspect he needs to Unlock his phone with Ollipro 2.4, then he should be able to Flash any radio compatible ROM, like DCD 3.0.4....
To be honest, I think it was just a bad install of the alltel update. I'd say first try and run the update again and see if the proper rom version shows up.
He still needs to unlock with 2.40 in order to flash a custom rom, but there's no reason why it shouldn't have updated his rom version if he went from alltel stock to alltel update with the alltel updater package.
alright i ran that RUU from htc again (yes, on my comp- just bad use of words in my earlier post) and now eveything is up to date. i am using spb backup, and the first time i ran the RUU i didnt check the Device Info until after i ran the backup, so does anyone know if running the spb backup after updating the ROM would for some reason change it back to an older version (somehow)???
its either that or my install the first time was just bad, but i did everything exactly the same the second time except i havent run the spb backup yet...
thanks for the help though, i do appreciate it
You should never use sbp backup when changing roms. That's what UC is for, and now that UC is incorporated into dcd's roms, it's awesome.
If you need to backup your PIM data, use something like PIMbackup and then restore your PIM data after the flash.
this is just one reason why this website is better than any of our services' customer service centers.
but could you tell me what exactly UC stands for...google couldnt help me with that one.
obviously its like talking to a middleschooler to me when it comes to some of this stuff...but thanks again
i was too impatient- i found it....does anyone know if the route i should take in order to keep my old settings but get the updated rom would be to run SPBBackup now (putting the old settings back but moving back to the old rom), then running UC and PIM backup to save my settings, then run the RUU again, and then just run UC and PIMBackup. ---would that work?
No that will not work. Spb backup does NOT flash back to the old rom if used this way, instead it just screws everything up if you use it when going from one rom to another. For instance, if you flash to dcd 3.0.4, and use spb backup...then hard reset (keeping the same rom) using spb backup is perfectly fine for restoring stuff. If you have 3.0.4 and use spb backup and then go to 3.0.5 (no such thing), if you use spb backup, it will not flash you back to your 3.0.4 rom, but will only screw everything up and will not work. Hopefully I explained it well enough. PIMbackup, however, can be used going from rom to rom as it only backs up PIM data which is not rom sensitive data. UC is only run when you boot a new rom for the first time, and can do anything from installing all your software for you, changing registry keys, moving/copying files etc.
SPB and Sprite do not back up the ROM itself, but do back up some system files. If you run a restore from SPB or Sprite after a ROM update, you risk writing some old format system files and settings over top of the new ROM files. Not a good idea as it leaves your device in an inconsistent state. For example, with the Sprint 3.35 ROM flash, a Sprite restore from the old ROM version will remove the Rev A setting from the EPST. Not just turn it off, but actually delete the setting completely.
It is best to re-install your programs after the new ROM flash, then restore your data either from a PIM backup, or through syncing to your desktop Outlook. You can also safely do a Sprite restore if you choose ONLY the "Personal Databases". If SPB has an equivalent setting it should also be safe.
If the only copy you have of your data is in your SPB backup, and you did not sync it to Outlook on a PC, and SPB does not have a personal databases only restore, your options are
1. re-enter everything that you can remember manually; or
2. find another 6800 that is still on the old ROM and restore your backup to it, then create a PIM backup that you can load onto your 6800; or
3. use the Titan relocker, reflash the old ROM, restore your backup, do a PIM backup, install Olipro 2.40 bootloader, reflash the new ROM, restore your PIM backup.
If you are in this situation and you choose door number 3, realize that several users, including very knowledgeable ones, have bricked phones attempting to go back from the new GPS ROMs to the pre-GPS ROMs.
edit: any way you do it, you will not be able to safely restore your settings, only your data. All programs, settings, registry edits, etc. have to be re-installed or re-entered after flashing a new ROM.
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i had the original 2.08 rom on my mogul, and i updated to the sprint 2.17 rom, then did a restore of files/settings using sprite backup, now my rom shows 2.08 again (in device information) but the date of the 2.17 rom (11/18/07) and radio 1.47.01
is there a registry setting or file i can edit to make it reflect the actual rom version?
Restore of a backup from a previous ROM version over top of a new ROM version is a VERY bad idea; it will overwrite the registry and other system files with the old version. Sprite Restore usually gives a warning if you attempt to do this. Your best bet is to reinstall the 2.17 ROM and then only restore the data, not the system files, from your Sprite backup. Sprite Restore also has a ROM upgrade option, but I find it better to manually choose the data to restore.
i used the rom upgrade option, everything works the way it should, all the bufixes from the new rom are defiantely there, i just figure it overwrote some registry entry with the old version number
as for just restoring data, i have a ton of programs installed, do WM programs usually need registry keys or files outside of their install directories to run? if not just restoring the data would work, but id hate to have to reinstal all my apps again after a rom upgrade
heh, dont know why i didnt think of it before, searched the registry and found a key in HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\ with the rom version, so i changed it to reflect the new rom
i suppose you can change it to 666.1337 if you want, lol
Reinstalling my apps (including re-entering license keys) and reconfiguring my 4 email accounts after every ROM upgrade is a bit of a PITA.
Spb Backup 2.0 says it has a ROM upgrade mode. Has anyone tried this? Does it avoid or minimize the hassle of reinstalling/reconfiguring after a ROM upgrade?
(I have no connection with Spb other than I have licenses for a few of its other software products)
I'vetried the new version of SpB BAckup, and the 'New Device' function, though not the ROM Update function.
The 'New Device' restore works well- I did a backup from my Ameo, and restored it to my Tinity; SpB correctly interrupted and asked if this was a new device, and suggested using the New Device process.
The process went well, and the Trinity came out of it with my previous Ameo programs all installed, and also the SMS messaeg store.
However, there is a problme SpB BAckup2 seems to have a problem backing up Email data with cooked WM6.1 ROMs. It seems to work OK with genuine HTC ROMs which is bizarre, but at the end of a backup of my Irun ROM Ameo (and also a colleague with a Touch Cruise with cooked WM6.1 ROM) it gives an error at the end of the process saying 'unable to read cemail.vol' which is the email folder. S, as this is not backed up, it obviously didn't restore to the Trinity
NeilM, thanks for the response.
With respect to email, my focus is on account configuration rather than the emails themselves since my accounts are either Exchange Server or IMAP.
How does SPB Backup handle the account configuration? Thanks.
With my cooked WM6.1 ROMs it doesn't handle any part of the email system.
The Email accounts are absent after a restore, calendar seems OK, but Contacts goes into a continuous loop of syncing/verifying/syncing again so looks like a lot of the Pocket Outlook sync is broken after restore.
SpB are adamant this is not a problem on all the official WM6.1 ROMs they have tried, and some users are verifying that, but I've yet to hear from any of my colleagues who have a genuine 6.1 device, and have used SpB BAckup 2.
Just for the record, SpB Backup 1.6 gives me the same errors.
I’ve being using Spb Backup 1.6.3 on all cooked rom from here and never encountered any of the issue. After upgraded to Spb Backup 2, thought that it will safe time when restoring to another rom but no luck. Even tried restoring back to same rom it stop dead at restoring registry. Well, back to 1.6.3 till they fix it.
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Well, back to 1.6.3 till they fix it.
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My query about the email problems just prompted the response that it was working fine with WM6.1 so the problem is due to my cooked ROM.
Did you try Options and disabling the 'Stop Processes before backup' option? That seems to have worked for some people.
ROM upgrade mode is practically impossible afaik but not sure how SPB is going to work. It didnt work for me either. Actually the files in ROM are sometimes impossible to get copied ir backed up.
For example, I tried Ultra Lite ROM where ozVGA is there and then restored in Irus' Modded Taxist ROM which doesnt have ozVGA but RealVGA. Guess what? All icons vanished!
Regards,
Carty..
Yes done that too and still hath (gold cube stop revolving) during registry restoring.
If it only works for some people, I rather stick to the previous version.
Usually I don’t keep any mail in the device, therefore unable to give any feedback.
Have done a few hard reset and restore. This is what I did.
1. Select customize restore and restore only the reg without any others. This way, the reg will be able to restore fully into the device. Then perform a soft reset once complete.
2. Select customize restore and restore the rest less the reg. This way it will be able to complete the restore. Then perform a soft reset.
That's it. Is kinda stupid in a way as you need to restore it 2 times.
Bear in mind that this works with the AP4.
I just flash the rom to AP5, and it doesn't even work. It just hang in the backup screen. Sigh!!!
Since the question of whether one can restore from backup after a rom upgrade comes up often I thought I'd leave my observation. I've never had success with this method before using older versions of Sprite and SPB, there's always some errors, but I try it each time for the hell of it. I just upgraded to DCD 3.3.4 (thanks DCD) and restored from my old 3.2.6 system using SPB backup 2.0. It took some time, but it seems to have worked flawlessly. I'm still going to hard reset and re install eventually, just as a way to clean out the old junk, but it's nice to know that restore works
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Since the question of whether one can restore from backup after a rom upgrade comes up often I thought I'd leave my observation. I've never had success with this method before using older versions of Sprite and SPB, there's always some errors, but I try it each time for the hell of it. I just upgraded to DCD 3.3.4 (thanks DCD) and restored from my old 3.2.6 system using SPB backup 2.0. It took some time, but it seems to have worked flawlessly. I'm still going to hard reset and re install eventually, just as a way to clean out the old junk, but it's nice to know that restore works
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gracia por la informacion
jph8tr said:
Since the question of whether one can restore from backup after a rom upgrade comes up often I thought I'd leave my observation. I've never had success with this method before using older versions of Sprite and SPB, there's always some errors, but I try it each time for the hell of it. I just upgraded to DCD 3.3.4 (thanks DCD) and restored from my old 3.2.6 system using SPB backup 2.0. It took some time, but it seems to have worked flawlessly. I'm still going to hard reset and re install eventually, just as a way to clean out the old junk, but it's nice to know that restore works
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it may have seemed to work, but its never a good idea to try to restore over different rom versions. especially considering your registry. if you read a little earlier in the 3.3.4 thread DCD talks about registry edits which increased the ram, which you overwrote when you backed up your previous 3.2.6. i found the best backup method is UC all your apps, then after everything is set up perfectly, back up your registry. any hard reset/ reflash you do with the same rom version will only require your UC and then restoring your registry. you should never restore a full backup on a newer rom.
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it may have seemed to work, but its never a good idea to try to restore over different rom versions. especially considering your registry. if you read a little earlier in the 3.3.4 thread DCD talks about registry edits which increased the ram, which you overwrote when you backed up your previous 3.2.6. i found the best backup method is UC all your apps, then after everything is set up perfectly, back up your registry. any hard reset/ reflash you do with the same rom version will only require your UC and then restoring your registry. you should never restore a full backup on a newer rom.
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Anyone have a tutorial on the UC process? Where do you put the sdconfig.txt? In the root of your SD card?
I found a few automated SDConfig.txt makers but didn't have much luck with them.
Unfortunately UC is a hard term to search for
go Here for your answers.
I've been thinking about playing with 6.5 beta but, I got my 6800 running really well with 6.1, Just wondering if there is anything that will do a full rom backup with all settings/apps/contacts/e-mail, etc that can be just quicky restored incase of problems or just need my phone back the way it was ?
Thanks !
SPBBackup will do this, however if you make a major OS update, the restore may not work. But you can play around/test 6.5, and afterwards, flash back to the 6.1 rom you were running and then restore your backup and it should be exactly like it was before you flashed 6.5.
You can try the restore on 6.5, but because of the major changes, it will most likely fail.
There is no 'transparent' backup, SPB is as close as it gets, and it's not perfect.
BTC
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SPBBackup will do this, however if you make a major OS update, the restore may not work. But you can play around/test 6.5, and afterwards, flash back to the 6.1 rom you were running and then restore your backup and it should be exactly like it was before you flashed 6.5.
You can try the restore on 6.5, but because of the major changes, it will most likely fail.
There is no 'transparent' backup, SPB is as close as it gets, and it's not perfect.
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Thanks, it sounds like a reasonable work-around to be safe. I also as it will back up reg keys, certs, etc, I think it would do what I need....
Hi!
I have the Energy rom on my TP.
I want to upgrade to the last rom avaliable all the time.
If i use a software like Resco Backup, is it possible to perform a full backup, flash a new rom and then restore my full settings and customizations and aply to the new rom??
thanks!
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Hi!
I have the Energy rom on my TP.
I want to upgrade to the last rom avaliable all the time.
If i use a software like Resco Backup, is it possible to perform a full backup, flash a new rom and then restore my full settings and customizations and aply to the new rom??
thanks!
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You can chose whatever backup software you want. Sprite offers a restore after ROM upgrade, so does SPB but be assured that in 8 out of 10 cases it will FAIL, your brand spanking new ROM will be messed up, sluggish, unresponsive.
The only way these backups DO work is a 1:1 restore. Let's say you back up, installed a theme, phone hangs or you don't like the theme and cannot convert back.
Hard reset SAME ROM --> Restore --> > Done.
Get accustomed to MyPhone, PIM copy, UC, Sashimi and other tricks because you wont be happy with the restore.
Catch phrase --> "Trust me!"
agree with tyguy...
PIM Backup, SASHIMI, and UC is very useful in backup/restore... I use them all
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PIM Backup, SASHIMI, and UC is very useful in backup/restore... I use them all
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There are SOME things that will work that way. If you use Sprite Backup, you can decide which things to restore. If you avoid restoring the registry, you can still use it to restore selected items like PIM databases. I used Sprite Backup but it has become unusable and it seems the company has stopped responding to support requests. AFAIK, SPB doesn't offer the ability to select but I may be wrong.
I'm curious about one thing though. When using things like PIM Backup, what usually happens is once I sync, all PIM Info gets duplicated (Active Sync thinks the data restored via PIM Backup is something "new"). Does anyone know a way to fool Outlook/Active Sync to not behave that way?
If like me you have meetings and contacts in the thousands, using Outlook/Activesync to restore PIM info to the phone after flashing a new ROM takes a really long time...
I can confirm that newest version of SPB Backup never worked for me on EnergyROMs. I could not connect to gsm network even on a same ROM. Sprite Backup works like a charm, but only on the same ROM. It is good just if you are installing something you never know what happens. So it could work just like some restore points in windows. As the guys here said, best method is to learn UC customizations, Sashimi, but i have to say, it is not that easy, for some people...
i work with SPB Backup with ROMeOS and it worked perfektly even on different ROM Versions. I tried to restore a backup made with SPB Backup under ROMeOS WWE and restored it under GENY GER Version, worked without Problems after changing some names/pathes in the registry (Speicherkarte => Storage Card etc) depending on the language. Not working links like Total Commander werent in the installation of GENY in the main memory; they run after installing TC in the windows directory; for me the Speed was absolutely ok, but i dunno, how fast it would be if you work with UC. I restored all my BUs since ROMeOS since version 1.4 until ver 2, but then i decided to install everything new, what took 2 weeks of braincooking but i got 50 MB more free RAM. Of course its better to install everything new, but if its a complex program & settingsstructure, with a lot of tweaks, colored task bars and so on it is much easier & faster to restore a BU...
SPB has the opportunity to choose which parts of BU you want to restore ... from complete restore (with ROM Upgrade mode/ phone Changing mode) over all or single databases to even single files, if i remember right...
Greetz
Boris
P.S.: i only worked with WM 6.1 ROMs
If I'm in the right mood I'll start a new thread under the general Raphael section because I think this does belong here to the ROM dev. section.
Just in a nutshell:
Sprite has and had major problems if the basic SYS changes dramatically (WinMo 6.1 to 6.5 or 6.5 to 6.5.3) thus I stopped using it BUT it has a nice but not really great working "Restore after ROM change feature".
My basic tricks are:
PIM Backup with SPB
Sync with MyPhone
XML changes (like program paths etc.) with Adv.Config
Install with Sashimi
Copy with Total Commander (programs, Opera settings and bookmarks).
Username and personal data either manual input or Sashimi.
This worked since WinMo 5.0 with no issues and it takes me ~ 30 minutes after a flash to be back 99.9%. I do have to install a few things manually
Don't have much time now so I'll post the link to the "How To" later today.
You can actually do a lot with just pimbackup. The custom option is pretty cool-it allows you to backup and restore custom files, much like sashimi does, except that once you set it up, it will do the backup for you instead of having to do it manually. If you uncheck the 'binary' option, you basically just get a zip file with a directory of all the files you selected for backup.
There's a lot that can go wrong using sprite or a similar app. Even if you don't restore registry settings, you might insert something into the startup folder that screws up your phone (it's easier than you'd think, lol). A week or so ago, I decided to try running a task manager at startup (IT Task, which is really cool), and for whatever reason, when you put a shortcut for it in the startup folder, you have major problems booting up the phone. After about 10 tries, I got lucky and the phone booted up, so I didn't have to do a hard reset (which I wasn't fully prepared for).
You're probably ok restoring with sprite if you stick to the same rom-line, but it could certainly be a mess if one chef stores apps in \program files but the new chef has them all in rom (in \windows). Then you'll end up with two copies of everything, which is a waste. It may work, but it's a lousy way to go.