I have over 3000 contacts and once they are on my 6800 things tend to slow down a bit Is there anyway to have them stored on the SD card instead of in main memory? I've searched and couldn't find an answer.
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Oh, you want to move them from the device to the SD card and be able to access them from there? I'm not sure about that. But wouldn't that make it slower?
Yes.It may be slower accessing them but my device itself slows way down for everything with that many contacts in the device memory.
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Yes.It may be slower accessing them but my device itself slows way down for everything with that many contacts in the device memory.
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Well if its going to be even slower on the SD card, why move it?
I dont think you can store PIM info on the SD card using windows mobile. There may be 3rd party pim software that will allow you to do that.
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Yes.It may be slower accessing them but my device itself slows way down for everything with that many contacts in the device memory.
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Careful -- I think that you may be conflating RAM with ROM. That database is stored on your device's ROM -- not its RAM. The read/write rates of such memory is faster than may be achieved from a storage card.
Your issues are unrelated to where the PIM is stored. Rather they are due to either just the size of such an index or possibly the third party contact app (or any other app that is running and refers to your PIM) that you may be using and keep active.
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I have over 3000 contacts and once they are on my 6800 things tend to slow down a bit Is there anyway to have them stored on the SD card instead of in main memory? I've searched and couldn't find an answer.
Thanks
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3000 contacts is crazy.. thats like having the yellow pages. i guess im a loser. Does it take a long time to sync with active sync after upgrading the rom
It takes about 15 minutes the first time to update but after that it's fine. I'm not worried about the speed of the contacts being searched etc. just how much room it takes up on the device slows the device down.
It's a work phone so I keep all of my contacts on there. When Clients and Realtors call me and I know who they are etc and have all of their info right there is really impresses them and saves me time.
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...my device itself slows way down for everything with that many contacts in the device memory.
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I'm not worried about the speed of the contacts being searched etc. just how much room it takes up on the device slows the device down.
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Again, the PIM is stored in ROM but you still appear to be conflating RAM with ROM. Yes, the ROM is 'memory', but 'memory' just as a hard drive on your PC is for storing your Outlook database. The existence of items stored in such 'memory' do not slow you device down.
Again, your problem is not the storage location of such a large PIM but either its shear index size and/or a running background app that keeps referring to it.
How much free RAM do you have a few minutes after a soft-reset? What processes do you have running and do any of them use an extraordinary amount of RAM?
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It takes about 15 minutes the first time to update but after that it's fine. I'm not worried about the speed of the contacts being searched etc. just how much room it takes up on the device slows the device down.
It's a work phone so I keep all of my contacts on there. When Clients and Realtors call me and I know who they are etc and have all of their info right there is really impresses them and saves me time.
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Like Keystone is saying, your confusing the two types of memory. ROM is just like a harddrive - its where you store all your data. RAM is what the phone uses as programs are run.
Whether you have 1 contact or 3000 contacts, it doesnt matter. Your device will run as fast (or slow), all things being equal
If you are finding that your device is slowing down as you add more contacts, my guess would be that its some 3rd party app you have that is making reference to all them, hence using up more RAM
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Hey guys,
My phone was quite fast and responsive when i first bought it. But now aftre 9 months of use i have found that it has slowed down. I shifted from GB to ICS but that hasnt made any difference. The load up of contacts takes especially long.
I was woundering if like in computers we defragment the HD do we need to do the same on phones ocasionaly.
Please let me know if there are apps for this or any solutions.
If u do this u can break ur phone
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if your device has become slow, you might want to think about performing a wipe / factory reset every once in a while. also, delete contents from your sd card, apart from music, videos and pictures.
defragmenting from a pc won't help, but also won't break your phone.
The filesystem that Android uses doesn't fragment like Windows' one does, therefore defragmentation isn't possible. You could try clearing up some space though. E.g. deleting apps, music, photos etc.
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The filesystem that Android uses doesn't fragment like Windows' one does, therefore defragmentation isn't possible. You could try clearing up some space though. E.g. deleting apps, music, photos etc.
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only half true. sure, the filesystem on the system partitions can not be defragmented, but they are not directly accessible from a windows pc anyways, i believe the op was talking about /sdcard/ and the external_sd/ or /emmc/, which usually are formatted in fat32 and can be defragmented. if he copied several things simultaneously, it might even be fragmented.
Check the free space available on the internal sdcard - my Wife's GSII had a similar problem where it would almost grind to a halt. It turned out the sdcard was full, and transferring the photos/videos off the 'phone returned performance to normal.
Thnks all. I think they are good suggetions and i will try them out and let you know the result.
Greetings.
I've had the pleasure to deal with many android devices, ranging from the very first EVO 4G to a rooted nook and KFire, galaxy tab, and my current GAlaxy S4. Nonetheless I've noted a pattern that hopefully one or several of you can help with...
I usually have SD cards that are larger than the native storage of most of my devices however.... I always run out of room for apps. I wouldn't say I install everything I See but I do install apps I need for work (medical apps) which for the most part don't exactly take much space but some are known to take 300-1Gb at most. Anyway, my devices always seem to fill the native storage while the SD Card remains fairly unused. Here is an example of my phone.
So my main gripe/issue is: My SD cards are always fairly empty and only have contents I've actively copied over to them from my desktop or notebook. I am under the impression that most programs do not install the data to SD Card and use the native storage instead. Is there anyway this can change? Any tips to get more space (besides backing up pictures and deleting those, 700+ mb!).
Thank you in advance!
good question.
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Greetings.
I've had the pleasure to deal with many android devices, ranging from the very first EVO 4G to a rooted nook and KFire, galaxy tab, and my current GAlaxy S4. Nonetheless I've noted a pattern that hopefully one or several of you can help with...
I usually have SD cards that are larger than the native storage of most of my devices however.... I always run out of room for apps. I wouldn't say I install everything I See but I do install apps I need for work (medical apps) which for the most part don't exactly take much space but some are known to take 300-1Gb at most. Anyway, my devices always seem to fill the native storage while the SD Card remains fairly unused. Here is an example of my phone.
So my main gripe/issue is: My SD cards are always fairly empty and only have contents I've actively copied over to them from my desktop or notebook. I am under the impression that most programs do not install the data to SD Card and use the native storage instead. Is there anyway this can change? Any tips to get more space (besides backing up pictures and deleting those, 700+ mb!).
Thank you in advance!
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I am in agreement with you, as I have progressed thru numerous phones too. After going the route of the first moto linux phone and then jumping aboard the Android system when the first G1 came out from HTC and have always had similiar problems.
There original solution was special purpose apps that would allow you to backup your apps to SD card, then other apps came along to allow you to actually run apps from SD Card but seems that not all apps can actually be accessed from SD card. I havent kept up with it all like I first did and have become rather lazy and carefree or even sloppy with how I maintain my devices files and apps organized. Much now to an overwhelming large mess of old devices and storage media not to mention profiles tied to email google accounts. Its difficult to even start over as every device wants to have a profile to sync to. It could entirely be possible to top out the memory on a brand new device after snyc to one or two profiles.
Also it seems for the average consumer that has a unrooted device it is impossible to thoroughly clean or interrogate the internal device memory . seems like the revisions of the android operating system makes file management of internal memory even more difficult to manage.
I didnt want to get too carried away but I totally feel frustrated as you do, sorry I dont have a solid technical answer to resolve your problem. I am asked all the time to fix my girlfriends tablet and I cant explain it to her where all her memory has disapeared to after a few factory resets. Doesnt seem to matter, if you load alot of apps to just give them a spin for a test ride. Even if you delete or move them to store on sd card . It seems alot of junk files still seem to reside in the internal storage and eventually will eat away at the memory until it gets to the point of inoperability. App managers can make the situatin worse by creating even more orphaned files and junk too. All this stuff is not accessible to view and review and manage.
The only answer is to have a rooted device and the expertise to properly manage this inaccessible memory?
Is there a decent file management that a nonpower consumer can rely upon?
Hello all.
After recently obtaining root (see thread asus padfone x mini rooting device) I thought we could all begin to catalog what we have changed. Any app that required root and has proven useful and effective for you, please share it here and I will begin to aggregate all of the useful tools here in this top post.
Some stuff you might want to try after rooting
(Copied from my other thread)
A couple things I did with my phone after root.
1. Froze all bloatware. I might remove it later but I felt safer just freezing it with Titanium Backup in case I find out later it screwed something up.
2. Installed a CPU tweaker like 3C ToolBox. If I choose any governor besides interactive, the phone crashes, freezes and just won't play nice. But I have it set to on boot interactive, 1.33GHz - 1.6GHz and no problem. Phone is much faster now. Also for screen off I have ondemand 800MHZ - 933MHz with 1 CPU online, 2nd free and 3rd offline. Ondemand seems to work fine in screen off maybe because I am not accessing apps on the fly. Before root this phone would suck away the battery life and I would only be able to get 6 hours out of it. I assume it was because all the CPU's were online running high and lows and draining the battery as well as the bloatware just lingering in the background sucking up precious resources. I was right. Once I forced the screen off settings my battery now last 3-4x longer. I can have a full charge in the morning and it still be at about 50% - 60% late at night with the occasional checking emails, checking on a game or two and surfing the web. Awesome!
3. On a more important note, I HATED the AT&T boot up sound. Dun dun dun dun snap. Awful! At night it wakes my wife up when I am in bed needing to reboot my phone. I had to smother it with a pillow to muffle the sound. There was no way to change or quiet it. It was a forced noise on a forced volume. However, I used X-Plore, gave it root and navigated to /system/media/audio and renamed powerup.wav to powerup.wav.bak. No more annoying AT&T sound at bootup! Whoohoo! It is quiet as can be. Love it.
4. I also hated the low battery noise. So I went to /system/media/audio/ui and renamed lowbattery.ogg to lowbattery.ogg.bak and now no more annoying low battery notifications. Only the popup window notifies me. Yay! Progress!
5. Installed SD Fix! Finally! My 3rd party apps can now write to my external micro SD card. This allows for installing apps to SD, moving their data and just overall more usage of the micro sd card that was stupidly blocked when KitKat 4.2.2 was released. I don't care if it has more security risks. Unless they plan on making 64GB+ a standard for all phones for built-in memory, I need my micro sd card to work as intended.
This phone is 100% better because of root. Happy rooting!
How in the world do you move apps to the sd card? I did the SD fix but there is no option to move apps to sd.
Moving apps to SD
pjohnson87 said:
How in the world do you move apps to the sd card? I did the SD fix but there is no option to move apps to sd.
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I should of been more clear on moving apps to sd. Sorry about that. The operating system doesn't support apps to sd currently at least to my knowledge. Asus will have to come out with an update to their own OS or maybe someone here can do it. However, using the sd fix brings down one more obstacle to getting apps to sd working. Or, just wait for a custom rom.
NEED ROOT!
How was root obtained?!
JDubbed said:
(Copied from my other thread)
A couple things I did with my phone after root.
1. Froze all bloatware. I might remove it later but I felt safer just freezing it with Titanium Backup in case I find out later it screwed something up.
2. Installed a CPU tweaker like 3C ToolBox. If I choose any governor besides interactive, the phone crashes, freezes and just won't play nice. But I have it set to on boot interactive, 1.33GHz - 1.6GHz and no problem. Phone is much faster now. Also for screen off I have ondemand 800MHZ - 933MHz with 1 CPU online, 2nd free and 3rd offline. Ondemand seems to work fine in screen off maybe because I am not accessing apps on the fly. Before root this phone would suck away the battery life and I would only be able to get 6 hours out of it. I assume it was because all the CPU's were online running high and lows and draining the battery as well as the bloatware just lingering in the background sucking up precious resources. I was right. Once I forced the screen off settings my battery now last 3-4x longer. I can have a full charge in the morning and it still be at about 50% - 60% late at night with the occasional checking emails, checking on a game or two and surfing the web. Awesome!
3. On a more important note, I HATED the AT&T boot up sound. Dun dun dun dun snap. Awful! At night it wakes my wife up when I am in bed needing to reboot my phone. I had to smother it with a pillow to muffle the sound. There was no way to change or quiet it. It was a forced noise on a forced volume. However, I used X-Plore, gave it root and navigated to /system/media/audio and renamed powerup.wav to powerup.wav.bak. No more annoying AT&T sound at bootup! Whoohoo! It is quiet as can be. Love it.
4. I also hated the low battery noise. So I went to /system/media/audio/ui and renamed lowbattery.ogg to lowbattery.ogg.bak and now no more annoying low battery notifications. Only the popup window notifies me. Yay! Progress!
5. Installed SD Fix! Finally! My 3rd party apps can now write to my external micro SD card. This allows for installing apps to SD, moving their data and just overall more usage of the micro sd card that was stupidly blocked when KitKat 4.2.2 was released. I don't care if it has more security risks. Unless they plan on making 64GB+ a standard for all phones for built-in memory, I need my micro sd card to work as intended.
This phone is 100% better because of root. Happy rooting!
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The phone is dual core so why set three cpu's
the phone is set from factory with interactive 1.6GHz max but it's low is like 200 I checked it out with pimp my rom but didn't change or keep any tweets as my battery life is fine
SDK fix is important you can't even delete files off SDK without it I believe bloat is what causes battery drain trilla the rooting thread top post works
My mod list
Ok, so I wanted to post a reply to this to list what I have done after root access was obtained.
1. I installed Titainum and removed most of the bloatware from AT&T, along with some of the random stuff I don't need.
2. I installed permissions denied to remove permissions from apps and games that don't need access to things like my contacts or network access.
3. Installed busy box and terminal emulator so I have some basic linux commands and can configure my iptables firewall. (on a side note I am still looking at how to install the "netfilter" kernel module to allow droidwall firewall and network logging)
4. Still working on enabling WiFi tether. ( I use Straight Talk, not AT&T )
5. Installed ES File Explorer and gave it root permissions.
6. This doesn't really require root but I added Owncloud for my cloud storage on my own server, Subsonic for music streaming on my own server, carddav for syncing contacts from my own server and configured my email from my own email server. I like to keep all of my information on my server rather then Google's servers, and I am so far completely disconnected from Google other then using their servers to get my apps I use.
Once I get #4 and #5 finished and all my apps I use installed I will be stripping everything "Google" related out of the device including all of google play's services, Gmail and any background services not needed. Since Google wants to use their services for tracking user data I don't feel the need to keep them...
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Since Google wants to use their services for tracking user data I don't feel the need to keep them...
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doesnt matter if you use google,microsoft/bing, or any other service, all of them track you no matter what you try to do. i just avoid putting anything detrimental to me on my phones. no credit card data, no ss numbers, etc. all else is basically public knowledge anyway
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Cognacentertainment said:
doesnt matter if you use google,microsoft/bing, or any other service, all of them track you no matter what you try to do. i just avoid putting anything detrimental to me on my phones. no credit card data, no ss numbers, etc. all else is basically public knowledge anyway
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Yes, all of the above invade our privacy which is why all of my email, cloud storage, and music is hosted on my own server at my house and secured with SSL encryption. I don't use microsoft, google or apple for my personal information, but I keep a gmail account for a junk mail account (not connected to my phone) and exchange for work. Also my phone is encrypted as well as my text messaging database (text secure). Now I know this does not fix all vulnerabilities but it sure does reduce them and make me feel better that my information is for the better part under my control. As far as credit card data, if I were to even consider putting that on my phone or even my SS number it would all be stored under an encrypted database.
I also do not use public hotspots since that would just open a whole other world of vulnerabilities.
JDubbed said:
I should of been more clear on moving apps to sd. Sorry about that. The operating system doesn't support apps to sd currently at least to my knowledge. Asus will have to come out with an update to their own OS or maybe someone here can do it. However, using the sd fix brings down one more obstacle to getting apps to sd working. Or, just wait for a custom rom.
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After I rooted my Mini X, I just re-partitioned my 64gb external micro sd into 3 parts. 50 gb as ntfs for regular storage, 10 gb as ext4 for link2sd app to create a link for moving apps to the sd. and the rest which was a little over 3 gb or so as swap space to help with the 1gb low ram using memory swap for root. I keep all of my important apps on the 8 gb internal phone storage... or 4gb and the rest of them go to the 10 gb reserved within the partition i created on the sd. as far as "memory swap for root" goes. It took some time to figure out how to use the swap partition, because the location /dev/block/mmcblk1p3 didn't exist. but after I rebooted everything worked as it should have. Now my mini x which is running net 10 can outrun the zenfone 5 on the antutu benchmark. There is a little glitch when you reboot, which is probably the sd mounting but after that everything runs much faster. Considering how crappy it ran from being stock. I almost took it back.
Still waiting for cwm and cyanogenmod to meet this phone. I hope this trick helped you I won't be around much online to make a step by step how to on this. Considering i am currently a laser technician and working 12 hour shifts at the moment. But to format the micro i used "full wipe" and to create partitions i used "AParted" by sylkat tools
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3. Installed busy box and terminal emulator so I have some basic linux commands and can configure my iptables firewall. (on a side note I am still looking at how to install the "netfilter" kernel module to allow droidwall firewall and network logging)
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I bought a Zenfone 5 and after rooting, I just discovered that the kernel does not support netfilter, so Droidwall cannot work !! :crying:
why Asus doesnt have this ? wish I had known earlier.
rht_sg said:
I bought a Zenfone 5 and after rooting, I just discovered that the kernel does not support netfilter, so Droidwall cannot work !! :crying:
why Asus doesnt have this ? wish I had known earlier.
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Yeah, I actually returned my Asus Padfone because I couldn't use netfilter. I needed it for network logging and Droidwall, so it was kinda a deal breaker... I ended up getting a Sony Xperia T2 unlocked and rooting it, so far everything I needed is working better then I would hoped with the Sony.
I wish you luck with your Zenfone.
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Hey all,
I'm new to the padfone x mini seeing that my note 2 finally said I give up.. But what has to happen to get a ROM oor this thing.. It seems to me that the padfone x mini has a decent amount of potential here!.. I am no developer and have never done so but I know my way around d a PC and I know my way around linux a bit. I would just like to know where to start for developing a ROM for this phone and my first actually... Any help or guidance in the proper direction is much appreciated.
Factory rom backup?
Did anyone do a backup? We're really going to need one.
I installed Root Booster which made my phone actually stable. It hasn't crashed since I installed it and paid for the high stability mode.
Removed a lot of the Google and AT&T apps. The GOOGLE app itself and the Play Music, Play Videos, Play Books, etc. were removed with the store intact and related services left alone.
Performance jumped up once I removed the "Google" app named essentially just that, "Google".
But most importantly, it is stable. Like when I installed Lollipop on the Padfone X regular, this one makes the tablet worth it and proves that AT&T destroyed yet another device with its idiocy. But I'm running this on T-Mobile since the device itself was unlocked when I got mine for $99.
Also, I reinstalled the Google Music, Video apps since you can but I wanted to remove the default version that comes preinstalled with the ROM. BUT make sure to use System app remover (ROOT) by Jumobile. If you uninstall too much, this lets you restore it right back. Just don't purge the recycle bin.
I love the SGP611, except it's low memory. I was anxiously awaiting MM and then so disappointed when they didn't allow you to utilize SD card more. My daughters tablet is used for apps and its stores such a sorry amount of apps. Is there any way I can change the memory to SD card without rooting it? I don't want to brick my daughters tablet and I'm not sure I'm confident enough to root it, plus we couldn't afford a new tablet if something went wrong. Any advice would be appreciated.
dude just revent to KITKAT via FLASHTOOL.it still is the best OS in every single category included battery life..
kos25k said:
dude just revent to KITKAT via FLASHTOOL.it still is the best OS in every single category included battery life..
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How does that help give it more memory/space?
SamraLee said:
How does that help give it more memory/space?
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I think you mean storage, not memory (two different things altogether)...that's why the other person recommended going back to 4.4. Pretty sure he was referring to better RAM management than 6.0.
Really, your best bet is to have her be mindful of what apps she actually uses. Most times there are games rarely ever opened hogging up storage.
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I think you mean storage, not memory (two different things altogether)...that's why the other person recommended going back to 4.4. Pretty sure he was referring to better RAM management than 6.0.
Really, your best bet is to have her be mindful of what apps she actually uses. Most times there are games rarely ever opened hogging up storage.
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Thank you, you are right I do mean storage. I wasn't aware of the different wording. All I really want is for my memory card to be able to have more on it. I wonder why Sony chose not to go with making external storage your main storage. Is there a way to force it to go to SD card without rooting?
oh sorry I had in nind that on kitkat you can transfer apps on sd.I saw it now and I can't.beside this,if you plan to root it,it worths cause in MM there is very high risk if you transfer apps to sd..
SamraLee said:
Thank you, you are right I do mean storage. I wasn't aware of the different wording. All I really want is for my memory card to be able to have more on it. I wonder why Sony chose not to go with making external storage your main storage. Is there a way to force it to go to SD card without rooting?
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What you can do SAFELY, is go into your App settings and change what storage they use. Not every App has the ability to do this. Some games have this option, Pokemon Go being one of them. You can move the data stored on device internally to instead be stored on SD card. This can add up if several apps can do this.
Anyways, it's a thought.
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What you can do SAFELY, is go into your App settings and change what storage they use. Not every App has the ability to do this. Some games have this option, Pokemon Go being one of them. You can move the data stored on device internally to instead be stored on SD card. This can add up if several apps can do this.
Anyways, it's a thought.
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Yes, thank you. I have done this already. I appreciate your advice. Is there anything I can do that is less risky than rooting, and perhaps a little more novice friendly, but isn't 100% risk free? My daughter is only 4, but she loves having loads of different apps and rememebers ones I've deleted.
Here's a post I found that digs into the issue more. With some solves laid out in a tutorial. Sony seems to have disabled the feature in MM...this will enable it.
Adaptable Storage
You can also give the Sony suggested walk-through below a try...let us know if it helps.
You might also try using a lower capacity SD card...sometimes certain devices can be finicky with anything 32GB or over.
It looks like Sony devices have been mentioned in that regard.
Here's some tips for managing your available memory. Try these methods one after the other.
Open the notification by dragging the status bar downwards, then tap the notification. The storage menu opens.
Move files or apps to the memory card (SD card), if you have one inserted.
Move files to a computer (if you no longer need them on your device).
Delete files from the internal memory.
To move files from the device memory to the microSD card (if inserted):
Open Settings > Storage
Scroll down to the end of the menu and select Transfer data to SD card.
Select the items (photos, videos and music) you wish to move to the SD card.
Un-select a category if you see the information, that there is not enough memory on the SD card to transfer all files.
Select Transfer to start the transfer to the SD card.
To delete files from the device memory:
Open Settings > Storage > Internal Storage.
Tap a category to select what you want to delete from the device memory.
Depending on the category selected you have different options on how to proceed:
Apps: Selecting Apps will open the Apps menu. Here you can uninstall downloaded applications, if you do not need them anymore.
Pictures, videos: Selecting this option will open the Album application or Google Photos. In these applications you can delete pictures or videos to free device memory.
Audio: If you tap Audio you can see the audio tracks currently stored on your device memory. You can delete tracks using the File Commander or the Music / Walkman application.
Downloads: In this category you can see a list of all files you have downloaded to your Xperia™ phone or tablet. To delete a file just touch and hold it and then tap the trash bin icon in the top right corner.
Cached Data: Applications can aggregate quite huge amounts of cached data while working. If you select this category you can delete all cached data at once. This will not delete any personal data. Deleting the application cache from time to time is highly recommended to free device memory.
Misc.: In this category you can see files and folders which have been created manually on the device memory. To delete a file or folder just tick the checkbox in front of the file or folder name and tap the trash bin icon in the top row. Please be careful while deleting files and folders, as a deleted item cannot be recovered.
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Bandage said:
Here's a post I found that digs into the issue more. With some solves laid out in a tutorial. Sony seems to have disabled the feature in MM...this will enable it.
Adaptable Storage
You can also give the Sony suggested walk-through below a try...let us know if it helps.
You might also try using a lower capacity SD card...sometimes certain devices can be finicky with anything 32GB or over.
It looks like Sony devices have been mentioned in that regard.
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I just bought a Z3c tablet and a 64GB SANDISK U3
90MB/S micro sd card, do you think I'll have issues?
Bandage said:
Here's a post I found that digs into the issue more. With some solves laid out in a tutorial. Sony seems to have disabled the feature in MM...this will enable it.
Adaptable Storage
You can also give the Sony suggested walk-through below a try...let us know if it helps.
You might also try using a lower capacity SD card...sometimes certain devices can be finicky with anything 32GB or over.
It looks like Sony devices have been mentioned in that regard.
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Note that as of Marshmallow you can definitely move apps to the SD card, but only the ones that Sony hasn't bundled as part of the ROM. However, even doing so doesn't change the cached files that those apps use... For example, I had Hearthstone installed, and while I can "move" the app to the SD card, it still unpacks over 1GB of files to the internal storage, which sort of defeats the purpose. I have a 64 GB card, and as long as its Class 10 or above you shouldn't have any issues with not being able to write or use it for media files, etc
I ended up removing the game all together, and I can't remove enough of the bloatware to free up space.
When you're in the Storage screen as listed in the above guide, you also can't set the SD card as default.. the option to do so doesn't appear within Sony's ROM.
I would suggest that OP looks at the games she has, and removes the larger ones, keeping more of the smaller ones installed. Otherwise, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM is the only other choice if you want to stick with that hardware and want to free up more room
One big issue nobody talks about or is completely unaware about is that everytime you download or store any media like movies, not only does the original space of the movie gets occupied, the media storage app in the phone magically increases the exact same amount of storage usage. You could verify it yourself by going into storage and select the view system apps option. So for example if you download a 2 gb movie, instead of going from 62-60gb storage space, it goes from 62-58gb storage space. This is very big issue which is also faced by many OnePlus devices. You cannot force stop the media storage app or delete any data or cache in it. The only temporary solutions which worked for some is deleting the recycle bin data, clearing unwanted data using files app and maybe resetting your device but the fact that this issue exists is a huge problem and is still unresolved for many users. I hope someone might be able to solve this issue or could at least help make realme aware about this issue.
Google has already solved it with Pixel 5. But Chinese manufacturers seem, kind of, lost in translation
Jokes apart, I have this same problem with OP 9RT and am really tired of deleting my videos, photos again and again..... Android 12 didn't solve it and after Oxygen OS 12 I have little hope that Android 13 will be any better.
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Google has already solved it with Pixel 5. But Chinese manufacturers seem, kind of, lost in translation
Jokes apart, I have this same problem with OP 9RT and am really tired of deleting my videos, photos again and again..... Android 12 didn't solve it and after Oxygen OS 12 I have little hope that Android 13 will be any better.
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I think I might have been wrong, after further inspection the Google files app showed the proper storage. I think it may be a problem of the storage app showing wrong storage for some reason instead of actually losing storage. I don't remember correctly if the issue was on the storage options in setting or Google files itself.
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I think I might have been wrong, after further inspection the Google files app showed the proper storage. I think it may be a problem of the storage app showing wrong storage for some reason instead of actually losing storage. I don't remember correctly if the issue was on the storage options in setting or Google files itself.
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Are you sure?
Asking as I also used many Storage apps, like SD Maid etc. and some of them actually did not show the space taken by Media Storage app! As per them the storage was fine and free there.....
But then I found out that when the Media Storage size went over 50-52Gb, I couldn't install a huge game, like Genshin in my phone any more as Play Store showed the message that I have to uninstall some apps to make space!!!
So apparently, at least in my 9RT, the Play Store/System is considering the space shown in Media Storage as real!
This is the present situation in my phone, after many resets ....
Out of this 40Gb apps, the Media Storage is taking 30Gb....
Which, by now, I'm sure is consisting of that 25Gb videos and other app data
All I can hope for now is by some miracle, OP fix it or that Google brings the Pixel 7 to India...... as at least they listen to the Bug reports and do solve them even if it takes some time. OP 9 Pro has this problem since launch, and by now, in almost 1 year One Plus couldn't solve it....so I really have very little hope from them now.
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Are you sure?
Asking as I also used many Storage apps, like SD Maid etc. and some of them actually did not show the space taken by Media Storage app! As per them the storage was fine and free there.....
But then I found out that when the Media Storage size went over 50-52Gb, I couldn't install a huge game, like Genshin in my phone any more as Play Store showed the message that I have to uninstall some apps to make space!!!
So apparently, at least in my 9RT, the Play Store/System is considering the space shown in Media Storage as real!
This is the present situation in my phone, after many resets ....
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Out of this 40Gb apps, the Media Storage is taking 30Gb....
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Which, by now, I'm sure is consisting of that 25Gb videos and other app data
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Are you sure?
Asking as I also used many Storage apps, like SD Maid etc. and some of them actually did not show the space taken by Media Storage app! As per them the storage was fine and free there.....
But then I found out that when the Media Storage size went over 50-52Gb, I couldn't install a huge game, like Genshin in my phone any more as Play Store showed the message that I have to uninstall some apps to make space!!!
So apparently, at least in my 9RT, the Play Store/System is considering the space shown in Media Storage as real!
This is the present situation in my phone, after many resets ....
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Out of this 40Gb apps, the Media Storage is taking 30Gb....
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Which, by now, I'm sure is consisting of that 25Gb videos and other app data
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How much storage do you have left? Cause I just looked into and remembered that you don't have to worry too much about the media storage app taking your space cause I don't think it actually affects your space even though it shows in your settings.
My phone has a total internal space of 256gb(my phone doesn't have a sd slot also) and as you can see, I've only used 204gb of my space but adding all the storage shown below(especially the video and app storage) I've almost used 300gb space which is almost impossible.
Another example is my Google files app which literally shows I've used 297gb even though my phone literally has a 256gb internal storage. So I think it's safe to assume that the media storage app doesn't actually cause much issue and you don't have to worry about it too much.
Interesting!
My Google Files is showing I have 66GB free (out of 128GB). But Downloads(4.1)+Videos (25) + Docs (4.7) + Apps (40) is totaling to 73.8GB. That comes to a total of 74+66 = 140GB!!!!
Now, taking that (as per Files) I have 66GB free, I have used up 62GB already. That may be as - Videos(25)+Downloads(4.1)+Docs (4.7)+ about 28GB of System, may be? I don't have any idea how much space Android 11/12 takes now a days....
Tomorrow I will fill my phone with some more videos to take the Media Storage app size to around 60GB at least (need some 35GB of movie files, which fortunately I have This should make the device think that I have used up all of my 128GB (incl. system) space. And then I will again try to install Genshin/WOT Blitz/Grid , any one game of about 3-4-5GB and see what the system says......
As it's past 12:30 at night in my end, I'm switching off for today now....Will report tomorrow about the storage experiment! Take care, bye!
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Interesting!
My Google Files is showing I have 66GB free (out of 128GB). But Downloads(4.1)+Videos (25) + Docs (4.7) + Apps (40) is totaling to 73.8GB. That comes to a total of 74+66 = 140GB!!!!
Now, taking that (as per Files) I have 66GB free, I have used up 62GB already. That may be as - Videos(25)+Downloads(4.1)+Docs (4.7)+ about 28GB of System, may be? I don't have any idea how much space Android 11/12 takes now a days....
Tomorrow I will fill my phone with some more videos to take the Media Storage app size to around 60GB at least (need some 35GB of movie files, which fortunately I have This should make the device think that I have used up all of my 128GB (incl. system) space. And then I will again try to install Genshin/WOT Blitz/Grid , any one game of about 3-4-5GB and see what the system says......
As it's past 12:30 at night in my end, I'm switching off for today now....Will report tomorrow about the storage experiment! Take care, bye!
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Hi!!!
Became so busy I couldn't come to this thread.....
As per my last post, I filled up my phone towards up to 60GB and yup, my total storage went well over 128GB as per Files app And yeah, Play Store didn't let me install a small game of about 10MB as it showed the message of no space available.
Lost the screenshots, as I hard reset the phone again on the advice of some OnePlus customer care service provider. No result, it's still the same......
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Hi!!!
Became so busy I couldn't come to this thread.....
As per my last post, I filled up my phone towards up to 60GB and yup, my total storage went well over 128GB as per Files app And yeah, Play Store didn't let me install a small game of about 10MB as it showed the message of no space available.
Lost the screenshots, as I hard reset the phone again on the advice of some OnePlus customer care service provider. No result, it's still the same......
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So i guess apart from installing new apps after the fake storage filled situation, i guess we won't be having much problems.
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So i guess apart from installing new apps after the fake storage filled situation, i guess we won't be having much problems.
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Well, lol, looks like that....
The short time I had with my Phone being over 128GB in size, it performed normal tasks well, no lag. But, can we record Videos/photos in that situation? As I just hard reset my phone, it will take some time to get filled up again. So I suppose, this time you'll have to test if we can record videos when our phones get well over their storage limits , provided you have the time off course
Did you by chance try using a third party app store or apk files for installing apps when the storage was "overfull"?
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Did you by chance try using a third party app store or apk files for installing apps when the storage was "overfull"?
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Never used any Third Party App Store. It was pure Android 12 issue which OnePlus developers didn't have the time to fix. It is solved now in Android 13.