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Hi all, first I want to say that this site is UNBELEIVABLE!!! I've learned more in one day of reading threads than I did in the weeks I spent researching the 8525 before I bought it! Now to my questions....I am seriouly in love with the touch cube interface I have been reading about and seeing all over the web, I am exstatic that Slither has made one that is compatible with my Hermes, my questions are...if I install it on my phone will I lose anything as far as applications and/or functionality? is it a Permanent change? and am I still able to use my slide out QWERTY?(In ALL the vids I've seen of the program, I've never seen anyone acctually USE the slide out QWERTY)
thanks
Your phone will still be completely functional with Slither's SCLPC++ on it. Remember, you don't actually install it...you run it as a program on the phone. It exists outside of the regular OS, and simply acts as a application launcher/dialer. There is also a great configuration tool for it available here on the boards.
If you don't have fTouchFlo on your phone, you'll need to install that first, and then configure it to launch the cube with an upswipe if you desire that. Personally, I'm not big on that method; I edit my registry to change my left soft key to open the cube.
...and no, it is not permanent. You simply delete the file. Read the thread where Slither explains how and what to do to get it working. As for your question about the keyboard, the cube will not change to landscape when the keyboard is out, but it will still launch just fine and work as promised.
Thank you so much I also found a FTouchFlo on the HTC wiki Forums ( http://rapidshare.com/files/75947199/HTCCube_FTouchFlo_TFloCubeCtrlv110_Config-xplode.cab ) Is this one any good and what is the difference between this one and Sliver's? Also will I be able to change the back ground of my Home screen or will I need to install the HHC(HTC Home Configurator)?
fTouchFlo is made by another user, not Slither2006. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143&highlight=ftouchflo
Just get the last one on there, v.1.4.1. efrost also makes a commercial version of it, but I've never tried it.
As for you Home screen, I assume you mean the HTC Home plugin. Yes, HHC is invaluable for customizing that.
...I do suggest that you search for some of these answers, though.
To All Chef,
During flashing the ROM, when the customization job runs, is it possible to provide the list of application's that come along with the ROM and let the user choose the set of application he wants?
Also, if possible, the job can even delete the cab files of the application which are not choosen by the user. This will save ROM space i guess. I am not a developer, so i am suggestion instead of do something about it, sorry.
Thanks.
I'm not exactly a chef, but I'll respond anyway
For your first question, yes, that is possible, as long as someone develops an app to do that. Hell, I could develop it if there's enough demand.
As for deleting CABs that weren't installed, that is unfortunately not possible because they are already part of the ROM.
Yes it is available. You are talking about the Rom Kitchens available in this forum. Just take a look in the rom kitchen posts then you'll know what I'm talking about. Here are two that currently has the lastest aGPS fix. At0mAng and Da_G's Kitchen and the corresponding packages. The kitchen allows you to pick what you want in your rom, it is very easy to use and you should no doubt give it a try.
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Yes it is available. You are talking about the Rom Kitchens available in this forum. Just take a look in the rom kitchen posts then you'll know what I'm talking about. Here are two that currently has the lastest aGPS fix. At0mAng and Da_G's Kitchen and the corresponding packages. The kitchen allows you to pick what you want in your rom, it is very easy to use and you should no doubt give it a try.
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Thats actual ROM cooking. But i was mentioning about the 'customization' program that runs right after you flash your ROM. If we have an option setup in that program to choose application before it installs, that would nice from users perspective. Just a thought. I am sure everyone will like it.
Trancecoder said:
I'm not exactly a chef, but I'll respond anyway
For your first question, yes, that is possible, as long as someone develops an app to do that. Hell, I could develop it if there's enough demand.
As for deleting CABs that weren't installed, that is unfortunately not possible because they are already part of the ROM.
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I am glad to hear that you could develop. (I dont have that skills). If you develop, we can probably let all the Chef know to use it, if they want.
http://tiermann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9:tier-autoinstall&catid=2PC%20Apps&Itemid=2
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http://tiermann.net/index.php?optio...=9:tier-autoinstall&catid=2:PPC Apps&Itemid=2
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Reading through this thread I knew it was only a matter of time until I found the post with that link
I liked that app but never really used it. Always seemed like too much of an extra step on first boot. Not to mention, some cabs require user input to install and would freeze the device temporarily requiring a soft-reset once it tries to install them.
Trancecoder said:
I'm not exactly a chef, but I'll respond anyway
For your first question, yes, that is possible, as long as someone develops an app to do that. Hell, I could develop it if there's enough demand.
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That would be one cool ass app!
I was thinking of something like this as an xml file. Can it be done with XML? I don't know XML that well but I think it might be able to.
Can you be more specific as to what you were thinking with XML?
I wrote a simple Mortscript that generates a SDConfig.txt based on what files exist in a specific cab folder...
Simpest solution is what many chefs do: Lite and Loaded ROMs
SDconfig in the apps you want to a lite ROM or uninstall the ones you do not from a loaded ROM...
or you could always cook your own custom ROM
dharvey4651 said:
Reading through this thread I knew it was only a matter of time until I found the post with that link
I liked that app but never really used it. Always seemed like too much of an extra step on first boot. Not to mention, some cabs require user input to install and would freeze the device temporarily requiring a soft-reset once it tries to install them.
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I'm guessing the device is not actually frozen. Generally, during customization screen input is locked to prevent the user from interfering with customization.
The device will appear to be frozen because the buttons and screen do not respond. If you were to call your phone you would see that the call comes through, but you can't answer because the buttons are locked out (trust me, a few times my wife has called my cell while I was testing ROMs and a few times she called right when it was doing customization).
You would need to unlock the screen input before running the cab to ensure the user can enter data.
example config.txt
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
TSK: \WINDOWS\Guava Bubbles.tsk
LOCK:Disabled
CAB: \WINDOWS\Microsoft_Sounds.cab
LOCK:Enabled
CFG: \WINDOWS\config_PT.txt
I get the impression that the real goal of this is to prevent the installation of a few items that the rom chef likes but others don't. For example, I personally find no use in SecondToday, but a few chefs include it with their roms.
I think that this would be a non-issue if most applications were uninstallable after setup...at least the apps that tend to be upgraded frequently (Opera, TomTom) and the ones only popular with a few users (SecondToday, TouchResponse).
The argument is "just cook your own or use a different one", but that doesn't really answer many people for whom one rom is nearly perfect, but there's just a little tweak or two to the installed apps that would make it perfect.
I'm not sure this really needs another app or any extra steps in the install process. Not when this would slow down usage for many people, and only really benefit a small percentage
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That's what I use
Ok, so I finally did it, I flashed a cooked ROM to my Fuze. Whew! I did run into a snag or two, but all is good now and I am even ready to try another one to see some of the differences.
I do have a couple of questions though. Flame me if you must, I can take the heat. However, trust me when I say, I read everything on this site.
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
2. I would like to try an NRG ROM, but I still can't quite grasp what customRUU is. Am I free to flash one of these with just the HardSPL that I already did? Or do I need somethign else before flashing one that has this in the folder?
3. Since I am still trying to catch up with what's available out there now...what the heck is CHome? At first, I thought someone mispelled that Google browser thing, but soon figured out that can't be it.
Christine
CDnNC said:
Ok, so I finally did it, I flashed a cooked ROM to my Fuze. Whew! I did run into a snag or two, but all is good now and I am even ready to try another one to see some of the differences.
I do have a couple of questions though. Flame me if you must, I can take the heat. However, trust me when I say, I read everything on this site.
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
2. I would like to try an NRG ROM, but I still can't quite grasp what customRUU is. Am I free to flash one of these with just the HardSPL that I already did? Or do I need somethign else before flashing one that has this in the folder?
3. Since I am still trying to catch up with what's available out there now...what the heck is CHome? At first, I thought someone mispelled that Google browser thing, but soon figured out that can't be it.
Christine
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Welcome to the wonderful and addictive world of customized ROMs. It's one of the best ways to get the most from your Raphael, but sometimes we see things that 'aren't quite right' since they haven't gone through the rigor that vendors put their ROMs through. But then again, we get to play with the new, neat stuff!!!
As I understand it, Manila is HTC's interface/Today skin for the Raphael. You don't have to use it, but most ROM's will have it cooked in, so you'll need to go through the 'setup' as the ROM is first booted on your machine. If you don't want to use it, just go to the Today screen settings and de-select the TF entry.
CustomRUU is the application you run to do the actual install from a PC. There's no need to play with it all, just run it, and everything should happen automagically. There's also an option to run the install from a loaded SD card on the unit itself, but I stick to the Activesync connection version myself.
Sorry, can't help with CHome... I have no idea what that is either.
As I said -- welcome!
Therefore you are?
drtolson said:
Sorry, can't help with CHome... I have no idea what that is either.
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ASFAIK, CHome is the new Today interface for Windows Mobile 6.5.
CDnNC said:
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
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Do you mean the Stylus Alignment? If so, you should always perform a stylus/screen alignment.
Do you mean the G-Sensor Calibration? If so, you should perform the calibration; although you may not use TF3D, many application can "leverage" the G-Sensor capabilities of the device.
HTH,
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ASFAIK, CHome is the new Today interface for Windows Mobile 6.5.
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I thought that was 'Titanium'
congratulations
Here ya go:
ConfettiCore is the underlying display component shared between Start Menu and Today screen.
CHome is the Today screen itself.
Titanium is the skin; alternatives are Bronze, Neo.
HTH,
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Thanks Da_G for your ever so wonderful wisdom and knowledge about all that is Windows Mobile ...
CHome and Titanium are somewhat interchangable. They both refer to the new 6.5 "Default" interface. If you have CHome installed on your ROM, go to Start>Settings>Today>Items and check "Windows Default". Everything else will uncheck itself. Now you can see CHome in action. CHome is new and ofcourse not yet released by Microsoft, so it is not flawless. Showaco has made a great tool for editing CHome so that you can control what is on the today screen. It takes bit of playing to figure it out, but give it a go. I really have become hooked on the simple effeciency of CHome.
As for the Initial Setup of Touch Flow, this is a left over from a previous ROM. Most of the ROM chefs, do not bother changing the set-up screens because they do not matter. They are simply something to display while the phone configures itself. Other Chefs seem to enjoy changing this screen, so results may vary. In any event, no need to worry.
RUU is the wrapper that installs your ROM image on the phone. When you download a rom and unzip it into a folder, there usually are 2 files, the RUU and the NBH file. The NBH file is the real ROM image. The RUU or Wrapper is what installs it to the phone. If you unzip a ROM and the wrapper is missing, simply copy it from a different ROM you have unzipped and add it to the folder with teh NBH file you want to flash. The RUU/Wrapper does not change from ROM to ROM, only the NBH changes. With both the RUU and the NBH in a folder, launch the RUU and it will load the ROM in that folder.
HARD SLP is the first step that will allow you to Flash Custom ROMS. AFTER you Hard SPL according to the directions, choose a ROM, download, unzip and launch the wrapper. You must be attached via activesync. After that, off you go.
Enjoy. Every ROM is like getting a new phone.
Doug M.
Showaco Editor:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481379
Thanks Doug, that helps me understand as it makes perfect sense. I appreciate all of the help I find on this site.
Now on to the next step doing that radio flash.
Excellent, Good to see a fellow Charlottean getting hooked on flashing.
Doug M.
Charlotte?
DAMN! For months, I had been thinking "if only one of these XDA guys lived here, he could show me how to do this and I wouldn't be terrified of bricking my phone"...and here you are?!?!?
Actualy, Titanium is the base WM 6.5 user interface\homescreen, chome refers to the dll plugin being utilized by Titanium. chome was ported from the WM 6.1 slidding panels interface made for smartphones and has been optimized by Showaco and others to offer more pluggin options with Titanium!
Manila 3D is HTC's user interface it is used in conjuction with touchflo but they are different things kind of, touchflo just refers to being able to scroll with your fingers and how the physics engine operates.
RUU stands for ROM Update Utility, it creates a bridge to your bootloader from your PC to flash through Active Sync\ Device Manager.
Hope this helps some!
CDnNC said:
DAMN! For months, I had been thinking "if only one of these XDA guys lived here, he could show me how to do this and I wouldn't be terrified of bricking my phone"...and here you are?!?!?
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Well, here I am. I am by no means an expert, but feel free to get in touch any time. My office is near Northlake mall.
Doug M.
http://www.mediafire.com/?emtyytlrzyl
You need the latest radio.
Un7zip the files to your sd card. Should be a Class 6.
Boot windows and run Haret.exe. Up pops a penguin!
I stole all of this, so thanks belong elsewhere.
Also they need devs to bring this to a rom. If you can help you already know what to do.
Perhaps those of us that 'want', but cannot help can fund a bounty?
What works, what doesn't? Which build? Any screenshots?
just download the package and run haret, and see.
Everything works but camera for me. right now I am working on using this for voip. Very funny to have an unlimited cell for ~10$ a month, or less...
It's not a rom, you just copy it to your sd card and run it inside WinMo. It is so easy to see for yourself I didnt jazz up the post. reset and you boot into WinMo
Working pretty decent on my WM6.5 by Ryan Mogul ROM on Page Plus network (verizon). Calls/SMS/Browsing/youtube/keyboard (both hard and soft) all worked. A few times applications would hang momentarily, and a couple times I had to instruct android to "wait" or "force close" (wait always worked)
I will use it all weekend and see how if I am able to use it full time.
A couple of questions for anyone who can answer:
1) How do I check available RAM?
2) Is it possible switch back to WM 6.5 without turning the phone off?
3) How do you quit an application in Android? Is there any type of task manager?
Because a reader asked, android version is 1.5
Works very well, I have been running it all weekend. I switched out the zImage for one that has the screen rotation corrected. Disable the touch input and android keyboard input, hardware keyboard only works great with less FC's. Switched wallpaper to the grey image. GPS and Bluetooth work, but sadly still no camera or wifi. At least for me. Market also works very well.
I think we could be off to a great start!
Who has any camera or wifi experience with our hardware?
Hey now, give a link to the zimage fix! Better yet zip up your stuff and share it!
freenode has an #htc-Linux They might know about the hardware.
Here you go! I have also made a few changes to the defalut.txt and associated user.conf files.
http://nerdrockit.com/?page_id=10
hi jrgii
it mean u already repackage, and i just need to install the Android ion to my mogul.
COuld you share the screenshot please ?
thanks
Loaded this on my Sprint Mogul, looks good. Is there a list for defining which hardware keys preform what actions?
What is the button(s) to press to shutdown the phone?
I just tried this on my xv6800.. I can't get any ringtones to work on it. Camera does crash the phone. but it did sync my contacts and calander from work Only need to get ringtones working.. but i'm about ready to buy a droid..
.nbh file?
Is there a zImage (or preferably *.NBH) file for the Titan available anywhere?
Something analogous to the .NBH file described at item 6 of the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
I want to try and use the process described in that post, but need a proper .nbh file (zImage) to do so.
Yes, I have used search, so pointers to a URL would be much appreciated.
I have a question for those of you who have tried it. My phone does not show notifications and Marketplace does not actually download anything on my phone. I can send SMS and look at emails, however, so I know the internet works. Anyone else having this problem? It runs very well despite these two things.
sd_matto said:
Is there a zImage (or preferably *.NBH) file for the Titan available anywhere?
Something analogous to the .NBH file described at item 6 of the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
I want to try and use the process described in that post, but need a proper .nbh file (zImage) to do so.
Yes, I have used search, so pointers to a URL would be much appreciated.
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Um, I have an idea, how about you read the first post? Not to be a jerk, but claiming you have searched, when you haven't read the first post, is, well, whats the word I am thinking?
LargePrime said:
Um, I have an idea, how about you read the first post? Not to be a jerk, but claiming you have searched, when you haven't read the first post, is, well, whats the word I am thinking?
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I read the first post. In fact, the entire thread.
The first post references files to load Android off SDCard, but no guidance on how to load Android off internal memory (i.e., REPLACING WinMo, per the link I referenced). Hence, my reference to the link (so that those who would read my question would click the link and understand what I am asking).
Although I appreciate the fact that you took the time to respond, I don't find myself after having read your response any closer to resolving my issue of trying to load Android onto Mogul internal memory (as they are now currently doing with the Vogue). Any guidance you could provide in that regard would be much appreciated.
sd_matto said:
I read the first post. In fact, the entire thread.
The first post references files to load Android off SDCard, but no guidance on how to load Android off internal memory (i.e., REPLACING WinMo, per the link I referenced). Hence, my reference to the link (so that those who would read my question would click the link and understand what I am asking).
Although I appreciate the fact that you took the time to respond, I don't find myself after having read your response any closer to resolving my issue of trying to load Android onto Mogul internal memory (as they are now currently doing with the Vogue). Any guidance you could provide in that regard would be much appreciated.
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There is a zImage in every bootable android package, Including the one in the first post. I do not believe there are any ROMs for the Titan at this point, although work is ongoing.
Exactly what every Titan user wants
Thanks to both LargePrime and jrgii for their prepacks for this phone.
I was very eager to try this out after searching quite a bit, and this made it rather straight forward.
I loaded jrgii's as he mentioned it corrected the screen flip issue. Only thing is that it is super slow and has no audio on my phone.
any suggestions on the sound? I have downloaded the overclocker to see if it helps the speed issue. (maybe its the memory card?)
I can't wait for wifi support. I imagine the data charge$ are not going to be nice using the android features without wifi.
ok, back to play around some more!
One last Q for those who want the rom version. why? As far as I understand (maybe naively) loading off of SD still bypasses winmo so that your resources are used solely on android os. Besides, with the current builds for this phone, you would then be left w/o the bt/wifi/cam features unless you reflash back again, whereas the sd method you can simply reboot.
I realize that I am the newbiest on here (have just been reading until now, and finally registered so I could post here to thank these guys) All I ask is, if you know any answers to help me and care to reply, I do greatly appreciate it.
Until then, I will keep searching and reading hopefully useful and not outdated info.
Thanks!
Did you try the package I found?
I downloaded it, but did not try running it, as one of your posts indicated the screen flip issue. I will give it a shot. thanks!
Also, do you overclock your htc as well? And if you do, what program do you use/ do you launch it from android or linux?
I'll let you know how I make out with your pack
hello guys just set up dxsidia android kitchen not sure if anyone uses this but i have a few questions and since dxsidia does not support this anymore was hoping someone could answer them for me...
1. is the major obvious one does it work on the photon in the thread it does say unconfirmed for atrix but nothing on photon?
2.after creating the work folder i go into advanced options and start editing? i realize since there is nothing on the photon most of my answers are probably going to be try and see but no harm in asking right...
3.it has a set of pluign scripts labeled sgs2/ sgs these are for samsung galaxy s right so i dont want to use any of them?
4. there is a task killer tweak you can add from it what exactly is this?
5. add data/app functionality??? lets you add or remove apps??? not sure is why im asking
there are more q's but i figured if i can get these answered im doing good
ive read the thread for a few days now and seems simple but confusing at same time seems like its a one click type thing but if you dont know for sure what you are clicking can really screw up and have to start from scratch... anywho trying to do more around here and would appreciate any help anyone has thanks a ton
1) Yes in terms of an apk is an apk. No in terms of the updater script (IIRC)
2) Yes, assuming theres options in the advanced menu you'd like to impliment
3) You don't need the Samsung plugins.
4) Changes minfree settings in the boot image. Be aware the ICS impliments memory handling differently than previous versions.
5) Adds a script and folder for data/app partition so you can include optional apps. Optional apks (things like nascar for example) could be placed in here and would be installed on flash. But because they are in /data, the user has the option to uninstall through manage apps.
Personal Opinion: While the kitchen may be a convienient way to do things, it leaves little (Read: No) room for learning. Assuming you'd like to create a body of work to be publically distributed and not just for personal use, it might be worth the upfront investment in figuring out how to do/script this stuff yourself. That's not me trying to be an elite a-hole, that's me giving solid advice.
Cheers!
Yeah im a trying to learn as much as i can ive been reading and reading and reading have always known about the kitchen just never tried it thanks for the response you didnt come off as elitest is all good i find its easier for me to learn by trying things while reading about it granted i do research in great lengths not just in xda but other forums, blogs, links so on and so on before even downloading these tools but as i said it seems to sink in better when i can go ok i use this option this what it means thats what it did this what its supposed to do/look like
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So ive been trying all day to spit out a rom with the kitchen and no matter what i do it doesnt install either get status 7 or 0 says was looking for 4agrs but only found 3 and sometimes says 3args but only found 2 ive tried using a rom i know flashes and just running it through the kitchen and flashing the output... idk what im doing wrong but starting to think it is not photon compatible any insider tips? i know i already asked this but not quite ready to surrender to defeat on this yet and i REALLY dont want to install linux or ubuntu on my computer would have to partition it and just not to keen on doing that to the family computer my kids and wife play on it almost more than i do