I have an autoconfig set up that installs about 10 cabs. Most of them will not be updated since they are stable, and I was wondering if there was a benefit to adding some of these to my dcd 3.0.4 ROM instead. Would this change the available RAM?
No. Wether a file is built into the ROM or installed later will have no effect on available RAM. If you are having RAM issues I'd suggest removing unneeded items from your startup processes and/or uninstalling the major RAM hogs all together. Using a good task manager (that actually closes programs) and Oxios (or other memory cleaners) will also help.
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I was just wondering. I've been having issues with ram getting to low on my titan and programs shutting down automatically, most annoyingly of them, photo contacts. I read that WM6 requires a lot less Ram to run and thereby free up more ram for other programs. What are the main differences between 6.0 and 6.1?
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Which DCD are you currently using? 3.3.4 is very good on RAM. You should give it a try if you haven't. It runs WM6.1 though, not 6.0.
As for differences, I'm not entirely sure but I don't think the internal GPS was supported in 6.0 but I could be very wrong there.
Are you by any chance using 'Oxios Closeapps'? I use to use this religiously until I found out it was causing my background programs to close automatically. I now use 'Oxios Hibernate' and things are back to normal.
The DCD 3.3.4 ROM has more free RAM after a fresh install than any previous version I can recall, including the old WM6.0 ROM's he had.
Oxios or MemMaid are both great programs to help clear RAM when running low.
Which is better/necessary for maintaining max speed and free memory?
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
rlxurmnd said:
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
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You forgot a question mark.
The stock JI6 task manager and a shortcut to "running services". This will show you EXACTLY what's RUNNING on your phone. Key word is running!
rlxurmnd said:
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
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Well I don't know why the task related apps exist. If they didn't exist I wouldn't be asking the question.
the one with the JI6 is very useful for me.
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stevenmcneal83 said:
Well I don't know why the task related apps exist. If they didn't exist I wouldn't be asking the question.
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Some devs are stuck with the Windows Mobile mentality that Android requires task managers. Android will free the memory as needed, all you need is the stock J16 task manager if you'd like to close the occasional/accidentally left open app.
You guys are doing a very poor job of answering his question and most of it is misinformation.
Auto Killer is NOT a task killer. It is a memory optimizer. It basically uses the same system that is built into Android and modifies the intervals at which it clears memory. It does not kill tasks unless you specify it to.
For instance, default Vibrant is set to start freeing RAM from "empty" apps at 63 MB of RAM left. Empty apps are apps that have been sitting for awhile, not using cpu and not being used but are stored in RAM. You could see why these apps would be the first to go. Well, with Auto Killer, I can change the threshold to 98 MB so when it drops below that, the Android system frees up RAM from the apps that aren't being used.
Auto Killer is nowhere near the same as a task killer or task manager and it actually benefits your system greatly because it just modifies Android memory management system.
Again, the default Android system ALREADY starts clearing RAM automatically at 63 MB left meaning you will always have at least 63 MB of RAM unless you are using tons of apps at once, since they would all be active and Android will not free RAM from active apps unless you are critically low on memory. I'm talking less than 10MB. I like to have at least 98 MB left though so Auto Killer modifies that. Auto Killer does not modify the way Android handles apps, you just tell it the thresholds and then Android does its thing.
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You guys are doing a very poor job of answering his question and most of it is misinformation.
Auto Killer is NOT a task killer. It is a memory optimizer. It basically uses the same system that is built into Android and modifies the intervals at which it clears memory. It does not kill tasks unless you specify it to.
For instance, default Vibrant is set to start freeing RAM from "empty" apps at 63 MB of RAM left. Empty apps are apps that have been sitting for awhile, not using cpu and not being used but are stored in RAM. You could see why these apps would be the first to go. Well, with Auto Killer, I can change the threshold to 98 MB so when it drops below that, the Android system frees up RAM from the apps that aren't being used.
Auto Killer is nowhere near the same as a task killer or task manager and it actually benefits your system greatly because it just modifies Android memory management system.
Again, the default Android system ALREADY starts clearing RAM automatically at 63 MB left meaning you will always have at least 63 MB of RAM unless you are using tons of apps at once, since they would all be active and Android will not free RAM from active apps unless you are critically low on memory. I'm talking less than 10MB. I like to have at least 98 MB left though so Auto Killer modifies that. Auto Killer does not modify the way Android handles apps, you just tell it the thresholds and then Android does its thing.
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Awesome! Thanks so much for being thorough, I'm kinda new. One more quick question, since auto killer seems to be the best way to manage free memory, do I need to remove the task manager if I plan on using auto killer?
Yes. I use just auto killer. No task killer or anything. If I do need to close an app that is frozen or something, I just use the task manager built-in with JI6. Otherwise, just pressing the back button in 99% of all apps will properly close it.
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Yes. I use just auto killer. No task killer or anything. If I do need to close an app that is frozen or something, I just use the task manager built-in with JI6. Otherwise, just pressing the back button in 99% of all apps will properly close it.
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The built in task manager is the one I was referring to. The one that came included with fusion 1.1. So you currently have both auto killer and task manager on your phone? Forgive me for the confusion
Yes, but like I said, I only use it when I really need to close something which isn't that often. Like if a game I am playing freezes. When I am done with an app, just press the back button and it will close. Try it.
Open an app, press home then look in the task manager. It will be there.
Open the same app, press back, open the task manager and it won't. So using the task manager is like just for emergencies if the app won't close properly.
Thanks alot man
Ok our forums are rather in depth and involving, which makes finding information that could be rather old in the grand scheme of things but here's a question. How come when I go into my advance task killer there are always programs that I have not ran, running in the background and some of those programs I have never used. Every once I awhile I will get a dialog box saying that so many apps have between killed. Why is that?
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Some of these are necessary for the android system to function (like when you ctrl alt del in windows for example) others can be from things that update like weather widgets and others are just bloatware.
A lot of the things in the background that run are TSR programs, (terminate stay resident) Their impact is they take up some ram space but when these program ar not being used, they do not (or theoretically do not) have any impact on performance or battery. They facilitate speeding up the phone when they are called on to perform. This has been a standard in computing for 25 years. The most common or most needed routines are setup in this way.
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A lot of the things in the background that run are TSR programs, (terminate stay resident) Their impact is they take up some ram space but when these program ar not being used, they do not (or theoretically do not) have any impact on performance or battery. They facilitate speeding up the phone when they are called on to perform. This has been a standard in computing for 25 years. The most common or most needed routines are setup in this way.
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THIS. However, if you still have bloatware installed, those programs could be doing behind the scenes business as well.
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THIS. However, if you still have bloatware installed, those programs could be doing behind the scenes business as well.
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I wish you guys would stop telling users this ..... Advanced Task Killer DO NOT report in a smart way .. It basically just shows what is cached in the phone's memory, giving the user the illusion that the system is out of or going to run out of memory .... The reason google stopped these task killers from killing other apps is because in its auto kill function, a task killer will bog down the system while fighting to kill apps only to have them re open ..... The phone has a built in task killer, which ONLY shows running apps ( ones that are using CPU and memory) and will use androids memory manager to stop them ... If you are on xda and have not already rooted your phone, I would advise you to do it, download autokiller memory optimizer... This is not a task killer but a tool used to tweak the system's built in memory manager .... Its 200% safer and will keep your phone running smooth ..also once rooted you can delete apps that concern you, but be warned, some apps may be needed by the system and deleting them might cause issues, so please use good old common sense .... hopes this helps ....
Task killers should now be a thing of the past. Newer android OS's 2.0 and above do a much better job at managing running tasks all by themselves. I now only use the included task killer if one app has completely hung on me which is rare. I don't use task managers to kill all running tasks when running benchmarks either because all that does is cause those necessary tasks to start back up during the bench and thus lowering the overall score. Cool, we just had an earthquake.
just get the xda super power app, no task killer needed, has app specific section, that you can confiure every app by itself to be killed on screen off if is running.
Just curious why the free RAM shown in the task manager doesn't line up with the free RAM shown in Manage Applications/Running? For example right now in Manage Apps it shows I have 598MB free however task manager shows 261MB free. Obviously a huge difference between the two.
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> Running shows you actual free RAM plus the amount of RAM that can be recovered from closing cached/inactive apps.
Task Manager (and third-party system info/task manager apps) will generally only show only how much actual free RAM remains.
While it's true that inactive/cached apps are pre-loaded in RAM (similar to how Windows does with Superfetch), those apps aren't actually running and can be purged at any time when the system needs RAM for running processes and services. Therefore, the amount of RAM these cached apps are consuming should be considered free, and that's why you see it under Manage Applications.
Thanks for the quick reply! Yeah, I get how Android handles the memory I just didn't couldn't figure out why it was being displayed differently in those places. I appreciate the info.
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Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> Running shows you actual free RAM plus the amount of RAM that can be recovered from closing cached/inactive apps.
Task Manager (and third-party system info/task manager apps) will generally only show only how much actual free RAM remains.
While it's true that inactive/cached apps are pre-loaded in RAM (similar to how Windows does with Superfetch), those apps aren't actually running and can be purged at any time when the system needs RAM for running processes and services. Therefore, the amount of RAM these cached apps are consuming should be considered free, and that's why you see it under Manage Applications.
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Couldn't have said it better!
Glad to help.
I've have a Nexus 7 2012 running 4.3
On a clean install, the running apps tab in the settings showed Used RAM equal to 450 MB.
After installing some apps, now the Used RAM shows to be 560 MB.
I haven't installed apps that throw push ads or run background processes. I do have some free apps that show ads though.
I tried to stop cached processes an d running processes, bur that increased the RAM use. Even app ops doesn't list all my apps.
Is there any way I can reduce this RAM usage?
ROOT your phone and install GREENIFY app ...and for your problem,it a the ever existing problem of all android phones,in actual it's not a problem at all,ignore ram usage and enjoy your device,remember using task killers will drain your battery more faster ,as killed apps will again try to run and you will be trapped in this vicious circle.