First Time Flasher GPS question - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I have recently flashed my ROM with dcd 3.2.6 which everything is working great. The only question i really have is how much does the radio have to do with the GPS working faster. It generally takes about 10 minutes before the seeking is done with Google maps, and i was curious if going to a newer radio would effect that at all? Any tips or thoughts would be great.
Thanks

Th3m3 said:
I have recently flashed my ROM with dcd 3.2.6 which everything is working great. The only question i really have is how much does the radio have to do with the GPS working faster. It generally takes about 10 minutes before the seeking is done with Google maps, and i was curious if going to a newer radio would effect that at all? Any tips or thoughts would be great.
Thanks
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What radio did you flash to the phone?
Edit: I see your signature. I would try 3.42.50 if I were you. None of them are really exceptionally fast from what I've tried... but it does work.

nitro66215 said:
What radio did you flash to the phone?
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I kept the stock rom 3.37.20 that i had from the last ALLTEL release ROM update. I will try going to the newer radio and see if that improves it any.
Thanks

I updated to the newest radio and it worked great not only is it a touch faster but i was actually able to use the gps inside my office where as i was not able to before.

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No2Chem's Wm6.1 Rom Get It here

This is No2Chem's new WM6.1 Rom for the Titan. I can say this rom is about 20% to 40% faster than any rom ever seen for the Titan. GPS works!!! Thanks No2Chem!!!!!
Flash ON!
Now for the link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=172502&posted=1#post172502
wow, wow is all I can say, Yall work fast.
Edit: Thank you! No2Chem and DCD do so much for this Titan community.
Wow. Thank you so much. Flashing it right now!
Thanks,
Modding for custom use now.
XV6800?
Mikee4fun said:
This is No2Chem's new WM6.1 Rom for the Titan. I can say this rom is about 20% to 40% faster than any rom ever seen for the Titan. GPS works!!! Thanks No2Chem!!!!!
Flash ON!
Now for the link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=172502&posted=1#post172502
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Will this work with Verizon?
I'm a Verizon user too.
Will this work or what mods need to be done?
Are we needing to save our info again? IE ESN/MSD/ etc?
Is this carrier specific? Will it work for Alltel?
bojangler said:
Is this carrier specific? Will it work for Alltel?
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It's made for Sprint.
But, it works on Verizon!
I came from unlocker 2.40, radio 3.27.00, dcd 2.0.0, on my xv6800.
I was able to place calls, receive calls, use data, and use GPS, all right after the flash. IOTA works too. The Sprint brand shows in a few places, but hasn't shown to adversely affect anything I've tried to do (haven't tried and don't use MMS). Apparently there's an app that fixes all branding too, although I haven't tried it.
I never had an akey in EPST to begin with, so I can't say if others will be able to flash as easily as this (since I'm not sure if that's changed by the radio or OS roms).
Need to play a while to see what's improved/deteriorated.
Thanks a ton for all your hard work no2chem!
FZ1 said:
But, it works on Verizon!
I came from unlocker 2.40, radio 3.27.00, dcd 2.0.0, on my xv6800.
I was able to place calls, receive calls, use data, and use GPS, all right after the flash. IOTA works too. The Sprint brand shows in a few places, but hasn't shown to adversely affect anything I've tried to do (haven't tried and don't use MMS). Apparently there's an app that fixes all branding too, although I haven't tried it.
I never had an akey in EPST to begin with, so I can't say if others will be able to flash as easily as this (since I'm not sure if that's changed by the radio or OS roms).
Need to play a while to see what's improved/deteriorated.
Thanks a ton for all your hard work no2chem!
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Guess I know what I'M doing tonight....."Sorry honey...gotta love the phone first"
Nice
Nice and quick rom. Got stuck in bootloader for quite awhile when loading. Sucks up quite abit of memory compared to DCD's new rom tho. Good work!
so whats up with this new rom? 6.1 huh? so whats on the inside???

Has anyone extracted the gps stuffs?

Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
Won't work you need the new radio, and rom.
Mine is working without any problems, and the radio is great.
stevenewjersey said:
Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
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well, the new radio is a BETA after all. and i havent had any problems with it. The new radio is what enables the GPS in the phone, and the 3.16 based roms have the drivers that are needed for gps. so these go hand in hand. you need em both for gps.
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Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
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No problems for me, works great and couldn't be happier with everyones work on getting the GPS and Rev A to work. I appreciate all the work that people are putting in to get all this going. I guess you'll just have to wait until your carrier releases their updated ROM with GPS enabled, maybe that will be less problematic for you.
I am betting when this is released there will be a newer radio, this is a beta and the radio is at least a couple of months old, I am sure they have done some tweaking since then, at least if they are seeing the same issues one would hope they have tweaked a bit more here and there.
Same goes for the rom piece of it it is an old beta as well they are both 2 months old, so whatever Sprint and/or HTC has been doing for the past 2 months is unknown.
You Sprint folks should all be happy to me it seems Sprint is the only provider that gives half a rats ass. On Telus the last rom came out back in the beginning of July and none of the other Canadian providers that carry this phone have provided any updates whatsoever.
As Fallingup said this is a beta and the issues we are seeing from the radio patch exhibit normal BETA behavior...
Hell even HTC is convinced the Radio isn't ready for Primetime and keep delaying the release! That says to me they have hit some roadblocks they are having trouble dealing with.
It would not surprise me at all if HTC consciously decided to leak this radio so that the community could take a crack at solving those issues and give them some ideas on how to fix the patch.
I am hoping someone in the community is looking at this beta version of radio and looking for ways to improve that....
Cause I'm betting the second someone can tweak that radio to work well, HTC will take that file and use it as a roadmap for an official release!
stevenewjersey said:
Lets face it. The new radio sucks horribly. The leaked Rom is very bad as well. Countless problems for almost everyone. Has anyone extracted the gps drivers? I would kill to go back to the 2.17 sprint rom with the gps added on.
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Some people have terrrible issues. Some have none at all. I have no problems at all. This is the best set up I have had. I am using the new Radio and Bootloader with a variation of DCD 2.2.0 ROM. Working great. What specific ROM are you using?
scrosler said:
Some people have terrrible issues. Some have none at all. I have no problems at all. This is the best set up I have had. I am using the new Radio and Bootloader with a variation of DCD 2.2.0 ROM. Working great. What specific ROM are you using?
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the actual results are somewhere in between...the ones with zero issues either don't use data connect extensively or haven't really run everything through it's paces. How could they the ROM is only a day old! LOL
Others just have issues with the 6.1 OS and still others have issues just flashing. The latter is simply user error and that will always be there no way around that. You have to know those issues will show up even if the perfectly stable ROM gets released.
The Radio is IMO definitly not ready for prime time. between the BT issues, Data Connect and the problem of having to prime the GPS before a navigation software like TomTom can use it there will have to be another update to the radio ROM before we can be sure we gain GPS capability without losing anything else...
Right now Radio appears to be a bit of a tradeoff as opposed to a simple feature addition.
Once an official (as opposed to leaked) radio comes out I think all the REAL problems people are having will go away.
Asphyx said:
Cause I'm betting the second someone can tweak that radio to work well, HTC will take that file and use it as a roadmap for an official release!
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That would be funny as hell. Imagine if they ended up using a Radio that someone here on XDA-Dev was tweaking!! I hope they get commisisons
rajuabju said:
That would be funny as hell. Imagine if they ended up using a Radio that someone here on XDA-Dev was tweaking!! I hope they get commisisons
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As far as I know nobody here on XDA Dev has actually tweaked a Radio. People put together firmware files from other stuff, and bundle them all together, but to actually fix and recompile a radio file goes much deeper than anyone here handles.
I have had only one problem running dcd 2.10 and 2.20. I have run critically low on memory once. This has never happened before.
But as for the radio and OS, I think my call quality is noticably better than with the stock rom or any of dcd's 1.x rom/radio setups that I have tested.
Oh, just FYI, I'm in Utah. I wonder if the radio issues have to do with a difference in radio hardware on the towers in New Jersey.
After reading for several days and hearing the good the bad and the ugly I opted for the straight leaked rom. No unlocking and all that.
Well so far so good. GPS works, RevA not a real difference so far
Fairly stable. Happy with my beta software until the official release
vetvito said:
Won't work you need the new radio, and rom.
Mine is working without any problems, and the radio is great.
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Yup, me too.
As a matter of fact, I'm not going to go to DCD's 2.2.1 until this current flash (on my phone) bombs. 2.2.0 is working great for me.
For those who claim to have no problems...
Try downloading a file larger than 1 MB in PIE or Opera...
The issue has NOTHING to do with DCD's work...
Definitly the Radio...
There only problems I have seen with the 2.2X Roms DCD has put out is some issues with installing programs on the storage card...
But if I know DCD that will be fixed rather quickly.

Reverted Back DCD: 3.1.2 to 3.0.4

I have to give DCD all the credit in the world. His work has been awesome and I really love that he is in this forum working hard all the time. However, I had many problems with 3.1.2 and radio 3.39. Slow GPS among a lot of other things. I am a sprint user and I did everything properly with flashing etc. My phone worked great except for the GPS which was extremely slow. I decided to revert back.
I put virtually all of the blame on radio 3.39. I think that it is still in development therefore it is not ready for release. Also I think that the carrier cabs that need to be installed with 3.1.2 are also an issue.
After reverting back to 3.0.4 and radio 3.35 I can say that things are dramatically improved. My GPS locks in seconds everytime. 3.39 took so long that it was useless. I do not have internet issue nor outlook issues with 3.35 either.
So... I suggest that anyone who is having problems with 3.39 go back to 3.35 radio and also back to dcd3.0.4
I highly suggest that you first install the official sprint 3.35 release and make sure you let the customizations run as well for carrier cabs. Then flash 3.0.4. After flashing do a hard reset to make sure all kinks are out. Stick with radio 3.35 and 3.0.4 if you are having issues with 3.39 and 3.1.2.
I hope any of this made sense. If you do not know what 3.39, 3.35, 3.0.4, or 3.1.2 means then dont touch a thing
I have to give DCD all the credit in the world. His work has been awesome and I really love that he is in this forum working hard all the time. However, I had many problems with 3.1.2 and radio 3.39. Slow GPS among a lot of other things. I am a sprint user and I did everything properly with flashing etc. My phone worked great except for the GPS which was extremely slow. I decided to revert back.
I put virtually all of the blame on radio 3.39. I think that it is still in development therefore it is not ready for release. Also I think that the carrier cabs that need to be installed with 3.1.2 are also an issue.
After reverting back to 3.0.4 and radio 3.35 I can say that things are dramatically improved. My GPS locks in seconds everytime. 3.39 took so long that it was useless. I do not have internet issue nor outlook issues with 3.35 either.
So... I suggest that anyone who is having problems with 3.39 go back to 3.35 radio and also back to dcd3.0.4
I highly suggest that you first install the official sprint 3.35 release and make sure you let the customizations run as well for carrier cabs. Then flash 3.0.4. After flashing do a hard reset to make sure all kinks are out. Stick with radio 3.35 and 3.0.4 if you are having issues with 3.39 and 3.1.2.
I hope any of this made sense. If you do not know what 3.39, 3.35, 3.0.4, or 3.1.2 means then dont touch a thing
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Dude hold on a sec....before you go scaring everyone away from 3.1.2 and 3.39.10....did you say you were on Sprint and had extremely slow GPS?
Sprint users have NO excuse for not having instant locks with GPS. If you would have read the stickies at the top of this forum you would have found your answer for INSTANT GPS locks. It has nothing to do with what rom/radio you're using and EVERYTHING to do with what PRI version you have.
Personally, I have found absolutely nothing wrong with 3.1.2 and 3.39.10 and have used both for a while (no longer using 3.1.2 due to testing new builds, but STILL using 3.39.10).
A little reading of the important stuff goes a long way...
Not trying to scare anyone at all. I just saw that there were some posts about gps stuff and problems. I am in now way taking anything away from dcd or his kitchens/roms. DCD knows that I am a big fan of his and I have also tested his stuff. I am just trying to help those who are having issues, that is all.
Just the same way that we all have different programs that suit our needs, each of the current DCD Roms and other radio options offers some balance to some, and has drawbacks for others.
Some Roms have more beta feel, which gives some an edge and functionality that they can use. Some can't live with the buggy stuff (or figure out workarounds) so they keep what is familiar. This stuff is fun, lets keep it that way and let people brick their phone if they are talented enough to do it.
I went back to 304 myself because i couldn't get NoData working on 312. sounds like a chump reason but at 12$ a mb its a very important program to me. I kept radio 3.39 and have never had trouble with the GPS. Infact, when I compare the acquisition time of the titan to my Garmin Rhino and previous GPS units I'm still amazed at how fast all of the radio ROMs pick up GPS. Its totally comparable to a dedicated GPS unit. However, I'm on Telus.
All of the roms DCD has produced have been far better than stock, so this is in no way a complaint! Keep up the good work guys.
Ps. Is there a NoData like program that works on 3.12?
i've mentioned this before, but while 3.12 and radio 3.39 seem solid, i have experienced the same things. My GPS takes 5-7 minutes to lock, and when it does, it's normally 1/2-1 mile off. I didn't have these issues when i was with 3.04 and 3.37 (Alltel user here), but no complaints, the rest seems solid, so i've lived with GPS since i upgraded.
Like I said in the other thread...we've been working on a gps fix. Testing it now.
Yea I was going to test the GPS fix for 3.39 but I had to go back because I need the GPS too much.
gc14 said:
Like I said in the other thread...we've been working on a gps fix. Testing it now.
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I guess people dont want to read you lol
Thanks for the info!
Yea I was going to test the GPS fix for 3.39 but I had to go back because I need the GPS too much.
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Dude...you have Sprint!! You don't need to test that fix, you HAVE a fix that works. It's posted in the GPS sticky thread AND I made another thread dedicated to it....
My Sprint GPS is almost instant with DCD 3.1.2 and I didn't even have to read a sticky
My Sprint GPS is almost instant with DCD 3.1.2 and I didn't even have to read a sticky
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What is your PRI Version in Device Information?
PRI Version: 2.03_003
PRI Version: 2.03_003
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Ahh see...you have the updated PRI...
Now if all the Sprint users complaining about slow GPS would just read my post....
I've been on 3.04 and 3.35 radio for the whole time... I have no issues with anything. Phoen works great, reception is superb.
I'm sure DCD is cooking some crazy ****, and when he comes out with a major upgrade, but I dont see a need to reflash everytime there is a minor change made.
but I dont see a need to reflash everytime there is a minor change made.
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You do read the changelog right? Did you not see the changes made in 3.1.2 from 3.0.4. I wouldn't say they're "minor"
gc14 said:
Ahh see...you have the updated PRI...
Now if all the Sprint users complaining about slow GPS would just read my post....
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I'm running DCD 3.1.2 Radio 3.39.10 and PRI Ver. 2.00_003 and I get almost instant locks on GPS. I have no problems with GPS locking!!! Must be something in your machine.
I'm running DCD 3.1.2 Radio 3.39.10 and PRI Ver. 2.00_003 and I get almost instant locks on GPS. I have no problems with GPS locking!!! Must be something in your machine.
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....... huh?

Athena 1.58 Radio upgrade

******WARNING YOU MUST HAVE THE UNLOCKER APPLIED**************
I have SPL3.5 and managed to extract the Radio from Taxists latest Rom , which I believe is from the 7510'
It worked for me so here it is if you are game
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hy0rbt03imoov3i/U4pyCBWP_o/Athena Stuff/radio-1.58
I used Duttys NBH tool that Irus has linked on the WM6 page
This rom seems to work well on SPL 1.2 and 3.5
Some Roms wont show the H icon eg michyprimas (see here for solution) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2447327&postcount=3
There is also a guide to errors you might receive in a text file included in the rom, that I got from one of the AP4 installations
** adition October 2008 **
Unfortunately Video call is not playing nicely with this radio
I have had to revert to Radio 1.57 to get it working again
Thanks mate.
Will try this out soon.
So far, I'm only observing the data connection capability, and noted that the H icons stay there all the time, so internet and email connections no longer has a lag. In other word, both internet and email seems faster with this radio.
I hope this behaviour is stable. Let's continue to observe and see how it goes.
eaglesteve said:
So far, I'm only observing the data connection capability, and noted that the H icons stay there all the time, so internet and email connections no longer has a lag. In other word, both internet and email seems faster with this radio.
I hope this behaviour is stable. Let's continue to observe and see how it goes.
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Glad you found it and I look forward to your assessment
how can I install this on an spl 1.2 system.
tovarish said:
how can I install this on an spl 1.2 system.
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The same as a ROM flash.
It will hard reset, so backup first before upgrading.
Anyone from the US running this radio? is it better than the previous, does it improve battery life/reception/etc?
I would be interested to know if anyone here in the USA has tried this version, On the AT&T network in particular. (I have the 1.57.00 radio currently on US AT&T and it works very well, very rapid Sat Lock on too)
Cheers
BR
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how can I install this on an spl 1.2 system.
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Hi tovarish.
To be sure , I checked the contents of the file and they are the same as in any 1.2 SPL upgrade.
There is also a file walking you through the process and explains any error messages you might get and their solution.
Lenny and Brau, this is the same radio as in taxists latest rom so if any US members have tried it it should work.
I think irus has used it.
Why don't you give it a try and report what you think.
Eaglesteve usually gives a good opinion and workout of apps he tries but of course he is in australia.
I've experienced radio has been excellent and rapid
Toronto based user
All is well with 1.58 Radio, Im using it 2 hours now and I notice the phone's signal bars is always 100%
Im using it with 1.2 spl WM6.1 WWE 1.60 MiChY Full Edition
rvnteck said:
All is well with 1.58 Radio, Im using it 2 hours now and I notice the phone's signal bars is always 100%
Im using it with 1.2 spl WM6.1 WWE 1.60 MiChY Full Edition
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Great to hear it works for a fellow torontite!
still no one from US used this radio?
lennie said:
still no one from US used this radio?
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Why not try out yourself?It is so easy and involves so little effort and time.
- backup using sprite
- flash the new radio and test
- if there is improvement, restore. If not, flash back old radio and restore.
Done.
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Why not try out yourself?It is so easy and involves so little effort and time.
- backup using sprite
- flash the new radio and test
- if there is improvement, restore. If not, flash back old radio and restore.
Done.
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the thing is its not hard to do so, its just that I didn't want to "re-create the wheel", in other words if someone tried it already and it worked or didn't work they could easily relay that info so other's wouldn't have to do it.
I will relay that info so other's in the US won't have to "re-create the wheel": this radio doesn't work in the US. you can try it for yourself, but it didnt' work for me.
My 2 Cents
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the thing is its not hard to do so, its just that I didn't want to "re-create the wheel", in other words if someone tried it already and it worked or didn't work they could easily relay that info so other's wouldn't have to do it.
I will relay that info so other's in the US won't have to "re-create the wheel": this radio doesn't work in the US. you can try it for yourself, but it didnt' work for me.
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While I have not yet tested all radio functions, I can say that it does work on US AT&T. I have not noticed any major diff from Radio v1.57.00 for me (your results may differ from mine, based on carrier & area you live).
Cheers
BR
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the thing is its not hard to do so, its just that I didn't want to "re-create the wheel", in other words if someone tried it already and it worked or didn't work they could easily relay that info so other's wouldn't have to do it.
I will relay that info so other's in the US won't have to "re-create the wheel": this radio doesn't work in the US. you can try it for yourself, but it didnt' work for me.
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It certainly works in the US, on at&t anyway. No differences from 1.57 at all for me.
Thank you for this, I shall give it a try once ive backed up and reflashed. Do we know anything about it? Battery? Signal?
All the best
Jay
I had a slight improvement over radio v1.57.00 in weak areas
Brau0303 said:
While I have not yet tested all radio functions, I can say that it does work on US AT&T. I have not noticed any major diff from Radio v1.57.00 for me (your results may differ from mine, based on carrier & area you live).
Cheers
BR
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wow really, I had no luck with this radio, I'm on AT&T too.
I'll give it a try again.....and I'm feeling I'm gonna have the same result as I had before.....

Upgrading Radios - Is it possible or is it just me?

I recently upgraded from Titan Radio ROM 3.42.30 to Titan Radio ROM 3.42.50 along with DCD 2.3.6.
I noticed my GPS is ALOT more jumpy around buildings when I'm downtown.
Is it possible that an older Radio allows a GPS chip to work better than a newer one? I'm asking because I see alot of people stay with old Radios and I always wonder why.
Anyone at all?
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Anyone at all?
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Not sure. Some say the earlier ones do. You can downgrade anytime. won't hurt any of your other software.
Well, 3.42.50 is ported from a Vogue, so maybe you should try 3.42.40 which is the newest native titan radio.
The radios do not make any difference.... Just find one that "you" perceive to be the best one for you......
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Well, 3.42.50 is ported from a Vogue, so maybe you should try 3.42.40 which is the newest native titan radio.
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Interesting, I just did some more searching and it seems like alot of titan owners are complaining from x.50. Gonna switch to x.40 tonight
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I'm not the only one complaining about x.50 and GPS.
I"ve had the same issue with both .40 and .50. From what I remember, .50 skipped so much in some places that it would lose the satellite lock completely for a few seconds to a minute or more when I was using it while in the car. .40 is a little better, it doesn't seem to lose the lock nearly as much, if at all, but it does seem more "jumpy" than .30 was. I am testing .50 again right now to see if anything has changed.
I started with .30 had decent GPS locks, tho it was never under 2 minutes. .50 next, it's GPS was about the same on lock time but did disconnect from time to time, now on .40, still long locks, and in some cases 10+ minutes before it locks, a lot less disconnects.
Why was it we upgraded from .30? Did .40 or .50 offer anything other than slightly better signal? Where I live I can't tell a difference in signal, it just works. Anywhere in my town, even 8 miles out into the county, it just worked.
What would be any downsides with me rolling back to .30? At least it was more consistent on GPS locks.
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