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Following from a previous thread before someone blocks it...
I understand that we are flashaholics and keep trying loads of different roms one after the other and are waiting for one which works reliably and does not miss any standard WM6 functions.
Can I ask if that is your case?
Before you respond, please read the wording carefully. Nobody is saying that there should be a rom which magically installs the applications wanted by the person holding the phone at the time. That's impossible, you see. I'm asking if you are waiting for a rom which rarely crashes, has a working camera, wifi, bluetooth, working Media Player, working SD card etc. Again, just in case you missed it, bug-free, not a telepathic rom which already has all the apps you like.
(Respects and admiration to: Cloudyfa, hma4, Gollum, korand)
A real good question....maybe it could be done, when the users of a certain rom report to the cooker and they work together until the release is as bug-free as it could be...f.x. gullums Coffie multilanguage has some bugs but only very very few and with help from the native speakers every bug could possibly be fixed, I think....
a believer..
i do believe everybody want a free bugs rom.i agree with invd.
1. need to work it out together
2. need experience user
after all,for me this flasholic is just a hobby
like roms with fully functional features with great interface.
i wonder if this roms can be modified like windowblinds or bricopacks aspirate or somethin similiar.
I have WM6 Korand WWE 2.5 on my Prophet for about a week and i have not noticed any serious bug.It's fast ,it's stable and finally it's CLEAN.
Consider also that the previous WM6 Korand ROM had some issues with certificates that Korand managed to solve in the last version.
So YES i believe that cookers working with users will finally create the BUG FREE ROM.
(Hope that this will happen soon)
you must understand that cooker are not working for the users,they are just sharring their work with us,you shoud give them a big thanks,and stop blaming the threads with stupid questions and requests.let's give those guys a little respect.
If you think you can create a bug free rom then try it. And show some respect to the cookers.
Sorry, I fail to see why recommending that cookers work together towards a bug-free base rom shows a lack of respect. Read my 1st post in this thread. If you can see anything there which shows a lack of respect then either my use of English or your reading of it is deficient. Apologies either way.
i agree with him
littld said:
Sorry, I fail to see why recommending that cookers work together towards a bug-free base rom shows a lack of respect. Read my 1st post in this thread. If you can see anything there which shows a lack of respect then either my use of English or your reading of it is deficient. Apologies either way.
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easy boys
he didn't mean to disrespect the cookers
for me i have the same question
cause i tried a lot of roms and i have at least one problem or more in each one
again thanx for our cookers and please try to make bug free rom although microsoft cant do it yet
in the opinion of everyone that reads this post i want to see what the best firmware is for the touch pro, everyones input is welcome...i plan on flashing my first rom very soon...the stock rom seems unstable and rough
i have only seen a couple available but am interested in this as well. Especially the Fuze rom.
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in the opinion of everyone that reads this post i want to see what the best firmware is for the touch pro, everyones input is welcome...i plan on flashing my first rom very soon...the stock rom seems unstable and rough
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It's unlikely you'll get an answer to that without telling for what country/network... That is unless you don't use it as a phone
I'm looking for a ROM that is fast in performance and also ROMs that are good on battery life.
Any suggestions?
Currently, I'm using NATF's 2.3 ROM, so this one is pretty early. I don't like to flash ROMs too often, because I have to get in there and load in the files that my phone previously had and I find that to be a pain...right now,
id also like to know your guys's opinions too. i posted this same kind of thread last week and it got shut down by one of the mods... its ok though.
like im having a hard time finding one i want, that has good features+quality+speed and whatnot..
you guys know what i mean?
You can flash a rom pretty fast. I have test most of the roms but what i want and like in a rom may be different then what you want and like. Try all of them and see what you like.
Man you are gonna get so many different answers. It's really up to your preference. Try a few and see what suits you, use PIM Backup or Spb Backup so you don't lose anything. I flash ROMs later at night when I usually don't get much coming into my phone during the few minutes of down time.
The reason we are quick to close "whats the best xxxx" threads is because it usually depends on an individuals opinion on the "best xxxx".
As with most threads of this nature it usually ends up in a poorly backed up argument over a few users who wont back down from the argument.
I'll leave this open for now but should this thread fall into that situation its gonna be locked.
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The reason we are quick to close "whats the best xxxx" threads is because it usually depends on an individuals opinion on the "best xxxx".
As with most threads of this nature it usually ends up in a poorly backed up argument over a few users who wont back down from the argument.
I'll leave this open for now but should this thread fall into that situation its gonna be locked.
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can we have a post just a pool which is your favorite ROM, without any comment or reply?
I've tried almost all the ROM here, and still very intrigued on knowing which ROM is the most used. Also it would help other to give other ROM a chance.
The correct answer is : there is no best ROM.
Or if there is, no one has ever seen it yet. (And it is a build of WinMo7)
Each rom is customized to however the chef desires. That could match your desires exactly, it could not. This, combined with the individual skill and dedication of the amazing chefs to work out bugs, maximize tweaks and release updates, is what makes up if a rom is good or not.
It is your own self who defines good, however.
In terms of battery life:
You will find it will vary a little from rom to rom, naked and manila-free roms usually outperforming the rest. However, if you are truly looking for performance differences, try out a few different radios. Those have an actual large bearing on signal stregnth and battery life.
What roms have I used:
Quick history
Stock ATT Fuze rom + Reg tweaks + manila tweaks - (1-2 days)
ROMeOS (1-2 weeks)
Elite RC2 (1 month)
RRE (2-3 weeks)
ROMeOS (1-2 days)
I dont give version numbers since I choose a rom track and stick with it through the updates. Meaning I flashed all the updated versions to ROMeOS until switchted to RC2, then I did the same thing with RRE. Made it kind of difficult when it was jumping 4.x seemingly daily
Either way, they all performed great, just better in certain areas. Currently I am very happy with the current ROMeOS rom. However, I am eyeballing RC3 and actually considering testing out a few things on the stock att rom once again.
My input!
Well, I’ll take a stab at this. Sounds like you’re in the boat I was in just a few weeks ago, so I’ll try and give as unbiased opinion about the ROM I choose as possible. Because let’s be honest here, there is NO BEST ROM. From what I can tell, all the ROMs in XDA are well though out, and clearly have a lot of hard work invested in them, typically by freelance developers. So they definitely deserve a “Tip of the Hat” as far as all their hard work is concerned.
I actually started out knowing little to nothing about ROM flashing. So naturally I started at Flashing your First GSM Raphael Rom thanks mskip! I was fortunate enough to have had a friend that flashed his Tilt and explained to me the joys of flashing a non-stock ROM to clear up all the bloat ware that’s normally shipped with them. I had a lot of time between when I had ordered my Fuze and receiving it, so that gave me an edge in researching what I though was going to be the best ROM for me ( operative word here, ME ). Because as mrvanx pointed it, the “best” ROM is purely subjective based on the user.
I looked at pretty much all the most heavily posted on/used forums. Read what people had to say about the ROM, the problems they were experiencing, the pro/cons and overall just tried to get the best gist of what people thought about the ROM’s performance.
I looked at Lantis, NATF V4, PROven, Elite RC2 ( also RC3 ), ROMeOS^2, Da_G Clean, DCS-TouchPro-v15, TouchXperience (not yet released) and finally T.i.R. v10 R + P.D.M. 4.1. There’s many others that I’ve not mentioned, not because their any less worthy but because I just didn’t run across them in my search.
Let me say this off the bat. ALL of the above listed were in my opinion amazing looking ROMs. There were things I liked about all of them, and also things that concerned me as far as some of the problems that people were experiencing with them. That said, I realize ( as should everyone ) there will always be problems with the ROM you choose. Even the stock ROM that AT&T subjects you too is going to have problems.
What was I looking for in a ROM? User ability, overall speed and response of TF3D, the programs installed/removed from stock and the look and feel of the TF interface. I was also looking for which ROM I felt had still retained all the functions of the stock ROM with out the added useless software. PPT for instance, I didn’t need, so why would I want a ROM that has it installed, using vital memory when I’m never going to use it?
In the end, I chose T.i.R. v10? Why? The reason may surprise you, because it was blue. Yeah, I know, it’s a dumb reason, but hey, that’s my reason; well at least it’s what initially attracted me. But additionally, it encompassed what the other ROMs had as far as TF3D was concerned, used a minimum amount of memory ( not the best utilization mind you, look to Da_G Clean build for that ). Still retained functions like the FM radio, Quick GSP, Opera 9.5, easy task manager, youtube, ZIP, Labyrinth ( what? The game is addicting! ), G-Sensor Calib, enhanced Camera functions and etcetera. But overall, what I liked the most was the look and feel of TF3D in blue and the new icons.
It really was a toss up between T.i.R., Lantis and PROven. They all had features I liked, but like I said, T.i.R. was a little more unique in it’s graphics. Is T.i.R. the best? No, like I said, what’s best for one, is not going to be best for another. But I like it, and I’m resilient to flash something else at the moment because nothings broke yet, so no need to fix it! Overall, the T.i.R. team did a great job with the visuals and keeping TF3D fast. Clearly faster then the stock ROM, and far cleaner as far as third apps are concerned. It did not have a slid to answer feature, but I found a separate CAB file for that.
Overall, they’re all going to have their strong points and weak points and it’s all a matter of what you find most appealing and how you use your phone on a daily basis. Something’s you may find essential may be features like slide to answer and the in call guard screen. And obviously the keyboard fix if you’re a Fuze user.
I hope that give you, and others, a little insight about what to look for and how to choose. Research, flash and try it. If it doesn’t fit flash something else. Hopefully others join in with what they’ve experienced in flashing. What they like and dislike. (^_^) Bare in mind, the more feed back we leave, the better.
yup, Plazma pretty much covered all the bases!
1 thing that wasn't mentioned is that some ROMS contain some programs that others don't. But people here are more than welcome to supply you with a .cab that will take care of that for you.
Hands Down SSK 1.5 his rom runs smoother and is more stable than any other rom i have flashed including Juicy 4.13, MightyRom4.13, Juggalo's Newest and many more. I know this is just my personal favorite you should try it!!!
energyrom 2.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481402
look at 2nd post. has the new tp2 manilla also. pretty stable and smooth
Quite surprisingly I couldnt find a thread like this, though it is a very interesting one for newbies... I tested Proven Manila HD and Panosha Pro 1.0. I must admit that of the two Proven is better and overall reeeeally nice. Both in terms of graphics/icons and speed and addon apps. I wonder if there is any other ROM worth testing. I repeat: my criteria is:
a) speed
b) stability
c) nice and usefull apps but not too many
d) nice looking and working TF3D (can be HD or TP2).
Any ROM with known issues or bugs that cant be overcome and are important are not fit for me...
Any ROM candidates for testing then to challenge Proven?
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Quite surprisingly I couldnt find a thread like this, though it is a very interesting one for newbies... I tested Proven Manila HD and Panosha Pro 1.0. I must admit that of the two Proven is better and overall reeeeally nice. Both in terms of graphics/icons and speed and addon apps. I wonder if there is any other ROM worth testing. I repeat: my criteria is:
a) speed
b) stability
c) nice and usefull apps but not too many
d) nice looking and working TF3D (can be HD or TP2).
Any ROM with known issues or bugs that cant be overcome and are important are not fit for me...
Any ROM candidates for testing then to challenge Proven?
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the link above is what you want. its awsome. ive tested a few roms and this is a rom with alot of new fetures. 8/10
It’s really all about preference. I have tested out almost every ROM that has been posted in the past two months and they are all nice but I keep going back to RRE ROMs. Here is the thread for the newest build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488781
Mine of course
Another vote for Energy
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energyrom 2.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481402
look at 2nd post. has the new tp2 manilla also. pretty stable and smooth
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Another vote for Energy 2.0 - this rom rocks - very fast and stable despite the new TF3d still not being totally ported.
I've been using Energy since I got my Fuze, the latest I have is 1.5, no tf3d, and my memory usage at boot is 150mb free. That is just amazing. I have been into pointui2, it seems to slow after awhile, and has some bugs, but is much prettier and more useful than tf3d. Once the community over at pointui.com gets into it, it may be the best homescreen plugin. On my tilt I used Gsmart touch, and loved it. I need to try a few others, but am a tweak hog and the least memory used normally wins for me.
I want to prerequisite this post with the statement that I have read through the raphael wiki and the flash for newbs thread.
I've been a tweaker up till now (Kaiser tweak and now diamond tweak) and finally have gathered up the courage to flash a ROM on my fuze. Couple of quick questions:
First - I'm thinking NATF, any other suggestions on different ROMs and +/- of each? Which is most stable needing least tweaks? I'm on vacation right now and can afford to put in some time on this but once works starts again, 80+hr/weeks, won't have time to mess with this much.
Second - in general, once a ROM is flashed, does it need much work. that is, will I need to keep d/l new updates/tweaks and will it really become time intensive. As mentioned above, if it's going to suck up more time in the future, I might just want to stick with ATT bloat removed and a stock ROM?
Anything else I should know before I set forth??
thanks, I've learned tons from all of you guys/gals on this, fuzemobility, and ATT forums!
I've used NATF, ROMeOS and PROven ROMs. Each worked great for me. I would recommend you test each one to see which one meets your requirements or you like better... just a matter of preference as all 3 are pretty stable.
As for updates, normally there are not much updates unless there are some bugs or something not working as expected. Otherwise, the ROMs are stable enough to run for a while unless a new version comes out and you need the feature or added functionality.
The Fuze is fairly new and the cooks are busy making new ROMs so you may see a release every other day, every week, or once a month... who knows.
I definitely recommend you flash your device with something else instead of leaving the stock AT&T ROM. You'll like your device even more. Even if you don't have time to keep up with the latest release, a cooked ROM will be much better.
Good luck.
NATF for me. It performs the best on my FUZE and is very fast; it destroys the lag of the Stock ATT ROM. But in the end, you have to go with the one that works best for you and your needs.
i've been running RRE by Arupenthall and it has worked great for the last week.
It all depends. In my humble opinion, the level of sofistication goes like this: Da_G>NATF>RRE>ROMeOs>PROven
What I mean by sofistication is basicaly the level of existing softwares on the ROM and "again this is very user dependent" the speed. i exclude Da_G ROMs as they are Manilla ones "completely ripped of most 3rd party software including the TF3D interface" because they are the fastest ever and you can pretty much guess why.
Now if you're going to flash from an original, be prepared for some bugs. It's a "joy Ride" yes, but with some "issues' somewhere. It'll only depend on where you will get the issues and whether you can live with them.
My personal experience which I share with you is the following:
- Being an Egyptian, I did like the NATF ROM but it was too "AT&T" for me
- ROMeos is pretty good and stable but somethings that Monx sticks to in his Roms "which by the way is completely his right" did not appeal to me
- Da_G is super light, super fast but super empty and I use it only if I miss the good old days of my dead i-mate 2020
- RRE and PROven are very competitive and very good as well but I think the PROven one is more accomplished and the RRE is more "AT&T" friendly. These 2 are my favorite candidates right now.
- As for the ELITE one, I cannot give an opinion as I never tried one. In fact I never will until these wonderful ELITE people humble themselves and call their ROM with any other name that do not put them separated from the rest of the NORMAL Chefs who are doing a wonderful job FREE OF CHARGE to our XDA community.
(PLEASE BARE IN MIND THAT THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION WHICH COULD BE BIASED AND COULD BE ALSO WRONG, BUT IS CERTAINLY MY PERSONAL OPINION)
I've looked over the ROMs and the way i picked is just looking at the changelog and the screenshots. Some of them come with tons of stuff, some come with almost nothing. I like the more "nothing" OS so that i can add what i want to add (via CABs) and forget the rest. As a result i chose Da_G's ROM because it's similar to AT&T's minus all their stuff i wont use. I don't need the extra applications some of the others come with but other people out there love those things
Thanks for the input everyone, much appreciated. I guess I'll take a look at a couple of screen shots and go from there....
Great thread. We're not all experts and we haven't all flashed all the ROMs so this is a valuable resource.
Out of curiosity, is there a limit to how many times you can flash a Fuze?
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Great thread. We're not all experts and we haven't all flashed all the ROMs so this is a valuable resource.
Out of curiosity, is there a limit to how many times you can flash a Fuze?
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I don't think there is a true physical limit but NATF in his podcast on fuzemobility said he went through 6 tilts in 13 months since he was flashing so often. he thought it might be related to the numerous flashes and the effect on memory (i'm no electrical engineer so I can't add anything to this statement).
For any new comers to flashing, I do suggest listening to the interview with NATF on fuzemobility about pros/cons and other background on the flash process. http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=768
I'm going to go forth and put on NATF so will keep everyone updated.
One quick question though, if flashing NATF, do I still need a radio or does NATF install a radio on his ROM?
Thanks.
never mind, i found the radio thread under raphael..thanks.
Great thread for us noobs
Well, I think I have obtained enough information and know-how on how to build roms and my cab/package vault has grown over time. I think its time to start giving back to this community and offer up my services with providing yet another 6.5 rom for everyone.
The question is, what is everyone's favorite build? A lot of people will stick with the latest build and I'm sure I will have to as well to keep it fresh and new, but for my first rom I want to build it based on what everyone's favorite build has been so far, so please vote for your favorite build.
I look forward to to both helping and giving back to this community who has helped my very much.
Although it's a good idea, I don't know how many of us actually know the difference between those. It might very well just be me, but i have no clue what the difference is between those. If you could post some differences between builds, it would help. Functionality, stability, battery use, etc.
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Although it's a good idea, I don't know how many of us actually know the difference between those. It might very well just be me, but i have no clue what the difference is between those. If you could post some differences between builds, it would help. Functionality, stability, battery use, etc.
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Well thats the thing, some may perform better than for others. It al has to do with personal preference... and then there are some builds that nobody just likes. I stuck with 21222 for a long time because I liked the speed and stability.
Great initiative!
IMHO;
Most folks will probably defer to you expertise in determining which ROM edition will be best for them.
Adjusting the poll for features like:
Battery Life
Ease of use in Cellular mode
Ease of use in PPC mode
Typical applications to include
Manila or Non-Manila - no not Vanila; as my wife calls it
Connectivity (bt, wifi, etc.)
Might reveal a better cross-section of what to provide.
Cheers,
Yea each release seems to be different. 21222 was awesome for me. Seemed to be the fastest although 21815 is what I am using now and seems ok (still laggy though).
21222 was really the sweet spot.
Hey adam! Good job! Enter the cooking world Just be ready for the tedious reading, learning, and flashing to come. I still don't fully understand it, but it takes time to iron out the kinks and it's tedious to flash over and over again, but it seems worth it when you get closer and closer to what you want. And a vault you say? Surely you'll have to upload that vault somewhere
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Well, I think I have obtained enough information and know-how on how to build roms and my cab/package vault has grown over time. I think its time to start giving back to this community and offer up my services with providing yet another 6.5 rom for everyone.
The question is, what is everyone's favorite build? A lot of people will stick with the latest build and I'm sure I will have to as well to keep it fresh and new, but for my first rom I want to build it based on what everyone's favorite build has been so far, so please vote for your favorite build.
I look forward to to both helping and giving back to this community who has helped my very much.
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Oh, Gawd NO!!! *I'm a Libra* .... and we can never decide....
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This thead is a good idea
Wow I was just thinking about starting the same thead topic!
We all need to give some sort of feedback in regards to what we like and what\why we are currently running. My person best was 21728 as it seem to be the smoothest if not the fasted build. Not many people tried it as DaG skipped it even though he gave us the sys. I am currently checking out a sys and xip ripped from a emu bin file to see if I see any difference as it just so happens to be 21234. Switching back and forth to see if the new VM enhanced NK.exe from DaG make a difference compared to the original 6.1 compatible NK.exe.
Keep that feedback coming in as the more opinions that are expressed the easier the decisions will be for others.
I agree with dcelluser. I am up to 21728, I dont any change as far as battery life is concern, but its better in terms of stability & smoothness. Battery is more than builds quality thus I need to know if someone finds any other build with any radio giving maximum battery, rest is always the same from 21222.
21728? Hmm, I dont even remember seeing that build. I wonder who else likes that build? Too bad I cant edit my own poll...
As far as everything else is concerned, why dont you guys also write in and say why you voted for xxxxx build and why. Was it the stability, speed, batter, ect... and what you thought about it. It may give a little more insight for other people as well.
In the meantime, im toying around with themes, taskbars and manila so when I figure out which first build to use, Ill have everything else lined up already.
I found 21222 to be the most stable build so far and had no issues with battery.
I'm flashing back to my 21222/21502 as we speak because the 218xx builds have been buggy for me.
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I found 21222 to be the most stable build so far and had no issues with battery.
I'm flashing back to my 21222/21510 as we speak because the 218xx builds have been buggy for me.
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Yeah, 21222 I think is still my favorite. Im still waiting for a 216xx build to be leaked as the 216xx line is supposed to be from HTC.
Buggy? What do you mean buggy?
Always keep with the latest, causes some cooking headaches but I find 21815 to be stable and fast so far
its just that noone has cooked new official ROM hotfixes with old builds so I am using new builds otherwise I hardly see any change in its performance. They are all same almost.
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Always keep with the latest, causes some cooking headaches but I find 21815 to be stable and fast so far
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Yeah, Im going to have to stick with new releases once I move on to my second release... but for my first initial release, I wanted to build a rom that most people like as an incentive for trying my new rom.
Once that happens though, I might start throwing out two releases... another oldie but goodie rom and a new leaked build.
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Yeah, Im going to have to stick with new releases once I move on to my second release... but for my first initial release, I wanted to build a rom that most people like as an incentive for trying my new rom.
Once that happens though, I might start throwing out two releases... another oldie but goodie rom and a new leaked build.
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Just be careful doingthis. It can be hard to sync two release. Even just trying to change between a Fuze build and a TP build bugged me so much that I created a Mortscript to change KB layout!
how about just putting in your blood sweat and tears to create what you think is a kick ass rom. Thats all anyone could really ask for. And not that Im asking, but I know you will. Just put that disclaimer all the other guys put in their title post, that this rom is built to your likings. If you get some whiny kid complaining because it doesnt have the extra 50 levels of Teeter, just forget about them. Just do your best with all that knowledge you have accumulated, and you'll for sure put out something great. You have been around long enough to know whats good and what doesnt work. Now Im excited to see you put it in to play. Use the build that worked best for you!
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Yeah, Im going to have to stick with new releases once I move on to my second release... but for my first initial release, I wanted to build a rom that most people like as an incentive for trying my new rom.
Once that happens though, I might start throwing out two releases... another oldie but goodie rom and a new leaked build.
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I think that's the way to go because you'll have your users that always want the latest and greatest and other users that want stability.
Hmm... 21234!
Well I extracted the XIP and SYS from a 21234 MS emulator ROM and cooked using the latest official Fuze 5.11 payloard and NK.exe these are the results:
Awesome battery life!
Awesome speed!
Great stability and ...
Official ROM from MS!
I think I just found my favorite ROM!
My Fuze is at 90% battery life after 8hrs if emails and light internet surfing!
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I think I just found my favorite ROM!
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Care to share?
Hi guys -
So I've been out of the whole xda thing for a while and haven't had a chance to keep up on all the current ROMs but I just picked up a Fuze for my gf and want to get a nice snappy ROM on there for her.... something better than stock.. I can't remember all the ROM releasers but I used to have a favorite fuze ROM here and can't remember who it was... I guess whoever it was retired from the fuze because I don't see him posted here any more...
In any event, could someone point me in the direction of a fast and stable ROM that has everything working properly... the key things she uses are texting messaging so this would hopefully be one that has the good tmail cooked into it... I've been messing around with the wm6.5 ROMs but haven't been too impressed so if solid/stable/fast is wm6.1 that will do.
text messaging without the buggy cursor is the emphasis of my search...
THANKS!
My current favorite is the Timolol ROM. In my experience it has proven to reasonably fast and almost flawless. I have not encountered any bugs thus far (3 days of heavy use and loading my own apps). This does not have Touchflo. If it has a down side, it is a bit boring; no flashy features or great eye candy. For me this is fine. I use my TP as a work device so I really have no need for glitz.
The NRG ROMS are also very popular and have very cool features. The NRG ROMS are more fun to play with and have good eye candy. However, this comes at a price. Some of the features are ported from non-TP devices which invariably introduces a measure of instability.
Ifshe does not like to fiddle with the phone, go Timolol. If she likes to play with features, go with NRG.
There are tons of other great ROMS, so you may need to play around a bit to choose one. Hopefully this will be enough to get you started.
Good Luck,
Doug M.
Its all a matter of opinion, and its only a matter of time until this thread gets closed like all the others.
RRE v8.1 is probably his most stable release yet. NATF v5.1 has been stable since it came out yesterday. NRGZ was also stable for me.
These are the WM6.5 ROMs though.
this question is not welcome here
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