GSM Radio: 1.01.25.16
Protocol version: 52.29.25.12H
CE version: 1.65.502.3
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.2.3 Build 19965
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a lil confued is the rom for the unreleased raphel? or can it be used on at^&t tilt 8925
iboogey99 said:
a lil confued is the rom for the unreleased raphel? or can it be used on at^&t tilt 8925
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NO do not use this on a Tilt.
This just confirmed that AT&T is getting the Touch PRO!!!
hell yes my next device right here
Yes yes yes. I will certainly be getting this phone. I can't believe that I almost messed up and used my upgrade to get the iphone. I'm glad I waited a little bit. Now lets see how long At&t makes us wait.
doctajay said:
Yes yes yes. I will certainly be getting this phone. I can't believe that I almost messed up and used my upgrade to get the iphone. I'm glad I waited a little bit. Now lets see how long At&t makes us wait.
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from what i understand it will be soon....of course this is at&t and soon to them is 6 months from now....lol
incognitho said:
GSM Radio: 1.01.25.16
Protocol version: 52.29.25.12H
CE version: 1.65.502.3
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.2.3 Build 19965
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woohoo we all love incognitho!!
could i....
AllTheWay said:
NO do not use this on a Tilt.
This just confirmed that AT&T is getting the Touch PRO!!!
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if i bought a EU Touch Pro/Raphael could i upgrade to this rom and be able to use US ATT 3g or only 2g voice/data? is there any reason i should wait for the US version of this phone or would it be the same to get EU and use it in the US???
ez345 said:
if i bought a EU Touch Pro/Raphael could i upgrade to this rom and be able to use US ATT 3g or only 2g voice/data? is there any reason i should wait for the US version of this phone or would it be the same to get EU and use it in the US???
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My understanding is that the EU Touch Pro version that is available right now does not work on the AT&T network due to only being a triband phone w/o the AT&T frequencies, so you'll need to wait for a US version. I maybe be incorrect but that was what i had gathered in the chatter.
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My understanding is that the EU Touch Pro version that is available right now does not work on the AT&T network due to only being a triband phone w/o the AT&T frequencies, so you'll need to wait for a US version. I maybe be incorrect but that was what i had gathered in the chatter.
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I believe you're correct, but expansys US has it coming out on August 4th and just has stats pasted from HTC's website (saying its quad band). And knowing ATT this will NOT come out for 6 more months after the HTC release...just look at when the TyTN II came out and then when the Tilt eventually came out...it was about 2 months
Doug2873 said:
I believe you're correct, but expansys US has it coming out on August 4th and just has stats pasted from HTC's website (saying its quad band). And knowing ATT this will NOT come out for 6 more months after the HTC release...just look at when the TyTN II came out and then when the Tilt eventually came out...it was about 6-7 months
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Actually, it was only around a month or so. The TyTn II's shipped in late August and the Tilts were shipping in the first weeks of October.
good news for the peeps over in north america on at&t. buy your raphael from an oversees seller and flash this ROM or just the radio to get your 850MHz band.
why wait till end of the year to get it directly from at&t
How do we know this isn't just a renamed version of this...
http://www.asia.htc.com/HTC_HKEN/
robak03 said:
How do we know this isn't just a renamed version of this...
http://www.asia.htc.com/HTC_HKEN/
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because incognito is a reliable source (dont look at the post counts) if you know what i mean
So Your Saying....
jasjamming said:
good news for the peeps over in north america on at&t. buy your raphael from an oversees seller and flash this ROM or just the radio to get your 850MHz band.
why wait till end of the year to get it directly from at&t
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so its true?? we could just flash an EU raphael with this rom and us it as a US version....if so very good news indeed...just hoping there is someway to unlock 3g for US unless the rom includes that as well
ez345 said:
so its true?? we could just flash an EU raphael with this rom and us it as a US version....if so very good news indeed...just hoping there is someway to unlock 3g for US unless the rom includes that as well
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all raphael hardware regardless of operator or OEM is identical. its just software which limits its features as in this case its radio bands.
flashing the at&t radio on an EU or AUS or CHINESE Raphael will enable the at&t 850MHZ band.
waiting for black friday
I just hope that AT&T release the Touch Pro before black friday , I have 4 lines and 3 are ready for an upgrade since Feb.....
but att hasnt utilized the 850 band yet am i correct? only 1900 as far as i know
I was under the impression that the signal is stronger because they use the 850 band.
850 is GSM
1900 is UMTS (HSDPA/HSUPA) 3g
I don't believe that att is using 850 for UMTS.
It would be better if someone (looking at you incognito ) could let us in on the radio chipset. Maybe we could research what it's capabilities are?
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If anyone can get my Pro to work on T-Mobiles 3G network. I heard they are going to carry it and that hardware is the same its just the software....
Shoot me if its not passable but im trying :/
Wow, that's practically a 3rd of the devices price :O. I'm sure people would help you without offering the money. I would wait for the cooked ROMs as the might just fix the issue.
O yea
EDIT: You have to show me how to instal it and give me everything I need to instal it
thanks
GlobalM3 said:
O yea
EDIT: You have to show me how to instal it and give me everything I need to instal it
thanks
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I assume you're kidding right? As the Raphael forum is brand spankin' new I'll throw you a bone and guide you to ROM upgrading guide for the Kaiser from the Kaiser's Wiki. Upgrading the Raphael's ROM will be similar. BTW, seems nobody knows for sure if the UK version of the Raph has the necessary hardware for UMTS with AT&T or T-mobile.
bersca said:
I assume you're kidding right? As the Raphael forum is brand spankin' new I'll throw you a bone and guide you to ROM upgrading guide for the Kaiser from the Kaiser's Wiki. Upgrading the Raphael's ROM will be similar. BTW, seems nobody knows for sure if the UK version of the Raph has the necessary hardware for UMTS with AT&T or T-mobile.
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Thanks for the help.
Im just lazy to look at all the numbers and roms and threads on if and what works. I just want the radio for 3g T-Mobile to work. It be nice to have some other cool features as well but I really need 3G
thanks again
Yea, as i stated earlier, you have to try out the different ROMs and have the exact settings to get it to work.
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Yea, as i stated earlier, you have to try out the different ROMs and have the exact settings to get it to work.
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I heard that it can brick your phone.....
thanks again
If you follow the instructions, you should be good to go. Just read and once you feel comfortable, do it.
See theproblem is its all over whelming to me.
I don't know if its 1700 or 2100 the phone has to have to work on tmo. And I also seen that the diamond shows 1700/1900 and 2100 umts but they are not active when someone selects it....
Kind of understand my position?
Tnx again for your reply
GlobalM3 - why don't you call TMO support phone number and ask which band to choose for 3G? Probably you also need to try to activate hsupa/hsdpa.
p.s.: anyway you should flash your phone to newest rom and radio available, possibly the fix is already in it...
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See theproblem is its all over whelming to me.
I don't know if its 1700 or 2100 the phone has to have to work on tmo. And I also seen that the diamond shows 1700/1900 and 2100 umts but they are not active when someone selects it....
Kind of understand my position?
Tnx again for your reply
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t-mobile uses umts 2100
it not being active can have many origins
u need a abbo for it , a login, server ip etc
best to check with the customerservice or on the t-mobile website
you can register your account there and the phone
once on the customerpage of your account you can choose to have the settings send by sms
this will auto-configure the proper settings
Guys I am referring to T-Mobile USA 3G not Euro T-Mobile.
THanks for the shot at help
GlobalM3 said:
Guys I am referring to T-Mobile USA 3G not Euro T-Mobile.
THanks for the shot at help
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T-mobile usa uses 1700 and 2100.
GlobalM3 said:
I heard that it can brick your phone.....
thanks again
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Well that's propably why you'll be seeing Rom's being singed to flash to Oli's SPL just like in th Diamond forum's
The main setup is safety.
Bricked devices being sent back to the Provider or HTC is in no one's Best interest (Excuse me if i used the incorrect phrasing here, but you know what i'm trying to say)
Heck i think if you donated 75 to XDA and 75 to anyone willing to help you flash and get the right tools there'd be plenty of users willing to help you out.
I think the most posters above are only trying to save you some money.
You'll need to flash a radio ROM from the AT&T ROMs. In fact, if you can, flashing the whole AT&T ROM may help.
I know AT&T and T-Mo USA have different bands, but the AT&T ROM is the only US ROM/Radio ROM, and so is the most likely to work (unless the devices ship with a radio ROM that covers all bands).
ROM flashing may come with a risk of bricking. Nothing is risk free, but the official RUUs are likely to work best (if the device is not CID locked that is)
Then I will donate some of that money to XDA
I wonder if att has the right band... but why would it :./
Thanks
It may not have the right band, but it's the only radio ROM that'll work at all on US 3G networks.
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It may not have the right band, but it's the only radio ROM that'll work at all on US 3G networks.
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So you are saying that the radio supports it but no the software?
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So you are saying that the radio supports it but no the software?
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I don't know. But without the software, there's no change the hardware will work fully.
As stated, T-mo US uses UMTS 1700 and 2100. The problem is T-mo is separating HSPA between the two bands: 1700 for the uplink (HSUPA) and 2100 for the downlink (HSDPA). I may be wrong, but I don't think any other carrier does this (AT&T 3G uses 850/1900, but both links are available in both bands).
It is unclear at this time whether any of the radio chipsets in current Europe/Asia 3G handsets can support this split implementation, henceforth referred to as AWS (even though AWS is a bit of a misnomer, since AWS refers only to the US 1700/2100 frequencies and not necessarily the split-HSPA configuration T-mo US is using).
We will probably have to wait until T-mo/HTC puts out an AWS-capable device and dissect it to see which radio chipset it uses. If the Pro has the same chipset, there might be a good chance of flashing the radio to support T-mo 3G.
Further Reading:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/aws/index.php?p=i
http://www.breakitdownblog.com/3g-iphone-may-not-work-on-t-mobile-3g-network/
So I purchased a UK unlocked Touch Pro and had it shipped to the US. While I hope there will be an ATT radio rom flash in the future, I have a quick question for the veterans out there:
On the Touch Pro, under the Phone Band settings, you can select "GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"
When I do this all I receive is Edge on ATT, but aren't the UMTS bands correct already for ATT under this setting?
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So I purchased a UK unlocked Touch Pro and had it shipped to the US. While I hope there will be an ATT radio rom flash in the future, I have a quick question for the veterans out there:
On the Touch Pro, under the Phone Band settings, you can select "GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"
When I do this all I receive is Edge on ATT, but aren't the UMTS bands correct already for ATT under this setting?
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There are several threads on this topic already...Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410945
Thanks, I appreciate the reply, but I had read through that thread. I understand that the device is likely in need of a reprogrammed ROM to activate the hardware because at the end of the day it is not working. My question is specifically if the phone setting is allowing me to select the two ATT UMTS bands already why wouldn't I get 3G speed?
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Thanks, I appreciate the reply, but I had read through that thread. I understand that the device is likely in need of a reprogrammed ROM to activate the hardware because at the end of the day it is not working. My question is specifically if the phone setting is allowing me to select the two ATT UMTS bands already why wouldn't I get 3G speed?
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I have the UK version of the phone as well and I have the same issue. I have selected the right bands for both UMTS and GSM but all I get is EDGE. The reason for this is either a hardware limitation (no radio antenna to support 850/1900 UMTS bands (let's hope not) or the factory installed radio firmware does not include those bands or all those da#@ iPhone 3G users are hogging all the UMTS bandwidth . Hopefully all we need is to flash a new radio or ROM to unlock these bands. Just because you can select this band in phone settings does not mean the radio or hardware support it.
I guess I am crossing my fingers along with you . Thanks!
See my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418000
Even though this is for T-Mobile im sure if tmo gets unlocked att will to. Watch that and post there if someone cracks it they will post on that thread.
I have a question for the guys only getting EDGE when they have the correct bands set.......do you have a 3G enabled SIM card? (aka a USIM, some networks require you use one for the 3G to be utilised correctly).
Hi, in answer to your question, yes I have a 3G compatible SIM. I literally plucked it out of my TyTN 2/ TILT and put it in to the Touch Pro. The Touch Pro automatically found the ATT network, and when I went in to check bands I realized that there was an option for the US UMTS bands. I am guessing that others have been right when they have stated that just because there is a menu option it doesn't mean the radios are properly enabled.
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Hi, in answer to your question, yes I have a 3G compatible SIM. I literally plucked it out of my TyTN 2/ TILT and put it in to the Touch Pro. The Touch Pro automatically found the ATT network, and when I went in to check bands I realized that there was an option for the US UMTS bands. I am guessing that others have been right when they have stated that just because there is a menu option it doesn't mean the radios are properly enabled.
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So currently you are using a HTC branded Raphael? Could you post your ROM/Radio details? (device info in settings/system) Also your ROM build (settings/system->about)?
mrvanx said:
So currently you are using a HTC branded Raphael? Could you post your ROM/Radio details? (device info in settings/system) Also your ROM build (settings/system->about)?
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I have a 3G enabled SIM, been using it with the Kaiser for the past year with good 3G reception. I now have the HTC branded Raph (UK version) with no 3G reception, only EDGE. Here's the info on my ROM/Radio:
ROM: 1.90.405.1 WWE (8/1/08)
Build: 19965.1.2.3
Radio: 1.02.25.19
OK so it seems the only radios actually in these Raphaels at the moment are all 1.02.25.19, once we have a decent way to flash a different radio stack to it we can see if it makes any difference both in the bands available and some of the reception issues we are seeing so far.
I'm not an expert in this area at all, far from it, but but was reading Black's post about his AT&T model and he has 1.01.25.16. Is this what you're going to flash it to once the HardSPL is completed given that you know his radio supports AT&T 3G?
I'm trying to keep up...
Has anybody heard an ETA for Hardspl? I know they where testing it. But any rumors on a timeframe?
My new UK Touch Pro (radio ver 1.02.25.19) is exhibiting this same behavior on AT&T... I have tried all combinations of those dropdowns under phone options without any luck. It does seem very strange that HTC put the US 3G bands in the band dropdown, but included radio software that doesn't support it...
... Why would HTC bother removing hardware supported bands in the software?
shaunco said:
My new UK Touch Pro (radio ver 1.02.25.19) is exhibiting this same behavior on AT&T... I have tried all combinations of those dropdowns under phone options without any luck. It does seem very strange that HTC put the US 3G bands in the band dropdown, but included radio software that doesn't support it...
... Why would HTC bother removing hardware supported bands in the software?
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Because they couldn't get it working well enough in time for the release date, I guess. Similar to what appears to have been the case with the Diamond. The US isn't their main concern at the moment, so delaying a US-compatible version for now in or der to get it to the rest of the world on time.
Either that or it's deliberate act to slow down the grey imports until they do a proper US release in hand with the local carriers.
If AT&T doesn't want to subsidize the Pro/Diamond, HTC doesn't really have to worry about putting in 1900 support. And honestly, AT&T is too busy with the iPhone 3G to care about HTC.
On the other hand, I'm sure HTC is very interested in getting in on T-mo 3G (1700/2100). By downplaying 1900 (which is being eaten up by the iPhone, anyway), HTC can gear up for the fresh 1700/2100 band. Paired with Android, HTC could potentially gain a big chunk of US 3G networks.
I'm a touch pro user in Canada on the Rogers network. I too hope that HTC releases a radio that allows 3g network access. I don't think its a hardware limitation because it wouldn't really make sense to make two versions of the same phone just to disable parts of the radio.
I disagree with the statement that AT&T is too busy with the iPhone 3G to care about the Touch Pro. The fact is that the target audience for the two phones are entirely different and that a considerable amount of AT&T corporate customers still require their employees to use PPC based phones (even if the iPhone 3G supports email push).
Corporate standards don't usually move as quickly as they should, so of course AT&T is interested in extracting more money from customers that purchased a Tilt over the past 8 months and want to upgrade, but are not allowed to use an iPhone.
If HTC removed support because they were unable to get the software functioning properly, I can live with that. EDGE for a few months while HTC readies a new radio software package is fine... EDGE while HTC readies new hardware is not.
fhsieh said:
If AT&T doesn't want to subsidize the Pro/Diamond, HTC doesn't really have to worry about putting in 1900 support. And honestly, AT&T is too busy with the iPhone 3G to care about HTC.
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If AT&T weren't interesting in pushing the Touch Pro, HTC wouldn't have went to the trouble and expense of making a specific hardware revision (PTT button) for them. That's not something HTC are gonna do just for the hell of it on a quiet Sunday afternoon.
Maybe I didn't read the thread well enough but did you try and flash the AT&T ROM that was posted? Maybe that might work!
If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
evilxhwnd said:
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
minogue said:
Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
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you could but it cant be the vodafone one as that has 192mb ram like the G1, it would have to be the full HTC one
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If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
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If you buy from T-mobile in UK, it should work in the US. I was told they use the same 1700/2100 bands that we do. Only Hero 100 has the 1700 band built in, so the regular Hero will not work for US 3G.
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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What's sad is that I would rather use the Hero, relying on EDGE and Wi-Fi than to resort to using the iPhone... LOL
rhedgehog said:
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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That's correct...... about UK networks. no 1700.
T-mobile is getting the Hero next year so will it go to AT&T or other operators first?
To the OP... the Magic that you are getting off ebay.... well that will be the same thing.... 3G won't work in the US unless you wait till Sept./Oct. when T-Mo US releases it.
I don't care much for 3G, it's a battery killer and I'm usually near wifi.
EDGE ftw!
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
jim_0068 said:
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
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That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
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Wouldn't there be an unlocked US version when it's released here?
sorry
rhedgehog said:
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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So, since I was misinformed by T-Mo, I have a question of my own:
Will you be able to add the 1700 band with a software update, or does that require a hardware update through the mfg?
T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
angr1112 said:
T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
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So then T-Mobile would have both the Hero and the nearly feature-identical Magic at the same time? As much as I would have wished T-Mo to carry the Hero (very), the FCC passed the Hero with the AT&T 3G bands anyway.
jim_0068 said:
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
zambezy said:
so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
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You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
evilxhwnd said:
You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
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That's exactly what I was going to recommend, its $500 cad and $20 to unlock it. You just need someone from Canada to buy and ship it.
I have had the g1 for some time now and its gettin pretty rough around the edges. I was wondering if it was possible to get a Hero in the U.S. and what service it would work under? thanks !
it would work under any GSM Carrier in the US! However 3G will not work on any carrier just edge...Have you tried ebay, ill sell you mine if you want! One week old.
you can buy it off expansys usa
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=184575
however as you can see under the description it says "US 3G Data: No"
AT&T 3g
Looking into upgrading my at&t 8525 tytn which is due for an upgrade (close to getting an iphone 3gs 'til I found HERO). Any update or news on another release that would work in 3g?
I've spent hours searching ebay, amazon, expansys, etc. all of them only run HSDPA/UMTS 900 2100.
Is there an app to add 1900 for it to run on AT&T 3g or is that a ROM or hardware issue?
Thanks in advance.
mc7
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Looking into upgrading my at&t 8525 tytn which is due for an upgrade (close to getting an iphone 3gs 'til I found HERO). Any update or news on another release that would work in 3g?
I've spent hours searching ebay, amazon, expansys, etc. all of them only run HSDPA/UMTS 900 2100.
Is there an app to add 1900 for it to run on AT&T 3g or is that a ROM or hardware issue?
Thanks in advance.
mc7
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You can't magically add 1900 to it, it's a hardware thing. The Euro versions have 2100, so the best you're going to get is EDGE on AT&T or T-Mo USA. You'd think that the UNLOCKED model would be at least 1900/2100 HSDPA or something!!!
The Sprint-bound CDMA version is..well...CDMA, so not compatible with AT&T as well.
man, that sucks. is att usa the only country using 1900? that's another sucky one
minicoop7 said:
man, that sucks. is att usa the only country using 1900? that's another sucky one
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Nope Rogers/Fido in Canada the only GSM provider here has the same Frequencies as AT&T.
just baught a unlock hero today, and i love it... you dont need 3g... =]
I see this phone isn't getting released in the UK/EU first, which is..... different!
I would like to know if there are plans to release this device or a similar HTC device anytime this year in the UK/EU region.
I hope HTC it will be available for sale before the beginning of December
I would rather have had the Droid DNA/J Butterfly instead of the One X+ in the UK.
You would think that with HTC's recent financial results, that they would be looking to release this highly anticipated device in many markets as possible.
Does anyone know if the Droid DNA will work on GSM 3G HSPA networks? Obviously the LTE wont work.
I wonder if any of the Frequencies Vodafone or O2 are going to use are the same as the US ones? I do remember reading it somewhere, and I don't think they are the same.
vinokirk said:
I wonder if any of the Frequencies Vodafone or O2 are going to use are the same as the US ones? I do remember reading it somewhere, and I don't think they are the same.
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The problem is not the LTE, it is the basic network of the phone. The Verizon network is not compatible with any European network - they use a completely different system as the base which is not GSM compatible. Same reason the Nexus 4 "world" phone works pretty much everywhere except on their network.
Until HTC make a model with different radio chips (GSM standard) this phone will only be for Verizon and a couple of Japanese networks.
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The problem is not the LTE, it is the basic network of the phone. The Verizon network is not compatible with any European network - they use a completely different system as the base which is not GSM compatible. Same reason the Nexus 4 "world" phone works pretty much everywhere except on their network.
Until HTC make a model with different radio chips (GSM standard) this phone will only be for Verizon and a couple of Japanese networks.
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From Verizon's DNA specs list:
CDMA1x/EV-DO Rev A, LTE/DO Rx diversity
Global Network: GSM (850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz), UMTS (850MHz, 900MHz, 1900MHz, 2100MHz)
Since it has GSM, will it be possible to use in Europe or Australia?
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From Verizon's DNA specs list:
CDMA1x/EV-DO Rev A, LTE/DO Rx diversity
Global Network: GSM (850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz), UMTS (850MHz, 900MHz, 1900MHz, 2100MHz)
Since it has GSM, will it be possible to use in Europe or Australia?
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Yes.. It's just a matter of whether or not it is unlocked out of the box like the Rezound was (Limited at first before update). Or sim locked like previous droids.
nexus161 said:
The problem is not the LTE, it is the basic network of the phone. The Verizon network is not compatible with any European network - they use a completely different system as the base which is not GSM compatible. Same reason the Nexus 4 "world" phone works pretty much everywhere except on their network.
Until HTC make a model with different radio chips (GSM standard) this phone will only be for Verizon and a couple of Japanese networks.
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WRONG
Hallaisen said:
From Verizon's DNA specs list:
CDMA1x/EV-DO Rev A, LTE/DO Rx diversity
Global Network: GSM (850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz), UMTS (850MHz, 900MHz, 1900MHz, 2100MHz)
Since it has GSM, will it be possible to use in Europe or Australia?
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Thank you for posting this... I hate when people (read: nexus161) give outdated facts based on the way the tech ran several years ago... vzw has released several devices with a quad band antenna in the past several years. The gsm bands listed are frequencies that all gsm providers currently use at least one of so the answer to the original question is yes, in theory. I'm assuming the international bands are unlocked so there should be no issue using it with a gsm provider, however I'm not sure how vzw has played this in the past so I can't speak to how this will work in practice. My guess though? Similar to the rezound. Locked for first 6-8 months, then an unlock will roll out in an update later.
That's great, so it will work over here. I'm not bothered about 4G yet as its only in a few cities.
I'm new to this whole Verizon CDMA unlocked thing. Can I use a US T-mobile SIM card and pop it into the SIM slot and it will work? What size SIM does it use? Micro?
Do you think it will be possible to buy a Us handset and unlock it?
Will it be 4G enabled?
I just spoke with three different verizon customer service representatives and they all said the phone is locked to Verizon. Two of them said Verizon never unlocks their phones and the last one said devices can be unlocked if you have 90 days of good payment history. Is there a different way to unlock android devices other than having carriers do it for you?
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I just spoke with three different verizon customer service representatives and they all said the phone is locked to Verizon. Two of them said Verizon never unlocks their phones and the last one said devices can be unlocked if you have 90 days of good payment history. Is there a different way to unlock android devices other than having carriers do it for you?
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Sometimes... I think you need to have S-Off though... I could be wrong though.
Just because it has GSM support in the radio, doesn't necessarily mean it has a SIM slot! If I'm not mistaken, the Photon Q or whatever the Moto slider for Sprint is has a pentaband radio but no SIM slot...
Anyone got details on that?
That phone have sim slot
That phone have SIM slot, please watch any "hands on" review and you will see that.
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Just because it has GSM support in the radio, doesn't necessarily mean it has a SIM slot! If I'm not mistaken, the Photon Q or whatever the Moto slider for Sprint is has a pentaband radio but no SIM slot...
Anyone got details on that?
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It has a SIM card slot due to LTE connectivity.
HTC DROID DNA Verizon is SIM Unlocked
Phil from androidcentral was the one who give us that good news:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-droid-dna/225051-droid-dna-sim-unlocked-means-works-t.html
there is settings, too
beberobu said:
Phil from androidcentral was the one who give us that good news:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-droid-dna/225051-droid-dna-sim-unlocked-means-works-t.html
there is settings, too
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Great news. Hopefully I will be able to order the device soon from a US eBay seller. That is unless HTC actually announce a UK/EU release before then. But that seems extremely unlikely.
vinokirk said:
I see this phone isn't getting released in the UK/EU first, which is..... different!
I would like to know if there are plans to release this device or a similar HTC device anytime this year in the UK/EU region.
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Hopefully HTC will release it as the Deluxe, internationally, not just US/JP
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/htc-deluxe-press-render-reportedly-leaks-spreads-droid-dna/