I've seen a post about this for an older DCD ROm.
Do you notice your RAM slowly disappering over time.
Its so bad that in about 10 hours RAM can go from 20MB to 10MB.
Granted this is with opening and closing apps.
Has anyone been able to pinpoint the issue?
Is there a solution?
(example)
Currenly all apps ahve been shutdown
Total Free RAM 7MB
Now if i soft reset
Total Free RAM 17MB
There is clearly a caching issue. Or threads are left open.
CannonBaller said:
I've seen a post about this for an older DCD ROm.
Do you notice your RAM slowly disappering over time.
Its so bad that in about 10 hours RAM can go from 20MB to 10MB.
Granted this is with opening and closing apps.
Has anyone been able to pinpoint the issue?
Is there a solution?
(example)
Currenly all apps ahve been shutdown
Total Free RAM 7MB
Now if i soft reset
Total Free RAM 17MB
There is clearly a caching issue. Or threads are left open.
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Run OXIOS or wktask and it will reclaim most of that
I, too, notice this problem. Can anyone clarify if it is related to apps or ROMs? Some have said that HTC Home Plug causes it but I myself have not uninstalled that program to test. Also, are those programs, OXIOS, wktask, similar to MemMaid and SKTools? Because I have SKTools and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
I'm seeing these same issues...but I'm running 3.0.1. Is 3.1.2 any better for this?
thelionelking said:
I, too, notice this problem. Can anyone clarify if it is related to apps or ROMs? Some have said that HTC Home Plug causes it but I myself have not uninstalled that program to test. Also, are those programs, OXIOS, wktask, similar to MemMaid and SKTools? Because I have SKTools and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
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Your right SKtools doesn't release as much as other programs. I use Quickmenu (hibernate). I didnt want to believe it but HTC Home does cause leaks.
Keep in mind if you think its a cache problem you can always adjust the settings in the reg.
Older htc home have been known to have memleaks...Use like a 2.x version...Havent had a problem with it yet.
Can someone post a link to OXIOS?
ibenjakinov said:
Can someone post a link to OXIOS?
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Can be found at http://www.oxios.com/memory/
thelionelking said:
I, too, notice this problem. Can anyone clarify if it is related to apps or ROMs? Some have said that HTC Home Plug causes it but I myself have not uninstalled that program to test. Also, are those programs, OXIOS, wktask, similar to MemMaid and SKTools? Because I have SKTools and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
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I'm not running the HTC Home Plug, and the leak is still there.
Leak is probably the wrong word to use in this situation. Its more of a memory release problem. Since memory is lost as apps use it, but its not regained when the apps are closed.
Cutter said:
Your right SKtools doesn't release as much as other programs. I use Quickmenu (hibernate). I didnt want to believe it but HTC Home does cause leaks.
Keep in mind if you think its a cache problem you can always adjust the settings in the reg.
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Would you know hte reg keys involved?
Since memory is lost as apps use it, but its not regained when the apps are closed.
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1. How are you going about closing the programs?
2. What programs are you referring to?
CannonBaller said:
I'm not running the HTC Home Plug, and the leak is still there.
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There is HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser), and HTC Home plug/plugin. HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser) has the leak, not the plug/plugin. Can you confirm that you are NOT running HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser), and still have a leak? I've run 2.0.814.722 since February and don't seem to have much of a leak. It leaks, but never gets below 22MB free. I typically start with 24.59MB free on a fresh bootup.
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There is HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser), and HTC Home plug/plugin. HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser) has the leak, not the plug/plugin. Can you confirm that you are NOT running HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser), and still have a leak? I've run 2.0.814.722 since February and don't seem to have much of a leak. It leaks, but never gets below 22MB free. I typically start with 24.59MB free on a fresh bootup.
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I don't have any of these programs and I'm experiencing leaks. I typically start with 24MB on a fresh boot and work my way down to 9 or 10MB. It tends to hover around there.
gcincotta said:
1. How are you going about closing the programs?
2. What programs are you referring to?
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Any app....I maily use
LIve Messenger
Garmin XT
Email
SMS
So really any app. Whenever you open it, use it for a little while, close it, you won't get back the same amount of RAM. And im not talking 10 or 20Kbs...its more like 1-3MBs.
hoothrewpoo said:
There is HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser), and HTC Home plug/plugin. HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser) has the leak, not the plug/plugin. Can you confirm that you are NOT running HTC Home (ripped from the Kaiser), and still have a leak? I've run 2.0.814.722 since February and don't seem to have much of a leak. It leaks, but never gets below 22MB free. I typically start with 24.59MB free on a fresh bootup.
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Confirmed....no HTC home plugs of any sort.
88fingerslukee said:
I don't have any of these programs and I'm experiencing leaks. I typically start with 24MB on a fresh boot and work my way down to 9 or 10MB. It tends to hover around there.
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yes...exactly...this is the same this im facing.
When you loaded your ROM. Did you use the Kitchen or just the readymade ROM?
One BAD leak!
I had the problem with 3.1.2 flashed. It was so bad I went stock again.
No HTC Home,
SPB>pocket plus,wx, phone suite
MS Voice (my guess)
Core Player,
Mem Maid, SK tools and Pocket Mechanic
No reclaiming Ram will solve the leak I had.
Device would lock up after 6 hours.
(I did not flash from kitchen)
I have the leak as well. I have spb pocket plus and phone suite no htc home or others and I have live search. Mine starts at 20mb and drops as low as 6mb even using oxios and i usually only use it for email and texting. I believe it's live search that's causing the leak but even without the running the program its leaking. Could just having it installed cause it to have something running in the background and eating up all the memory?
i read somewhere that instances of the phone stay open after you "close" it. and mem progs don't seem to close it either. i was under the impression its a WM problem
CannonBaller said:
yes...exactly...this is the same this im facing.
When you loaded your ROM. Did you use the Kitchen or just the readymade ROM?
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I'm on the supplied ROM but I'm still using 3.0.1. It worked so well for me (besides the memory issue) that I feared changing anything.
I do not have SBP anything on the phone either.
I must say, the memory leak is a problem but it is nowhere near as bad as going back to the stock ROM. I'll never go back to that piece of garbage.
Related
A problem, for my important one, is that it occupies much memory.
It is to say..., in my single country exist maps for GARMIN XT and if I install MANILA DIALER does not load GARMIN to me XT by lack of memory, if I install plugins in the TODAY does not load the GARMIN to me by lack of memory...
Thanks!!!!!!!!!
I also have this issue with garmin mobile xt. This is not an issue with garmin only - i have it with all applications with high memory usage. Opera, netfront, album and garmin mobile xt have these issues for me.
I used before spb mobile shell on today screen / WM6 stock and I'm started applications from there - this causes lot of troubles for me now with AP4. It will work in first few attempts, but after few close/opens it seams like memory gets corrupted and any application from this affected list will not start at all. They are stuck but other small applications are working fine. Same issue with starting from HTC home and resco today plugin.
I tried multiple hard-resets, software configs and figured out only one solution for now. I have just simple default today's plugins and qickmenu. If I start applications from quickmenu everything appears to be fine - all can be started at once, no visible problems for now. As soon I use application start from today screen - applications will not start correctly, no error message, nothing. It just does not start - for example opera, loading popup will be shown forever.
I'm also tried with hard-reseted rom without any application installed. Same effect with opera - it will not start after few application started.
Do you have issues with other applications or just garmin mobile?
I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
eagle 1 said:
I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
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you say the pre release worked better. so that makes me wonder if the reason for the memory problems isnt the new manila sip. i think i need to do a beta of a potential 4.1 and try to get the rom right this time. few more issues need to be fixed and i'll have a public 4.1 beta available.
Pawel062 said:
you say the pre release worked better. so that makes me wonder if the reason for the memory problems isnt the new manila sip. i think i need to do a beta of a potential 4.1 and try to get the rom right this time. few more issues need to be fixed and i'll have a public 4.1 beta available.
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Pawel... my English is not very good... (Speak spanish and translate ALTAVISTA) are working in a new version that occupied less memory?
Thanks.
eagle 1 said:
I also find that memory usage in base rom is too high. A lot of apps just refuse to start. Opera only works less than half the time, even if nothing else is running. Tom Tom only work 7 out 10 times. Movies tend to stutter after a few minutes. I have shut off vueflo, touchflo, removed some items in windows/startup and still device is not very usable. ALso, changed some registry tweaks with sktools, and schaps config, better but still issues.
I had a lot of high hopes for AP4, but am finding it not very useful for running applications. Opera is useless now. Who cares if it is a newer version if it hardly ever works. Actually, I found the Pre-Reease version worked better. I mean if you can't use today pluggins, kinda of makes the device crippled. Oh well, I guess back to using my kasier, until something is changed to make the device better.
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Hello, Eagle, from where I can remove that previous version (Pre-Release version)?
Montecristo said:
Hello, Eagle, from where I can remove that previous version (Pre-Release version)?
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Sorry Pre-release version is not available.
As pawel stated, he is working on another version that may use less memory.
After reading over my post, it seems a bit harsh. I did not mean for it to come across that way. A lot of work went into AP4 and sounds like more will come from the team.
Pawel, I see dutty commented on the AP4 and that he was going to try it out. Ever think about trying to get him to collaborate with the AP4 team. He is a great rom builder and seems to put out Roms (always better) every couple of weeks with the latest wm versions for the kaiser.
eagle 1 said:
Sorry Pre-release version is not available.
As pawel stated, he is working on another version that may use less memory.
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@dutty: welcome, some suggestion for AP4.1?
@Pawel
I am testing AP4, at system's startup, 63.52 Mb free (100.83 Total) with Memmaid only
Having Memmaid, Mail, PocketCM(2.1), Resco 2007, Today Agenda, HTC HOME VGA and Audio Manager active 43.36 Mb free
Adding windows media, opera (default page), tom tom 6, I still have 37 Mb free
Adding large pages to opera (www.repubblica.it, big page, and xda developers in a second tab), Internet Explorer (www.repubblica.it ), I have 22Mb free, more than some TyTN!
From the "plain AP4" I tweaked the system for speed, (many tools can to the same, including Schaps advanced config), removed HTC home using HTC_HOME_VGA
I can't believe in a real low memory problem! I confirm the feeling about the system seems "to hang" sometime when many applications are opened, waiting 10-15 seconds everything is working again and is still responsive.
May be the problems reported are buffer problem, a cache problem..., low resources problem, instead of a simple low memory.
I've closed memmaid and it seems to freeze for a while , tapping on upper's bar application tab nothing happens (Yes, I forgot, I am using wtask and quickmenu too) , but after 8-10 sec is working again and is fast!
Windows error messages are liers sometime (many...) !
sergiopi said:
@dutty: welcome, some suggestion for AP4.1?
@Pawel
I am testing AP4, at system's startup, 63.52 Mb free (100.83 Total) with Memmaid only
Having Memmaid, Mail, PocketCM(2.1), Resco 2007, Today Agenda, HTC HOME VGA and Audio Manager active 43.36 Mb free
Adding windows media, opera (default page), tom tom 6, I still have 37 Mb free
Adding large pages to opera (www.repubblica.it, big page, and xda developers in a second tab), Internet Explorer (www.repubblica.it ), I have 22Mb free, more than some TyTN!
From the "plain AP4" I tweaked the system for speed, (many tools can to the same, including Schaps advanced config), removed HTC home using HTC_HOME_VGA
I can't believe in a real low memory problem! I confirm the feeling about the system seems "to hang" sometime when many applications are opened, waiting 10-15 seconds everything is working again and is still responsive.
May be the problems reported are buffer problem, a cache problem..., low resources problem, instead of a simple low memory.
I've closed memmaid and it seems to freeze for a while , tapping on upper bar application tab nothing happens (Yes, I forgot, I am using wtask and quickmenu too) , but after 8-10 sec is working again and is fast!
Windows error messages are liers sometime (many...) !
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and which two explanation you find him to that if I have plugins in today, GARMIN XT does not start and if them exempt if?
If I have installed MANILA DIALER, GARMIN XT to not it starts me and if exempt it, if?
Montecristo said:
and which two explanation you find him to that if I have plugins in today, GARMIN XT does not start and if them exempt if?
If I have installed MANILA DIALER, GARMIN XT to not it starts me and if exempt it, if?
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Low resources, badly written SW (Manila Dialer, Today's Plugins or Garmin XT), many other explanations. Don't trust in windows errors codes, from Vista to CE, they are only a trace!
Does anyone else have an issue with gwes.exe using more and more RAM? After a soft reset it's at about 2.4mb of RAM usage. After a day or two it's around 6-8mb.
It could very well be some of the software or Today plugins I'm running but I don't think I'm running anything different than before. I'd really like to find this issue.
Today plugins I'm running:
- S2U2 1.05
- BatteryStatus 1.05.103
- PhoneAlarm 1.66.2
- SPB PocketPlus 4.0.2
- SPB Diary 2.5.8
- SBSH PocketWeather 2.0.4
I also have FlexMail 4.0 running the background most of the time and I have installed CooTek TouchPal 3.5.
I could be wrong, but I believe this is just a general windows mobile issue. there has been memory leak issues since before wm6.0 which required resets after significant use.
You could be right but I didn't see an issue until recently.
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Does anyone else have an issue with gwes.exe using more and more RAM? After a soft reset it's at about 2.4mb of RAM usage. After a day or two it's around 6-8mb.
It could very well be some of the software or Today plugins I'm running but I don't think I'm running anything different than before. I'd really like to find this issue.
Today plugins I'm running:
- S2U2 1.05
- BatteryStatus 1.05.103
- PhoneAlarm 1.66.2
- SPB PocketPlus 4.0.2
- SPB Diary 2.5.8
- SBSH PocketWeather 2.0.4
I also have FlexMail 4.0 running the background most of the time and I have installed CooTek TouchPal 3.5.
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I'm pretty sure I've read in a few places that the SPB apps will drain a bit, so I mostly go with an alternative if possible on those. I've also experienced a leak with S2U2 when I'm using a really big animated .gif, but other than that, it seemed ok. Can't speak to PhoneAlarm much, but I've been using BatteryStatus since I had my HTC Wizard, and it's a great app that is usually the first I install when I switch ROMs, which seems like several times a month.
I'll be honest, I'm overly addicted to ensuring I have a lot of memory at all times...If it goes below 18MB free I'm freaking out.
You might try hard resetting your phone after backing up what you can, and starting fresh. Install one app at a time, and give yourself some time between that and installing the next one to see if you can isolate it. That's what I do when I get an app that does that, and it seems to work pretty well.
You could also try ACBTaskman, it has the ability to log processes and battery drain, etc. It's ten bucks or less, I'm not sure there's a free app that's quite as nice for logging. Try that, or search for a free equivalent, and monitor the rise and fall of your memory, cpu, battery, etc to a file for a few hours.
I hope someone will ever mod the WM6.1 to be ligher so we can run it without so many memory issues on the Titan.
Daved+ said:
I hope someone will ever mod the WM6.1 to be ligher so we can run it without so many memory issues on the Titan.
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To its defense though, WM6.1 is much better at managing the memory that it does have, so you can be running at 5MB free and for the most part run just like you would if you had 25.
That doesn't really get us anywhere though, because the lack of our RAM internally. 25MB free at startup with the Titan is pretty good. It does suck that we don't have more, but everything I run seems to run pretty well for me anyway, so I don't complain too often.
I have no issue with the limited amount of RAM if it can be cleared up. This gwes.exe keeps growing from ~2.4mb up to 4.5mb in half a day.
kmartburrito said:
25MB free at startup with the Titan is pretty good.
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What ROM are you running to get 25MB free at startup?
I get 17MB with my own cooked ROM. I used to get 21MB with the same settings and apps on my old Apache.
I had enabled Error reporting and When I invoke an application (for ex : Test.exe) I'll get gwes.exe error msg on WM 5 and if I use the same application on WM 6.1(HTC touch Diamond) I'll Test.exe error.
If I disable error reporting no such error msg will pop up.
How i can solve this in the application?
Is their a way to see what applications are starting up and running in memory when you power on your phone, and also see what's running when you are using your phone and eating up your memory and stoping them from starting up? I"m having a problem with my memory getting eaten up and the, "Running Program List" is showing that nothing is running. As I use the phone the memory gets even lower even though nothing is showing up as running in Task Manager. I keep having running out of memory errors. When I turn off and on my phone I only have about 12MB of program memory free. If I use the phone for a little bit it gets down to 9MB or so even after I end any tasks that are running. It's becoming a real big issue. I would also like to keep ActiveSync for automatically starting up everytime I turn on the phone. Thanks for the help and time.
wow 12 on startup? Looks to me, you should first flash to a new ROM, take for example- dCd's 3.2.6 which gives roughly 25 MB on startup..
You can use MemMaid to help you see whats running on startup and you can also disable them through MemMaid. Another cool feature it has is the Registry Tweaks, Optimize it for Memory and you'll have a nice amount of RAM on startup as well
Also, Titan's been known to have memory leaks all the time, use programs like Oxios Hibernate to reclaim stale RAM, soft reset on a daily basis and you should be ok
He's already running DCD3.2.6 according to his signature.
I'd suggest posting everything you have installed along with what Today plug-ins you have running and maybe someone can help you out.
A hard reset should put you back to a blank slate if you're willing to go that far to solve your problem...
Apota said:
I keep having running out of memory errors. When I turn off and on my phone I only have about 12MB of program memory free. .
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Are you running MS Voice Command by any chance?? That program is one of the worst memory hogs I have ever seen & also has a bad memory leak so the longer it's running the worse it gets.
~John
Quick Menu is an awesome, small, free program that that shows you in the start menu which programs are running. You can also set Quick Menu to "totally close" the program when click "X" or "ok". I love this program.
I already have 3.2.6. Is there any free programs that will free up the memory? I've spent so much money on software for my phone and it's getting really expensive. I couldn't figure out where memory tweaks where to optimize for memory... I stopped a few programs from starting up and that helped just a little bit. They were the voice software that came with the kitchen and something called TaskFacade.
I'm also have a big problem with the stylus. It won't stay in the hole anymore. The second I put it in it falls out. Am I going to have to replace my whole phone? Thanks..
JokeZony0u said:
wow 12 on startup? Looks to me, you should first flash to a new ROM, take for example- dCd's 3.2.6 which gives roughly 25 MB on startup..
You can use MemMaid to help you see whats running on startup and you can also disable them through MemMaid. Another cool feature it has is the Registry Tweaks, Optimize it for Memory and you'll have a nice amount of RAM on startup as well
Also, Titan's been known to have memory leaks all the time, use programs like Oxios Hibernate to reclaim stale RAM, soft reset on a daily basis and you should be ok
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Apota said:
I already have 3.2.6. Is there any free programs that will free up the memory? I've spent so much money on software for my phone and it's getting really expensive. I couldn't figure out where memory tweaks where to optimize for memory... I stopped a few programs from starting up and that helped just a little bit. They were the voice software that came with the kitchen and something called TaskFacade.
I'm also have a big problem with the stylus. It won't stay in the hole anymore. The second I put it in it falls out. Am I going to have to replace my whole phone? Thanks..
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hm, I had the same problem with the stylus and I slipped the extra one that came with it and it stayed in place. But if that doesn't work- then it really is the phone's molding that was messed up..what you can do is put a piece of electric tape around the stylus and hope that the tape would be big enough to hold it back in place.
As for the free program, its called Oxios Memory, here's the link..I use it so much, I assigned it to one of my buttons, generally it'll clear up any stale RAM and should if anything give you back several percent- here's the link:
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As for MemMaid, just go to "Jump to" and you'll see Tweaks or something along those lines, btw Apota, check your PM
memory leak or plug in
I am using xv6800 with the mr1 upgrade
thanx jokezonyou for the link it helped and cleared 2mb for me
prob is a poss memory leak
20 mb at start up
13 mb 5 hrs later with no progs runnin
on my today screen I am using
CLAUNCH-so customizable
GOOGLE SEARCH BAR
BATTI_ battery status bar
programs I have dumped in an effort to free up pwr (really wantt them back)
SECOND TODAY
WIRESPEED-the only prgm used thru second today
RC mod- best free color modifier for wm6 I can find
a cooler fully customizable interface would be great but I have given up my search because I don't have pwr to run anything
tried memmaid and the results aren't that great for me....
I have SPB BACKUP which has a task mgr thatallows u to see runnin apps and not just programs but the numbers of usage don't add up and I don't understand what the processes are anyway
sorry so long winded I been searching everywher
overclockin not possible right?
heatd1 said:
I am using xv6800 with the mr1 upgrade
thanx jokezonyou for the link it helped and cleared 2mb for me
prob is a poss memory leak
20 mb at start up
13 mb 5 hrs later with no progs runnin
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What ROM are you running? Yes, the Titan does have a memory leak problem..as do most HTC products, the only reason we, Titan users, feel this leak so often is because we only have 64 MB of it and well..64 MB of RAM really isn't much.
What other software do you have installed on your Titan? And what do you have running at all times?
I have quite a number of programs installed...but after Oxios on startup, I have roughly 23 MB of RAM- only because I've installed some nifty programs that I really like
thanks for the quick response noobiville is a dark and cold place
ROM?
as in stock rom with mr1 update?
a simple leak explains a lot though my phone is loadeed with apps
currently i'm usin:
CLAUNCH-I have a lot of shrtcuts on my today
WIRESPEED is installed on my SECOND TODAY SCREEN I only have word mobile shortcuts on this screen
BATTI, GOOGLE TODAY SEARCH BAR, HTC (audio manager, audio boost, equalizer)
I have other prgrams but they shoudnt be part off my "activate on power up" list and are only plug-ins and shortcuts for my CLAUNCH ( I have maybe 40)
too many short-cuts and plug-ins....possible culprit?
WISH LIST:
MANILLA 2d. do I have the memory to run it?
all white theme, tsk and dailer...no lines no bars jus words and icons
heatd1 said:
thanks for the quick response noobiville is a dark and cold place
ROM?
as in stock rom with mr1 update?
a simple leak explains a lot though my phone is loadeed with apps
currently i'm usin:
CLAUNCH-I have a lot of shrtcuts on my today
WIRESPEED is installed on my SECOND TODAY SCREEN I only have word mobile shortcuts on this screen
BATTI, GOOGLE TODAY SEARCH BAR, HTC (audio manager, audio boost, equalizer)
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Well, consider flashing to dCd's 3.2.6 ROM, it has roughly 25 MB of RAM on startup, its a stripped down version of WM 6.1, if you don't like it, well you can flash back to the one you have. Of course, the only major hassle doing that is losing all the data on your phone.
Having too many programs installed is a problem as well, consider removing some programs if you don't really use it often. Like Google Search bar? Why not just turn hit the Internet explorer button, save Google as a favorite and search that way? Its roughly the same. I never used 2 Today screens, as I mainly use my phone for professional or personal use..so I never found a use for something like that, so I don't know if that's a memory hog, but does sound like one..someone should clarify this.
As for M2D with a white theme etc, it replaces your entire today screen, whether the 2nd Today screen will work, I don't know. But in general, expect M2D to take about 8-10% more of your RAM. I've used it before and for what it does, its..between worth it and not worth the 10%. It does contain a very finger friendly use, but keep in mind, it still doesn't go landscape (at least not with MBarvian's mod) and similar apps can do what it does, only it doesn't look as nice.
Try to keep your programs to a minimum- I have 13 apps on my phone, but most are for cleaning RAM or closing programs down. On startup, I am on 52% (I installed a custom dialer, boosting the RAM usage to 2MB higher, w/o it I have roughly 49%). Here's what I have:
AOL Instant Messenger (TM) 2.0
Dinarsoft MemMaid
MBarvian OpalPhone Canvas- the dialer I spoke about- its great!
Microsoft Live Search
Oxios Memory
Spb Diary
Spb Pocket Plus
Spb Weather (since it can be integrated into the Diary)
Sprint Picture Mail
Sprint TV
nueUSB to PC- allows the phone to be read as a flash drive instead of going through ActiveSync (pretty useful)
Xda-Team Task Manager
Yahoo! Go
I still have 139.49 MB free on the device and after a day's use, I have roughly 13 MB of RAM. Remember to also soft-reset everyday to reclaim the RAM you lost
memory issues
thanx for the info its puts things in perspectiv
the SECOND TODAY/WIRESPEED combo is so that I may access my current projcts in mobile word files immediately (i'm a music producer and I must get ideas down immediately)
my google bar is what I use most it makes my 40 google searches a day so much more convenient
I think my memory leak is linked to my IE...my memory doesn't start dissapearing till I have activated it
-IEcache too large?
-optimun size for cache?
I plan on using either opera or even skyfire if my RAM permits
I will try the dialer and I need nuestorage as well..so thanx
on to cookin...I have no idea what the process is like. I have insurance and I also have 2 xv6800 not in use that I can expirement on. I don't mind the reset if I come out with btter phone
I AM DUE FOR A HARD RESET JUST WAITIN TO SEE IF I'LL BE COOKIN OR NOT
read somewhere I should revert back to stock ROM b4 cooking....true?
and i've given up on animated interfaces as efficiency is most important to me...not it being cool lookin
thanx for illuminating noobiville for me..I been wandering in the dark too long
JokeZony0u:
Did you cook dcd rom without dialer then ran File name: MBarvianOpalPhoneCanvas.cab File size: 4.24 MB?
cooking
my knowledge of cooking is not to a point where i'm ready to go for it jus yet.
I am willing to expirement with my back-up unit tho
any screenshots of the dailer I just finding the cab
can I install the dailer on my already fully functionin device o should there be no dailr in my phone when I install
THANX FOR OXIOS HIBERNATE
since I have been watchin my IE I realize my prob is prolly there
I shall continue my research on cooking
Here are screenshots. http://mbarvian.freehostia.com/2008...de-applications-cab-and-oem-package-included/
I installed on top of original titan dialer and it seems to work. It looks nice. I did not get much free ram. I will probably go back to original because I want the DIAL button on screen.
heatd1 said:
my knowledge of cooking is not to a point where i'm ready to go for it jus yet.
I am willing to expirement with my back-up unit tho
any screenshots of the dailer I just finding the cab
can I install the dailer on my already fully functionin device o should there be no dailr in my phone when I install
THANX FOR OXIOS HIBERNATE
since I have been watchin my IE I realize my prob is prolly there
I shall continue my research on cooking
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heatd1 said:
my knowledge of cooking is not to a point where i'm ready to go for it jus yet.
I am willing to expirement with my back-up unit tho
any screenshots of the dailer I just finding the cab
can I install the dailer on my already fully functionin device o should there be no dailr in my phone when I install
THANX FOR OXIOS HIBERNATE
since I have been watchin my IE I realize my prob is prolly there
I shall continue my research on cooking
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Hey, I couldn't help but notice that your looking for manilla2d. I personally love it and have the titan. And yes memory can be a problem with the titan, so having m2d cooked in has been awesome. I dont' know if you have seen it but scrosler (sp) has made a ROM with dcd 3.2.6 (best kitchen imho) and added touchflo m2d to the mix. Its on this forum right below ur thread.
It is very cool in that you get to choose the majority of the apps that go with it, as he cooks them into the ROM as cabs you run, and its ready for ANY carrier. His fourth ROM os it is running nice on my titan and looks so sweet plus oxio hibernate is already cooked in to the rom too. I use IE to go to facebook all the time, and when i'm done i close it, have oxio set to a hardware button, run it and i'm back to at least 18mb again (with m2d running!!)
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It is very cool in that you get to choose the majority of the apps that go with it, as he cooks them into the ROM as cabs you run, and its ready for ANY carrier. His fourth ROM os it is running nice on my titan and looks so sweet plus oxio hibernate is already cooked in to the rom too. I use IE to go to facebook all the time, and when i'm done i close it, have oxio set to a hardware button, run it and i'm back to at least 18mb again (with m2d running!!)
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wow that's pretty sweet!
@ Flagmax: I didn't cook it into the ROM mainly because I don't really have time lately to be cookin in the kitchen, haha. Instead I just ran the CAB file and installed it.
@ heatd1: Hm..it could be a possibility that its IE that's killing your RAM. Whether its the cache size or so..I'm not quite sure..it could be a reason. A good thing to do though is, close your IE (not "minimizing" it)when you're done with it. Try using MemMaid and "Optimizing it" to see if it makes a difference on your RAM upon startup. There is a free trial before you need to purchase it- PM ME and let me know if need help with this.
As for cooking, if you're afraid of messing up the device because of a cookin' gone wrong and you want to claim insurance, you MUST flash back to the stock ROMs offered by your carrier. There have been stories of insurance companies not willing to give another device because of custom ROMs. So before you send your phone back, make sure its in a stock ROM.
The dialer on the other hand, is simply visually appealing to me. It technically has no functionality that is "needed". The slide to answer or slide to ignore is pretty neat and I like how it gives a little vibrate when it connects. On top of that, I like how it gives an option to send the caller a text message saying "I'm busy at the moment, please call me again later" (or something along those lines). I used to have Spb Phone Suite to do something like that, but now that I have this dialer, I removed it.
thanx
i'm not too worried about that too much...u can fry a phne without a kitchen trust me.. I have done it more than once.
my concerns are making sure my device is functional 24/7 I can't afford for, say, txt msging or my oulook not to work for more than 6-7 hours because I have had an incident it will cost me the lil money I make in the last days of Bush-a-nomics
have a backup phone so if gets ugly I will switch. or can use it for trial runs
my other concern is speed and functionability
don't need pretty interfaces I really just want all white screens nor nav bars no today lines no words...just icons for my today phone andevery other screen (theme gen won't do this or my favorite app RC MOD won't either)
claunch gives me the option of jus puttin icons directly onn my today
MEMMAID I have used this program often
what is the difference between the optimization for "memory" and "speed" if my phone gets slo because it doesn't have enough RAM memory
there so much inf on cooking what are the "must read before proceeding"s
I have read more threads than I wanna admit but I really need the step by step of it
from what I gather following the instructions to the letter is everything
obviously I can get long winded..sorry
i'm so anxious to leave noobiville
and you've been such a big help
did I say thanx for OXIOS?
Haha, well you're very welcome for Oxios. Giving a helping hand to a fellow xda fan is always great.
I've found from my experiences that optimizing for Memory over Speed actually starts the phone off with more RAM. You should try both and see which one works best for you.
You don't necessarily need to customize a ROM. If you find a ROM that fits your needs, than by all means just use it w/o the customizations. Its always best to just do that first before you start cooking up a custom ROM.
As to not having the bars, there's an application called nueNoBar, which will effectively remove the bottom bar of your Today screen but keeping the functionality of the softkey assignments. This app along with several other apps (that you might find handy) can be found here:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/Pocket-PC.aspx
As for having an "icon" on your today screen, consider the program: Spb Pocket Plus. It has the ability to simply "right click" on a file and "Send it to the Today Screen", effectively leaving a shortcut on the Today screen under one of its tabs. Along with that, it has the ability to let u scroll around IE like the iPhone does with finger flicking (this also applies to other places like File Explorer etc..) and also lets you open up multiple tabs in Internet Explorer. Aside from those functions, it also has a "Safe Mode" in case you ever screw up your phone and need to uninstall something when your phone crashes. All this- PLUS it adds a button mapper functionality to your phone, allowing you to map specific apps to the hardware of the phone. This program isn't free, but its a suggestion that you might find helpful. Here's the link:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/screenshots.html?en
Once again, you're very welcome for anything, and if anything..you can simply continue posting here. I check xda pretty often (as you may have noticed)
thanx
i'm not too worried about that too much...u can fry a phne without a kitchen trust me.. I have done it more than once.
my concerns are making sure my device is functional 24/7 I can't afford for, say, txt msging or my oulook not to work for more than 6-7 hours because I have had an incident it will cost me the lil money I make in the last days of Bush-a-nomics
have a backup phone so if gets ugly I will switch. or can use it for trial runs
my other concern is speed and functionability
don't need pretty interfaces I really just want all white screens nor nav bars no today lines no words...just icons for my today phone andevery other screen (theme gen won't do this or my favorite app RC MOD won't either)
claunch gives me the option of jus puttin icons directly onn my today
MEMMAID I have used this program often
what is the difference between the optimization for "memory" and "speed" if my phone gets slo because it doesn't have enough RAM memory
there so much inf on cooking what are the "must read before proceeding"s
I have read more threads than I wanna admit but I really need the step by step of it
from what I gather following the instructions to the letter is everything
obviously I can get long winded..sorry
i'm so anxious to leave noobiville
and you've been such a big help
did I say thanx for OXIOS?
Just got an HD2, and after looking for a good task manager found this awesome app TaskFacade 4. Unfortunately the dev appears to have stopped development for it, and the HD2 is just too fast for the app. I was bored, so I decompiled it (it's .net so that's easy) and made some minor fixes.
Anyway, here's what I fixed:
4.02 fixed by aussiebum (thanks aussiebum! ):
1. Fixed names of shortcuts.
2. Changed default destination directory to install on a storage card when selected.
4.02 changelist:
1. Fixed a memory leak that occurred when an app was started and closed outside of Task Facade.
2. Cleaned up Layout config page.
3. Cleaned up config file loading to minimize potential errors due to old and incompatible config files.
4.01 changelist:
1. Increased maximum number of frames for zoom-unzoom animation.
2. Added an optional sleep between frames to smooth out animation and reduce amount of resources used by the app.
3. Fixed a minor race condition which sometimes caused an updated icon to flash through just reactivated app.
Attaching latest version. Works perfectly on my HD2. Check it out.
Attaching screenshots.
YouTube video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFZHZb5cX9A
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... Thanks!
Possible to get some screens.
I usually feel that task managers drain the battery a bit. How about this one?
Added screenshots. I just got this phone, so it's hard for me to judge its impact on the battery life. I will do some experiments.
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
Mr. spacepants, why don't you fix even "klaxon" , as the source is free, because gives problems with HD2.. to dismiss/snooze an alarm needs to unlock the phone first
have original taskfacade 4 on my hd2 it works fine except for the reasons you gave for making the new one.
tried it last night and it came up with something like the settings wouldnt load. i sot reset hoping thats all it needed but it still didnt work.
then my phone started having the led blink non stop.
so i uninstalled and put the original back on.
soft reset many times and tried tweaks to get the light off and eventually it stopped.
overall the program didnt work and no idea if led was unrelated
jolas said:
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
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spacepants,
Your modification causes me the same problem.
Is it possible to make TaskFacade run as a service?
jolas said:
Excellent try!!!
I used to use TaskFacade on my HD, but I always got the problem of gwes.exe growing larger and larger when usin TF, so I had to unistall it.
Can you manage to correct this problem?
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I just tried it today. After about 20 hours of running, with many task switches gwes.exe grew from 4.73 MB to 4.85 MB. And I am not sure if this was because of the TaskFacade - I didn't see any connection between its growth and app usage.
I am pretty sure I didn't fix this. Did you use version 4 when you saw this behavior? I guess it could also be thanks to a fix made in WinMo 6.5.
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spacepants,
Your modification causes me the same problem.
Is it possible to make TaskFacade run as a service?
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Huh, strange. I am not seeing this. Do you have any repro steps? Also what are you running it on - which WM version?
lbhocky19 said:
have original taskfacade 4 on my hd2 it works fine except for the reasons you gave for making the new one.
tried it last night and it came up with something like the settings wouldnt load. i sot reset hoping thats all it needed but it still didnt work.
then my phone started having the led blink non stop.
so i uninstalled and put the original back on.
soft reset many times and tried tweaks to get the light off and eventually it stopped.
overall the program didnt work and no idea if led was unrelated
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Crap, sorry for all the trouble. I don't see how the app could have made the LED blink - it has no code that would call that API. Are you sure it's related to TaskFacade?
I am fixing the dependence of the app on the config file. It sounds like the installer didn't work for you for some reason, since it should have replaced everything.
Thanks for giving it a shot.
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Huh, strange. I am not seeing this. Do you have any repro steps? Also what are you running it on - which WM version?
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Now, I'm on WM6.5.5 (23542 build), with sense 2.5.20121225.0.
Let's say that gwes.exe is consuming 38MB before I use TaskFacade.
Right after I run TF, it raises to about 42,7MB and it keeps raising when I use new programs. There is a point above that, I loose HTC menus and standard WM menus are displaying instead.
After a few time gwes.exe stabilizes it size to about 44-45MB.
I don't know if there use some kind os issues when using TF in Touch HD, because it has the same effect with different ROMs I tested.
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Now, I'm on WM6.5.5 (23542 build), with sense 2.5.20121225.0.
Let's say that gwes.exe is consuming 38MB before I use TaskFacade.
Right after I run TF, it raises to about 42,7MB and it keeps raising when I use new programs. There is a point above that, I loose HTC menus and standard WM menus are displaying instead.
After a few time gwes.exe stabilizes it size to about 44-45MB.
I don't know if there use some kind os issues when using TF in Touch HD, because it has the same effect with different ROMs I tested.
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I think I may have found the problem, but without a way to repro the bug I can't be sure I fixed it. Looks like gwes.exe can in some cases cache images that are in use, and if you do not explicitly dispose of them, the cache keeps growing.
I am not sure why I am not seeing this on my HD2. I have a Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2 lying around here - I will see if I can get a repro with them tomorrow, and test the potential fix.
Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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It depends on which app you use to determine it: sktools separates process and heap (so the measure is lower) while, for example, memmaid keeps it together (and thus the measure is higher).
Anyway, to give an example, with Manila and iPhoneToday my gwes at startup is 13.6 mb with sktools and 42mb with memmaid
btw, i too (blackstone) have problems with TF as jolas: after a short while i lose manila menus AND TF, also if in foreground, is not visible (it's there, since if i blind click somewhere i go to a different task, but i cannot see anything)
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I think I may have found the problem, but without a way to repro the bug I can't be sure I fixed it. Looks like gwes.exe can in some cases cache images that are in use, and if you do not explicitly dispose of them, the cache keeps growing.
I am not sure why I am not seeing this on my HD2. I have a Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2 lying around here - I will see if I can get a repro with them tomorrow, and test the potential fix.
Weird that your gwes.exe at the beginning is already 38 MB - I haven't seen mine go above 6 MB. It sounds like some other program on your phone may already have a problem.
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Sorry, I was not very clear. When I said that my gwes.exe is 38MB, I mean at a random point (after a few hours of use), not after a soft reset.
As for the gwes.exe and caching images, I believe that you are right...
I hope you to find a solution, to make possible for me to use TF.
Thanks for your effords!!!
bbonzz said:
It depends on which app you use to determine it: sktools separates process and heap (so the measure is lower) while, for example, memmaid keeps it together (and thus the measure is higher).
Anyway, to give an example, with Manila and iPhoneToday my gwes at startup is 13.6 mb with sktools and 42mb with memmaid
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You are right! For my measure I use memmaid, after a soft reset gwes.exe is about 21MB...
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btw, i too (blackstone) have problems with TF as jolas: after a short while i lose manila menus AND TF, also if in foreground, is not visible (it's there, since if i blind click somewhere i go to a different task, but i cannot see anything)
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Yes, this is exactly the problem I have, too.
Are there other HD users who face the same problem with TF, or we are the only 'lucky'?
yeah i have no idea how it would have done anything to the led but it definetly happened right after installing ?
il give the next cab a shot though and see if it installs properly
jolas said:
You are right! For my measure I use memmaid, after a soft reset gwes.exe is about 21MB...
Yes, this is exactly the problem I have, too.
Are there other HD users who face the same problem with TF, or we are the only 'lucky'?
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Strange, I still can't repro this. Tried it on a couple of Energy ROMs on my Touch Pro 2 (one based on 21898, the other on 23554) - nothing. At best I get a 50k growth in gwes.exe every time a program starts and closes. I am using Task Manager 3.1 for measurements BTW, but memmaid concurs.
OK, if this doesn't repro on my Kaiser I am going to write a quick test program and try running through the normal operations of the app several thousand times to see if that has any effect.
Could you confirm that the steps you are using to get into this state? Are they the following?
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade.
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app from TaskFacade.
6. Go to step 1.
Thanks again for trying this out, BTW.
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Strange, I still can't repro this. Tried it on a couple of Energy ROMs on my Touch Pro 2 (one based on 21898, the other on 23554) - nothing. At best I get a 50k growth in gwes.exe every time a program starts and closes. I am using Task Manager 3.1 for measurements BTW, but memmaid concurs.
OK, if this doesn't repro on my Kaiser I am going to write a quick test program and try running through the normal operations of the app several thousand times to see if that has any effect.
Could you confirm that the steps you are using to get into this state? Are they the following?
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade.
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app from TaskFacade.
6. Go to step 1.
Thanks again for trying this out, BTW.
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I want to thank you for keep searching about the problem I face.
The steps I usually do are:
1. Start an app.
2. Minimize the app.
3. Open TaskFacade (I have assign it to a hardware key via AEButton Plus)
4. Switch to the app.
5. Close the app.
6. Go to step 1.
I am grateful for your work!
If you want, I could try your test versions to resolve the problem I face.
Thank you!
What button are you assigning taskfacade to and what app are you using to do it? I tried aebuttons and it fails to map the volume up and down on the T-Mobile US version of HD2...not sure about other keys.
i have used all coocked roms for days and every rom has a huge usage of ram
i think it drains so much ram because of some tosh apps
so i am asking ....would the ram usage be lower if we remove any tosh app
powermanagement for example runs as i think all the time
srry for my bad english
Hamido123 said:
i have used all coocked roms for days and every rom has a huge usage of ram
i think it drains so much ram because of some tosh apps
so i am asking ....would the ram usage be lower if we remove any tosh app
powermanagement for example runs as i think all the time
srry for my bad english
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Yes, there is something wrong with memory usage for sure. However, ram usage and rom usage are not linked, rom is storage, ram is for running the rom and other programs, apps and software, when the rom loads, it only loads system files and startup files necessary, so sure, the key lock, power management, and so on is loaded, but nobody has found better tools for the job yet.
Nobody will argue that ram usage on the Tosh is high, but nobody has found a total solution to it yet.
At least, not that i know of
I disabled the start menu using a cab on this forum and use SPB Mobile Shell instead, with Quickmenu as a fallback in case SPB crashes (which rarely happens with the latest version).
Just by disabling the start menu, I gain about 20-25mb of RAM, no joke!
Search the forum for "Arto Disable Start Menu" and you should find it. Arto supplies a few different cabs, depending on what setup you want. I used the cab with quickmenu, but I believe there is one that enables the manila start menu instead.
I am using ffboy's wm6.5 clean ROM, and I run SPB with a custom skin, which usually leaves very little Ram to run apps that need a lot of memory like Opera Mobile 10.
Previously, with the same setup, I used to get around 55mb free on boot, if I was lucky, and that would shrink to around 25mb eventually.
Now I get up to 80mb on boot, even with stuff loading at startup like Swype and SPB Mobile Shell. Without anything running I can get up to 110mb at startup!
Now I can have a nice looking interface without worrying about memory running out. It's like having a new phone!
If you decide to do the same, just make sure you read the advice carefully otherwise you might end up not being able to get at your programs.
EDIT:
I found the page where I saw the cabs. They are in the links near the bottom of the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642654
columbo said:
I disabled the start menu using a cab on this forum and use SPB Mobile Shell instead, with Quickmenu as a fallback in case SPB crashes (which rarely happens with the latest version).
Just by disabling the start menu, I gain about 20-25mb of RAM, no joke!
Search the forum for "Arto Disable Start Menu" and you should find it. Arto supplies a few different cabs, depending on what setup you want. I used the cab with quickmenu, but I believe there is one that enables the manila start menu instead.
I am using ffboy's wm6.5 clean ROM, and I run SPB with a custom skin, which usually leaves very little Ram to run apps that need a lot of memory like Opera Mobile 10.
Previously, with the same setup, I used to get around 55mb free on boot, if I was lucky, and that would shrink to around 25mb eventually.
Now I get up to 80mb on boot, even with stuff loading at startup like Swype and SPB Mobile Shell. Without anything running I can get up to 110mb at startup!
Now I can have a nice looking interface without worrying about memory running out. It's like having a new phone!
If you decide to do the same, just make sure you read the advice carefully otherwise you might end up not being able to get at your programs.
EDIT:
I found the page where I saw the cabs. They are in the links near the bottom of the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642654
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That works quite well, i haven't decided whether i like quickmenu, htc menu or what yet, but it does save a lot of ram
I believe its also possible to remove the HTC dialer, that would save another 5-10MB ram
hi
i agree.
its work.but not perfectly on htc sense.
is good for spb shel.
Quickmenu, which looks quite good, is a nightmare in that post, because its in chinese, forced me to start again... how to get it in english?
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Quickmenu, which looks quite good, is a nightmare in that post, because its in chinese, forced me to start again... how to get it in english?
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for you, in english!
I think I just installed an english version on top of the other one and it worked fine. I can't remember exactly what I did, so please forgive me if it doesn't work straight away.
Let me know if installing the english version doesn't solve it, and I'll try to work out the exact process.
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for you, in english!
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Thanks for that
columbo said:
I think I just installed an english version on top of the other one and it worked fine. I can't remember exactly what I did, so please forgive me if it doesn't work straight away.
Let me know if installing the english version doesn't solve it, and I'll try to work out the exact process.
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I tried it for a while, sadly i find the text size on the menu way to small for me, so i had to go back to the Uzeb Start Menu which leaves me with 71Mb free ram on boot, its a shame there are not more alternatives
Another way you can save some ram is to use S2U2 slide to unlock instead of using the built in windows screen lock, even though its small savings, S2U2 defiantely uses less ram, so you can save maybe 4MB
s2u2 eat's more ram than the installed screen lock....
most of the replies are offtopic
what i was asking for was a rom without toshiba apps because i was thinking that the ram usage is so hight because toshiba apps need much ram...the services and dll are not as optimized as htc ones....
couldn we replace most of the toshiba apps?
Hamido123 said:
most of the replies are offtopic
what i was asking for was a rom without toshiba apps because i was thinking that the ram usage is so hight because toshiba apps need much ram...the services and dll are not as optimized as htc ones....
couldn we replace most of the toshiba apps?
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Off topic??
You were looking to save RAM usage, yes? Personally, I think 20+mb is a big saving and a lot for a start menu to be using, especially given the fact that SPB MS3.5 uses less than that for the entire program. I was sharing something that had helped me make my phone run very well and was hoping for a bit more gratitude.
Oh well, I guess you can't please everybody...
Is there any specific reason that causes you to suspect a problem with the Toshiba apps in particular, and which ones do you have concerns about?
columbo said:
I disabled the start menu using a cab on this forum and use SPB Mobile Shell instead, with Quickmenu as a fallback in case SPB crashes (which rarely happens with the latest version).
Just by disabling the start menu, I gain about 20-25mb of RAM, no joke!
EDIT:
I found the page where I saw the cabs. They are in the links near the bottom of the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642654
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Thank you very much fr the trick!. I have official WM 6.5 and I've completely removed Start: 12,9 more free program ram!!!! Thnks again
Can this start menu disable thing work in wm6.1? Hehe we would have 120mb free boot ram
Jonous said:
Can this start menu disable thing work in wm6.1? Hehe we would have 120mb free boot ram
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Try it!
Full backup before, of course..... I did it..... (who knows?)
Pere said:
Try it!
Full backup before, of course..... I did it..... (who knows?)
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I can't i'm on 6.5.5 again hehe back n forth back n forth...
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I can't i'm on 6.5.5 again hehe back n forth back n forth...
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nah it does not
I tried it, also contacted the guy making it but till now nothing
Pere said:
Thank you very much fr the trick!. I have official WM 6.5 and I've completely removed Start: 12,9 more free program ram!!!! Thnks again
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The only (up to now) little problem is that the "Start" option remains still there and if you select it by mistake. the TG01 frizzes some seconds.... nothing serious, but it would be great fixing it
Pere said:
The only (up to now) little problem is that the "Start" option remains still there and if you select it by mistake. the TG01 frizzes some seconds.... nothing serious, but it would be great fixing it
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We can't fix it, sorry, because I don't know how to redirect the link to another target
hallo Arto,
i have this Youtube OEM, you can try it