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I will be willing to answer any questions you have regarding wm6
my first impressions of it are pretty good... its running quite stable on my athena with apps installed
-spb mobile shell (does not work if autohide is disabled)
-spb brain evolution
-spb diary (installing this did significantly slow it down)
-wisbar advance beta 4
-resco explorer
-resco keyboard
-ae button plus
-wm5storage
-htc audio plugin
there are some more but im copying some files so i cant use the phone
intially its very very fast... much faster than wm5 noticbly so
It does seem to support native vga as in device info the resolution is listed at 640x480
i dont however see the terminal client for remote login... i could be lookin in the wrong place? i dunno
the included dialer skin / theme is quite nice
Everything seems to be working flawlessly i havent tried voip yet...
IE data speeds seem to be significantly faster for me... as compared to wm5
Ill be posting more later once i use it a bit more...
Mind to share Windows Media Player Skin
No issues found yet. The device seems *a lot* snappier, and indeed the GPS fix occurs a lot faster. I now also suddenly have a fix inhouse ... (allbeit near the window). In WM5 that simply would not happen.
boinger66 said:
It does seem to support native vga as in device info the resolution is listed at 640x480
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This resolution is listed in the WM5 too, does your device have smaller buttons, menus etc?
bydandie said:
This resolution is listed in the WM5 too, does your device have smaller buttons, menus etc?
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no the icon sizes seem the same but when I try to install a qvga skin it takes up the same portion when running previosly in wm5 with truevga mode
so I think it is truevga mode
also while typing the text prediciont works real well
Ergh, can I get rid of the horrible GREEN comm manager?
Other than that, its wm6 again.. Ahh, sigh of releif.
If you change the theme of your device to the windows default and then restart it should get rid of the horrible skin. For some reason mine kept the phone dialler skin until I had restarted again, but now it's not so green any more.
My first impressions are that the device itself runs very well with WM6. So far no real hassles. The only thing I have discovered is that TomTom 6 now thinks my device is a new device so it looks like WM6 has changed the hardware ID. I am still able to use my device. I had to manually active the maps though and the TomTom application for downloading maps and updates won't let me change my device to the 'new' one.
boinger66 said:
no the icon sizes seem the same but when I try to install a qvga skin it takes up the same portion when running previosly in wm5 with truevga mode
so I think it is truevga mode
also while typing the text prediciont works real well
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Yep, the buttons are large. I'm not quite with you with the other comment, could you post a screenshot? Have you managed to get the smaller homescreen top/bottom bars without installing VGA hack software?
Apart from that, everything is a lot faster, typing on the keyboard is more responsive and I'm happy, deffo worth it just for the proper email client alone.
bydandie said:
Yep, the buttons are large. I'm not quite with you with the other comment, could you post a screenshot? Have you managed to get the smaller homescreen top/bottom bars without installing VGA hack software?
Apart from that, everything is a lot faster, typing on the keyboard is more responsive and I'm happy, deffo worth it just for the proper email client alone.
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well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
no VoIp
I can't find the option, did you find it?
boinger66 said:
well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
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Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
boinger66 said:
well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
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If I'm not asking much, can you make a youtube?
Abram said:
Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
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The IE high resolution and fit to screen do help, but it also makes the test pretty small. As an example, when displaying yahoo.com, and set to high resolution and fit to screen; the whole width of the web page is displayed.
hey can i install antena wm6.0 in o2 atom life....pls try to help me out...
pls send some sdp softwares to my mail [email protected]
Abram said:
Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
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let me answer your questions....
1)there is no increase in real estate vs wm5 except in PIE
2)There no no option to change resolution on the fly
3)Yes it does (Pie and Hi-res)
these comments are based on my experience with uni and not athena but are valid for all VGA devices
Additionally there have been reports that VGA Hacks don't work with the later cores of wm6 (the release candidate)
faster than wm5. i had it on xda exec and when i changed to x7500 I kinda missed it but its back baby.
I was happy to see wm6 yesterday. i bought an iphone to see how it is and i was actually disappointed but wm6 made my day.
Thank you xda-dev.
Guys try using Mvr True VGA 1.2 it works..
i dont think you guys are understanding what i am saying
it is true vga
they just made the icons and buttons the same size for easy viewing
if you make smaller icons you get the realestate increase
for example if you install a qvga plug in it will not work...
it will take up the upper left corner of the screen only ... this can be observed by installing the htc audio manage today screen plugin
"Uni" VGA resolution file may work for Athena
I think some expert developers needs to extract the VGA<->QVGA toggle cab files or setup files from "Universal WM6 ROM" and give a try....
May be it will work for our Athena as well....
What do you guys say?
I was really hoping that new ROM is gonna solve this problem...and we will not have to use TrueVga type hacks...
WM6 is fast
Battery problem still here
The Battery problem is still here. You can see only 10, 20, 30, 40 % .... but never 94 %
Hi All
I have been playing with QVGA and True VGA and there is just a too big Gap between the two
One is 2 Big and the other 2 Small
previously on my Jasjar I set the resolution to 144 (Slap Bam in the Middle)
The problem with this is all the VGA Stuff as well as the most of the icons is missing but ..... IT IS REALLY the best RES to work, not too smal or big the sliders etc also looks just right
Shouldn't we start looking at developing for 144 Resolution and get it over and done with once and for all
OK - It's been a long time since I've done this, where do we start!!!!!!!
VGA 128dpi
Hi Skillie,
144dpi resources are hard to get so it would be quite a lot of work. I can easily provide you with 128dpi resources because they are supported by Microsoft.
I will provide you with the necessay files within the next 2 days.
Cheers,
Tobias
VGA 128
This is the installation for VGA 128dpi. Give it a try. This one is for English devices. If you need any other language let me know.
If you don't need the video call function then you can fix the phone by setting the registry entry
HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled=0 and perform a soft reset.
Have fun
PS: When I will find the time I will provide a little program to switch betwen 192dpi <-> 128dpi <-> 96dpi
VGA 128pdi
Sorry it seems that there was a problem with the upload ...
Yeah Man!!!!!!
This is so cool - did you do it all on your own?
I will test this for a while and let you know but the size is nether too big or small - This I can live with this for more than 10 minutes - look at that real-estate!!!!!
Thanks u are Tops!!!
VGA 128dpi
I'm doing PocketPC development device driver development since 2002, so it was not a big deal
There are some minor issues with some dialogs, like the wireless config dialog but I will fix that when I have some time. Actually I got the resources from the QVGA 320x320 emulator, which runs at 128dpi.
Cheers,
Tobias
I have been playing with it - my Phone works but the other usual stuff not
but i am so impressed with this I will actually keep it on this resolution
A lot of work has gone into fixing the the cosmetics i'm sure to find the right files for this as well
From now on I am recommending this to all who complain about big Icons \(or too smal ones )
Excellent Work !!!!!!!
I bet this will be part of WM7!!!!!!
Cheers
Frikkie
I'm gonna sound like a real noob now .... can i just install this new CAb and try it? If i dont like it uninstall and then reset and its gone? Dont wanna bugger up my Ameo as I have it working how i like apart from the screen space!
adamelphick said:
If i dont like it uninstall and then reset and its gone?
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If you uninstall it again you will be back on 192dpi (factory default).
Cheers,
Tobias
I tried this utility quickly. Initially seemed ok. Today screen looked good as did the program files.
However when I tried to start Excel, nothing seemed to happen at all except the machine was apparently stuck on something. It stopped doing anything beyond putting the word excel in the title bar. Still saw the 3 pocket office icons on the screen and that's all that happened. Had to manually stop Excel with the memory tool. Uninstalled the vga cab and all is back to normal, including a working Excel.
I tried this. Excel and word worked perfectly for me.
The backlight glider also has no problem. HTC homeplug is perfect.
Phone application works although it leaves a space at the bottom. Also,I can't see the dialed number if it is not one stored in the contact database. Any way it still beats VJBigphone hands down.
Comm manager is messed up still.
Standard keyboard are too small, as expected. However the Tengo keyboard is still prefect.
All icons on tasksbar are perfect. Today screen icons are completely perfect.
The beautiful standardcalculator skin is gone, replaced by ugly looking round lines for the keys. But this is no big deal. I don't need the standard calculator anyway. HiCalc is the way to go, and HiCalc works well, other than a little gap at the top.
This resolution is way way better IMHO than ozvga or mvrtrurvga. The size of the taskbar and bottom bar is a lot more pleasing, and blend in with the application better, since theit sizes does not contrast too sharply from the button sizes of traditional applicationapplications.
The only real problem is, my navigation software iGO my way is completely messed up. What a pity. I like this resolution very much,but would hate to have to uninstall then soft reset to drive. After driving,I would have to install then soft reset to get back to this.
Is it possible to have a program to toggle,at least to remove the need for installing and uninstalling? I suppose it is not possible to avoid the soft reset?
eaglesteve said:
Is it possible to have a program to toggle,at least to remove the need for installing and uninstalling? I suppose it is not possible to avoid the soft reset?
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I will provide you one this evening. BTW: TomTom for instance works perfectly with this resolution. iGO also doesn't work with 96dpi on VGA as far as I know. I'm sorry
Cheers,
Tobias
Just surprised why it takes so long for this utility to come out. Very very fantastic!
Good... at last something new to play with since the WM6 flashing.
This is definitely the resolution that brings the X7500 to its fullest rights
As mentioned earlier someone had issues with the Excell but I also had a issue but everything works now
Cool
I'm looking forward for the toggle to switch the display modes. Thanks for your huge contribution.
Does it work with WM6? To come back to factory resolution is it enough to uninstall it?
THX so much!
asci said:
Does it work with WM6? To come back to factory resolution is it enough to uninstall it?
THX so much!
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Yes it works on Wm5 & 6
and uninstalling it actually restores it
PS This looks awesome on the jasjar as well (But obvioulsy nowhere near the X7500
Regards
Skillie
THX so much...about phone skin? Should I use an appropriate skin to use the phone?
Great, but some icons missing
Hi, I love it, however some of the small icons in SPB Pocket Plus / Diary are missing... any chance for a fix?
The final version is out and it doesn't work with the 96 DPI on the athena. The tabs are missing in the settings list, which isn't a problem but the tabs have no icons on the home screen. This program looks really useful and I am hoping we can find a way to make it work.
Mods please don't move this thread, it is device specific and I believe the issue would be overlooked in the main thread in the general forums.
Working great over here at 96 DPI! I've installed the final version (2.0.0 build 3275) And so far I haven't seen any drawbacks. Works very smooth, animations without hasitation and a few nice new features.
xvanwaart said:
Working great over here at 96 DPI! I've installed the final version (2.0.0 build 3275) And so far I haven't seen any drawbacks. Works very smooth, animations without hasitation and a few nice new features.
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Hi
Can you see the home tab icons? Can you see the Tab settings list?
see my screenshots there are still problems.
Goatmaster said:
The final version is out and it doesn't work with the 96 DPI on the athena. The tabs are missing in the settings list, which isn't a problem but the tabs have no icons on the home screen. This program looks really useful and I am hoping we can find a way to make it work.
Mods please don't move this thread, it is device specific and I believe the issue would be overlooked in the main thread in the general forums.
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Hi
The tabs can be Replaced in 192 DPI if you using spb weather or phone suite or diary then switch back to 96 DPI, but Home tab you cannot do anything.
Tab settings list still missing in 96 DPI.
See my screen shots and see my previous post.
A blogger on ZDNet reviewed SPB on an Athena, and said it worked well.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=927
techntrek said:
A blogger on ZDNet reviewed SPB on an Athena, and said it worked well.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=927
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Good find however I believe he is ignoring the problems with the 96 DPI. Look at his screen shot the list of tabs are missing. And he has no screen shots of the home plugin, which I thought was a big feature of this application.
Thanks sabes143, I forgot to move the information about 192 DPI in this thread.
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Good find however I believe he is ignoring the problems with the 96 DPI. Look at his screen shot the list of tabs are missing. And he has no screen shots of the home plugin, which I thought was a big feature of this application.
Thanks sabes143, I forgot to move the information about 192 DPI in this thread.
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I agree. It is completely useless. It is impossible to get the tabs working or showing anything meaningful and impossible to get the other menus to stay on the homepage. I would steer clear.
No joy here either with 2.0. No tabs. Today screen plugin is totally useless without them.
Too bad, there are some pieces of it I like!
I saw this posted in the development forum: Password for dat files that are really zip files: b0fm18zq Maybe this will help make the icons show up on the tabs...
Their forums also note that they don;t support RealVGA - that could be the problem (and if it is, that is really shortsighted on their part)...
same problem here,
mobile shell works fine with RealVGA and the 192 dpi setting
but is pretty useless with 92 or 128 dpi activated.
besides the today plugin not working:
in the spb menu (right softkey by default) the icons of all my custom programs look totally crappy, and next to each icon half of the icon of another program is visible.
I have the same issues, except that on my today screen, there are three other icons appearing next to all the icons.
I don't like having so many gestures to go access my applications. Currently my setup is far better than spb mobile.This is what I have:
1.I have date and time on the task bar so what I can see it everywhere. In addition, I have the big clock on my today screen provided by spb time. This lets be have fuller function than spb mobile.
2. I have spb phone suite on my today screen.This is better than what spb mobile offers because in addition to what spb mobile offers, I also havethe ability to switch on/off bluetooth,wifi etc.
3. I use SBSH weather watch today plugin, which of better than spb mobile's weather program because it shows more info,occupies less space,and has much more comprehensive weather stations for smaller towns.
4. I use ilauncher to launch programs. It is much easier and effortsless to configure and customise the icons for all dpi. I also get the safe mode reset capability.
5. I use today agenda to show my calendar and tasklist on my today screen. This is better than pocket informant IMHO because each item takes only one line, so more items could be shown on less space on today screen.
All items are visible at once on my today screen, without any need to swipe any fingers, which is a fun thing to do for just the first few seconds, but is really annoying after that for me.
Don't know, but even i don't like the way it behaves.
Its quite jerky when it does the so called "Animation" when you open contacts or any sub screen.
Its far better to use spb pocket plus or even resco today plugin and get the basic things you need right on your today screen.
Though, its something good to play around for a few days ... but then eventually it boils down to performance. It the device is not snappy, no matter what you do, it will not satisfy ...
Let's give 'em a call!
Goatmaster said:
The final version is out and it doesn't work with the 96 DPI on the athena. The tabs are missing in the settings list, which isn't a problem but the tabs have no icons on the home screen. This program looks really useful and I am hoping we can find a way to make it work.
Mods please don't move this thread, it is device specific and I believe the issue would be overlooked in the main thread in the general forums.
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Has anybody tried to contact SPB Softwarehouse and gave them a version of the TrueVGA to test it with their software? I would think we are a large community with a voice!
JD's Kitchen & ROMS
First off let me say thanks to Conflipper Merdinh Mindfrost82 Scrosler DCD and DA_G !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Instructions: Unpack to your desktop, in the Kitchen folder there will be a batch file , click on the play button ... when it is done close out of it ... the batch file will finish the the update utility will start .... place phone in bootloader mode then flash
Warning:
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR PHONE UNLOCKED TO USE THIS ......
HOW TO UNLOCK: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42503 (Please Read Carefully)
ROM: 1.03.651.4
Known Issues-
Not Known
*Kitchen* DOWNLOAD: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bt86bb 21169 kitchen v4 *Kitchen v4* 3-04-09 (WinMo 6.5) (CURRENT)
*Mirror* (Thanks zero157h7) http://www.blakemitchellweb.com/jd/J...20Betakit3.rar 2-26-09 (old)
*ROM* DOWNLOAD: http://www.sendspace.com/file/731apf 21169 v4 ROM *ROM*v4.1 (WinMo 6.5) 3-04-09 (Most Current)
IF YOU CHOOSE TO BUILD OFF THIS ROM AND DECIDE TO POST IT PLEASE THANK ME
Don't know how to flash: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43266
Warning:
You and only you, are responsible for any changes you make to your PDA .... Flashing ROMs is a risk that you take that can potentially cause damage to the PDA ... I and the good people here will NOT be held responsible for such damage if it occurs .......
JD's Kitchen (WinMo 6.5)
Whats Included:
HTC Album
Total Commander
dciBattery
acb BT Toggle
PsXPShut
Teeter
Audio Booster
Audio Manager
Quick GPS
Voice Recorder
MP3 Trimmer
HTC Zip
MS Office
Adobe Reader
BT Printing Drivers
BT FTP
RSS HUB
JAVA
Streaming Media
Voice Command
Windows Live
HTC EZInput
HTC Xt9
HTC Taskmanager
Manila (with HD Contact Tab)
Manila (GSM OEM)
Opera 15954
Opera 15316
HTC Calculator
HTC Endkey (jd's Skin)
Random Access
LockStream DRM
WorldCard BCR
Sprite Backup
YouTube
CHANGE LOGS
2-18-09
(WinMo 6.5)
Initial Release
2-21-09
(WinMo 6.5)
Removed everything that depends on touchscrolling
added cachefilter.dll back in XIP
removed PhoneCanvas
Changed some settings
2-23-09
(WinMo 6.5)
Fixed issues with installing apps freezing the ROM
Filed touchrecognizer,PhysicsEngine,Ianimate from modules
Fixed message notification (thanks Mindfrost82)
2-26-09
speed up start screen
removed Ianimate.dll
remade kitchen
3-03-09
Base 21169.5.0.0
Removed youtube
Re-added Youtube
3-04-09
Found a true Dogfood build of 21169 (much better)
added YouTube back into kitchen
improved xip
Cleaned up kitchen a bit
ITS FINAL (until a new build comes)
Downloading now JD. I have high hopes for this.
cool JD
does the start menu work in this kitchen? or when you press the start does only the titanium honey comb pop up?
thanks
This is a copy and paste from my blog on thoughts on this rom and 6.5.
http://www.blakemitchellweb.com/blog/?p=31
I use an HTC Touch Pro and recently installed a custom rom running Windows Mobile 6.5. This particular rom was made by Jakdillard and posted at XDA devs. I am not sure about too much of the information as to what parts are used from 6.5 and 6.1. First off I will say that I installed and let customization run first. This had TF3D install and I wanted to get more of a feel for sliding panels. When I disabled TF3D and reenabled Titanium (Thiis the name for sliding panels) it never launched. I thought that there may have been a problem so I did a clear storage. Installation went on again and I did a soft reset during customization. Upon doing this it started back like I had done a clear storage again. This time I let customization run again, did the disable of TF3D and reenabling of Titanium and once again nothing happened but after doing a soft reset titanium was up.
So the performance is pretty wretched. It lags a lot but it is usable. I was able to perform a phone call, get on the internet using the new version of IE, set up google sync in activesync and synced my calendar and contacts, installed and set up funambol for push email, installed amaze gps and was able to get a lock, use wifi, and browsed through pretty much everything. I installed Diamond Tweak and enable some of the tweaks that improve performance but did not see any improvement. When I had IE open my memory was at 85% and it dropped to 37% when I closed it so it is a bit of a memory hog.The new menus are pretty nice and do improve the finger friendliness of the ROM.I like the transparent softkeys and start bar visually, and I like the new honeycomb start menu, although I think it could have been more visually stimulating. Also, We are able to edit the icons that we use on the start bar like we could before and it does not do anything to mess up the new transparent start bar. I installed this cab by tsowen from ppcgeeks and it looks good.
Sliding panels seems pretty nice but there is also a but of a let down. Many people will prefer TF3D or one of the other plethora of shells that can be used on the today screen. Like many of the others shells and today plugins you can't use any other today plugins with this one. I like the look of the sliding panels but the let down comes from the lack of customization straight out of the box. If I could change it I would have sliding panels have each individual setting able to be disabled (i.e. I do not use text messaging because I use email. I would do away with the SMS panel.) Also it is missing some features that are getting integrated into other options. If sliding panels had the ability for developers to develop plugins to cover some of the other areas it would be phenomenal. It is missing some things like weather, rss, im, facebook, and stocks.
I am going to keep running this ROM for another day at least to get a little more familiar. Hopefully I will get a chance to make some screenshots, install second today and see how they play together.
jarlaxle said:
This is a copy and paste from my blog on thoughts on this rom and 6.5.
http://www.blakemitchellweb.com/blog/?p=31
I use an HTC Touch Pro and recently installed a custom rom running Windows Mobile 6.5. This particular rom was made by Jakdillard and posted at XDA devs. I am not sure about too much of the information as to what parts are used from 6.5 and 6.1. First off I will say that I installed and let customization run first. This had TF3D install and I wanted to get more of a feel for sliding panels. When I disabled TF3D and reenabled Titanium (Thiis the name for sliding panels) it never launched. I thought that there may have been a problem so I did a clear storage. Installation went on again and I did a soft reset during customization. Upon doing this it started back like I had done a clear storage again. This time I let customization run again, did the disable of TF3D and reenabling of Titanium and once again nothing happened but after doing a soft reset titanium was up.
So the performance is pretty wretched. It lags a lot but it is usable. I was able to perform a phone call, get on the internet using the new version of IE, set up google sync in activesync and synced my calendar and contacts, installed and set up funambol for push email, installed amaze gps and was able to get a lock, use wifi, and browsed through pretty much everything. I installed Diamond Tweak and enable some of the tweaks that improve performance but did not see any improvement. When I had IE open my memory was at 85% and it dropped to 37% when I closed it so it is a bit of a memory hog.The new menus are pretty nice and do improve the finger friendliness of the ROM.I like the transparent softkeys and start bar visually, and I like the new honeycomb start menu, although I think it could have been more visually stimulating. Also, We are able to edit the icons that we use on the start bar like we could before and it does not do anything to mess up the new transparent start bar. I installed this cab by tsowen from ppcgeeks and it looks good.
Sliding panels seems pretty nice but there is also a but of a let down. Many people will prefer TF3D or one of the other plethora of shells that can be used on the today screen. Like many of the others shells and today plugins you can't use any other today plugins with this one. I like the look of the sliding panels but the let down comes from the lack of customization straight out of the box. If I could change it I would have sliding panels have each individual setting able to be disabled (i.e. I do not use text messaging because I use email. I would do away with the SMS panel.) Also it is missing some features that are getting integrated into other options. If sliding panels had the ability for developers to develop plugins to cover some of the other areas it would be phenomenal. It is missing some things like weather, rss, im, facebook, and stocks.
I am going to keep running this ROM for another day at least to get a little more familiar. Hopefully I will get a chance to make some screenshots, install second today and see how they play together.
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next time when you switch from tf3d to titanium soft reset
That is what I did the last time I changed over. By the way, I have not said thanks so thanks.
jarlaxle said:
That is what I did the last time I changed over. By the way, I have not said thanks so thanks.
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no Problem you can find more updates for this over and www.ppcgeeks.com that is where I generally post
Yeah, I post there more often than here, but had not noticed that it was there until seeing it here and going there to look for it. I thought it was strange that it was here and not there and once I got there I realized you had it in that thread but it did not say 6.5 in the first post (or I overlooked it.) Anyway, I will keep a close eye on that thread.
This a good rom pretty pretty sexy lol ummm i understand its extreme beta an its good i hope yall guys keep doing it up an making it right...yall guys should work for microsoft an htc lol
I have been using Da_g's 6.5 beta 8 for almost a week now and LOVE it. I made the modification to the cpr files to make Titanium a little smoother and more responsive. But the only issues I am left with is when switching from portrait to landscape my phone messes up the image on my homescreen. It clips it and warps it a little. I can fix it by disabling and re enabling titanium or a soft reset.
It always comes back though - does this rom do that?
Also when using RSS hub sometimes the device hangs for up to a minute. On this 6.5. I did not have this on NATF's 4.3 before.
Any help would be appreciated!
http://www.askTheAdmin.com
Very Happy with it.
Except for memory and slight performance tweaking this build has been working great for me on my sprint touch pro.
Thanks to jakdillard and others who developed this.
Some screen grabs would rock my world. TIA
hot my blog on the first page there are several although with my own background image and different icons.
updated .......
Hey JD.. So far I'm loving the ROM, especially placing manila into it.. no bugs as seen yet, enjoying, titanium bars, honeycomb, black diamond theme, facebook/netflix, new IE and just want to say thank you for your hard work. I will be rockin this 21169 v4 ROM *ROM*v4.1 for a while =D>
Well Done Bro,
God Bless
(as posted in PPCGeeks)
GODZSON said:
Hey JD.. So far I'm loving the ROM, especially placing manila into it.. no bugs as seen yet, enjoying, titanium bars, honeycomb, black diamond theme, facebook/netflix, new IE and just want to say thank you for your hard work. I will be rockin this 21169 v4 ROM *ROM*v4.1 for a while =D>
Well Done Bro,
God Bless
(as posted in PPCGeeks)
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How does performance compare to the 6.1 custom roms?
been some time since i have used a custom ROM... def. not on my TP but I have on my previous phones, "Mogul" and 6700... excited to give this a shot... post results soon
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How does performance compare to the 6.1 custom roms?
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Perfomance is good, Touchflo is slow but that's a normality with .5 till a new version comes out.. other than that this is a nice ROM compared to others
stuck on align screen config page
after install kitchen rom, i am stuck on the align screen page. i tap on the + but it does not register. random circular motions cause it to advance to next location of + but it just repeats.
suggestions?
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problem on my device is not limited to this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490567
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a couple of hard resets later and it seems to be working. weird quirk?
In any case, great rom.
Universal CDMA, Sprint, or Verizon?
I haven't seen anything posted saying this is carrier specific. Or what radio is compatible with it.
Can someone elaborate on that?
Overview
From the creator of TouchFlo Detacher comes Mobile Shell 3 Toggler! This is a sister app (at least in spirit) to TFD.
MS3T allows you to quickly and easily switch between the classic Today screen and SPB Mobile Shell 3 by using shortcuts which can be assigned to hardware buttons, links in MS3 itself, etc.
Tip Jar
Like this app? Want more like it or quicker updates? Tip a buck (or Euro or Pound or whatever) or two to help the author out! Click here to make a safe donation via PayPal.
CodePlex
Mobile Shell 3 Toggler is hosted on CodePlex: http://ms3t.codeplex.com/
Current features
MS3T adds the following links into the Mobile Shell folder in your Programs folder.
[Close Spb Mobile Shell] - Kill the MobileShell.exe process
[Hide Spb Mobile Shell] - Show the classic Today screen
[Show Spb Mobile Shell] - Show Mobile Shell 3
[Toggle Spb Mobile Shell] - Show Today if MS3 is visible; Show MS3 if Today is visible
[SmartToggle Spb Mobile Shell] - Similar to Toggle, but it will only toggle if you are already on the Now or Today screen. If you are in another app, it returns to the Now or Today screen. That's what makes it smart.
Limitations
- If you try to assign SmartToggle to the HTC Home button (using AE Button Plus, for example) on your HTC device, it will only work as a regular Toggle. The reason is that the home button always returns to the Today screen (or Now screen) BEFORE AE is able to tell SmartToggle to run. So, SmartToggle sees that you are currently on the Today screen and will toggle accordingly. The same problem will probably also exist with any other similar type of button on other manufacturer's devices.
- On MS3 version 3.5, MS3T may not work when combined with Second Today to give you MS3, TF3D, and Today simultaneously.
How it Works
I wanted to briefly explain how MS3T works for anybody else interested in extending this idea in other (hopefully free) apps.
Mobile Shell 3 has a window using the class SpbNow_MainWindow. This window is a part of the MobileShell.exe process. If you send a particular message to this window, it will tell Mobile Shell 3 to hide or show. This is how the links inside MS3 and the "Spb Home" link on the Today screen work. I imagine there are probably many other messages that may control some pretty cool things, but I haven't explored too deeply. I was only interested in the show/hide messages. I discovered this by using DotFred's Task Manager and analyzing all the window messages going to the various windows owned by MobileShell.exe. I noticed two non-standard messages whenever I showed or hid MS3. Then I sent those messages from my app and, voila! It worked! MS3T was born. Interesting side note: the window that all the MS3 graphics are drawn onto has the window class "Manila" just like TouchFlo. That probably would get confusing if you are running both at the same time. lol.
Action, Message, WPARAM, LPARAM:
Hide MS3, 0x82BC, 1, 0
Show MS3, 0x8258, 1, 0
Another message, 0xC005, seems to happen very regularly when using MS3. I think it might be "refresh screen" but I'm not sure. WPARAM and LPARAM are both 0 in this case.
AFTER UPGRADING MOBILE SHELL VERSION
If you upgrade Mobile Shell 3 to a newer version (for example, from 3.0.1 to 3.5), you should reinstall Mobile Shell 3 Toggler. The reason is that MS3T installs its shortcuts into the Mobile Shell 3 folder and the upgrade can mess them up.
History
V1 - Initial release
Download
Download the latest version at CodePlex: http://mst.codeplex.com/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx
Requirements
Windows Mobile 6.1
Spb Mobile Shell 3, 3.0.1, or 3.5
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Wonderfull app , thanks for sharing it with us
Have added a little something to the Tip Jar
THANKs
what about W5 , any chance to work in it ??
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THANKs
what about W5 , any chance to work in it ??
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Do you mean WM5? give it a try. I wasn't sure because I developed the app in Studio 2008 and targetted my device (WM6.1) but if it works, let me know and I'll update the top post.
How it works
Added an explanation of how MS3T works to the top post. I'm hoping this might inspire others to dig into MS3's window messages and find some other cool things we can do with it.
Work on WM 6.1 on a Palm Treo Pro?
Since the Palm Treo Pro (running WM 6.1) was made by HTC, I never know whether or not the software here on this site will work on it. Will it?
Palm Treo Pro
Of course it will!
Why do you think it shouldn't work?
The important thing is usually the OS, not the exact device (unless it's something specific like TouchFlo3D which you probably don't have...)
(I want a Treo Pro as well... )
Where do you go to assign the hardware key for this program?
Palm Treo Pro
[email protected] said:
Of course it will!
Why do you think it shouldn't work?
The important thing is usually the OS, not the exact device (unless it's something specific like TouchFlo3D which you probably don't have...)
(I want a Treo Pro as well... )
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Why would I think it would not work? I don't know why some of the software wants me to pick between QVGA or some other resolution. At times, the 320 x 320 is a problem, as the software is too big (or too small) for the screen.
I am soooooooo glad that I found Mobile Shell (and really like their version 3), as I moved from a Palm OS to WM---ycch! Like my Treo Pro (unlocked GSM on T-mobile network), so you can't have it Until they come out with the Palm Pre in an unlocked GSM with the WebOS. Yummmm...... Then we can talk!
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Where do you go to assign the hardware key for this program?
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MobileShell 3 Toggler relies on other apps (or the OS itself) to map its functions to keys. The first place to look is under Settings then Buttons. If you are using a newer HTC device, that's usually a pretty sparse menu. lol. I personally use AE Button Plus to remap buttons to functions. If you use AE, buy it! The author doesn't get enough monetary love for such a freaking awesome app.
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Since the Palm Treo Pro (running WM 6.1) was made by HTC, I never know whether or not the software here on this site will work on it. Will it?
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There is no good reason why it shouldn't, but that doesn't mean anything. Download it and try it. If it doesn't work, uninstall it. lol
Smart Toggle Issue?
Thank you for this (and highlighting it to me from Spb forum). I find the toggle works exactly as designed on my Kaiser - but I am not sure that the smart toggle is correct for me.
It will not at all cycle between the 2 home screens. The behaviour I see is that whenever I press this Smart Toggle (assigned to a physical button) I am taken to the HTC Manilla Home: from within Manilla anywhere else, and also from anywhere in Spb Mobile Shell.
BTW - I am using the Kaiser ROM PDA Corner Xv3 and the latest Spb MS3 (3.0.1 Beta 1 (build 6456))
PS - have you considered a three-way toggler to cycle between Spb Home, Manilla Home and the Today screen? This would merge your Touch Flow Detacher and Mobile Shell Toggler efforts and seems a logical next step unless a problem.
Regards
First, toggling between the three would be cool, but I just don't have time to work on it. All the source code is available for both projects. If somebody implements this, just give me a little credit! I won't say "no" but I have no plans right now. As much eye candy as TouchFlo 3D was, it just wasn't that useful to me. I find MS3 incredibly useful, even if it's not quite as much eye candy as TouchFlo. So I'm pretty sure I'm not going to use TouchFlo anymore. But never say never!
The problem you are facing with Smart Toggle is likely because MS3T doesn't know to look for TouchFlo as the top window. It only looks for the "classic" Today screen. I can add a feature to consider the TouchFlo screen the "Today" screen. That should fix it.
tony.wheeler said:
Thank you for this (and highlighting it to me from Spb forum). I find the toggle works exactly as designed on my Kaiser - but I am not sure that the smart toggle is correct for me.
It will not at all cycle between the 2 home screens. The behaviour I see is that whenever I press this Smart Toggle (assigned to a physical button) I am taken to the HTC Manilla Home: from within Manilla anywhere else, and also from anywhere in Spb Mobile Shell.
BTW - I am using the Kaiser ROM PDA Corner Xv3 and the latest Spb MS3 (3.0.1 Beta 1 (build 6456))
PS - have you considered a three-way toggler to cycle between Spb Home, Manilla Home and the Today screen? This would merge your Touch Flow Detacher and Mobile Shell Toggler efforts and seems a logical next step unless a problem.
Regards
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tf3d not loading
I'm running wm6.1 / Arrupenthals rom latest V5.9 with SPB 3.0 . After installing I can toggle to Today screen but even though I have TF3D checked in today settings it will not load when it switches from spb to tf3d. It jsut hangs on the HTC icon and tf3d does not load. any ideas?
ps - if I stop spb (shut down- kill program) tf3d loads.
MB3 starts at the begining,,I dont want to
I insatalled MS3 on my X1 but I restarted it, it always started at the begining but I don't want to...could anyone tell me how to disable to start in todays screen ,,I just need the other application start not MB3 and sometimes it stopped working and I should restart it,,I dont know why..plz somebody help me...thanks
Thank You
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First, toggling between the three would be cool, but I just don't have time to work on it. All the source code is available for both projects. If somebody implements this, just give me a little credit! I won't say "no" but I have no plans right now. As much eye candy as TouchFlo 3D was, it just wasn't that useful to me. I find MS3 incredibly useful, even if it's not quite as much eye candy as TouchFlo. So I'm pretty sure I'm not going to use TouchFlo anymore. But never say never!
The problem you are facing with Smart Toggle is likely because MS3T doesn't know to look for TouchFlo as the top window. It only looks for the "classic" Today screen. I can add a feature to consider the TouchFlo screen the "Today" screen. That should fix it.
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Many thanks for the MS3 toggler. I also use your TouchFLO Detacher.
I am also interested in the "feature to consider the TouchFlo screen as the "Today" screen".
Hope we can have this brilliant feature soon.
Thanks again.
okay, so i have downloaded the file, copied into my touch hd, and installed it. and.. whats next? it just says everything installed successfully but whats next? how do I set or toggle the screen? sorry for noob question.
Working great on my Kaiser with MS 3 beta 3, PP+. Smart Toggle great. If it does not have any issue in the next few days, I will contribute. That was my biggest issue with MS 3 (Although I liked that I could get to phone contacts from anywhere just doing the "L" swipe in MS 2 - actually only thing I used in MS2 -... but nothing is perfect), new "show today" widget is an advancement from SPB, but your solution is the best for hardware buttoned phones as the kaiser.
Working great. Made MS 3 perfect. Dropped you a beer, thanks.