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i see people say its better version and few people say they put pach from sweden to englisg so give us the pach so we all can put the sve version?
i gotta tell you man- you are extremely unclear...
how hard is it to write posts people will actually UNDERSTAND?
Weird posts
At Least He Stopped Using Capitals.
The patch is easy to find i believe its under the wiki.
But the swe version is the fastest, it is still missing some components yes it has wpa2, but no mms and some other apps are missing as well
...and the language patch doesn't patch everything and still leaves quite a lot of Swedish hanging around. It is enough to make the phone useable to a non-Swedish speaker though.
gingercat said:
...and the language patch doesn't patch everything and still leaves quite a lot of Swedish hanging around. It is enough to make the phone useable to a non-Swedish speaker though.
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huh??? I patched the English cab and almost everything in English. In fact the only visible Swedish is my voicemailname and an entry in my setting (and maybe a word here and there...), the rest is complete English...
I'm using the SVE rom...
I tried the new Test rom for HTC... I tried the new leaked Cingular Rom... and I decided to go with the Swedish rom patched to english.
The Test Rom for some reason wouldn't let my phone go into sleep mode... so it would drain my battery real fast... that and the device got physically warmer than it usually did... I didn't like that at all.
The Cingular rom seemed alright... but it was lacking WPA2 which isn't very nice... and seemed a bit more bloated... especially with that little startup video... I think subconciously 80% of why I changed it was because of that.
With the SVE rom:
It's true that you can't edit the MMS settings... but the application appears to be there... maybe you can import the settings via registry. I don't really use MMS all that much, but I'm assuming you could get it to work that way.
I also copied all the short cuts from the swedish start menu in the windows folder over to the english Start Menu to get Internet Sharing, Streaming Media and MIDlet Manager.
This one seems pretty stable to me so far and does seem faster. Not sure on battery drain as of yet, but seems to be holding well.
The only issues I've noticed so far... there seems to be a slight delay in the sounds as I click around... seems like the sounds are always playing catch up. Also... when i get a new email... the subject line isn't bolded like the old one... so it's a little harder to see where the new emails end and the read emails begin. But that's a small annoyance.
TCPMP player seems to work much better as well... I did a quick benchmark of a 320 x 240 divx about 180bit rate... and got 299% using the ATI driver. There is no screen tearing when paused... so I like that.
I'm using radio 1.21 here in California... and it seems a lot more stable than 1.27 as well...
Hope this information is helpful to someone...
Mark
plz people!
you right that its truth the swe version is better but plz post link to download the english puch plz
ilook all over the wiki and didnt find
i want to start upgrade but cant cause i wait for the english puch
plz give alink thanks!
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With the SVE rom:
It's true that you can't edit the MMS settings... but the application appears to be there... maybe you can import the settings via registry. I don't really use MMS all that much, but I'm assuming you could get it to work that way.
Mark
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I have figured a way to fix the mms settings, I took the mms files from the windows folder off of the english version and put them on the SWE version. I am not sure which file specifically does it, but I know that I wasn't asked if I wanted to overwrite any files so I assume its all of them that are missing.
If anyone wants this I can zip the files and put on the ftp
As for the patch check this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1109289&postcount=204
http://bbs.pdafans.com/thread-314364-1-1.html
Look there. I'm not as much experienced as many of you are, therefore I'm asking you first. Is this really wm6 charmer rom?
i don't know, i'm not speeking japanese
well, seems to be...will try today, hope rom will not be japanese :-D
ok nocturne, hoping it will work if so, I'm definatelly gonna have some questions for you
well, just flashed WM6 five minutes ago. something you have to know:
1) this ROM IS wm6 finally !!!
2) YES, this ROM is realy WORKING WM6, including radio rom, camera, bluetooth (maybe it's behaviour is a little bit strange, maybe it is problem of my poor old MA700 bluetooth, which i'm running on Vista - it has never run well even on xp )
3) does not looks to be as fast as some debranded roms with wm5, but seems to be extremly fast as it is in beta stage. fast as roms filled with tmobile junk, if i could compare
4) ActiveSync 4.5 and Viasta's WMDC seems to be working much faster
5) windows update included inside wm6 is looking to do something
6) standart feautures of WM seems to be working correctly...does not look to be somehow special in this way
7) system startup is REALLY FAST - nearly like old iPAQs are...well, not as fast, but it is twice faster than WM5
Finally - this ROM seems to be...hmmm...somehow...little bit...chinese :-(
Willl provide more info if my employer will not kill me - this is not a testing machine, but the only phone i have :-D home I'll survive few days with chinese OS....
nocturne, come on ICQ, waiting for you there
so it's only in chinese
yes, I flashed this rom as well. It works in 100%. We're (me and nocturne) trying to figure out how to replace mui files now so to make it an WWE version.
oh,really cool guys.
It will be possible to donwgrade to a WM5 after the upgrade?
of course.
Working well
Well, I have flashed the ROM as well (2007-03-14_Charmer_WM6_OS_MSYH_Clean_Consam_xBeta) and I think it is very fast (seems to me being faster than all WM5 ROMs I have tried). Chinese is the only "problem", will test it more.
Guys, hope you will manage the translation. Good luck.
EDIT: The only thing not working is Contacts application. Does anyone has the same problem? The applications does not even start.
Radek
no problems with contacts app - but is not mapped to common contact button, that's the only problem i see. calendar is not mapped to its button as well.
have look at smartdialing - it is excellent, finaly no problems using czech characters, no more tweaknig dll's necessary
for the first look, a havedecided that this rom does not contain word, excell etc - my info was wrong. they are just grouped into "office mobile" icon...
some strange behavior still remains - i have lost icons for notes and two other (unknown) apps. their link from program targets some help file, of course chinese running notes executable directly works well - it's strage. i have none application installed as i want to test stability of basic OS, not third party applications...
P.S.: still charmed by fast system bootup, reseting again and again just to se if next bootup will be as fast as previous :-D
Well, I know that it's not mapped to the button. But the application is not running, seems that it's starting but stops immediately. Well, Contacts app is the most important one for me So I revert to WM5 again and wait for other ROM. By the way, which ROM are you using, because there were 4 ROMs to download?
nocturne.op.15 said:
no problems with contacts app - but is not mapped to common contact button, that's the only problem i see. calendar is not mapped to its button as well.
have look at smartdialing - it is excellent, finaly no problems using czech characters, no more tweaknig dll's necessary
for the first look, a havedecided that this rom does not contain word, excell etc - my info was wrong. they are just grouped into "office mobile" icon...
some strange behavior still remains - i have lost icons for notes and two other (unknown) apps. their link from program targets some help file, of course chinese running notes executable directly works well - it's strage. i have none application installed as i want to test stability of basic OS, not third party applications...
P.S.: still charmed by fast system bootup, reseting again and again just to se if next bootup will be as fast as previous :-D
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Is this ROM originally really Chinese?
Guys when I look into \Windows folder there are many DLL files with .0804 extension. Doesn't that mean that the ROM is originally not Chinese? If I'm not wrong, those extensions are used for translated files (MUI). Other interesting thing is that there are many english file names, eg. in \windows\AppButtons.
What do you mean about that?
melvincz: you could be right. I'm not 100% sure though. Don't even try to delete those files, you're system will freeze at 1st or 2nd splashscreen.
I flashed the 2007-03-24 rom_plus_consam and the contact application works fine for me.
download mirror
can you upload this rom to rapidshare or somewhere else. my download speed from china is terrible. thanks
uploading... will be done in like an hour
Would that be including the English mui files by chance?
http://rapidshare.com/files/27671349/2007-03-26_Charmer_WM6_CHS_OS_msyh__plus_consam_xBeta.exe.html
no english mui.
vlodeck said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/27671349/2007-03-26_Charmer_WM6_CHS_OS_msyh__plus_consam_xBeta.exe.html
no english mui.
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thank you very much
Greetings! I wanted to see if anyone out there is experiencing the same problems and if so then maybe they have already come up with a solution.
A handful of software is locking up my WM6 (TrueNytrals 1.4MS), the most importand of which Marsware Newspanel is locking up the device after resuming wakeup. I also noticed that it does the same thing on some 3.3AKUs that I tried however the 2.2AKUs (Offical QTEK) seems OK.
I love WM6 and find that the amount of energy poured into getting this OS on our Prophets is outstanding!
Could anyone assist me with keeping this GREAT software on my G3 device since the developer has been MIA for a couple of years now and there is little chance that this software will ever move from BETA stage.
Thanks in advance for any assistance!
EDIT: Upon decompiling further, I have found that the NewsPanel.dll code imports from the following in the system files:
commctrl.dll
coredll.dll
aygshell.dll
wininet.dll
Of which there are differences from 2.2AKU to 3.3 and up (one would assume), therefore leading me to a dead-end. Would the system remain stable if one were to replace the above system files with the ones from a 2.2AKU? Furthermore how could one attemp changing these os-locked files?
Should this thread now be moved to "Development and Hacking"?
Anyone could PLEASE help?
Edit AGAIN: I have tried disabling EVERYTHING but the known system processes and also moving to the internal storage... STILL locking up the device.
Anyone?
Has anyone any ideas on this?
If someone has Marsware Newspanel working on their WM6 (ANY Flavour) and it is NOT locking up their device, could you please post here your NewsPanel.dll from your "\Program Files\Marsware\" folder OR PM me? So that I may compare it to my own...
Thanks again!
lets go about this the other way, does newspanel even support WM6 ? (ask them) if so, we can have a look etc. or are you trying to patch this software to work with WM6 ?
Marsware Newspanel lockups
Jesterz, thanks for your reply...
I feel like Wayne "I'm not worthy"... you are like an XDA idol - cool:
I am not sure if NewsPanel is compatible with WM6 and there is no way of contacting the developer due to the fact that he has been missing in action for more than a few years now, NewsPanel and TimePanel being his last releases (even before WM5 came out).
I suppose then to answer your question, I am looking at MODing it to work for WM6, it worked with NO Problems on WM5 up until 3.3AKU. My initial query was to find out if there were others out there that were able to use the software on their WM6 Devices without lockups and IF so then to find out how this is possible, apply it to my own device; in turn assisting others with the same problems. It is by far THE BEST Rss software out there (subjectivity). Maybe it is JUST not possible with WM6 due to internal OS changes, but proding around I have seen some accounts of it working on WM6. Is it solely a problem that all of the WM6 ROMs in the prophet forums here are all based on the same Wizard ROM? I am not sure, however on Prislavs 4b ROM, which is based on a Charmer ROM - NewsPanel locked up as well... TOO many questions.
So IF there are some out there with a WM6 Device AND MarsWare's NewsPanel installed and working, if they could post their device type (ROM type) and possibly their DLL (there shouldn't be any copyright problems due to it being a free BETA edition).
Thanks again.
Jeff said:
Jesterz, thanks for your reply...
I feel like Wayne "I'm not worthy"... you are like an XDA idol - cool:
I am not sure if NewsPanel is compatible with WM6 and there is no way of contacting the developer due to the fact that he has been missing in action for more than a few years now, NewsPanel and TimePanel being his last releases (even before WM5 came out).
I suppose then to answer your question, I am looking at MODing it to work for WM6, it worked with NO Problems on WM5 up until 3.3AKU. My initial query was to find out if there were others out there that were able to use the software on their WM6 Devices without lockups and IF so then to find out how this is possible, apply it to my own device; in turn assisting others with the same problems. It is by far THE BEST Rss software out there (subjectivity). Maybe it is JUST not possible with WM6 due to internal OS changes, but proding around I have seen some accounts of it working on WM6. Is it solely a problem that all of the WM6 ROMs in the prophet forums here are all based on the same Wizard ROM? I am not sure, however on Prislavs 4b ROM, which is based on a Charmer ROM - NewsPanel locked up as well... TOO many questions.
So IF there are some out there with a WM6 Device AND MarsWare's NewsPanel installed and working, if they could post their device type (ROM type) and possibly their DLL (there shouldn't be any copyright problems due to it being a free BETA edition).
Thanks again.
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I've been away from months so i'm catching up, but I now remember these guys, they also made the weatherpanel, too bad they are MIA, anyway obviously something broke between AKU 2.2 and AKU 3 and higher, as you have already debuged in your posts, it is probably due to change in the files you list, what you could do is create an WM6 rom with older files in it and see if it works....
P.s.
i'm hardly an XDA idol, like way !, no way ! I just like my prophet
Upgrading
Jesterz,
I have never quite ventured into the 'building' stages of the OS, just mainly flashing others' published works. However I am downloading the S-Core kitchen and I will see if I am not able to do just that - replacing the neccessary files to get this soft to work. However if I were to be able to extract the files that I saw from decompiling the dll from an official 2.2 AKU then I could make a CAB file to replace some if not all of the dll's, no? I say this because I have for once an incredibly stable TrueNytral 1.4 ROM with everything working (charging, wifi, bt, IR, etc.) and I would hate to see it gone - "if it ain't broke don't fix it'.
So I suppose now that I have to figure out how to extract these files from my 2.2 Nk.nbf and THEN put them in a CAB and install on my WM6... the learning process begins now...
Any assistance or guidance would be GREATLY appreciated.
Still goin' on...
I have tried about everything now, I have tried to extract all the above-noted DLLs from the official QTEK ROM, but the problem with the PE Headers of the dumped files is stopping me from trying to use them in my WM6. (Yet another problem)
I have looked in the NewsPanel.DLL, but my programming skills are not adequate enough to amend or modify it due to the fact that I don't know what I am doing should I need to change something.
++++ Can someone out there (Guru status sans doute) disassimble the DLL to know how it works and then modify what is making it "lockup" on WM6 (normally within 45 seconds after waking up the device). ++++
I cannot seem to find another (better) RSS reader that offers large RSS Descriptions WITH embedded photos on the today screen:
I have tried PocketRSS - large and nice but no photos
I have tried Insight - nice but NOT large enough
Egress downloads in background but no photos on today screen
Franky newspanel is by far the best, I just cannot seem to get it to work!
Maybe I'm bull-headed, but I don't want to let this go if there is a way to use still use it with WM6- and as I said b4 the developer is MIA.
AnYoNe can HELP?
Hey,
found your post in a search, and I just want to let you know that you are not alone, I have the same problem on an unknown Vanilla ROM and also the current XDA Mobile 6 r2a that I'm running. The exact same symptoms. This is REALLY a shame as I totally agree that it is THE BEST today plugin when it comes to RSS. I'm settling with Egress right now but if anything were to evolve on NewsPanels problems...
If there's ANYTHING I can do with my very limited knowledge in programming, let me know, at least I can beta test, right? I have no problems flashing and re-flashing if needed to get this awesome program back up and running in our WM6s.
Best Regards,
Nik
newspanel
Has any fix this program so it can be run with wm6? sorry about my english
That's strange. Back when I had the PPC-6700, NewsPanel (after a few months) started locking up my phone all the time. Not just on wake-up, but when I tried to do ANYTHING. In fact, it caused me to hard-reset a few imes...
However, now that I've got the HTC Mogul, I haven't had this problem once. Of course last time it just took a while for the problem to show up, but it might also be because I'm using the today plug-in in Spb Diary.
-W&P
p.s. I know this post isn't much help, but I thought maybe knowing it works for me in Diary might help out in some way.
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Ok, it seems that the Call to the Connection is the problem here or at least I think so. When we check for it to "Establish a Connection" and you have a GPRS connection it works without any problems. However, if you were to go to Flight mode then it will lock up your device again...
I read somewhere that the developer fell off of a mountain while trying to climb it and consequently expired, so I guess there is no help down that road...
Could or can anyone with some experience with IDA (or the like) dis- and re-assemble the DLL and take out the Establish a Connection problem so that the rest of the world can have Photo feeds on their today screen without waiting for Insight to update for over 8 months now? I confirm that this is working in WM5 of the official flavour, i.e. Qtek 2.20 for S200 WITHOUT the establish connection thing-y.
Otherwise I am trying to learn as I go, but as many of you with graduate degrees in IT will acknowledge - It ain't easy!
Peace...........
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Ok, it seems that the Call to the Connection is the problem here or at least I think so. When we check for it to "Establish a Connection" and you have a GPRS connection it works without any problems. However, if you were to go to Flight mode then it will lock up your device again...
I read somewhere that the developer fell off of a mountain while trying to climb it and consequently expired, so I guess there is no help down that road...
Could or can anyone with some experience with IDA (or the like) dis- and re-assemble the DLL and take out the Establish a Connection problem so that the rest of the world can have Photo feeds on their today screen without waiting for Insight to update for over 8 months now? I confirm that this is working in WM5 of the official flavour, i.e. Qtek 2.20 for S200 WITHOUT the establish connection thing-y.
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On my HTC Tytn-II with WM6, Newspanel locks up the device even if "Establish a Connection" is disabled/unchecked.
Windows mobile 6.5 build 21176
WARNING: THIS ROM IS BETA AND SOMETHING CAN BE PARTIALLY OR TOTALLY NOT WORKING! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Download (SPL 3.5 ONLY): http://rapidshare.com/files/208071403/Athena_SPL3.5_WM6.5_WWE_R6.5-Michy.rar
Yeah!! This a fanstastic news!!
I'll flash my Athena asap.
excellent ROM
This is amazing for a beta. Email works. texts work. Its all in english and looks really nice. Love the new icons. And unlike the previous taxist ROMs I can access phone settings and set the bands correctly. all around loving it so far.
Its a perfect beginnig. I'm flashing tonight and hope for more news and releases soon.
10x mate :>
Nice
Michy,
Just flashed up from the TX 59 build, Very Nice work, One observation so far (has anyone else had a probelm with apps failing to install?) Resco Exp, Google Maps so far..
Cheers
BR
bluetooth
Michyprima
thanks a lot sharing your work with us.
Just a question, are you using same bluetooth as your previous roms?
Taxist rom for 6.5 is efficient in my case due I have BT8010 headset and watch mbw150 in terms of quality sound and battery life.
amazing stuff michy, thanks alot
My 2 cents
My observations so far, everything looks great, about 80% on my commonly used apps get the "application install unsucessful" error, I have been having alot of system hangs (could be something I did install) I am on a x7500 (tried an extra HR just to be sure it was not a remnant from the flash) also updated radio from 1.57 to 1.58. Well that is the joy of beta testing I have always liked the Michy roms, This is only a 1st release and a very good one considering the work involved. (been running various wm6.5 builds on my Raph so I expect some bumps)
Cheers
BR
HI ALL
Michy ...thanks for sharing rom..
I was waiting for ur best test realease..
How about the touchflo scroll speed ...?? Is it like the previous rom posted on this forum or sumtihing better ,,,,?
I ma trying to download ur file but i have some bandwidth problem so may not flash and check soon..please update some changes in ur rom...
Thank again
shankz
Russian MUI
Hello Michy!
I'm from russia, and continuously watch about you works and have two questions:
1. Will be russian MUI support or can i get it (support russian language) anyware?
2. Where i can reed about difference SPL 1.2 and SPL 3.5, what this is?
Sorry for my english
Best regards and hope for my answers, Sergei
7HC54810SA8239306 with Thanks!
michyprima ...
thank for sharing your great job
best regards
qazqaz70
I too have the problems with installing any apps in cab form. I keep getting the "installation was unsuccessful" message....... hmm
HEY MICHY ..VERY HARD TO PLAY WID UR BUILD...
THIS IS A BEST ROM BUT VERY VERY GOOD IN LOOKS ..
SOME PROBELMS BEEN CHECKD WITH THIS ROM,MENTIONED BELOW.
WINDOWS LIVE DOESNOT CONNECT : JUST LOGGED IN SHOWS AND ERROR DISPLAYS "THERES A CONNECTIVITY PROBLEM.MAKE SURE YOURE IN AN AREA WITH GOOD RECEPTION AND TRY AGAIN.
GOOGLE MAPS COMPRESSED VERSION DOENOT GET INSATLL ...
WINDOWS LIVE OTHER NON BETA .CAB SHOWS ERROR MESSAGE " DUE TO INSUFFICENT PREMISSON BY ROM FAIL TO INSTALL THIS VERSION '
FACEBOOK.CAB DOES GET INSTALL BUT icon DOESNOT SHOWS IN PROG.
INTERNET CONNECTION SEETINGS FOR GPRS AND EDGE CONNECTION HAS VERY BAD RESPONSE.
YOU TUBE DOESNOT DOWNLOAD ANY VIDEOS ONLINE JUST DOWNLOADING SHOWS.
ON hOME SCREEN RIGHT SIDE ICON OF BATTERY SHOWS ONLY CONNECTED.
MAIL SETUP DOESNOT TAKE WINDOWS LIVE CONNECTION.
THIRD PARTY APPLICATIONS LIKE :
DESTINATOR 6 DOESNOT GET INSATLLED.
ONLY TMC .CAB AND SLIDE PLAYER GETS INSTALL.
NON OF RESCO EXPLORER VERSION GET INSATLL ON THIS ROM.
ANY APPICATION GETS INSATLL WE HAVE ALWAYS REBOOT THE PHONE TO HAVE EFFECT.
EG. FROM HOME SCREEN UNTICK TITANIUM LOGO .
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE LOT WORK TO DO WITH THIS ROM..
HEY MICHY I MA SURE SOON WILL HAVE REALLY GOOD REALEASE FROM YOU ...
PLEASE DONT MIND I HAD TO WRITE WHAT I CHECKED WITH THIS ROM...
BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME
I AM BACK TO 1.88 MICHY'S ROM
WISH YOU ALL THE BEST,....
BEST REGARDS
SHANKZ
hey michy, thanks for coming through for us. i've been away from my computer for a couple days and was relieved tosee that you posted a beta.
a few things because i xan't type fast on the phone.
**out of all the apps i tried to install, only abiut 16% was successful. even my beloved touchpal didn't install, i got no other keyboard to install, mot even shape writer. the PHM keyboard included doesn't work (when enabled i had to change keyboard in settings then softreset). Um, anyone got a good skin for VGAKEY?
**the menu system is much slower now...
**I love that the honeycomb is much faster scrolling!
**IEmobile is much more stable, i actually haven't tried to install opera yet. the only thing it is missing right now is tabs and a larger buffer.
**titanium is more beautiful but seems a bit slower than the 59.
**the camera seems a little slower than 59 too, but somehow it is showing me that i have space for about 2000 more pictures (at 1m) than it did on 59. so its either this build handles images much better than previous or it's lying to me.
**on the today screen please change the left softkey to phone (minor issue)
*when i put the visor on time, only the hour is shown, the minutes shows like "...". eg. for 12:30am it shows like this "12:..."
**the dialer is much slower than 59.
*the call status screen is beautiful. (i wish the dialer looked like it)
**why does it always go back to the home screen after i select an app? can this be changed by reg?
Again, thank you mike for coming on board. if you need a tester, send me a PM
hey Michy how you been?
any words or thoughts on why most cabs are uninstallable?
the problem with the time on today screen ks resolved: i fiddled with the time in region settings and it somehow made it work like it should.
Strange encounters from my device.
After flashed, couldn't get it to sync with pc.
even after untick advance in usb to pc.
Noted it never auto reset immediately at end of flashing,
others do.
After a few soft resets, device couldn't start up again.
Not possible from soft or hard reset. Only way is
to remove battery for several minutes, put it back and
then it will start up from power on.
Aware it is beta, just love to try it out.
Great rom and beautiful too, thanks Michy!
13/3 update
After re-flashed by using SD card, device power up normally again.
The strange encounter I had was probably due to bad flashing.
Only thing now is unable to install program using cab or from pc.
well, now I can say only about 3% (I think its less) of all the apps I've tried so far to install actually installed....I've tried damn near a hundred app so far......
i tried 6.5 before...the test version...its VERY slow..i dont know about you version though, i will flash it soon to find out...i've been using ur 6.1 version and its THE MOST STABLE OS EVER!!! only one snag in that is that when u place the keyboard on the athena it doesnt show the small menu like the AP roms do...could u perhaps blend that in this rom?
mokhabarat said:
i tried 6.5 before...the test version...its VERY slow..i dont know about you version though, i will flash it soon to find out...i've been using ur 6.1 version and its THE MOST STABLE OS EVER!!! only one snag in that is that when u place the keyboard on the athena it doesnt show the small menu like the AP roms do...could u perhaps blend that in this rom?
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There is a Sub menu app in michys roms that turns that on on 6.1 roms, I ont know about this one though.
Jay
Ok, so I finally did it, I flashed a cooked ROM to my Fuze. Whew! I did run into a snag or two, but all is good now and I am even ready to try another one to see some of the differences.
I do have a couple of questions though. Flame me if you must, I can take the heat. However, trust me when I say, I read everything on this site.
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
2. I would like to try an NRG ROM, but I still can't quite grasp what customRUU is. Am I free to flash one of these with just the HardSPL that I already did? Or do I need somethign else before flashing one that has this in the folder?
3. Since I am still trying to catch up with what's available out there now...what the heck is CHome? At first, I thought someone mispelled that Google browser thing, but soon figured out that can't be it.
Christine
CDnNC said:
Ok, so I finally did it, I flashed a cooked ROM to my Fuze. Whew! I did run into a snag or two, but all is good now and I am even ready to try another one to see some of the differences.
I do have a couple of questions though. Flame me if you must, I can take the heat. However, trust me when I say, I read everything on this site.
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
2. I would like to try an NRG ROM, but I still can't quite grasp what customRUU is. Am I free to flash one of these with just the HardSPL that I already did? Or do I need somethign else before flashing one that has this in the folder?
3. Since I am still trying to catch up with what's available out there now...what the heck is CHome? At first, I thought someone mispelled that Google browser thing, but soon figured out that can't be it.
Christine
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Welcome to the wonderful and addictive world of customized ROMs. It's one of the best ways to get the most from your Raphael, but sometimes we see things that 'aren't quite right' since they haven't gone through the rigor that vendors put their ROMs through. But then again, we get to play with the new, neat stuff!!!
As I understand it, Manila is HTC's interface/Today skin for the Raphael. You don't have to use it, but most ROM's will have it cooked in, so you'll need to go through the 'setup' as the ROM is first booted on your machine. If you don't want to use it, just go to the Today screen settings and de-select the TF entry.
CustomRUU is the application you run to do the actual install from a PC. There's no need to play with it all, just run it, and everything should happen automagically. There's also an option to run the install from a loaded SD card on the unit itself, but I stick to the Activesync connection version myself.
Sorry, can't help with CHome... I have no idea what that is either.
As I said -- welcome!
Therefore you are?
drtolson said:
Sorry, can't help with CHome... I have no idea what that is either.
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ASFAIK, CHome is the new Today interface for Windows Mobile 6.5.
CDnNC said:
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
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Do you mean the Stylus Alignment? If so, you should always perform a stylus/screen alignment.
Do you mean the G-Sensor Calibration? If so, you should perform the calibration; although you may not use TF3D, many application can "leverage" the G-Sensor capabilities of the device.
HTH,
hilaireg said:
ASFAIK, CHome is the new Today interface for Windows Mobile 6.5.
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I thought that was 'Titanium'
congratulations
Here ya go:
ConfettiCore is the underlying display component shared between Start Menu and Today screen.
CHome is the Today screen itself.
Titanium is the skin; alternatives are Bronze, Neo.
HTH,
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Thanks Da_G for your ever so wonderful wisdom and knowledge about all that is Windows Mobile ...
CHome and Titanium are somewhat interchangable. They both refer to the new 6.5 "Default" interface. If you have CHome installed on your ROM, go to Start>Settings>Today>Items and check "Windows Default". Everything else will uncheck itself. Now you can see CHome in action. CHome is new and ofcourse not yet released by Microsoft, so it is not flawless. Showaco has made a great tool for editing CHome so that you can control what is on the today screen. It takes bit of playing to figure it out, but give it a go. I really have become hooked on the simple effeciency of CHome.
As for the Initial Setup of Touch Flow, this is a left over from a previous ROM. Most of the ROM chefs, do not bother changing the set-up screens because they do not matter. They are simply something to display while the phone configures itself. Other Chefs seem to enjoy changing this screen, so results may vary. In any event, no need to worry.
RUU is the wrapper that installs your ROM image on the phone. When you download a rom and unzip it into a folder, there usually are 2 files, the RUU and the NBH file. The NBH file is the real ROM image. The RUU or Wrapper is what installs it to the phone. If you unzip a ROM and the wrapper is missing, simply copy it from a different ROM you have unzipped and add it to the folder with teh NBH file you want to flash. The RUU/Wrapper does not change from ROM to ROM, only the NBH changes. With both the RUU and the NBH in a folder, launch the RUU and it will load the ROM in that folder.
HARD SLP is the first step that will allow you to Flash Custom ROMS. AFTER you Hard SPL according to the directions, choose a ROM, download, unzip and launch the wrapper. You must be attached via activesync. After that, off you go.
Enjoy. Every ROM is like getting a new phone.
Doug M.
Showaco Editor:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481379
Thanks Doug, that helps me understand as it makes perfect sense. I appreciate all of the help I find on this site.
Now on to the next step doing that radio flash.
Excellent, Good to see a fellow Charlottean getting hooked on flashing.
Doug M.
Charlotte?
DAMN! For months, I had been thinking "if only one of these XDA guys lived here, he could show me how to do this and I wouldn't be terrified of bricking my phone"...and here you are?!?!?
Actualy, Titanium is the base WM 6.5 user interface\homescreen, chome refers to the dll plugin being utilized by Titanium. chome was ported from the WM 6.1 slidding panels interface made for smartphones and has been optimized by Showaco and others to offer more pluggin options with Titanium!
Manila 3D is HTC's user interface it is used in conjuction with touchflo but they are different things kind of, touchflo just refers to being able to scroll with your fingers and how the physics engine operates.
RUU stands for ROM Update Utility, it creates a bridge to your bootloader from your PC to flash through Active Sync\ Device Manager.
Hope this helps some!
CDnNC said:
DAMN! For months, I had been thinking "if only one of these XDA guys lived here, he could show me how to do this and I wouldn't be terrified of bricking my phone"...and here you are?!?!?
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Well, here I am. I am by no means an expert, but feel free to get in touch any time. My office is near Northlake mall.
Doug M.