I dont care what anyone says - the stock rom is faster.
I've been using dcd 3.2.5 for almost a week - like the Rev-A, dont care for the GPS, rest is pretty good.
But I could swear that it was not as responsive as the stock.
So I just got down reflashing the stock rom tonight - sure enough, the phone is much more responsive.
I'm curious as to other's experience since many think that dcd 3.2.5 is faster (just not in my experience)
So now I'll be waiting for the official VZW upgrade sometime this century...
normally, i wouldn't butt in on this; but i've noticed my phone has been much less responsive...
I'm not going to blame anyone or anything yet, but for example, when I'm drafting up a text, I can't even add recipients from my contacts, it just sits there and 'searches' forever...
but yeah, that's just my rant for today
I really do appreciate everyone's work and I try to help out the community wherever I can, so I'm not bashing.
If anyone knows of any software issues that are creating sluggishness, please let me know.
Otherwise, Keep up the good work everyone.
I agree
Also, I wont dare bash anyone for the work that has gone into these roms. I only wish I had the skill to do what some of these guys or doing.
This was in no way meant to bash anyone - just something I noticed
Maybe its some program I was running - who knows
While I loved having Rev-A, overall speed is more important to me right now
I may go back to dcd's rom in a few weeks if I find I really need the rev-a but for now its back to stock and some more playing around
(maybe I'll find out if it was a program I was running or not)
by chance are you using HTC Home?
I originally flashed 3.2.5 with the Pre-Built ROM and noticed the build was a bit sluggish. I have since went back and adjusted the page pool to 8.5 mb and some other minor adjustments and noticed a decent improvement in the response.
scrawnyb - Just to give you something to compare to... I just now tried starting a text message from scratch and there was no wait at all when opening the message app, selecting a contact, and sending. I have approx. 1000 msgs in my sms inbox and around 130 contacts. Also keep 2-3 days worth of my outlook inbox synced (~50megs.. wireless sync limitation ).
I was on 3.2.0 (fairly stable, bit sluggish). Went to 3.2.3 (buggy for me, not much better on speed). By far 3.2.5 has been the best 3.2.x rom so far for me. I have to agree as well that the original stock rom was fast but i can deal with the minor quirks here and there to get Rev A when tethering and GPS. Also I couldn't live without threaded sms now!
It has been so long since I ran the stock VZ ROM that I really could not compare it outright to 3.2.5. But every build since that first upgrade has been faster and less buggy than the last. I would have to say that the speed and lock up issues are getting better every new ROM.
I am NOT going to revert back to stock to do a side by side comparison so take my opinion as just that: my opinion. But that is the great thing about all these talented individuals who are customizing these ROMs for the public. There is more than one choice and you have to try them all to find what you like.
I've definitely noticed a delay. It's gotten to the point where even touching the start menu and accessing folders has become sluggish, making the xv6700(I compared, xv6700 in stock rom vs xv6800 updated) appear LIGHTNING fast.
And I specifically remember when I first got my xv6800, I noticed how much faster it was than my 6700... Infact, STOCK 6800 has more free ram than any custom rom I've used!! (27-28MB free when I had to flash back to fix my data connection)
I started off with dcd and now I'm with nuerom v2.2 and things just keep getting progressively slower. I don't know what to tell anyone
It's something you guys are doing that is causing the problems.... period... Just to test, I'll make a ROM and you can download it and flash, and tell me what ya see....
My experience is with every rom upgrade it gets better and better. I can't believe how fast 3.25 is on mine then 3.22 was. Huge difference and just about perfect.
I would be curious to know what apps you guys are running. Maybe you have something in common that is slowing you down?
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My experience is with every rom upgrade it gets better and better. I can't believe how fast 3.25 is on mine then 3.22 was. Huge difference and just about perfect.
I would be curious to know what apps you guys are running. Maybe you have something in common that is slowing you down?
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I've narrowed it down to one of the following:
HTC Home <- this seems to be the most likely
Wisbar Advance <- don't think it's this
W.I.M.P. <- didn't notice a difference by closing this
Stock ROM was buggy and it drank RAM like water. DCD's ROMs blow the stock out of the water.
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no - didnt use it with either rom
My comparison was 3rd party preinstall - tested immediately after flash
I've got some apps on the stock rom now and its slowed down just a bit but still more responsive than dcd's latest version
What you use depends on what you need - I dont need rev-a or gps so I'll take the speed
What you use depends on what you need - I dont need rev-a or gps so I'll take the speed
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You do know that Rev A and GPS aren't all you're losing right? Have fun with Windows Mobile 6.0 and its crappy memory management, lack of threaded messaging etc.
If Rev A and GPS are what you don't care about...have you bothered to try dcd 1.7.0? Windows Mobile 6.1 without GPS/Rev A, compatible with 1.x.x radios and Olipro 1.20...
3.2.5 is the fastest rom I've seen on this phone, stock or otherwise; AND I'm running it with HTC Home / HHC.
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3.2.5 is the fastest rom I've seen on this phone, stock or otherwise; AND I'm running it with HTC Home / HHC.
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i agree, although i'm not running HTC Home, or VZW stock rom, but this is by far the best ROM of DCD's i've ever run.
WHAT?
I can't really comment on VW's stock ROM since I've never used it; however, I have USCC and have compared it side-by-side with Sprint's stock, as well as Sprint and USCC stock side-by-side with DCD's 3.2.3 and 3.2.5... Yes, I've flashed the hell outta' the two Titans! My personal experience reflects DCD's 3.2.5 to be the fastest (and even most stable) of all. It's awesome! The only problems I encountered I noticed to occur with HTS Home installed (it would consistantly freeze up the unit). I also S2U2 to conflict with FTouch Flo and Slither's Cube (Sluggish). I read about, and subsequently tried, installing HTC Home via HHC and it worked; however, I don't believe that the resulting performance was worth the programs' actual usefulness. I'm sticking with SPB software. DCD's 3.2.5 is hands-down the best ROM as far as performance/speed goes.
Here's my 2 cents worth.
I like the gps but dont need it. I find that it is not nearly as powerful as my bluetooth gps. Certainly nice to have when i dont have my keys with me (my gps is a keychain model). The other problem is that the gps doesnt seem to work when you are outside USA.
I love revA. The upgrade from stock to anything with revA is almost worth by itself.
The memory management of the stock rom is a problem. So dcd has it hands down there.
But the real killer for me. No ICS on the verizon stock rom. Thats the real reason I went to a custom rom. And so far I like dcd's custom roms far better than anything else out there.
Now I agree that some of the dcd roms have not been perfect. For me 3.2.3 for example just wouldnt float my boat. I stayed with 3.1.6 for the longerst time. But I have to say that 3.2.5 is just about bulletproof. As gc said above 1.7.0 was my favorite non revA/gps rom because it was similar. But for me at least 3.2.5 is great. It's incredibly fast and with all the added goodies it make the titan almost a pleasure to use.
Of course your mileage might vary, but for me I can't see much on the horizon better than dcd 3.2.5 (until perhaps verzion release up gps upgrade rom and dcd and cg pull the guts out of it so that we get "instantaneous" gps lock like our sprint brethren.
I swapped over from Verizon stock to dcd 3.2.23 with Radio 3.42.02, HTC Home / HHC, and WkTask 1.1.7.3.
I've noticed a remarkable increase in battery lifetime (approximately 20%), the speed of the phone hardware/response increase dramatically (I no longer have to wait in seconds for the screen to rotate on sliding the keyboard out), and I now have extra features like GPS and internet sharing, which Verizon locks out of the phone while stock.
All in all, my Titan performs faster with a wider range of uses for longer than stock.
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I originally flashed 3.2.5 with the Pre-Built ROM and noticed the build was a bit sluggish. I have since went back and adjusted the page pool to 8.5 mb and some other minor adjustments and noticed a decent improvement in the response.
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Can the page pool be adjusted without reloading the rom? If so, how? Also, what program are you using to adjust the page pool?
Jeff
question: if you guys arent using HTC home what are you using as a replacement that is as good or better?
just curious... I have HTC Home on an older dcd rom (3.1.6) .. it is the only ROM i have ever put on this device other than stock. If there is a known memory leak then perhaps I will update to 3.2.5 and grab a different today screen app.
so any suggestions?
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Any recommendations of which cooked ROM would be good for a Sprint Mogul aka Titan? I want to flash one that still has the live search bar on the today screen, I use it constantly and would like to keep it.
I have been testing multiple ROM's over the past few weeks and here's what my experience/opinion is. You can load any ROM and then download Windows Live since it's not included in cooked ROM's.
The 2.17 stock ROM loads up with approx 25mb free if you bypass the customizations. I don't run this one, it comes with too much crap I don't need.
DCD's clean ROM 1.5.7 loads up with approx 26mb free with the 1.40 radio. Very stable, and runs great.
DCD's alpha 2.17 based ROM loads with approx 26mb free with the 1.47 radio. Didn't seem as quick as the 1.5.7 and I experienced issues receiving calls with this ROM (had to press the answer button twice and sometimes three times). I have not run this ROM with the 1.40 radio but DCD thinks it may fix the issue I had with receiving calls. I had to soft reset with this ROM alot more than the 1.5.7. This ROM also changes the initial HTC logo that you see on a soft reset with the words "dcd's clean rom" below it. A minor issue, but I didn't like having that there.
Custel's 1.1 4MB pagepool loads with approx 28mb free on the 1.40 radio. This ROM is the quickest and most stable ROM I have ran. My only gripe, albeit a minor one, is that the data connection is named Alltel Wireless and resets itself to Alltel Wireless on a soft reset even if you change it. I use Sprint so it kind of bugs me, though it does not affect your data connection and you do not roam to another network.
I recommend using the 1.40 radio in lieu of the 1.47 radio with any ROM. I get a much better and more consistent signal with it.
HTH
Im going to try out Custels' ROM, so all I have to do is downlaod windows live and istall it on my phone? I really just want the search bar in the today screen, because then I edit the key to search google instead of live.
Yup, that's what I've done in the past. Trying to find a link for you...
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Yup, that's what I've done in the past. Trying to find a link for you...
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Thanks!! I upgraded to custel's rom seems to be running good so far! all I need now is the search bar, greatly appreciate it if you do find it.
jhendrickson said:
I have been testing multiple ROM's over the past few weeks and here's what my experience/opinion is. You can load any ROM and then download Windows Live since it's not included in cooked ROM's.
The 2.17 stock ROM loads up with approx 25mb free if you bypass the customizations. I don't run this one, it comes with too much crap I don't need.
DCD's clean ROM 1.5.7 loads up with approx 26mb free with the 1.40 radio. Very stable, and runs great.
DCD's alpha 2.17 based ROM loads with approx 26mb free with the 1.47 radio. Didn't seem as quick as the 1.5.7 and I experienced issues receiving calls with this ROM (had to press the answer button twice and sometimes three times). I have not run this ROM with the 1.40 radio but DCD thinks it may fix the issue I had with receiving calls. I had to soft reset with this ROM alot more than the 1.5.7. This ROM also changes the initial HTC logo that you see on a soft reset with the words "dcd's clean rom" below it. A minor issue, but I didn't like having that there.
Custel's 1.1 4MB pagepool loads with approx 28mb free on the 1.40 radio. This ROM is the quickest and most stable ROM I have ran. My only gripe, albeit a minor one, is that the data connection is named Alltel Wireless and resets itself to Alltel Wireless on a soft reset even if you change it. I use Sprint so it kind of bugs me, though it does not affect your data connection and you do not roam to another network.
I recommend using the 1.40 radio in lieu of the 1.47 radio with any ROM. I get a much better and more consistent signal with it.
HTH
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i saw somewhere a registry edit that would resolve your connection renaming itself every time...ill try to hunt it down
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Any recommendations of which cooked ROM would be good for a Sprint Mogul aka Titan? I want to flash one that still has the live search bar on the today screen, I use it constantly and would like to keep it.
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I don't know why you don't just try them all out. There are so few that could try them all out from the time you finish eating dinner to the time you go to bed at night.
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I don't know why you don't just try them all out. There are so few that could try them all out from the time you finish eating dinner to the time you go to bed at night.
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someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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Thanks! dcd, I tried your cab as well as your rom and its seems to be working good for me, I also saw that you posted a thread with your kitchen, so here comes the noob question! how hard is it to use that to cook up a rom, is there a tut around to read about that? thanks again for the help and keep up the good work.
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someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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I'll download your kitchen and see what I can do. Building ROMs is not my specialty but who knows, maybe it'll grow on me...
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I'll download your kitchen and see what I can do. Building ROMs is not my specialty but who knows, maybe it'll grow on me...
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Its not that hard, only gets complicated when adding stuff not already included in the buildOS packages. DCD put together a nice little list of commonly used options, you click what you want, hit go, run a script which creates your .nbh, and flash it!
Actually I was able to make one and then test it but just ended up removing hardspl and putting the official Sprint Rom back on until I could figure out how to make something better. The only questions I have now is how add OEMS to the kitchen and will OEMS made for Wizard Windows Mobile 6 ROMs work in this kitchen for the Titan?
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Actually I was able to make one and then test it but just ended up removing hardspl and putting the official Sprint Rom back on until I could figure out how to make something better. The only questions I have now is how add OEMS to the kitchen and will OEMS made for Wizard Windows Mobile 6 ROMs work in this kitchen for the Titan?
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wm6 oems are wm6 oems. gsm stuff might have gsm stuff. it will (probably) build, and then you can fix/tweak it from there. if it fails due to conflicts, you need to identify the files in question, and decide which of the two needs to go. an oem is just a cab laid out. if the cab would install on wizard or titan, its oem probably would.
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wm6 oems are wm6 oems. gsm stuff might have gsm stuff. it will (probably) build, and then you can fix/tweak it from there. if it fails due to conflicts, you need to identify the files in question, and decide which of the two needs to go. an oem is just a cab laid out. if the cab would install on wizard or titan, its oem probably would.
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Great to know. I will start building a new ROM in the morning. It's 12:27am right now and I have to get some sleep. I've been up for over 26 hours thanks to working 2 jobs. I'm off tomorrow though thanks to a huge ice storm blanketing the area I live in. Sucks to drive in but hell I needed the time off...
I honestly believe Imcokeman's Clean alltelwm5 rom is the best. It boots with 28-29mb and is way stable. I haven't had one crash for 2 weeks. Thats saying a lot (for the titan lol).
I love DCD's 1.6.8 Rom over the stock rom. i have verizon.
it is very clean and i love the memory and speed on it. it feels faster than the stock as well and i do not know why i waited so long. doing the upgrade was a bit scary at first.
Some Points:
*All the skins look smoking hot compared to the default skins, The dialer is highly functional now, almost like the spb mobile shell dialer but without the bloat or memory waste.
*i didnt even have to do a *228 to program the phone after the rom update, everything just worked, email sync, text messages, get and make calls and internet.
*27.76 megs ram free after soft reset, i bet i would have more if i used a memory releasing program like oxios hibernate. 1.71.36 megs of storage free. that was more free than i had total before for internal storage.
*it has lots of tweaks pre-applied. like the text message sent confirmation turned off. the audio volume increase tweak, the 5 meg page pool.
*very polished feel, more so than the stock rom
*faster than the stock rom. i would say 50% faster? hard to gauge, but i notice it is speedier.
I have not tried custel's rom or any other rom's, installed this one and was very happy with it.
I've recently downloaded DCD kitchen and love it. I've also starting using OEMizer and making my own ROM's. It's a lot of fun and addicting. DCD Rom's seem to be the best for me. I like the clean approach and it gives me the option to install what I want and customize my phone. The other ROMs include to much stuff I don't find useful.
I don't get it! I had the 2.17 rom from sprint installed- Mogul was running quickly and stable. upgraded to new official sprint rom 3 and was running a bit sluggish. Just upgraded to wm6.1 and my phone laaaaaags!
what gives? The reason why i upgraded to wm6.1 was for increased speed and stability. I have yet to read a negative review of wm6.1. Is my Mogul busted?
FWIW: clean install dcd 3.0.1via olipro 2.4 Official sprint radio3.* pre iinstalled.
I have hard reset multiple times with no difference in speed.
Everything from txt input, opening apps, switching landscape, even internet is significantly slower than sprint rom 2.17.
I can live without rev a (never saw any download difference in san diego) but i HATE lugging around my BT gps receiver. I don't want to go back to 2.17.
Please help!
Thanks guys.
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I don't get it! I had the 2.17 rom from sprint installed- Mogul was running quickly and stable. upgraded to new official sprint rom 3 and was running a bit sluggish. Just upgraded to wm6.1 and my phone laaaaaags!
what gives? The reason why i upgraded to wm6.1 was for increased speed and stability. I have yet to read a negative review of wm6.1. Is my Mogul busted?
FWIW: clean install dcd 3.0.1via olipro 2.4 Official sprint radio3.* pre iinstalled.
I have hard reset multiple times with no difference in speed.
Everything from txt input, opening apps, switching landscape, even internet is significantly slower than sprint rom 2.17.
I can live without rev a (never saw any download difference in san diego) but i HATE lugging around my BT gps receiver. I don't want to go back to 2.17.
Please help!
Thanks guys.
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Did you build your own ROM from a kitchen? or downloaded it from the links?
If you build your own there are ways to customize it to make it run faster, even have more memory.
There are some tricks to give you more glypcache on your phone to make it run faster, but you sacrifice RAM.
Thats weird. I have DCD's 3.0.1 ROM and my mogul has never been this fast before, even without Rev.A here in South Carolina! Try flashing again?
I just upgraded last night from dcd 2.31 to dcd 3.01 plus 3.35 radio.
At first, I did notice some sluggishness, but after using it for a while, the speed has returned to normal (what I was used to before upgrade).
I think that maybe after flashing, the phone needed to do some catching up, especially since I restored all my histories and text messages.
you might also try a new pagepool if you are custom cooking your rom. the last few that I have cooked have been pooled at 6 or 8 and i just cooked my recent one at 12. its much faster. Even the screen orientation and everything
PPCBackUpPro 2.5 slowed my 6.1
PPCBackUp 2.5, or whatever it's called, temporarily slowed my 6800 WAY down after I tried restoring my Messages with it (or was it Calendar). Amazing program, probably time I upgraded to 2.8 and made a donation.
However thought I'd share and see if it helps anyone else. After a soft reset or two (and not launching/auto launching PPCBackup 2.5), my DCD 3.01 was nice and snappy. I had just upgraded from stock ROM 2.09 to DCD's 3.01 prepackaged .exe
DCD 3.0.0 here, faster than ever, on par with the Alltel WM5 ROM that was unstable but FAST on my mogul.
Coincidentally, my battery life has improved about 30% as well, and I haven't dropped a call in a while (we have low reception in our office).
Nothing but good news here...
I installed the dcd 2.1.0 verizon rom with the v3.27.0 radio (following these instructions:
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/)
and everything went fine but now my device is freezing up and generally not acting healthy. Can anyone vouch for this set up and/or recommend the best current rom for verizon? Im not too concerned with having GPS available (but would be nice), I would really like to have a nice no junk rom above all else. Thanks for any advice.
I haven't had good luck with any of the gps/reva roms on verizon... Seems every rom combination has it's share of quirks/bugs it's just a matter of finding the one that has some u can live with
I'm yet to find one that is FLAWLESS... if you find one let me know!
I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.35 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
Edit: sorry guys, was not thinking as i typed. I meant 3.35 radio (the one from the sprint update). Flash the 3.35 or 3.37 radio!
I would suggest using the latest ROM as well. Seems to have made a difference with battery life to me.
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I would suggest using the latest ROM as well. Seems to have made a difference with battery life to me.
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interesting how u guys on vzq have no problems with the reva radios... I was running 3.0.4 for quite a while until I finally canned it because I couldn't deal with apps crashing when switch to other procs... I went back to 1.7 to see if there was a problem there too but everything runs good it seems... am having bluetooth problems locking up device sometimes though so now I'm back to vzw stock radio to see if that fixes things? Actually I have no idea if bluetooth would be affected by radio or not but I'm desperately trying to find a stable setup.
I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.27 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
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This is VERY bad advice and will only screw your phone up even more. It says in numerous places on these boards that 3.27 radio is NOT compatible with 3.x.x roms. The only roms that will work with the 3.27 radio are the 2.x.x roms.
My question to you though is why on god's green earth are you still wanting to run a 2.x.x rom with the old crappy buggy beta radio 3.27? Just update with the alltel updater to get radio 3.37.20, don't let customizations run, then flash dcd 3.0.4...much much better and will probably fix your gps problems.
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I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.27 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
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Danger!
radio 3.27 is NOT compatible with dcd 3.0.4 rom!!!
1) radio 1.30 or radio 1.40 = use dcd 1.7 (non gps rom)
2) radio 3.27 radio = use ONLY dcd 2.x.x series roms (with gps , revA - experimental)
3) radio 3.37 radio = use dcd 3.0.1 or 3.0.4. (gps and revA official)
my recommendation would be option 1 or 3. Depending on whether you want gps or not.
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interesting how u guys on vzq have no problems with the reva radios... I was running 3.0.4 for quite a while until I finally canned it because I couldn't deal with apps crashing when switch to other procs... I went back to 1.7 to see if there was a problem there too but everything runs good it seems... am having bluetooth problems locking up device sometimes though so now I'm back to vzw stock radio to see if that fixes things? Actually I have no idea if bluetooth would be affected by radio or not but I'm desperately trying to find a stable setup.
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Zen,
I think you might be the victim of a dodgy titan. I was, like you, using 1.7 for the longest time because I couldnt put up with the buggy 3.27 radio. So i just stayed non gps until the new radion 3.35 came out and dcd released 3.x.x series of roms. Since then I bit the bullet and went back to gps rom. I didn't look back. So far dcd rom 3.0.4 + radio 3.37 (alltel) has been the best (i.e reliable) rom setup I have experienced since I was on dcd 1.7.0. I think they are both equal now, except that I have gps enabled now and I dont need to carry my gps with me all the time.
The internal gps does SUCK the battery down kinda fast, but it is reliable. No bluetooth issues that I can see except that call quality is still sub-par but at least it connects without any trouble. If I am using the gps function in the car i use my BT gps because the BT radio uses a lot less juice than the internal gps receiver.
I have VZW just like you and gc, az clown etc and we all have similar good experience with the new setup. So the only other thing I could say about your titan problems is that it must be hardware. Try stock again and see if it clears up the problems then I would say that my reading of your situation is wrong. But from what you have said it seems right.
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Zen,
I think you might be the victim of a dodgy titan. I was, like you, using 1.7 for the longest time because I couldnt put up with the buggy 3.27 radio. So i just stayed non gps until the new radion 3.35 came out and dcd released 3.x.x series of roms. Since then I bit the bullet and went back to gps rom. I didn't look back. So far dcd rom 3.0.4 + radio 3.37 (alltel) has been the best (i.e reliable) rom setup I have experienced since I was on dcd 1.7.0. I think they are both equal now, except that I have gps enabled now and I dont need to carry my gps with me all the time.
The internal gps does SUCK the battery down kinda fast, but it is reliable. No bluetooth issues that I can see except that call quality is still sub-par but at least it connects without any trouble. If I am using the gps function in the car i use my BT gps because the BT radio uses a lot less juice than the internal gps receiver.
I have VZW just like you and gc, az clown etc and we all have similar good experience with the new setup. So the only other thing I could say about your titan problems is that it must be hardware. Try stock again and see if it clears up the problems then I would say that my reading of your situation is wrong. But from what you have said it seems right.
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Well, that's the thing.. when I go to stock everything I have no problems but am stuck with crappy wm6.0... I don't mind not having the gps so much but it def would be nice... However, I do hate having to run an older rom that isn't community-supported any longer due to newer releases...
I think my problem with 3.0.4 might have been the way I flashed the radio.. I was one of the original ones to actually get the dcd released radio installation to work and hadn't really looked back.... im wondering if maybe that was the problem... I might consider trying the sprint rom method to get the radio and then trying 3.0.4 again...
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
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Now I'm not saying I condone this, but man...there are definitely ways to get warranty replacements even if everything works fine...
Just need to "screw things up" on your own Make it so your phone won't boot, bring it to a vzw tech center...cuz they won't know what the hell is wrong with it trust me...and bam they'll swap it out.
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Also, i have had 2 replacement xv6800s. One was for white spot in the bottom left part of the screen. I had to call VZW and tell them they were out of replacements at the store. The other was replaced a week later for data not working.
Zenoran said:
Well, that's the thing.. when I go to stock everything I have no problems but am stuck with crappy wm6.0... I don't mind not having the gps so much but it def would be nice... However, I do hate having to run an older rom that isn't community-supported any longer due to newer releases...
I think my problem with 3.0.4 might have been the way I flashed the radio.. I was one of the original ones to actually get the dcd released radio installation to work and hadn't really looked back.... im wondering if maybe that was the problem... I might consider trying the sprint rom method to get the radio and then trying 3.0.4 again...
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
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Zen,
go the 'official' route from stock. olipro 2.40. sprint 3.35 official (without allowing customizations) then flash dcd 3.0.4. If you still then have problems then we can isolate your flash before as a potential problem.
if you still have all the same issues then i really think its time for a new titan. If all is well then you can finally relax and enjoy the device.
Good luck
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Zen,
go the 'official' route from stock. olipro 2.40. sprint 3.35 official (without allowing customizations) then flash dcd 3.0.4. If you still then have problems then we can isolate your flash before as a potential problem.
if you still have all the same issues then i really think its time for a new titan. If all is well then you can finally relax and enjoy the device.
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Ya, I actually did the Sprint Flash this time around and things seem to be working better, to my surprise... Things seem to be running a lot better now compared to the radio hack I was using before... I imagine that's the reason dcd killed that link off the forums... although it didn't brick my phone, it obviously was crippling my device quite a bit.
Only thing that worries me (somewhat) about the sprint rom was that it changed the bootup screen (pre os load).. it's now black screen with red lettering showing versions... I have NO idea how that can be reverted back if I ever need to have this thing serviced. That sprint rom appears to totally changed the device.
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Ya, I actually did the Sprint Flash this time around and things seem to be working better, to my surprise... Things seem to be running a lot better now compared to the radio hack I was using before... I imagine that's the reason dcd killed that link off the forums... although it didn't brick my phone, it obviously was crippling my device quite a bit.
Only thing that worries me (somewhat) about the sprint rom was that it changed the bootup screen (pre os load).. it's now black screen with red lettering showing versions... I have NO idea how that can be reverted back if I ever need to have this thing serviced. That sprint rom appears to totally changed the device.
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Flashing of the pre-windows boot screens (i.e. the ones that show up around the time that the red lettered rom versions appear) are not part of the rom. You can't modify them with dcd's kitchen.
There are three options that you have.
1. You can create a mini rom with the splash screens in it that you can flash to the device. I dont know how to do it and dont really care to find out, but gcincotta knows how to do it and posted instructions a few days ago in another post. He can tell you how to do it.
2. You can use the ppcgeeks kitchen to create boot screens and then flash your dcd rom over the top.
3. Flashing a stock verizon, sprint, alltel etc rom will contain the splash screens and put them back on along with the correct (stock) radio and roms. Then you can take your very clean 'stock' titan back to the store for repairs or replacement without fear.
maccaberry said:
Flashing of the pre-windows boot screens (i.e. the ones that show up around the time that the red lettered rom versions appear) are not part of the rom. You can't modify them with dcd's kitchen.
There are three options that you have.
1. You can create a mini rom with the splash screens in it that you can flash to the device. I dont know how to do it and dont really care to find out, but gcincotta knows how to do it and posted instructions a few days ago in another post. He can tell you how to do it.
2. You can use the ppcgeeks kitchen to create boot screens and then flash your dcd rom over the top.
3. Flashing a stock verizon, sprint, alltel etc rom will contain the splash screens and put them back on along with the correct (stock) radio and roms. Then you can take your very clean 'stock' titan back to the store for repairs or replacement without fear.
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Interesting.. I've never seen that changed other than this sprint rom... the stock VZW rom images I have just do the OS and Radio separately... I guess when/if I run into a situation where I need to revert back I'll worry about it then.. Until then, the newer boot screen is def cooler
gcincotta said:
Now I'm not saying I condone this, but man...there are definitely ways to get warranty replacements even if everything works fine...
Just need to "screw things up" on your own Make it so your phone won't boot, bring it to a vzw tech center...cuz they won't know what the hell is wrong with it trust me...and bam they'll swap it out.
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gc, this is so true. The 'techs' at the verizon stores (bless their hearts) know nothing at all about the titan. you could go in there with a fully "sprintized' titan and seriously they wouldn't notice.
I found this out the first time I tried to flash. I thought I had bricked the device and took it to the "service center" verizon store near my location to get the data back working (yeah that's all the problem was, but I was a noob and didnt know better). They didnt have the slightest idea what to do to solve the problem. They screwed around with it for a while and gave it back, basically the same. they offered to switch it out for me, but I said i will try just a bit longer (and it had a customized 'colonel - ppcgeeks' rom on it - if you have ever seen one it is completely unmistakable - looks nothing like a verizon rom).
I went outside, called *8899 and got a service support tech to fix the phone over the air. The problem had just been the data account needed to be reset at their end. Not only did the guys in the store have no idea how to fix it, they didnt even notice that my device was clearly not stock.
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Interesting.. I've never seen that changed other than this sprint rom... the stock VZW rom images I have just do the OS and Radio separately... I guess when/if I run into a situation where I need to revert back I'll worry about it then.. Until then, the newer boot screen is def cooler
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Yeah, if you do the flashes separately the boot screen never change. I still had the original verizon boot screens until just recently when I did the upgrade to dcd 3.0.4. Its the running of the sprint installer that overwrites your verizon splash, not the rom or the radio themselves.
Anyway, i used the dcd kitchen to create my 3.0.4 rom and selected HTC animation. That creates a HTC splash to overwrite the sprint stuff, and then I did this and this and my machine looks sweet when it boots.
The instructions of how to load them is explained in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379822
Enjoy. (I cant post pics of the screens because the xda database is busted at the moment)
It's on HTC's website, dated July 7th. I haven't seen any other threads on it, and I wanted to see if anyone else has tried it. I've updated to it myself, and it seems to be an overall improvement over the version I had. There's really nothing much in the notes, though it seems they tweaked quite a bit. Most notably, it's done wonders for my battery life. I used to always come home with a phone that was nearly dead. Now I get home with 60-70% still left on the battery. It could be my imagination, but the phone seems a bit more responsive now as well. If the battery life is anything to go by, it could just be from general optimization of the ROM. Other points of interest... the activesync app is no longer self-launching, and Opera Mobile appears to have had an update as well.
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Here's the link: http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=200&act=sd&cat=all
im in the process of doing it know, ill let ya know what i think in a bit
I tried it when it 1st came out, its definitely better than the shipped rom, but its still got all of the bloatware and other b.s. that interferes with performance. IMO, you're still better off with a cooked rom.
ya i honestly cant tell a different between stock rom and this update
Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
one of these day ill get around to putting a custom rom on my phone.
thiers just to many and i cant figure out which one i want
stock
if i have already unlocked my phone and running a custom rom and want to flash to this stock rom do i need to do anything different?
No, just flash as you normally do. Every couple of flashes I go back to the stock rom anyway. Probably just the "placebo" effect, but I've convinced myself it helps.
Do it for the Radio
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Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
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Notation to everyone here this ROM includes an updated radio. 1.12.20F. So that it's self should be worth it. I run NFS rom but I am going to update to this so I can grab the updated radio. I will then jump to his. My radio is currently 1.03.16F. It also has the later PRL and PRI.
I see the in the Radio Thread in this forum that they have the alltel readio without the whole ROM. So if you want go that route. I have just found that doing a stock flash every once in awhile keeps my custom flashing less problematic.
im still having problems as far as radio signal.........and the only reason i don't just upgraded the radio is their is no alltel dump yet
I also get great battery life after the update.
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I also get great battery life after the update.
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Agree and better signal quality. Used the Field Test to check the signal.
tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
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tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
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Go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531134
and look on the first post. In it it says how to check my signal. That will show you what you need. Lower is better for all 3 numbers it shows in the post to look at.
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typing this didn't do anything...all i got was call cant be completed as dialed
One very nice discovery I made today (because of how little I actually talk on my TP) is that they've changed the call answer screen a bit. Seems they took a page from Apple's book and changed the answer and ignore buttons into a slider. You slide it all the way left to answer, and right to ignore. Should fix the accidental answer problem I know a lot of people (including myself) have had.
Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
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Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
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I wouldn't attempt it if I were you. Have you considered trying a custom rom? If you've never done it I could help you through the process. Stock roms SUCK!
Can i ask you if it works in a touch pro un-locked of the vodafone Italy company?
I have an alltel touch pro but my area switched to verizon now, im assuming this won't be a problem because i didn't need to do any update when they switched so im guessing the radio won't be an issue? Really want to do this if it increases battery.
Also will this remove any settings or themes that kind of stuff?
edit nevermind i see it removes everything.
if i take my memory card out before i update can will all the programs that are one it reinstall? and when i put all my backed up data back on the device do the programs reinstall or do i have to do something to reinstall them?
my old fuze died which i put winmo 6.5 on based of a rom i made using the PPC Kitchen.
**edit: this is not the reason it died, infact i loaded a stable build and it worked great with nothing needed for 18months... my screen developed an oily residue... strange enough**
need to flash a new rom on the new phone i got as i had insurance on my old one. havent done it in a over a year so i am not sure what the best and most stable version/build is... and also curious about "radios" not sure what that is.
i am looking for:
stability as i dont plan on flashing often.
improved speaker quality
smaller text
teathering
mobile hotspot
better gps signal pick up
any sugestions?
as always i appreciate any help and will be donating to the rom i use.
Thanks
FYI: Radio are the internal GSM Radio Band, basically the software/hardware combo for an internal antenna. Upgrading to newer Radios sometimes help with battery life, performance, and reception/signal in general.
And for my ROM recommendations, I'd recommend two:
Captain's Special found HERE.
And/or the TAEL ROM [click the image right below this text.]
thanks Zack i went with the latest energy rom. i will give it a go for a couple days and i updated the radio after i updated the rom to 1.02.25.32i will give it a i usually take off TF#D i will give Sences a a small run it looks to be using alot of memory60-75%.
Yeah, HTC Sense is a memory hog... But hey, you must pay for beauty.
Glad to see you selected a ROM. I would've recommended an EnergyROM, but, in my opinion, there's just too much stuff pre-installed [for my taste].
try tael if you want stability. im currently using the latest energy one and my battery dies quickly. but taels battery lasts longer