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i would like to do a little poll to see which rom you people find is the best....most stable fastest rom out now im running dcd 2.2.1 now i know theres been some updates but id like to know what your using... thanks....
oh and how is the nexxvission rom??? im thinking of switching is it true that theres a cube??? and does it work exactly like the touch's cube?
I have rom 2.2.6. Never used other roms. I mean it looks good but I have been having some issues with it, its just that the good are greater than the bad. Also I dont know what to blame on the issues. For example:
Memory card is read whether my 512mb or my 8gb but when I try to play music from the memory card, the phone freezes. I used to make my phone an mp3 player in the car and even with my BT headset. Now I cant really use that functionality. I'm still testing but havent gotten it to work. Luckily this phone resets VERY fast now, WAY faster than it did with WM 6.0, and i'm talking a good 10 second difference minimum. I did have HTC Homeplug and other gadgets installed but I dont remember it ever being this fast since purchase.
I have ran into issues with installing software on memory card to run on phone. I have an 8 gig memory card and I want to run everything on card, I dont think i'll ever take card out and if so, it will be rare. The GPS today gave issues doing this, my AIM software worked but later gave some issues, its hard to say if its me or the rom but I've been successful in past with no freezes when doing these things.
Once again, the GPS, nice color lay out (i picked HTC gray background), faster internet speed, new task manager, etc...all the things you probably benefit from with your rom update keep me holding on while we wait for an official. I am grateful and will not be uninstalling unless its upgrading but just stating what I have seen as my issues with update to 6.1 through custom roms.
DCD 2.x.x - Clean Roms...clean meaning no programs, fast, and they are stable
Nexvisions Hybrid - Based on DCDs roms...few utilities, few programs...most of them everyday...everybody programs...some of them u might not use...per se...i dont use pocket irc...sling player etc.
both roms work very well with gps...ofcourse everybody has different experiences...but i've used both of them and both of them are VERY VERY usefull
on nexvisions rom you get about 16mb free mem after soft reset; on dcd you get about 20mb. (i've gotten 20mb on nexvision by disabling some programs like start menu prog; etc)
Both of them are VERY stable...yes theres a cube in nexvisions rom...it DOES work like touch cube...atleast from what i used and went to [email protected] to check out the touch...VERY VERY similar experience
I'd recommend trying both roms...it just depends on what you use/want
one thing i notice is, a good experience with the dcd ROM 2.1.0
my mogul will be here this week and i want to unlock it and flash the latest gps rom and radio. the ppc will be for sprint. id also like to install a light weight but fast 6.5 rom as well. can you guys point me in the right direction? will the bell 3.42.50 radio work on this phone?
thanks in advance!
anybody???
There's a wiki somewhere but you can use this from over at ppcgeeks.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
This tells you how to do everything.
okay but can you guys recommend a lightweight 6.5 rom?
I alternate between RyanMogul's heavy 6.5 ROM (he makes a light too - I just haven't tried it) and bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM (over at ppcgeeks). Both are great!
I vote for bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM
I vote for ryanmoguls It seems to be there one I always go back to.
You bought a Mogul? Please tell me for less than $25...
If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
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I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
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I don't think you used a good 6.5 if that's the case. After everything is installed on my ROM, I boot with over 25 meg free. At the end of the day, I'm still well above 21.
I'm not saying 6.1 is bad - in fact, I spent a day on DCD 4.1.2 and remembered what good work he did. It's a fantastic ROM, but I have not ever seen that poor memory on 6.5.
unL33T said:
If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
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Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
Showtime7 said:
I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
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I'm not saying I'm as good as DCD; he has waaaay more technical knowledge than I could ever lay claim to. But here you go. My ROM boots on the initial flash in the high 20's of free RAM. Make sure you set this to High Memory Mode under Start -> Settings -> System -> Kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532030
Thanks, I'll try it out tonight and report back.
I just finished a WM 6.1 Build 21042 kitchen. Its pretty straight forward.
So far so good, looks like I was wrong. But I don't know how annoying it will be to have to reset every time I have to use my camera. I'll see how well the memory holds after I get my apps, though with 6.5 as I remember apps are hardly needed, at least not for finger friendliness.
Kwokinator said:
Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
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The newer versions of 6.1 have this as well.
Also, I actually prefer to NOT have that functionality in a ROM because then I can install FTouchFlo and have finger friendly gestures working in almost EVERY program whether it came with the ROM or not. If it's built into the OS it becomes harder to figure out how to make the built in gesture functionality not conflict with FTouchFlo.
It is nice sometimes though to just flash a ROM and have finger gestures right out of the box.
OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
Showtime7 said:
OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Exactly what I experienced in the 6.5 ROMs I tried.
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
If you're needing a simple no frills ROM, Da_G has one in the forum. Here, let me Google that for you:
Da_G Clean ROM
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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I recommend cooking one yourself, with only the apps you want, and none of the ones you don't. hilaireg & Da_G (along with the creators if the kitchen, ervius & bepe) have made it quite easy to do so.
[KITCHEN][WWE][13.06.09]Windows Mobile 6.1 21051 Kitchen for Fuze/TouchPro [GSM]
or, if you prefer 6.5, the ever-build-changing kitchen for that is
[KITCHEN][MULTILANG][18.07.09]Windows Mobile 6.5 23007/21928 Kitchen for Raphael GSM
Trust me, it's not as difficult as it seems (unless you want to get REALLY into it - which is when the fun begins).
lavalamp said:
Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
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The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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Reading Captain Throwback's post has got me considering cooking my own ROM.
The Raphael is a damn fine phone. I've never had an issue with memory or running out of storage but I don't keep too many 'media' type files on the device. In any regard, between Da_G's Plain ROM or cooking your own as the Captain has suggested, you will be heading in the right direction. I had my phone with the stock ROM long enough for the battery to charge then it was flashed. You'll be impressed no matter the direction you choose.
Have fun!
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too.
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Unstable? Latest HTC ROM (from february) is the most stable of all. You'll see what's the meaning of the term "unstable" when you try some of the cooked ROMs, especially 6.5. I've tried at least 5 different cooked ROMs, and after max few days I return to HTC official ROM, because of stability and usability.
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)
treo927 said:
The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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From the sounds of it you have a large storage card right? Why then waste space for pictures/music etc on the storage card by then going and installing apps on it? The only thing that is used in my devices built in memory is programs, as it should be. Use the 300 MB on board memory to fill up with all the pointless apps you want and store all data on a memory card. Programs will run faster from on board memory, plus a lot of chefs "modularise" prgrams that are installed on the device and therefore they use the virtual memory a lot more efficiently.
I would liken the way I compartmentalise my phone as being an install on a computer:
"C:" Drive for main OS and programs
"D:" Drive for documents etc
This means that you change out the OS without losing all your data. If you then use things like UC when you install a ROM cooked by a chef on here, you can flash your device 10 times a day and each time within 10-15 minutes of flashing the ROM you will be fully up and running like you hadnt even changed the os!!
For example, I am a chef (a beginner in the grand scheme of things) but when I am cooking a new ROM I can flash my device as fast as I can cook a new ROM (Bughunting is a nightmare!) but EVERY time I flash, I have my activesync running, my personal IMAP email running, my WIFI access points for home and work set up, my GPRS settings set up and extra cabs installed and my Owner information imported, and all of that happens as I install the ROM. Only thing I have to manually do is sync the clock (only cos I cant be bothered to get that working automatically!)
As for youtube, most, if not all the ROMs cooked up here have the latest HTC youtube app installed (I wouldnt bother with the official youtube app as it has less functionality)
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At0mAng said:
Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)
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This is the guy who first got me into cooking properly with his old 6.1 kitchen Cheers At0mAng!
Closing thread guys... Rom preference is all personal preference.. Please flash roms and see what fits you best
Peace,
Joshua
Is there any rom that has androkidd cooked in and set as the default from the get go? Ive tried the search but alas it was of no help.
Don't think so, Though i am planning to make a ROM with PointSense, wich is better than androkidd imo.
Well i guess that would work too. Really i just need to get rid of that dreadful winmo interface. I cant take it anymore I need a better UI. Any ideas on when you plan on making that rom?
you come across the win mo interface only if you use titanium versions of the different roms here. i recommend you try a sense 2.1 or 2.5 rom since an android stand alone rom doesn't seem to be quite around the corner and you hardly have to deal with the win mo interface. i for one am using energy roms and i am quite happy with them and the interface.
Cheers,
alc
Im currently using phoenix2 and it does look nice but i just dont like the drag bar at the bottom and the home screen is just so cluttered.
Of course theres the option of installing all these things separately but im sure that something would get broken along the way.
So hopefully someone will make a rom with pointsense or androkkid as the default.
Right now I'm running the stock Sprint ROM. All I really want to change (man I'm getting boring in my old age!) is the TouchFlo version. I reallllly want the calendar tab on the main screen.
Do I have to flash my entire ROM to get that or can you just upgrade/install over the old TouchFlo? I search the forums here with a variety of key words but everything I found pointed back to ROMs of some sort.
Thanks for the help guys!
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Right now I'm running the stock Sprint ROM. All I really want to change (man I'm getting boring in my old age!) is the TouchFlo version. I reallllly want the calendar tab on the main screen.
Do I have to flash my entire ROM to get that or can you just upgrade/install over the old TouchFlo? I search the forums here with a variety of key words but everything I found pointed back to ROMs of some sort.
Thanks for the help guys!
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You can probably upgrade to a later version of TF3D, but truth be told... it would me much simpler to flash since there is a slew of things that need to be done to get the extra tabs and such. Besides, flashing to something like the NRG roms will boost your TP's performance... a lot!
Do you have any suggestions?
I actually just gave my Touch Pro to my wife... so while *I* have a huge tolerance after years and years of flashing ROMs and tweaking phones for the hiccups that come with such matters, I don't want to put her in a position of having to trouble shoot her phone without me or it crashing on her.
She's all about juicing up her phone with a new ROM but I don't want it to be horrible experience for her.
I was looking, earlier today, at NFSFAN's rom. It seems to be very well received although it looked like people were having trouble with the push-based syncing (which would be a deal breaker since her phone syncs to Google)
jfitzpatrick said:
Do you have any suggestions?
I actually just gave my Touch Pro to my wife... so while *I* have a huge tolerance after years and years of flashing ROMs and tweaking phones for the hiccups that come with such matters, I don't want to put her in a position of having to trouble shoot her phone without me or it crashing on her.
She's all about juicing up her phone with a new ROM but I don't want it to be horrible experience for her.
I was looking, earlier today, at NFSFAN's rom. It seems to be very well received although it looked like people were having trouble with the push-based syncing (which would be a deal breaker since her phone syncs to Google)
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NFS is usually good... I would try that as well as NRG, Mighty, Vevitto, and probably Juicy. Hope that helps...
egzthunder1 said:
You can probably upgrade to a later version of TF3D, but truth be told... it would me much simpler to flash since there is a slew of things that need to be done to get the extra tabs and such. Besides, flashing to something like the NRG roms will boost your TP's performance... a lot!
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How to upgrade it? ive installed the Stock ROM on my TP(GSM) from site sunnysoft.com/htc/ and its kinda flawless and very very fast. I dont wanna change the ROM but i could use the calendar tab from sense 2.1 cos i find it very handy.. is there a way to add it to my tf3d ?
I tried to install sense 2.1 from cabs on this ROM but had the problem updating weather so i dropped it, besides that the ROM wasnt working so smoothly anymore.
akires said:
How to upgrade it? ive installed the Stock ROM on my TP(GSM) from site sunnysoft.com/htc/ and its kinda flawless and very very fast. I dont wanna change the ROM but i could use the calendar tab from sense 2.1 cos i find it very handy.. is there a way to add it to my tf3d ?
I tried to install sense 2.1 from cabs on this ROM but had the problem updating weather so i dropped it, besides that the ROM wasnt working so smoothly anymore.
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Stuff for Sense/TF3D tend to write and drop a bunch of files under the Windows directory, which (under most cases) will slow down your device. So, getting it pre-cooked is always better as it is cleaner than the installation.