Opera 9.5 beta (official) - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

This is an email that I just received for those of you who are eager to find out what opera mobile beta is like
Cheers.
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Hi,
Here's your sneak peek. By accessing the link below and agreeing to our embargo, you'll get the chance to play with Opera Mobile 9.5 beta 1. We'll make the beta publicly available on Thursday at 10:00a.m. CET.
Everything you need to know about the beta is included in the Reviewer's guide. Just hit the link below.
One thing to keep in mind, though: We're still polishing the final beta 1 build, so please note that there may be bugs - some potentially significant - in the the version you try today.
To download and install Opera Mobile 9.5 beta 1:
http://www.opera.com/press/reviews/mobile/
If you have any questions, please shoot them our way.
U.S. Pacific timezone:
Thomas Ford
[email protected]
+1 310 739 6555
Central European timezone:
Tor Odland
[email protected]
+47 2416 4242
Best,
Thomas Ford
Edit: Go to post 13 for the official beta

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It uses IE favourites!!
What a wonderful change. No longer the need to maintain two separate sets of bookmarks now.

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yeah i was playing with it overnight. hope they sort the rotation and keyboard bugs soon,
Im currently using the latest build of iris browser, its a bit slower over gprs but faster and renders better over wifi

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I just test it in my HTC Touch using Wifi and it's great. The doble click to zoom, the iPhone like scrolling, accesing real web pages not pda-prepared ones, the auto full screen... all the features are great. And the interface and the settings.
What a great product! I can't wait till arrive home to test it in my X7500.
Well done OPERA - (insert lot of clapping here)

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Rubbish
It is rubbish. Like last few versions after 1184 build. They seem to belong to those porogramers who believe that they know better then the user, how he should use the software. And on top of that they did not notice that there are such devices like Athena and Dimond with VGA screen best used in landscape.
Maybe for poore Touch users (nothing personal) it is good, but not for us. I have written about it already while build 14xx was released, but they obviously do not read our comments.
To Opera builders: if I want to turn my screen to portrait, I have better tools to do it. I realy do not need Opera to do it for me.
I am back with 1184 build.

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I almost never use my device landscape mode. In that mode, I feel the screen is too wide and too low. As a result, my keyboard covers a big percentage of the screen, many programs shows too few lines (for example, too few items in the Contact application, too few files in file explorer, too few items in registry editors) with too much blank space on the right side of the screen.
So I have noticed the problems that you might have encountered.
I find the beta1 to be more instant and fast in making the data connection.
I make the normal changes to minimum overview zoom (70% this time), and display in large font. For some web pages, have to use smaller fonts. Also make the change to the limit paragraph width option so that the paragraph does but occupy only a small portion of the screen at the left hand side.

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Tadeusz said:
They seem to belong to those porogramers who believe that they know better then the user, how he should use the software.
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What do you mean by that? Nice vague nonsense there...
To Opera builders: if I want to turn my screen to portrait, I have better tools to do it. I realy do not need Opera to do it for me.
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What are you talking about, and why are you acting like a baby over a beta (unfinished software)? Report it to Opera instead of posting it here where no one from Opera will read it. And even if they did read it, they would have no idea what you are talking about because you never actually explain what you are talking about.

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the best opera i tried too...if the screen dont rotate on portrait when exit, this wil be the best...thank you

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White the speed of the browser seems faster and connection more reliable, there are some still issues.
I've decided to use the default MinimumOverview Zoom setting of 30% because only with this could I see web pages without having to scroll at the overview level. The only problem is that at that level, all the links are non-active (meaning I can't click the link to go to the related web pages).
Another problem that I find is that at the overview level, the paragrah texts occupy only the small space on the left, leveing most side of the screen blank. This problem could be solved if I blank out the "limit paragraph width" option in that at the overview level the paragraph width stretch and occupies the entire screen width. However, that result in having to scroll left and right at the zoomed-in level since the browser does not "reflow" the paragraph to fit within the screen width.
The beta seems to cause my keyborad to revert back to the standard keyboard quite often too.
Does anyone else experience the same issues as what I have just described?
Anyway, I'm already testing a newer beta (build 1718) posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
I have not received an email from opera mentioning this build, but have tried out the newer build anyway.
In a few hous time, the real public beta will be released. I'll re-test these and provide feedback to Opera based on that version. No point doing it on these two peak version as every few hours they have a new release.

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eaglesteve said:
Anyway, I'm already testing a newer beta (build 1718) posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
I have not received an email from opera mentioning this build, but have tried out the newer build anyway.
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This is the official release. The other one was some kind of press preview.

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EyeAmRubber said:
This is the official release. The other one was some kind of press preview.
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1718 is already the official release? Are you sure? You seems to have insider information then? Or.. are you from Opera organization itself?
Anyway, I noticed that 1718 does fix an issue I noticed in the first peak beta. In the peak beta, if I type in "Opera:" into the address, I expect to see everything that starts with that including "Opera:config" to be displayed immediately. It does not happen, but 1718 fixes that.
edit: you're right. This appears to be the official beta release. The link to opera's download site is here:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/951b1/opera_wm5_ppc_951b1.cab

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eaglesteve said:
1718 is already the official release? Are you sure? You seems to have insider information then?
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Yeah, insider information, that's me

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EyeAmRubber said:
Yeah, insider information, that's me
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I see. Missed that one as I thought they would send me an email again for this one but they did'nt.
Thanks.
Edit: Wait, the link that you provided is for build 1706, which is not the official beta build I thought.
For those wanting build 1718 direct from Opera, get it from here:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/951b1/opera_wm5_ppc_951b1.cab

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This is exactly what I was looking for. Nice one opera !

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I liked Opera but 2 things really irked me and made me stop using it.
1) It didn't use IE favorites
2) It would automatically open the soft keyboard whenever I went over a text box.
I hear they've fixed the first one, does anyone know if they fixed the second one?
Thanks.

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EyeAmRubber said:
What do you mean by that? Nice vague nonsense there...
What are you talking about, and why are you acting like a baby over a beta (unfinished software)? Report it to Opera instead of posting it here where no one from Opera will read it. And even if they did read it, they would have no idea what you are talking about because you never actually explain what you are talking about.
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Just read, if you can. And read some other posts of others as well as my posts concerning earlier versions of Opera. In particular read the post next after yours, if my is not clear to you.
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions. The build up to 1184 was not doing this and I am sure all the others would like to keep it that way.
By the way. We have a habit here. If any app is shown here, we try to test it and give a comment, what we like and what we do not like. We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders. Since 14xx build was released, this strange behavior was commented by various people here and now you are coming and saying that it is a baby comment. Nice comment of you, an insider.

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Tadeusz said:
Just read, if you can. And read some other posts of others as well as my posts concerning earlier versions of Opera. In particular read the post next after yours, if my is not clear to you.
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions. The build up to 1184 was not doing this and I am sure all the others would like to keep it that way.
By the way. We have a habit here. If any app is shown here, we try to test it and give a comment, what we like and what we do not like. We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders. Since 14xx build was released, this strange behavior was commented by various people here and now you are coming and saying that it is a baby comment. Nice comment of you, an insider.
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He is right after build 1184 the rotation occurs not only when you exit opera just doing anything else like txt msg it happens,and it's annoying! Tho i like this build i didnt downgrade like evreyone else thn the opera forums its been brought up as well as the sip kybd issue and the big notification shutoff bugs.Hopefully the next build/beta works better keep your fingers crossed.

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Looks interesting, but the rotation to portrait drove me absolutely batty in under 2 minutes. You don't have have to close it, just minimize. What a freakin pain. No go, back to 8.65.

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Tadeusz said:
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions.
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Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? What makes you think it's a feature? Ever heard about "bugs in beta versions"? You know, when the software doesn't do what it's intended to do?
Did you even consider that maybe, just maybe, it's just a bug?
We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders.
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What makes you think that anyone from Opera even reads this forum? They have their own forums for this kind of stuff.
Also, pointless whining like yours isn't going to help anyone.

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EyeAmRubber said:
Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? What makes you think it's a feature? Ever heard about "bugs in beta versions"? You know, when the software doesn't do what it's intended to do?
Did you even consider that maybe, just maybe, it's just a bug?
What makes you think that anyone from Opera even reads this forum? They have their own forums for this kind of stuff.
Also, pointless whining like yours isn't going to help anyone.
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I do not care if Opera comes here and reads our posts or not. It is their problem. We here are helping developers by testing their products mostly in beta versions. I am not going to verify Opera builders intentions. I just found Opera beta or pre-beta version, and as always we do here, stareted to test and give report. My report about 14xx versions was that it suddenly started to turn the screen to prtrait. Me and others were reported that several times. In next versions, this bug (obviously a bug) was still there, so when they officialy released their beta, I gave report that it is still there (the bug). I, again do not care if they are goping to listen to that or not. This is thair problem, as I have said. Contrary, I do care if somebody comes here and offends me, only because I do what we are suposed to do here. This is a forum for developers and their testers, here. If software is shown here, we will test and give report. Sometimes in big words if the bug is repeated in several versions. If you do not like it then go to hel from this forum, and stop offend people here.
Got it?