Since I run Linux systems at home I'm really interested in running it on my phones too. I kinda ordered my new phone since my TYTN is falling apart (does not synch thru USB anymore) so I can wait till late november for HTC to release their phone on Android.
So, do you think HTC will make an Android ROM for the Raphael? (or is there a big probability someone will cook it from another ROM)
I don't think they will do such a Android-ROM for Touch Pro as they will try to sell their new Android-Device. But since the Touch Pro has this Qualcomm-CPU, I hope Android will run on it - Again, made by some community-member, not HTC.
would somebody like to try booting linux on the raphael? I wonder if things will behave in the same way as on the diamond ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002 )
in that thread, marbalon posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=104265&d=1218018832 a package with latest haret and a build for the halibut machine from the google git.
also you can replace the zImage in the diamond.zip with the zImage builds for vogue from dzo: for example http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage
or try the kaiser kernel http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/zImage.bin
and report what happens. does haret get further than go go go? Which machine does it detect?
thanks
can a moderator move this to raphael rom development please?
I tried the bootkit for Diamond, the latest builds for the kaiser from igorris and also the latest build for vogue - but all hang up.
i will investigate a bit....
do they hang at 100% / Go Go Go? Do you see console output?
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do they hang at 100% / Go Go Go? Do you see console output?
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Yep at 100%, Go Go Go i can´t see.
Please take a look in this topic..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002&page=17
Its about running Android on the Diamond..
And they didnt got it working...
And the Pro got the same proccesor/chipset ast the Diamond..
we created a research page with links to the kernel relevant wiki pages:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelResearch
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can a moderator move this to raphael rom development please?
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Done... and good luck!
As i wrote last time, i didn´t get running the kernel for Kaiser (Latest Build) and Vogue (Latest Build).
Now it seems that the problem is or at least could be related to the storage card. It´s a common problem that sdhc-cards over 4gb won´t work as a android drive. so maybe anyone can try it with a card that fit the needs - i have only a 8gb model?
Good Luck and post every result!
I have tried vogue version on my raphael but it hangs on booting linux... 100% and i it hangs every time.
files are on phone not on sd card.
/Andre'
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As i wrote last time, i didn´t get running the kernel for Kaiser (Latest Build) and Vogue (Latest Build).
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It is not a big surprise, because Raphael has a different CPU.
Now it seems that the problem is or at least could be related to the storage card.
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The SD controller on MSM7200 CPU is located in a different memory area
compared to the MSM7200A CPU.
Edited, I thought you meant a different processor than the G1.
Kinda stupid why people funny toil to try execute a linux on a wm6 device?decide whitch one uu want then buy... 4 my is awful idea have linux on my diamond pro no thx...
seeing forward to try android for this phone.
waiting...
/andre'
norrback said:
seeing forward to try android for this phone.
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We need the G1 kernel source, and modules (if there would be some closed-source drivers). I have documented many (most?) MSM gpios,
the DRAM config is known too. I'm researching the Hitachi LCD setup
because G1 has a different panel, so it will be necessary to modify
the init/suspend routines.
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awful idea have linux on my diamond pro no thx...
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Well, we don't post here that virtually everything from micro$oft sux, don't we ?
I'm not a big google fan, but fighting the monoculture is always a good thing.
cr2 said:
Well, we don't post here that virtually everything from micro$oft sux, don't we ?
I'm not a big google fan, but fighting the monoculture is always a good thing.
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Totally agree.
wm is the best mobile os at the moment unfortunately (if android is not counted), nokia's symbian just plainly.. eh, stinks. and so on.
Android would be really nice, waiting for it to raphael, even as a flashable rom! That would be so awesome! (we dont need WM to flash, it works straight from the bootloader, so why not!)
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Totally agree.
wm is the best mobile os at the moment unfortunately (if android is not counted), nokia's symbian just plainly.. eh, stinks. and so on.
Android would be really nice, waiting for it to raphael, even as a flashable rom! That would be so awesome! (we dont need WM to flash, it works straight from the bootloader, so why not!)
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You hit my point of view!
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hi ,
is there any one here whoz intrested in installing linux on gene or anyone who can guide me on how to do that
thx
Linux on Gene
Hey I am interested in installing Linux on gene.
count me also
actually we can do it
did u have any link or page so we can get started ??
ankit360 said:
count me also
actually we can do it
did u have any link or page so we can get started ??
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Hi ankit,
i am not a geek when it comes to creating roms or porting linux on gene but i am intrested in doing that...i was searching the internet and i found this page..Hope this helps you to give some idea about it...
http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary
am interested too
Hey Man I am really a linux Lover, Take me into consideration...
I am really looking for installing linux on my gene.....
Can you tell which flavor u r taking for it.......
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Hey Man I am really a linux Lover, Take me into consideration...I am really looking for installing linux on my gene.....Can you tell which flavor u r taking for it.......
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hey dude i am a novice when it comes to Linux..what do you mean by what flavor of Linux???
lets start from android
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lets start from android
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hi Ankit...
check this link..its from kaiser rom development...thought it might help us...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470649
This Kaiser port don't work on Gene. They have a different hardware.
The first thing needed to run Android is a kernel that support our hardware.
A good place to start is here. They have a kernel (linwizard) that may boot on our device.
oh....very nice thought..U all r doing great job....
carry on...
@ ramersonw
is it like emulation or it will boot directly ???
r u interested in it so we can make it possible
It's a kind of emulation. The kernel will run on wimo using Haret. The linwizard project has a version of Haret that works in the Gene processor(TI OMAP850). It's like a vmware prog.
To run linux on our device we have to:
1st. we have to make the Haret work with the processor of the gene (stable)
2nd. make the Linux kernel works with the hardware of the gene (write drivers for touch screen, cellular radio , bluetooth radio, etc)
If we have it, we can run Android, Opie, GPE any flavor of linux for mobile.
I'm very interested in port linux (Android) to gene, but is not an easy task and will also consume very much time.
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It's a kind of emulation. The kernel will run on wimo using Haret. The linwizard project has a version of Haret that works in the Gene processor(TI OMAP850). It's like a vmware prog.
To run linux on our device we have to:
1st. we have to make the Haret work with the processor of the gene (stable)
2nd. make the Linux kernel works with the hardware of the gene (write drivers for touch screen, cellular radio , bluetooth radio, etc)
If we have it, we can run Android, Opie, GPE any flavor of linux for mobile.
I'm very interested in port linux (Android) to gene, but is not an easy task and will also consume very much time.
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but i think if we use emulsion I think we cannot use or get full power of linux or android
but let's start with emulation then we think about boot diretly
so lets start with android I will start this project this week and post update
we can make it possible
anybody interested ¿???????
ankit360 said:
but i think if we use emulsion I think we cannot use or get full power of linux or android
but let's start with emulation then we think about boot diretly
so lets start with android I will start this project this week and post update
we can make it possible
anybody interested ¿???????
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count me in...i am ready
hi ankit
when you say `count me in' what implications does it have...hehehe just in case...
im also VERY interested in a faster stabler gene...and i feel linux is the way to go...BUT ive recetly used windows 7 on a dual boot with my vista system and i tell you it is FAST...in fact not only faster than vista but even XP on a 512 mb ram system!!!
...also i must admit it is MUCH slicker and faster than the LinuxMint 6.0 based on ubuntu 8.10 which i had running on my system!
...what im trying to say here is that if MSoft does to WM& what they have done to Vista in Windows 7, i think we r better off using WM7 than linux...for all practical purposes!
Regards
hotdoc0
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hi ankit
when you say `count me in' what implications does it have...hehehe just in .....practical purposes!
Regards
hotdoc0
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Not necessarily. Linux is probably the most stable OS after SCO, if I am not wrong. And it is also the most light weight OS as well. I guess you can run Linux on a P II 450 MHz system with all the goodies with fair speed . So imagine what it can do to your Gene .
don't start linux vs windows war here
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don't start linux vs windows war here
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Ya, Uske liye thindigit forum hi kafi hai, kyun ankit?
Linux vs Windows
Ofcourse, I don't have any intention, otherwise why would own to WM Devices ?
One of them would have been Moto Ming . What I was saying is since a few you guys (the real developers) are thinking about porting Linux to Gene, there is no point arguing about sticking to WM for the heck of it, come on you people are developers, and once you get your hands on source code, may be you will make it even better than WM! Hope you are getting my point (I am not a developer though).
I just read in the XDA Portal that someone found a way to dual boot between two different Android Roms on one phone and ,well...i was wondering if this is possible with Windows. i have Miri N Dinik's Rom right now but say i wanted to try out Energy's Rom too...but keep my previous Rom. Is that doable or is there something special in Android phones that makes it possible?
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I just read in the XDA Portal that someone found a way to dual boot between two different Android Roms on one phone and ,well...i was wondering if this is possible with Windows. i have Miri N Dinik's Rom right now but say i wanted to try out Energy's Rom too...but keep my previous Rom. Is that doable or is there something special in Android phones that makes it possible?
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Thread moved to Q&A
To answer your question no its not possible to dual boot between 2 WinMo Roms. Android runs of partitions so you can install an Android Rom on different partitions and then select which partition to boot from. WinMo doesnt work like that.
Mark.
oooohhh o.k. thanks ! i need to hurry up and take these IT classes to further my computer and systems knowledge. January can't come soon enough. iv'e learned so much from just this site alone though..i think i'll have a bit of a head start when i do start class.
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oooohhh o.k. thanks ! i need to hurry up and take these IT classes to further my computer and systems knowledge. January can't come soon enough. iv'e learned so much from just this site alone though..i think i'll have a bit of a head start when i do start class.
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Just use xda as your reference guide and you will do fine lol.
Mark.
Hi,
About 2 weeks ago I downloaded the Android ROM for my HTC HD2, it works great, I really like Android more then Windows Mobile. Although everything works and seems fast enough, i have the feeling my phone can do more. If i look at videos of a HTC Desire HD it runs much faster, though the hardware is almost identical.
As I understood my phone is still running Windows Mobile but it is running in a state that emulates the hardware for a Android phone, so i can run Android. Now for my question, is there a way to run Android directly on my phone, without using Windows Mobile in the background?
Greetz Willem
williamsean said:
Hi,
As I understood my phone is still running Windows Mobile but it is running in a state that emulates the hardware for a Android phone, so i can run Android. Now for my question, is there a way to run Android directly on my phone, without using Windows Mobile in the background?
Greetz Willem
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this question is in the wrong section
ATM its not possible for none DEVS to run Andriod directly from you phone NAND memory.
DEVS are working on it but there are still some issues to solve before it will be launched you can follow the progression at the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
When you switch over to Andriod as a native OS you wont be able to run WM anymore, you can multi boot Android OS and Unbuntu of your SD, so if you want to use WM also then running Andriod of your SDcard is the only option
wilwilwel said:
this question is in the wrong section
ATM its not possible for none DEVS to run Andriod directly from you phone NAND memory.
DEVS are working on it but there are still some issues to solve before it will be launched you can follow the progression at the link below:
When you switch over to Andriod as a native OS you wont be able to run WM anymore, you can multi boot Android OS and Unbuntu of your SD, so if you want to use WM also then running Andriod of your SDcard is the only option
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Thanks for replying, what do you mean with ATM? and DEVS?
For what I understand from you post, they are working on a native android rom for the HD2, but it's not finished jet... And when I would install it i can't boot windows mobile anymore... Is that correct?
Will there be a posibility to revert my phone back to windows mobile when i would like to sell my phone...
-First winmo is shutdown when booting android.
-At the moment booting right from the hd2 memory is only possible with nand (from internal memory) . Wich is currently not for public release because it contains bugs.
-The reason why it is not at same speed as desire hd is that the kernel for the hd2 is not perfect and maybe nand can do a little speed increase. But it is getting better current kernels are much faster than a month ago.
ATM= At the moment
DEVS= Developers
PS: This is the wrong section.
jan-willem3 said:
-First winmo is shutdown when booting android.
-At the moment booting right from the hd2 memory is only possible with nand (from internal memory) . Wich is currently not for public release because it contains bugs.
-The reason why it is not at same speed as desire hd is that the kernel for the hd2 is not perfect and maybe nand can do a little speed increase. But it is getting better current kernels are much faster than a month ago.
ATM= At the moment
DEVS= Developers
PS: This is the wrong section.
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Witch section should it be in? Q&A or something? Can I change that right now?
What I understand is that it actually doesn't make a difference when I would boot android without windows mobile, only a minor speed increase because of faster memory? The real speed increase would come from a better kernel, witch the developers here are working on... Is that right?
Do you happen to know a ROM with this newer kernel? (so i can see if i already have it)
williamsean said:
Witch section should it be in? Q&A or something? Can I change that right now?
What I understand is that it actually doesn't make a difference when I would boot android without windows mobile, only a minor speed increase because of faster memory? The real speed increase would come from a better kernel, witch the developers here are working on... Is that right?
Do you happen to know a ROM with this newer kernel? (so i can see if i already have it)
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You can't change that right know but that is not a real problem. And what you are saying is right. We have to wait for a better kernel.
In terms of rom with kernel newer roms have most of the time newer kernels.
You can select [Everyday Builds][latest linux_on_wince_htc][PPP] CM6.1+ from michyprima this ones has no sense but are really speedy compared to sense builds. They use latest kernel. Anyway if you pickup a build from the last 7 days you can put any kernel that you want of it my favorite kernel at the moment is this. And contains a patch wich resolves screen freeezes wich happen sometimes. The most recent kernels are mdeejay S4 & hastrin r8.2. Or the CM6.1 build I said above because it have the latest kernel. The hastarin where I link you to contains the touchscreen freeze fix. Wich is not included in all hastarin 8.2 kernels.
jan-willem3 said:
You can't change that right know but that is not a real problem. And what you are saying is right. We have to wait for a better kernel.
In terms of rom with kernel newer roms have most of the time newer kernels.
You can select [Everyday Builds][latest linux_on_wince_htc][PPP] CM6.1+ from michyprima this ones has no sense but are really speedy compared to sense builds. They use latest kernel. Anyway if you pickup a build from the last 7 days you can put any kernel that you want of it my favorite kernel at the moment is this. And contains a patch wich resolves screen freeezes wich happen sometimes. The most recent kernels are mdeejay S4 & hastrin r8.2. Or the CM6.1 build I said above because it have the latest kernel. The hastarin where I link you to contains the touchscreen freeze fix. Wich is not included in all hastarin 8.2 kernels.
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Thnx for the reply, all is much more clear now...
I only have 1 more question, can update only the kernel of a ROM, so i don't have to install a hole new ROM and keep my preferences?
Yes that is also possible.
Is there something like a guide for it? url?
Installation:
1. Copy zImage to the "Android" folder on SD card
2. Copy "root" folder to "Android" folder on your SD card (overwrite files or combine when needed never delete the current one and replace it with the new one always overwrite files if folder structure already exists)
Sometimes the folder root is not included by the kernel then create
root/system/lib/modules
inside put :
tun.ko
bcm4329.ko
cifs.ko
and create:
root/system/lib/hw
lights.htcleo.so
If the file is not inside the package then don't create a folder for it. You should always have this file bcm4329.ko The rest is different for different kernels.
Edit:
You can download a kernel in different threads.
For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831585
For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787588
VBN files should also have latest kernel without tweaks but cant find it now.
Hi, I have HTC HD2 on WM6.5.
I want to change to Android icecream or gingebread on SD. my current radio is 2.07.51.22_2 and protocol 15.32.50.07U and OS 5.2.21869. what are the necessary changes need to go this done.
but i do not want to flash the ROM
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Hi, I have HTC HD2 on WM6.5.
I want to change to Android icecream or gingebread on SD. my current radio is 2.07.51.22_2 and protocol 15.32.50.07U and OS 5.2.21869. what are the necessary changes need to go this done.
but i do not want to flash the ROM
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This might be of assistance. You should really post in the devices thread. THere are countless tutorials that will help one flash Android to their HD2 while still having WM on their phone.
Thanks for the reply. I am new here. I read somewhere that to change to android, must change radio version. also how to find out waht is my phone SPL version?
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Thanks for the reply. I am new here. I read somewhere that to change to android, must change radio version. also how to find out waht is my phone SPL version?
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It's all Ike that link look at the stickies and threads. And for sd card android I don't think you have to , I think it's just for nand. But quote don't quote me on that! xP I've never ran sd android I love nand!
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Thread on HD2 SD Android ROMs is here, there's a few nice one to choose from, my personal favorite (speed, reliability, good battery life) was AmeriCanAndroid (CM7 implementation for HD2) - probably most popular so far with 18k replies and 3M views,
should you decide to test it, all the necessary info in posts #1 and #2,
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Thread on HD2 SD Android ROMs is here, there's a few nice one to choose from, my personal favorite (speed, reliability, good battery life) was AmeriCanAndroid (CM7 implementation for HD2) - probably most popular so far with 18k replies and 3M views,
should you decide to test it, all the necessary info in posts #1 and #2,
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Thanks! I was mobile at the time and couldnt really post links easily. Thanks for that!
The title says it all.
I don't know if you guys watch the latest news in the Android section (i hope so). One thread made me listening: NativeSD.
As far as im concerned, it comes down to emulating an internal rom space on a (preferably faster) microSD.
So: We have no WM6.5 sd-build. Why not installing a "normal" rom in ths NativeSD-space?
Would this work?
Greetings from Germany,
schousta
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The title says it all.
I don't know if you guys watch the latest news in the Android section (i hope so). One thread made me listening: NativeSD.
As far as im concerned, it comes down to emulating an internal rom space on a (preferably faster) microSD.
So: We have no WM6.5 sd-build. Why not installing a "normal" rom in ths NativeSD-space?
Would this work?
Greetings from Germany,
schousta
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AFAIK it's not possible yet. I know Cotulla posted on Twitter he was working on that. But I think bootloader won't support it, but I'm not sure
I assume that someone would still need to take apart the windows bootloader. That's what many here are waiting for. Haret is for linux build.
But I will jump in as soon as its ready to gogogo!
Sent from my HD2 using the power of Jelly Bean
If I remember correctly, Cotulla was done with making it possible to run Winmo on a SD card. He is just stuck (I guess) about figuring out how Winmo, Android, and I think WP 7 were going to share the same partition. My guess is its not working how he'd like so he put things aside and is working on other projects until new ideas or solutions come about in the future. What I'm wondering is why he just doesn't go ahead and release the Winmo SD by itself as I see he already made a DWI flasher for it already.