You can find HERE the IRUS tools and HOW TO build your own ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2176131&postcount=3
Very fine tools
I hope my internet will be fixed eventualy, so I can download this tools to try it. It is a time to learn something new.
Tadeusz said:
I hope my internet will be fixed eventualy, so I can download this tools to try it. It is a time to learn something new.
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thats the spirit, if you have any questions just post'em
I'd actually consider downloading this, but I tend to be pretty picky about knowing where all the files came from and what changes were made, so I'll probably stick with my own kitchen I'm futzing around with. I'll take a peek, though, and I might be able to suggest a change or two if I notice things I've figured out that you've not yet implemented yet.
Sogarth said:
I'd actually consider downloading this, but I tend to be pretty picky about knowing where all the files came from and what changes were made, so I'll probably stick with my own kitchen I'm futzing around with. I'll take a peek, though, and I might be able to suggest a change or two if I notice things I've figured out that you've not yet implemented yet.
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Why don't you also post your kitchen and instruction on how to use it too?
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Why don't you also post your kitchen and instruction on how to use it too?
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You want the honest truth? A couple of reasons.
In order to have something that I'd feel comfortable with other people using, it would require several more weeks of futzing around with the files. I've already been at this for almost three weeks now, and I'm tired of using my HTC Typhoon. I want my real phone back (since the Athena >>> Typhoon).
The final ROM that I'll be using won't match the ROM that other people will be using, period. It's because I'll be putting some of the software that I've bought into my ROM, and putting in some hard-coded dependencies upon those (since there are some interesting things here and there you can do).
I hate doing support. For which I heartily applaud irus, since he's been single-handedly patiently trying to help everyone who's been using his ROM. Pawel was doing the same for a while, albeit a little less patiently, although I don't know where he's disappeared off to recently.
There are probably other reasons as well, but those are the ones I can think of for now. I mean, if there's truly interest, I can see what I can do, but one of the other things that bit me the last time is that I don't want to debug things alone again - the last time, it sucked well over a month from my life to handle all that.
Anyways, this is the thread for the IRUS ROM Kitchen, not the maybe Sogarth ROM kitchen, so I'll leave it at that.
What about mixing Chinese with new Irus one?
I wonder if there could be a way to mix Irus rom with this Chinese one to get a new WWE version based on the newest built and fastest up to now?
It should not be e big problem to put mui files from Irus kitchen into Chinese rom and change a mui to English. There is a reg key setting language for the rom. Irus knows it better then me, anyway.
Unfortunately I can't download anything from rapidsare nor from megaploads because of me being behind a proxy of my 3G network.
Irus, if you could upload your kitchen on my eurotelefon server, then I could get it here and start learning. Today I have some work to do yet, but maybe later I could start.
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We have to test new rom of Irus first, and then compare it with the Chinese version. It could be very interesting. Steve has very good experience with this Chinese rom so we eventually could use it in future works. Of course we need to ask for the permission, but I am sure the Chinese producer can be proud of his work and let us use it to build something new on it. This is how the development goes, anyway.
Sogarth said:
You want the honest truth? A couple of reasons.
In order to have something that I'd feel comfortable with other people using, it would require several more weeks of futzing around with the files. I've already been at this for almost three weeks now, and I'm tired of using my HTC Typhoon. I want my real phone back (since the Athena >>> Typhoon).
The final ROM that I'll be using won't match the ROM that other people will be using, period. It's because I'll be putting some of the software that I've bought into my ROM, and putting in some hard-coded dependencies upon those (since there are some interesting things here and there you can do).
I hate doing support. For which I heartily applaud irus, since he's been single-handedly patiently trying to help everyone who's been using his ROM. Pawel was doing the same for a while, albeit a little less patiently, although I don't know where he's disappeared off to recently.
There are probably other reasons as well, but those are the ones I can think of for now. I mean, if there's truly interest, I can see what I can do, but one of the other things that bit me the last time is that I don't want to debug things alone again - the last time, it sucked well over a month from my life to handle all that.
Anyways, this is the thread for the IRUS ROM Kitchen, not the maybe Sogarth ROM kitchen, so I'll leave it at that.
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Ready to change the 3d into something different....
Tadeusz said:
I wonder if there could be a way to mix Irus rom with this Chinese one to get a new WWE version based on the newest built and fastest up to now?
It should not be e big problem to put mui files from Irus kitchen into Chinese rom and change a mui to English. There is a reg key setting language for the rom. Irus knows it better then me, anyway.
Unfortunately I can't download anything from rapidsare nor from megaploads because of me being behind a proxy of my 3G network.
Irus, if you could upload your kitchen on my eurotelefon server, then I could get it here and start learning. Today I have some work to do yet, but maybe later I could start.
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We have to test new rom of Irus first, and then compare it with the Chinese version. It could be very interesting. Steve has very good experience with this Chinese rom so we eventually could use it in future works. Of course we need to ask for the permission, but I am sure the Chinese producer can be proud of his work and let us use it to build something new on it. This is how the development goes, anyway.
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i took a brief shoot as i have never done a language swap before and it did not work i will consider it but im still fussing around with new bt stack so people can send files back and forth between phones and laptop and phone. that is the last thing i need to do to make my rom complete. i will want a monday release as i said i would release on monday and i don't like being late. but on the other hand the chinese rom works better at transferring files so if this becomes a dead end then i might have no choice but to push back the release date and work with the chinese rom. i will make an official announcement tomorrow night
Sergiopi,
Please see my post on the Chinese ROM thread regarding caution in using this download.
irus,
This looks like a user friendly tool, but I've a question at the stage where we're looking at the dump: How do you go about finding out which pieces are for which ? Is there a website to go to in order to make sure we're removing the right thing? Or is it a trial and error kind of process? If I want to extract out the new cotact application from a newer ROM, for example, how do I know what the pieces are?
eaglesteve said:
irus,
This looks like a user friendly tool, but I've a question at the stage where we're looking at the dump: How do you go about finding out which pieces are for which ? Is there a website to go to in order to make sure we're removing the right thing? Or is it a trial and error kind of process? If I want to extract out the new cotact application from a newer ROM, for example, how do I know what the pieces are?
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to me i think the easiest way, if you upgrading the app, is to look and see what files are in the new app and just replace the old. you could make packages but then you have to make a rom folder and xip subfolder and IMO buildos is sometimes picky about reg entries. so the best way is to just replaces the files in the dump folder and then edit the hv and if needed the inflashfiles.dat
This is also in conjuction with eaglesteves previous question.
So I do all of the 'editing' of the ROM in the dump folder right? Second, what if I want to remove entire program, is there an easy to extract 'everything' and its components from the ROM? For instance, what if I want to remove the calculator and put in a freeware calc. do I just remove the calculator folder or is there more to this process?
In the ROM that I'm editing...really just for experiment....I want to remove alot of things and add some, and see if I can put it back together.
I hope this makes since.
Thanks Irus for a good tutorial.
Kenjari
Need help for Exract Bluetooth stack and wireless manager from Taxist V10 rom
Hi
Anyone please help me to extract Bluetooth Stack and the wireless manager from taxist V10 rom.
Just i need to know that which files are needed for Bluetooth Stack and Which files for wireless manager.
I have seen the files in the os.nb but i do not know which files for the bluetooth and wireless.
Thanks in advance.
I downloaded the instructions but for some reason, it can't be read with any of my programs even Microsoft Word.
If I want to extract a particular file off from a WM6.1 RUU_signed.nbh file, which of the included programs should I use?
I tried Scoter Kitchen, but it does not read .nbh files.
NetCF3.5 OEM?
Hi Irus,
I was trying to get an OEM for NETCF3.5 from your FULL ROM using Sogarth kitchen, but with no joy.
Could you suugest any place I could look for it? The same for FTouch?
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I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
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Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
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Allenzo said:
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
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Nope sorry to say no official Wm6 rom n no best Wm6 rom either every rom on this forum has its gud qualities n bugs also.................
Allenzo said:
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
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No official WM6 ROM released for Prophet. The last official ROM is WM5 from Qtek.
As for the best, it depends on your definition. More software packaged? Faster in response? or shorter booting time? How about long term stress test with less memory leak?
It also depends on to what extent you are willing to reconfigure it. No on-size-fits-all.
To me, stability and speed go above all other features. Less software packed mean less possibility to go wrong. Korand's new ROM offers these. I got around 30 software already installed on my SD card, with only one patch of CAB to make up registry and shortcut, all of them runs well.
When something went wrong, it's easier to debug, simply hard reset to original ROM state. (Not if your ROM has already got a lot of software and tweak.)
I like Korand's philosophy to build a clean ROM as platform to others. If anything not so perfect, that would be no Power Point mobile, mms, windows live messenger, and java, make it less official look.
However, Power Point is rather impractical mess in a small screen, the same to mms, WLM, without 3G.
It's really up to personal requirement to decide which one is the best. To me, besides speed and stability, the one puts most fundamental, unchanging stuff inside the ROM, and leaves out constantly upgrading stuff outside, is the best for me, partly because i can do the addon myself.
Here i would also like to take the liberty to implore the authors of cooked ROM, or forum moderators, since many guys ask which ROM is the best for them, why not do a more organized form, list to put on the top of forum.
A clean ROM, the common platform to those variants, can be pick out as a lead, like a pedigree, so people can be easier on tracing problem.
On the other hand, as a user, a beggar can't be a chooser, no author got paid here, so, try and choose one best fit your need...Good luck...
godel.chen said:
No official WM6 ROM released for Prophet. The last official ROM is WM5 from Qtek.
As for the best, it depends on your definition. More software packaged? Faster in response? or shorter booting time? How about long term stress test with less memory leak?
It also depends on to what extent you are willing to reconfigure it. No on-size-fits-all.
To me, stability and speed go above all other features. Less software packed mean less possibility to go wrong. Korand's new ROM offers these. I got around 30 software already installed on my SD card, with only one patch of CAB to make up registry and shortcut, all of them runs well.
When something went wrong, it's easier to debug, simply hard reset to original ROM state. (Not if your ROM has already got a lot of software and tweak.)
I like Korand's philosophy to build a clean ROM as platform to others. If anything not so perfect, that would be no Power Point mobile, mms, windows live messenger, and java, make it less official look.
However, Power Point is rather impractical mess in a small screen, the same to mms, WLM, without 3G.
It's really up to personal requirement to decide which one is the best. To me, besides speed and stability, the one puts most fundamental, unchanging stuff inside the ROM, and leaves out constantly upgrading stuff outside, is the best for me, partly because i can do the addon myself.
Here i would also like to take the liberty to implore the authors of cooked ROM, or forum moderators, since many guys ask which ROM is the best for them, why not do a more organized form, list to put on the top of forum.
A clean ROM, the common platform to those variants, can be pick out as a lead, like a pedigree, so people can be easier on tracing problem.
On the other hand, as a user, a beggar can't be a chooser, no author got paid here, so, try and choose one best fit your need...Good luck...
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Thanks Man
Have I missed a memo?
Why is it that the only base ROM's that I can find for the Raphael are 19965 builds?
Seem to be plenty of newer ROM's knocking around as cooked versions, but as the chefs insist on protecting them all the time, they're as good as useless for a part-timer like myself who likes to cook his own personal ROM's.
I never had this problem with any previous devices, so what's gone wrong? Have I upset someone?!
I totally agree...
Want to get my hands on build 2755.0.1.4 and turn it into dutch and tweak the hell out of it!
But first we need a source-rom...
Seconded.
yep a bit strange
all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
jcespi2005 said:
all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
pfcsabre said:
Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
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I've also started experimenting with porting. But can we just use any wm6.1 rom, as long as we keep the device oemkernelXP?
If I replace all 0409 files with 0413 in OEM en SYS will I have a flawless dutch rom? Or do I have to change links, rgu or dsm-files also? That's new for me...
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all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
sub69 said:
Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
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19971 is the latest officially released build, check the wiki for the shipped ROMs we have available.
For 2 days I'm trying to find a 20755 based rom to port sys and xip from, but all the ones I find are protected...
Anybody found one? please link me to it..
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19971 is the latest officially released build, check the wiki for the shipped ROMs we have available.
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Cheers, I forgot about that one. Saw it in the Wiki a while back, and I flashed it briefly, but I've always struggled to customise Cingular ROM's in the past because of the amount of time it takes to get rid of every last little bit of their "tweaking". So I ignored it - partly because I assumed the slightly increased build number was only to do with the Cingular customisations.
I'll just have to wait until something new comes along from HTC.
I used to love the convenience of picking up an "almost perfect" cooked ROM to tweak for my own use, but it seems that chefs don't want us to do that these days. Thats their choice I suppose - BUT (and I'll get crucified for this!) it smacks of double standards when the "real" hard work was pinched from Microsoft/HTC in the first place.
I'm not trying to start an argument by the way! I just really wish that I could actually benefit from the various chefs' hard work, rather than having to do everything from scratch because of the restrictions they impose...
Only one chef that I know of (may have been kyphur?) still releases unprotected ROM's - maybe I just need to buy him a Touch Pro!?!
Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
merten3000 said:
Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
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What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
mrvanx said:
What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
There are no any official ROMs for any device with build higher than 19971.
All these 20xxx ROMs can be simple fake - old builds with patched version number.
There is no any serious evidence that all these 20xxx builds are real. Only "trustful" words from some "elite" cookers
So, you may trust or not trust. I'm personally, don't trust any build if there is no any official (at least official beta) ROMs with such build. There are so many 100% fake builds are floating around.
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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1) the tool used to compress the dsms into one single package (thus MANY rgu and dsm file compressed into a single dsm file) generates this string, by default it is "BETA go cook your own ROM" or something to that effect but a simple hex editor can change it to something nicer such as "dsms compressed, sorry".
2) These builds (regardless of what people will claim) are genuine and the tool to edit the version numbers (which are encrypted afaik) is VERY rare, too much hassle than its worth to edit ALL the version numbers it would take AGES. They may not have been released on the devices officially but none-the-less they are out there and they are genuine WM6.1 builds. Each to thier own, but the newer builds DO have some serious improvments over the stock releases on the raphael.
merten3000 said:
Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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I had asked your second question myself for a while and then I discover that many websites (in chinese though) such as xbeta.cn or 5dpda, they have the latest builds (many maybe fake) floating around. You can get one of them there. Or you can go to the Nike sub-forum, I find they have a nice storage of the most recent builds (such as 20748 to 20755), which are ported to NIke, you can re-port them using the same technique. My advice is to do a quick search of the whole forum, not just your device's, every one a while to check the newest build. Hope this help.
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There are no any official ROMs for any device with build higher than 19971.
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not true. there are genuine samsung i900/i908 ROMs containing 20270.1.3.1 and 20721.1.4.0 (and others). however I have not seen any genuine ROM containing 20748+.
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The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
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alot of cooks' egos are getting to big....by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it.
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i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions.
(going way off on a tangent here...)
i agree that this community is based on sharing and intentionally making the process harder for another person is counterproductive. however, expecting every experienced chef to cater to every end user's desire to learn the process is the opposite extreme. taking up experienced chef's time to do nothing but train inexperienced chefs would also be counterproductive. in example, i generally do not answer questions on here after the answer has already been made readily available. if you have a legitimate question that you made an honest effort to answer on your own and were unable to, i would be glad to help, and so would most chefs.
i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions. i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
2) I must agree to you about that they can do what they want, but for the part about making it easier I disagree. If it takes me a long time to figure somthing out I will share that knowledge on fora like this just to save others from putting the same effort into it as I did myself. (dutch expression: don't invent the wheel twice...) That's what the idea is isn't it? In my opinion it's selfish to think: I had too work hard so they will also have to do that (we are not 5 year olds are we?). And of course there will always be people who will 'steal a rom' and act as if they made it themselves, but that will be only a few. The majority would be pleased that they can 'finetune' a great chef's rom to their own needs!
I also searched for a year and read thousands of threads. I also started with shipped ROMS. But now I'm getting the hang of it a little and then it's dissapointing that you are not allowed to for example to port a newer xip/sys, to build your OWN cooked rom, because they do not want to share (not all like MrVanx mentionned). But it is just for argument's sake because I found a source for the 20755.1.4.0 XIP and SYS already. And if I can make somebody happy with those, I will be glad to share...
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
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all_packages_to_one.exe
Included in Raphael Kitchen
Cheers
So I'm getting close to nailing down a test build but I keep getting a "System Build" Error... Found out that you have to KISS when it comes to options and only certain portions of the app and funciton list can support multi selects....Now to the question
How can I get a custom rom from one the guru's to beg borrow and still in that thing... do I throw the NBH file of theirs into the OEM USER folder? Or should I beg up their kitchen rars and load those to my kitchen I know NATF and Arrup and some others have load their kitchens will PPC take the RAR's and do it up or am smoking some good stuff all together?
Thanks!
-Gravesy
Most of us dont use PPC kitchen. We use the Build OS and raphael kitchen created by Juggler, Jscepi, ervius and a few others. I know Da_G and I both have modified versions that we have customized. The main reason we dont use PPCKitchen is you lose most of the control over the rom.
You really cant use our roms in PPC kitchen. The only way would be to dump them with raphael kitchen and then use the packages for PPCkitchen.
I woulr suggest you take a look at Da_Gs new kitchen. Overall it will give you a better cooking experience and will let you learn more regarding cooking.
aruppenthal said:
Most of us dont use PPC kitchen. We use the Build OS created by Juggler, Jscepi, ervius and a few others. I know Da_G and I both have modified versions the we have customized. The main reason we dont use PPCKitchen is you lose most of the control over the rom.
You really cant use our roms in PPC kitchen. The only way would be to dump them with raphael kitchen and then use the packages for PPCkitchen.
I woulr suggest you take a look at Da_Gs new kitchen. Overall it will give you a better cooking experience and will let you learn more regarding cooking.
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That's what I was going to do tonite but have only had time to fool around with PPC Kitchen and wanted to see if anyone has stretched it; being a hack I tend to become command prompt allergic and gui-config dependent but his seemed far easier than the standard Ralph Kitchen...stay tuned on Da-G's it seemed hella easy and an even better starter point to get into more advanced topics.
While I got your you don't mind if others take your stuff and try that out as the base... I know its kind of contradictory in retro but I like a wooby when I start something new like this lol.
I dont mind at all Ill upload my OEM ROM SYS folders this evening. My nbh cant be dumped since I combined the dsm file. However I will gladly share the base. Ill post them in my ROM thread.
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I dont mind at all Ill upload my OEM ROM SYS folders this evening. My nbh cant be dumped since I combined the dsm file. However I will gladly share the base. Ill post them in my ROM thread.
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Swee thanks...the toughest thing I that still haven't had the light switch come on about is how to piece mail everything together PPC Kitchen is pretty well documented while the base Advanced Kitchens are still getthing there but like you suggest D_ag's looks like it'll be easy to pick up and use.
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Swee thanks...the toughest thing I that still haven't had the light switch come on about is how to piece mail everything together PPC Kitchen is pretty well documented while the base Advanced Kitchens are still getthing there but like you suggest D_ag's looks like it'll be easy to pick up and use.
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Theres alot of info about the kitchens here if you take a peek over in the kaiser forum. They work identically.
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Theres alot of info about the kitchens here if you take a peek over in the kaiser forum. They work identically.
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Thanks man, I will definitely be reading up!
Arupp,
In reading thru seems easy however just a point of clarity needed; when you say they are identical what do you mean exactly? I know the ROMs are different, but are you roofing to steps and kitchen behaviors? Sorry again for the newb answers just want to be clear
Thanks again!
-GG
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Arupp,
In reading thru seems easy however just a point of clarity needed; when you say they are identical what do you mean exactly? I know the ROMs are different, but are you roofing to steps and kitchen behaviors? Sorry again for the newb answers just want to be clear
Thanks again!
-GG
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Yes operation is identical. There are some differences behind the scenes
I've been reading through a couple of threads on this board concerning upgrading my XV6800 to WM6.5 and I have what may possibly be some stupid questions.
First - I'm the happy owner of two XV6800's so I was planning on using the not-currently-activated one as my guinea pig in case I brick the phone. I've downloaded what appear to be the most current upgrade files from theUnlockr.com and some instructions from that site. What I need to know is is theUnlockr a reliable site? Are these the most current files available? I'm currently upgraded to the 3.57.605.2 ROM and the 3.37.78 radio and I am looking to upgrade the HardSPL (which is what, exactly?), the radio (to 3.42.50 - which, if I am not mistaken, someone mentioned was eating battery life?) and the ROM using the version Unlockr has up as their latest favorite (RMverizonTitanWM65V2[1].1Heavy). I am pretty sure I can follow the directions that were given, but I'm hoping someone here can advise me if I should.
With all these updates running around everyone's 'kitchens' - it's hard for a relative noob like me to know which is the best update for her. I don't really need GPS - though I may load Garmin XT on my phone at some point - but I would like to have an efficient, elegant ROM on my phone that will not hog all my memory and will still give me at least all my current functionality (though hopefully more). Should I even be looking to update to WM6.5? Which update version do you folks think is the best for the Titan/Mogul/XV6800?
Thank you in advance for your patience and for the AMAZINGLY generous soul who has spent the time to generate these files! I went to the Verizon site and they don't seem to even remember what the 6800 looks like! And HTC doesn't have much either. I was amazed to find these sites. You guys are a godsend!
Ariel
Follow below just use whatever rom you want. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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The Titan is a very durable device. In my experience you can flash it at least a hundred times..
So my advice is to try as many ROMs as you like. 6.1, 6.5, Light, Heavy, Naked, Stock. Whatever it doesnt matter. Just keep going until you find what floats your boat.
LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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No problem sir. Glad I could be of assistance. My main computer is broke at the moment and I awaiting a new power supply now, currently using my spare computer (I dont have a spare 1000watt power supply to run my main pc for the banterers lol). Or else I would have my ROMs updated. More for you to mess around with. But the ones I have uploaded now should work out fine. I noticed in the nuetools folder though the leds shortcut is a folder. I fixed that though just have to re-cook and re-upload. Among other changes.
If I were to upgrade to the fix you describe, I'd only have to do the ROM again, right? The hardSPL and radio would be fine? See? I told you, stupid questions...
you are correct only the rom
Hey Guys,
How are you today?
Like all of you can read on the title I need a Chef for cooking my personal ROM for my T-Mobile HD HD2, which at the moment, for me, is the best device and will never die.
My ideas are based on 2 roms, CRACING ROM & NRGZ28 ROM, specifically on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX and Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04.
Both of the Chefs, CRACING and NRGZ28, know what I asking for but currently they don't have time to put together my ideas.
Practically my Project is based on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM and first work is to start change 4 things in this rom, I will be glad to have this rom with Classic Home Tabs, like the stock roms, the Menu/Start on top left corner, like the original 1, background of the small clock on top right corner white and the numbers of the clock black and upgrade some specs ecc. Is not becouse is not good, absolutely, is amazing rom, but I like the rom in different mode. Is just me, nothing is wrong with this roms but I pretend something for me.
Also I want to keep alive this ROMs.
After this 4 changes I will be happy to put into the CRACING rom all the Applications, Tweeks, Lunch Android and Set-ups like or from the Energy ROM, but keeping the full style and full ROM of CRACING, Folders, Themes, almost everything.
Also if we are inside that rom it will be good to upgrade the speed, graphics and ad more progs which I know, for speed and graphics just if is possible.
The most important thing, and I said MOST IMPORTANT, is the BATTERY.
The battery have to stay charge long as he can.
Guys, Chefs, Anybody, I am ignorant in this stuff and I can't do this job, so I will pay for the work if someone EXPERT can do this for me.
Like my Avatar, I need a brain for my machine!
My offer strat from 100 USD to make the small few changes on the CRACING ROM CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX,
and the payment for the work go up if all my request will be made by a Chef to cooking my ROM based on what I already said.
Who is with me?
Please, do not tell me "stick with some rom" or " it can't be done" or any excuses, I know it can be done but just by an expert in this section.
Anyone?
Folks, if my offer is too low just let me know how much it will cost to make my project.
I am serious about this, for someone maybe crazy, but I want do this.
Let me know.
You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
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You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
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I understand, but I really need help from someone who know how do this. I really can't do this by my own, I cry just to understand how I can upgrade my HTC, is not the job for me now and I want a massive ROM soon as is possible. I know we are in the community where nobody sell they roms but I asking for help of experts who can do this work. Is not so easy and I know the hard work of this people so I will pay, for real. If someone don't believe me i will pay in advance 50%.
Someone said, why do you not upgrade with Android? I will, not now, currently I have all what is working well with Windows Mobile 6.5.
Think also about that; I have a BMW M3 and I go to Garage Racing (I can do some work on my engine but everything I can't do by myself) so I asking to performing my engine like I like.
So here we are! Who can do this work?
I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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thanks, I appreciate. I hope you can.
When you try to do some changes on the CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM start with few basic changes which I will like to change, like:
Classic (Original stock) Home Screen Tabs inside the Sense, from Left to Right - all with style of the actual CRASING ROM.
Menu/Start on top left corner, like the stock one. (Original)
Background of the digital clock on top right corner, switch from black to the colour of the theme, should be white, and make the numbers of the clock Black, which right now are white.
We (you) try to do this for the beginning, later we think about the remaining stuffs.
Let me know,
Thanks.
PS: Anyone want help are welcome!!
Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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No man, DON'T GIVE UP!
At the moment you are the only one who try to help me, see this thread, is dead!
if I lose you I will lose any hope.
I spoke to CRACING before open this section and maybe he don't know about this thread but he said he will help if I need too, so contact him and explain which problems you find to change his rom, also send the link of this thread and said I told you to contact him.
You already have the visual of his kitchen so you know what ask.
I try to contact him as well.
I saw the 2 link which you sended to me and is not the same, the ROM CleanEX RV has issue and the Theme GTX is different, is close but different and I will stick with something which is not working properly.
I also agree about WM7, is too restricted.
Let me know.
Cheers.
@Suhaib10
I too was using OSKitchen earlier but later I found it had memory leaks and etc which I don't remember now. OSBuilder is bit complex and takes some time to understand things. If there is a lil mistake, either ROM won't build or device won't boot up. But for professionals, its a great kitchen.
For making easier to people, I have included the kitchen I used to build ROM. If you tried to use it with your kitchen, either it would be osbuilder or etc, you will face major issues.
Wish I could help eclyptos but I no longer have HD2 to test and more busy in life. Not just my house construction (its almost over) but many different things. No time for learning programming languages that helps for develop things on android. :|
And acutully ROM cooking is not that easy. It takes lots of time and research. You will never endup in stable and/or bugfree ROM, even if you do then you will be a master. So becoming a master, Isn't so easy.
eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
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this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
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I kinda forgot most of things now but I think I learn t my self and some help from OSbuilder developers and senior developers. Yes osbuilder is used for wp7 now but works for both. I guess I have seen guides for cooking ROMs using osbuilder but have to search again. If I find any, will let you know.
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AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
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WM6.5 had startmenu on top left? well, I cannot remember well. All I remember now is wm6.1 had startmenu on top and wm6.5 on bottom.
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P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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if you face any troubles, just post it here. even if I don't remember in forehead, they will be present in my back head.
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this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
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Tmous/US HD2 or EU HD2 doesn't matter. my kitchen uses latest kernel and drivers which supports both devices. That also means a single ROM of mine supports both devices.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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I don't know which kitchen you looking for but I find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774430
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don't be confused! I told you, I want CRACING rom but with this few different things. (if possible)
That not mean don't exist ROM like CRASING with Start on top left corner and Classic Home Tabs like in the Stocks ROMs AND also with 4 columns of Quick Links.
CRACING is confused because I told him about the ENERGY ROM (Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04) which is based on OS version 5.2.21916 (21916.5.0.93) but is Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro, he said is WM 6.1 and i don't know why?
CRACING roms is based on OS 23153 and 29022, maybe this is the difference because all the time when I try to find the roms ONLY 21916 was the rom set-up in the mode like I like.
That's mean probably is WM 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
I hope I clarified.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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no, I don't want WM 6.1, I told you, we had some misunderstanding, the Energy rom is Windows Mobile 6.5 with Manila 2.5.20212114.0 but is based on different OS version so can't be 6.1 and like I said to Suhaib10 I don't understand why you said so?
All the time when I search for Custom ROM I have to look for the OS version to understand in which mode is made.
Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
or maybe I don't understood nothing, so never mind!
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Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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YES, we are close, the type of the rom is exactly like in the pics but I will be glad if the ROM will be like your GTX (or Theme).
That's mean have to have all, 4 columns Quick links, Taskbar icons, Tweeks, Folders exc...
I also saw after the installation of Opera 10 on your rom GTX, the icon of the Opera was a little old, graphically bad, was not really nice. The official original T-Mobile ROM for HD2 has amazing nice icons for the app after I try one, so maybe we have to update the .dll of the icons to get the latest stylish type of icons after we solve the OS issue.
:fingers-crossed:
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Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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good, good, keep going...:good: