Hi All,
I had on my Athena the previous Michy Rom (2.04 with SPL 1.20) and when I saw the new version (4.00 with SPL 3.5):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371
I decided to install it. Like an idiot, I did not pay attention to the fact the SPL was different... I started the flash process and when I realized my error, it was too late.
The upgrade did not completed (as expected :-()) and now I am stuck with a corrupted bootloader screen, so I can't proceed (the device does not boot so I can't access ActiveSync).
Any way forward? Thanks for any hints!
Anubis
Update - I just tried this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326953
but without success. I get an Error [260] and the entire process stops.
Anubis1965 said:
Hi All,
I had on my Athena the previous Michy Rom (2.04 with SPL 1.20) and when I saw the new version (4.00 with SPL 3.5):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371
I decided to install it. Like an idiot, I did not pay attention to the fact the SPL was different... I started the flash process and when I realized my error, it was too late.
The upgrade did not completed (as expected :-()) and now I am stuck with a corrupted bootloader screen, so I can't proceed (the device does not boot so I can't access ActiveSync).
Any way forward? Thanks for any hints!
Anubis
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look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405814
lakeman said:
look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405814
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I have seen that thread. But the problem is different. I have also tried to reload a vanilla WM6 ROM but I cannot go past the corrupted bootloader part...
Anubis
Anubis1965 said:
I have seen that thread. But the problem is different. I have also tried to reload a vanilla WM6 ROM but I cannot go past the corrupted bootloader part...
Anubis
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When you are in bootloader(three coloured screen) what do you see?
remove sim and sd card , hold camera button all the way in and press the reset button(on the back close to the battery cover)
If you see in bootloader mode ID showing somenting different than ATHE100 the solution is HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405814
I had the same problem! whell restart your pc and then connect the device to it. now start flashin an spl 1.20 rom. i did it and it worked! I hope i works for you too.
Cheers, Hirad
lakeman said:
When you are in bootloader(three coloured screen) what do you see?
remove sim and sd card , hold camera button all the way in and press the reset button(on the back close to the battery cover)
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Thanks - already tried!
When I reset/hard-reset the phone (tried many ways) I see a garbled boot image (with random pixels here and there)... It is definitively not the usual bootloader with the information about the various ROM components and the "USB" text at the bottom.
Anubis
Solution!
I managed to do the same thing - had an old AP ROM with SPL 1.2 already installed then earlier today I tried to upgrade to the new Mitchy R4 SPL 3.5. I thought my Ameo was bricked, but after some pain it is now working again.
Here is what I did:
1) Enter bootloader mode using the very tricky Camera+Volume+Reset method.
2)
Follow exactly the steps in post 33 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387454&highlight=mtty&page=4
Note, I'm running Vista so to get the USB option to show in MTTY, I had to first open "Windows Mobile Device Center" in Control Panel then disable the USB.
Also, note you should find your MAC under the battery flap.
3) Now all you need to do is reset, enter the bootloader mode again, and re-try the ROM (PS, make sure you use the correct SPL version!
Hope this helps.
spoonter said:
I managed to do the same thing - had an old AP ROM with SPL 1.2 already installed then earlier today I tried to upgrade to the new Mitchy R4 SPL 3.5. I thought my Ameo was bricked, but after some pain it is now working again.
Here is what I did:
1) Enter bootloader mode using the very tricky Camera+Volume+Reset method.
2)
Follow exactly the steps in post 33 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387454&highlight=mtty&page=4
Note, I'm running Vista so to get the USB option to show in MTTY, I had to first open "Windows Mobile Device Center" in Control Panel then disable the USB.
Also, note you should find your MAC under the battery flap.
3) Now all you need to do is reset, enter the bootloader mode again, and re-try the ROM (PS, make sure you use the correct SPL version!
Hope this helps.
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You are right and this is what sergiopi and I were referring to , specifically this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2154726&postcount=33
We were refering to the whole thread so you could learn the background.
However you are incorrect in your advice about how to enter bootloader
All you need to do is hold in the camera button and reset
spoonter said:
I managed to do the same thing - had an old AP ROM with SPL 1.2 already installed then earlier today I tried to upgrade to the new Mitchy R4 SPL 3.5. I thought my Ameo was bricked, but after some pain it is now working again.
Here is what I did:
1) Enter bootloader mode using the very tricky Camera+Volume+Reset method.
2)
Follow exactly the steps in post 33 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387454&highlight=mtty&page=4
Note, I'm running Vista so to get the USB option to show in MTTY, I had to first open "Windows Mobile Device Center" in Control Panel then disable the USB.
Also, note you should find your MAC under the battery flap.
3) Now all you need to do is reset, enter the bootloader mode again, and re-try the ROM (PS, make sure you use the correct SPL version!
Hope this helps.
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Thanks - you are giving me some hope! I am on a business trip now and my Athena is at home, but I will try that as soon as I am back
Anubis
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Apparently, I'm pretty stupid.
I just got the Cingular 8525; I have spent two hours on this site.
Things I've noticed:
One page says go into bootloader; one page says not to allow usb connections.
I do not know if I am supposed to have my non-Cingular SIM card already in the phone when attempting to do anything.
I have seen connect via USB and use mtty (with what settings do I use when I click on USB from the dropdown menu (if any) and do I connect with mtty via USB in bootloader or when the phone has booted into Windows 5.0 and again what about the non-Cingular SIM card?).
I have flashed my computers BIOS several times but I do not understand how to flash this phone based on the myriad of instructions all over this site (and RFTW did not help which is why I am here with 40000000 questions).
The steps to go from SPL 1.06 to an unlocked SIM/CID phone are?
Things I do understand:
I have SPL 1.06 (I know this from bootloader).
I must downgrade to 1.04 from 1.06 then run the upgrade to 1.06 from the Hermes Upgrade wiki page (I already downloaded all of the Cingular files).
Thanks in advance for any clarification.
I unlocked my 8525 last week, I had bootloader 1.06 so I downgraded to a ROM with boetloader 1.04(you can find it here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades ).. then just follow the instructions in the zip file you downloaded(i used HERM_Unlock_v2a), which are:
1. Enter bootloader mode on your Phone. To do this, simultaneously hold side OK and POWER buttons together and reset with stylus.
[You should see SPL-1.04 on the top of the tri-color screen, if you see SPL-1.06 this unlocker will not work, please wait for the next version]
2. Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
3. Run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe program – this will reflash your phone with a patched radio ROM required to unlock.
4. Wait patiently.
5. Once the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe upgrade completes, it will end up saying "Upgrade Error 114", but the patched radio ROM will be flashed anyway, dont worry about that error!
6. Soft reset with stylus (Device will not be hard reset and no data will be lost)
7. Allow your phone to reboot. Once it has, connect to your PC using Activesync, and copy the HERM_Unlock_v2a.exe program onto your phone. Alternatively, copy it to an SD card and insert into your phone.
8. Run HERM_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone. Wait about 1 minute.
9. You should see a "SUCCESS!" message from HERM_Unlock_v2a.exe, after that soft reset your phone.
10. Process is (hopefully) complete!
11. If the phone requests unlock code when you put a locked SIM, the code is: 22051978
I assume I want go to 1.04 for Cingular which is 1.30.502.1.
What about my SIM card? Is it supposed to be in phone when I run this file? (it's a t-mobile sim).
I assume the activesync connection via usb is okay? I cannot get it to connect (even though the phone is on and booted into Windows 5.0); is this because I have not inserted the SIM card into the phone? Note: after I unplugged the device, setting allow USB connections on the device in the ActiveSync settings, then plugging it back in, it connected via USB in ActiveSync (4.2). However, I just got a box saying the version of ActiveSync is not compatible with this mobile device. This occured after I started the installer and it showing Verifying the information on your PDA phone.
I received an update error 260 since it thinks the phone is not connected via USB (and I noticed the ActiveSync icon in the system tray is gone).
I went to check the M$ page to see if there is a later download; there is not. Then, the AS icon return (trying to update outlook, install nero mobile) so I decided to run the installer again and now sees my current version 1.34.502.1 and I have the option to upgrade ROM
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I unlocked my 8525 last week, I had bootloader 1.06 so I downgraded to a ROM with boetloader 1.04(you can find it here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades ).. then just follow the instructions in the zip file you downloaded(i used HERM_Unlock_v2a), which are:
1. Enter bootloader mode on your Phone. To do this, simultaneously hold side OK and POWER buttons together and reset with stylus.
[You should see SPL-1.04 on the top of the tri-color screen, if you see SPL-1.06 this unlocker will not work, please wait for the next version]
2. Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
3. Run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe program – this will reflash your phone with a patched radio ROM required to unlock.
4. Wait patiently.
5. Once the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe upgrade completes, it will end up saying "Upgrade Error 114", but the patched radio ROM will be flashed anyway, dont worry about that error!
6. Soft reset with stylus (Device will not be hard reset and no data will be lost)
7. Allow your phone to reboot. Once it has, connect to your PC using Activesync, and copy the HERM_Unlock_v2a.exe program onto your phone. Alternatively, copy it to an SD card and insert into your phone.
8. Run HERM_Unlock_v2a.exe on your phone. Wait about 1 minute.
9. You should see a "SUCCESS!" message from HERM_Unlock_v2a.exe, after that soft reset your phone.
10. Process is (hopefully) complete!
11. If the phone requests unlock code when you put a locked SIM, the code is: 22051978
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crazyut said:
I assume I want go to 1.04 for Cingular which is 1.30.502.1.
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right
crazyut said:
What about my SIM card? Is it supposed to be in phone when I run this file? (it's a t-mobile sim).
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doesn't matter
crazyut said:
I assume the activesync connection via usb is okay?
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It is ok, but generally it causes more problems than it helps. Best is to disable the checkbox that says "enable usb connections" on activesync settings and you'll see the icon on the system tray turn gray with a red "X". Then you need to start the RUU when the device is in bootloader mode (tri-color screen). After you have upgrded the rom (or radio rom) you can reenable activesync again if you want.
crazyut said:
I cannot get it to connect (even though the phone is on and booted into Windows 5.0); is this because I have not inserted the SIM card into the phone?
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SIM card and activesync have nothing to do.
crazyut said:
I received an update error 260 since it thinks the phone is not connected via USB (and I noticed the ActiveSync icon in the system tray is gone).
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Icon was gone because RUU checks your current rom version using activesync and then kills it an put device in bootloaer mode. If RUU cannot kill activesync correctly errors happen:
You will avoid the 260 error if you disable usb connections on desktop activesync as I told you, and start the upgrade in bootloader mode... only difference you'll notice is that RUU will not report your current rom version.
Hey. I left the RUU software running (the 25+ minute variety) while I went to buy a case and care charger. I came back and evidently, the phone had rebooted because, it is at the Windows Mobile screen to setup the Windows Mobile device. I assume it is safe to do the 2a software. After that, am I able to update the RUU back to 1.06?
Thanks for your help, Milan and pof!
I rebooted into bootloader to confirm successful downgrade to 1.04 from 1.06 and it was. The RUU software from the upgrade page for Cingular appears to have been successful.
I am now going to attempt the 2a software.
Yes, now follow all the instructions on sim&cid unlocker v2a, and when finished, flash the cingular 1.34 rom again.
pof said:
Yes, now follow all the instructions on sim&cid unlocker v2a, and when finished, flash the cingular 1.34 rom again.
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It's now on the upgrade screen to Radio 1.16.00.69 but it does not show the previous version. Is this normal? I have not pressed upgrade yet. I have the splitter with the AC and USB cables into the phone (currently in bootloader mode at SPL-1.04).
yes, it is normal... i told you before:
pof said:
RUU checks your current rom version using activesync
[...]
start the upgrade in bootloader mode... only difference you'll notice is that RUU will not report your current rom version.
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pof said:
yes, it is normal... i told you before:
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I got the 114 error as promised in the readme. I exited the program using the EXIT button.
The next step:
6. Soft reset with stylus (Device will not be hard reset and no data will be lost)
On the phone display, it still shows Upgrade Radio Stack Please Wait..
The soft reset is the simultaneous OK and Power?
I just took the battery out and reset; it appeared to go okay. I copied the exe file to the phone and was able to run the file as in the readme. I then reset the phone, put in the t-mobile sim and it works.
Thanks much to POF and Milan for their straightforward approach. You can use this thread as a tutorial!
Is there any reason I should add the 1.06 file back to the unlocked 8525?
SPL 1.06 to SPL 1.04 back to SPL 1.06?
Hi:
I followed pof's (with pof's help) tutorial on how to unlock the Cingular 8525. I am currently at SPL 1.04 (downgraded form SPL 1.06) and had run the v2a software to unlock. It works great with T-mobile (I was a Cingular customer but made the switch).
My questions are:
Is there any reason to go back SPL 1.06?
If I do go back to SPL 1.06, it does not affect the unlock status of the SIM or CID?
I still am confused about the Radio and what that does in relation to the CID, SIM, or phone. I assume the Radio is affected the SPL version that you have?
I have tried to peruse through various pages regarding downgrading (the 13 page thread for example) to see if that question is answered.
The radio ROM controls the GSM/GPRS/UMTS hardware in your hermes. You cannot independently upgrade it unless you are running SPL 1.04. There is no reason IMO to go to any other bootloader version.
Sleuth255 said:
The radio ROM controls the GSM/GPRS/UMTS hardware in your hermes. You cannot independently upgrade it unless you are running SPL 1.04. There is no reason IMO to go to any other bootloader version.
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Oh okay, that clears up yet something else I did not understand
Thanks for the tip on the bootloader version; I will leave it at SPL 1.04.
That being said, I am currently in the middle of the Radio 1.20 thread; I have not finished reading it yet (I can only do so much at work before people wonder what I am doing). Have you upgraded to Radio 1.20? If not, what radio are you running and what do you think of its stability and/or functionality?
Thanks!
I'm running the 1.20 radio. It and the 1.35 TyTN ROM are the best combination I've used so far.
Ok, I've been trying to update my 8525 for hours...here is my problem. First, I tried to HardSPL-v7 but I kept getting an "Error [240] File open". I think this is preventing me from doing any ROM update. When I try to run the Cingular ROM update activesync shuts down and I get a connection error, I think it is "error [260]". I have wiped or cleaned out my 8525 so that I am back to day one. I have tried both ROM updates on 2 separate computers and I get same error messages on both computers. I have searched the Wiki's but have found nothing, so please help. As you can tell, I am a virgin to ROM updates so please go gently.
I should add, my present ver. ROM AKU 2.3 (1.34.502.7018.01H) SPL 1.06 IPL 1.01. Radio is 1.16.
have you taken a look at my Safe WM5 Upgrade Guide??
If you follow this guide EXACTLY, you should be fine.
mrvanx said:
have you taken a look at my Safe WM5 Upgrade Guide??
If you follow this guide EXACTLY, you should be fine.
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I have, I have even tried the mtty "fix" but I had problems with that as well. I get a modem connection screen but there is nothing about a USB connection.
Bit more info would be nice, which ROM are downloading, and where from??
Also what procedure are you doing to update?? EXACT info please.
mrvanx said:
have you taken a look at my Safe WM5 Upgrade Guide??
If you follow this guide EXACTLY, you should be fine.
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Ok, I just tried it 2 more times, Hard-SPL. It flashes to the 8525 and goes into bootloader and shows the following "HERM100 IPL-SSPL by Des HERM100 SPL-1.09.ds" at this point activesync 4.5 shuts down the 8525 is stuck in bootloader (it never reboots) and after a few minutes I get "Error [260] Upated Error". Hard SPL shuts down and the 8525 is stuck in bootloader mode. At this point I have been disconnecting the USB cable and doing a soft reset, once the phone is on, I go into bootloader and the old info shows up SPL 1.06 and IPL 1.01.
Let me have a think, firstly do you have the latest versions of the .net framework installed?
I was able to finally run HardSPLv7, I had to do it on another computer. Now, I would like to update to RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe. I assume I should use the same computer that I used to successfully run HardSPL. Do I need to rebuild the rom file with RUUWrapper.exe (CustomRUU by olipro) & Dutty's Good NBH Tool, before running the RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe update?
mrvanx said:
Let me have a think, firstly do you have the latest versions of the .net framework installed?
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I have .Net 1 thru 3.5 (pre-release) installed on the computer that I can not get to run any ROM updates.
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compudds said:
I was able to finally run HardSPLv7, I had to do it on another computer. Now, I would like to update to RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe. I assume I should use the same computer that I used to successfully run HardSPL. Do I need to rebuild the rom file with RUUWrapper.exe (CustomRUU by olipro) & Dutty's Good NBH Tool, before running the RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe update?
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Yes if you carry on the guide past flashing hardspl you will get the radio updated aswell.
Can i ask, what is different on the computer you used???
mrvanx said:
Yes if you carry on the guide past flashing hardspl you will get the radio updated aswell.
Can i ask, what is different on the computer you used???
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Off hand, the major difference would be Intel (worked) vs. AMD (failed) but I doubt that is the problem, you would be flooded with questions due to so many computers that have AMD chips. The USB cable was the same as well. I'll have to think about that...
Definatly check your "failed" computer is up to date with .net and everything else, most likely a software problem.
I have this problem as well..
AT&T 8525 windows moble 6 trying to install the hardspl v7.
v3.5 and 3.0 .net framework.
the RUUwrapper program gets to the 'verifiying info' screen then give me an erroe 240 message. 'the update utility can not open the requested file.'
any help would be great. Looking to add the touch it interface.
thanks,
Mike
Read the post Hard SPL at the top of this forum and go to page 116 ( I believe its post #1160) and use the sd card method. You don't need to use the pc at all. I generally flasah ALL os's using the sd card method as it seems to be safer then using the usb method. No "sync errors" to deal with.
Cheers...
I have the exact same problem..
When it goes to tri-color screen, the USB connection goes off and windows will pop up the search for driver dialogue box.. then afterward another dialogue box will appear saying Error [260].
I tried restarting my pc and device (even removing the battery) but still failure
Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
blackphnx said:
I have the exact same problem..
When it goes to tri-color screen, the USB connection goes off and windows will pop up the search for driver dialogue box.. then afterward another dialogue box will appear saying Error [260].
I tried restarting my pc and device (even removing the battery) but still failure
Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
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I loaded it thru the sd card just as the post above suggested. It loaded the hardspl just fine. My PPC seems to run faster as well.
Thanks for the help! it is much appreciated.
blackphnx said:
I have the exact same problem..
When it goes to tri-color screen, the USB connection goes off and windows will pop up the search for driver dialogue box.. then afterward another dialogue box will appear saying Error [260].
I tried restarting my pc and device (even removing the battery) but still failure
Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
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One thing that i have learned from flashing my 8525 is to remove any USB device except the 8525. This has worked for me.
swimmy said:
One thing that i have learned from flashing my 8525 is to remove any USB device except the 8525. This has worked for me.
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But my mouse is on USB. I might try on different computer and post back the results.
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I tried using my friend's laptop and it installed without a problem. I think the issue is with the .NET framework. I installed the latest one before flashing and it worked fine. Hmmm.. Im not sure about this tho.
Hello.... Try the sd card method. You don't need the computer...
Sorry if I sound condescending, but, I seem to find a lot of people saying that they have sync problems. Solution, Take the pc out of the equation (except to load files onto sd card). It is SOOO much safer then using the pc, no "sync" problems, no chance of usb being disconnected, reset button being hit or , worst case scenario, power failure...
You have to either have little or no battery power or MANUALLY hit the reset button with the stylus to stop the flash...
And thats my 2 cents....
Refer to post #13 to find out how to use sd card method to flash hard spl...
Cheers...
sd card method???
how?
Ok I have searched the forums pretty hard the last couple of days, and I have not found anyone that has the same issue as mine. It's not too big of a deal as everything operates but it is an issue all the same. This is all of course after I have succesfully ran HARD SPL v7 and upgraded to Black 3.0.1. Basically I decided to use POF's SuperCid Unlocker 3a (yes I know if I had HARD SPL 7 then why go through the trouble of Unlocking my CID, let's call it a need to mess with things) and everything went succesful. Then after the fact I read that it is still good even if you have SuperCID to upgrade the SPL to 2.10 and have read some peoples signatures and it appears that they have succesfully done this. Here is my issue;
When I run the CustomRUU it autodetects my SPL no problems, HARD-SPL? is checked, everything seems to go fine until it gets to the boot loader, once it is there, the progress bar pops up, zings to 100% and then reboots, cool? no because it didn't actually upgrade anything everything is still the same. Ok, so I tried the format SD card and rename *.nbh file to HERMIMG.nbh and put only it on the card, when I go to bootloader it does a quick flash to the screen like it recognizes the image but then goes to boot loader and nothing changes (the flash is so quick I can't even read whatever message it may be showing). I have tried pretty much every flashing method I can come across. MTTY wont recognize that I even have a USB port so I have been unable to try that method. So two questions:
I have SuperCID, so should I continue to even bother to get to 2.10?
If so, is there anything else I can try? Or do I need to get MTTY to work and try that as that is really the only thing left?
Thanks for any and all help anyone can provide.
PuckX said:
Ok I have searched the forums pretty hard the last couple of days, and I have not found anyone that has the same issue as mine. It's not too big of a deal as everything operates but it is an issue all the same. This is all of course after I have succesfully ran HARD SPL v7 and upgraded to Black 3.0.1. Basically I decided to use POF's SuperCid Unlocker 3a (yes I know if I had HARD SPL 7 then why go through the trouble of Unlocking my CID, let's call it a need to mess with things) and everything went succesful. Then after the fact I read that it is still good even if you have SuperCID to upgrade the SPL to 2.10 and have read some peoples signatures and it appears that they have succesfully done this. Here is my issue;
When I run the CustomRUU it autodetects my SPL no problems, HARD-SPL? is checked, everything seems to go fine until it gets to the boot loader, once it is there, the progress bar pops up, zings to 100% and then reboots, cool? no because it didn't actually upgrade anything everything is still the same. Ok, so I tried the format SD card and rename *.nbh file to HERMIMG.nbh and put only it on the card, when I go to bootloader it does a quick flash to the screen like it recognizes the image but then goes to boot loader and nothing changes (the flash is so quick I can't even read whatever message it may be showing). I have tried pretty much every flashing method I can come across. MTTY wont recognize that I even have a USB port so I have been unable to try that method. So two questions:
I have SuperCID, so should I continue to even bother to get to 2.10?
If so, is there anything else I can try? Or do I need to get MTTY to work and try that as that is really the only thing left?
Thanks for any and all help anyone can provide.
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Did you look on the bootloader screen to see if your SPL changed? To my knowledge the only place you can see it is in the bootloader screen (tri-color screen) And flashing Olipro's Hard SPL only takes a couple seconds so it sounds to me like it is working as designed.
Or are you trying to flash a different rom? If so then try deleting everything you have in the directory you are using and re-downloading. You might have over-written the file you want to flash with the HardSPL one. You shouldn't be using the hard spl wrapper to flash a rom in any case, i believe that is mentioned in bold at the top of the Hard SPL thread.
Ok nevermind I was able to get it to work and MTTY was the answer. This is the 2 steps I had to follow:
From the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
sp3dev said:
Hi. I`ve finally found the way to connect mtty and run rom update utility in Vista. tested on rtm 6000.
First of all, connect your device when it`s in bootloader.
next, open Windows Mobile Device Center and in connection settings uncheck Allou USB Connections.
next, goto contol panel-administrative tools-services and start windows mobile device connectivity and windows mobile device 2003 connectivity
next, goto device manager and find your device and update the driver to the one from AS 4, i attached it, wceusbsh.inf.
then, kill wmdc.exe with any taskmanager
You are Ready. run ruu or connect MTTY. I guess that vista default driver uses another port, not WCEUSBSH001, that`s why we have to use the old driver.
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Then Do This:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG
Flashing SPL-1.01 MFG instructions
Put hermes in bootloader mode (side ok + power button + softreset)
Connect Hermes to computer using USB cable.
Open mtty.exe, select "USB" from the dialog box, then hit Ok.
Hit enter twice and you'll see the "USB>" prompt.
Then type these commands: (note the use of 'lnb*s*')
USB>task 32
Level = 0
USB> lnbs SPL-1.01.nbs 50020000
USB> task 8
Device will reboot after this, with bootloader 1.01-MFG on it.
Once I was able to do all this I was succesfully at 1.01 at which point I ran the Custom RUU and upgrade to 2.10 without issue. Once again all right there in the forums, just had to be pieced together to find a solution.
Thank you all for all your dedication to these projects, you make owning a PDA more fun than I am sure was originally intended. I love messing with things.
I have also attached the necessary files from the original posts to perform this for anyone else facing this issue.
PuckX said:
Ok nevermind I was able to get it to work and MTTY was the answer.
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Cool, glad you got it working
Hi All,
I'm new to the PDA-world and the Hermes. I'm trying to Hard SPL my Hermes, but it fails everytime.
When I run 2.10 - Hard-SPL-V7, it kills activesync and my connection is lost and I get always the message "error 260, Update error".
I have the latest framework edition and tried it on 3 pc's (1 Vista, 2 XP)...
What am I doing wrong?
Hope somebody can help me....
Kind Regards,
Micha
1). dont connect to active sync. open active sync and untick "allow usb connections".
2). put hermes into bootloader and connect to usb.
3). run ruu_wrapper.exe
should update to hard spl....
dont forget to tick "allow usb connections" again or you wnot be able to sync..
error 260 is an open port error.
if you wish to flash new os would advise to use sd card method. its safer than using the computer. just make sure you have greater than 50% battery power. happy flashing
Thnx, will give it a try.
First I have to flash HardSPL before I can flash a new OS, don't I?
yep, sorry, should have said run the ruu_wrapper for hard spl. My bad...
im having the same problem. I also tried the way ultramag recommended but i also received the same ending. After time i try i get the Error 260 Update error. Im running SPL 2.04 and the HTC WM6 rom from the HTC website. Does any one know what the problem is?
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2). put hermes into bootloader and connect to usb.
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NOOOOO, that won't work, you need the SSPL to deploy to the phone, if you're running stock HTC bootloader this won't work at all, otherwise we'd have no need for Hard-SPL
hey olipro, then how would i fix this. Im running the stock rom from the HTC website with no hacks. Im trying to load PDA Corners V9 rom. Any ideas on how to fix? thanks!
Take a peek at the guide i wrote about updating the hardspl. Theres some explanation about why we need to use SSPL and the procedures.
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/hardspl
thats the guide i used. it still gives me the error. I even unchecked "allow connections" cause i read somewhere that that would help.
i did this two days ago on my phone, im running windows vista on my home laptop and got any number of errors and problems trying to do it via sync with the phone (even after reading the vista troubleshooter, with the drivers etc)
What i ended up using was the memory card upgrade, dump the file onto the memory card and go into bootloader with the card installed.
worked fine doing that way, maybe less risky as there is no chance of the usb cable coming out.
just make sure you have a good battery charge on the phone.
Help Help Help w bricked 8525
I got into this position trying to upgrade WM5 to WM6 from HTC site.
Process got to 20% and just stayed there.
I reconnected usb cable and got a vendor id error
Then I get the Error [260]: CONNECTION
I have read a lot of posts and have tried the sd method (although i am not 100% clear) and all i get is the screen with four colors, red, green blue and white.
I believe this is the bootloader? I have downloaded RUU_signed.nbh, renamed it to hermimg.nbh, installed on root of my SD card and held OK, soft reset and power button:
My display reads:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.03
This is where my journey ends.
All post indicate that the device can be reflashed and have the OS reinstalled. I can't get there from here.
Can anyone please help?
blackdog9692 said:
I have read a lot of posts and have tried the sd method (although i am not 100% clear) and all i get is the screen with four colors, red, green blue and white.
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How big is your SD card? Flashing only works with cards <2GB. Also, sometimes certain cards just don't work for flashing, and just swapping to a different card fixes the problem.
I assume you searched the wiki, and found the relevant pages on the Hermes (including SD Card Flashing and other things about flashing/upgrading) there?
Still Lost
My SD is 2GB and I have tried many times but i just keep getting the 4 color screen. rt now when i boot from the SD my screen goes white and displays "Loading..." and then returns to bootloader screen. When i attempt to flash the rom via PC to WM5 or WM6 i get the Error 260, i also get a vendor ID error sometimes.
How can i find the key 8525 thread that i am told has the answer to my delima? I keep picking up bits and pieces but am missing some key steps and tips.
blackdog9692 said:
My SD is 2GB and I have tried many times but i just keep getting the 4 color screen. rt now when i boot from the SD my screen goes white and displays "Loading..." and then returns to bootloader screen.
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That sounds like the SD card is formatted incorrectly. Make sure it's formatted using fat32, nothing else will work.
Still not there from here
Thanks for your help. Before I formatted the SD FAT32, nothing would happen doing the bootloader reset. OK/ON/reset button.
After format and only the hermimg.nbh file renamed as indicated, I then get what looks like the loading process but back to the bootloader screen.
Q1: This is an AT&T 8525, it was perfectly fine before failure from WM5 to WM6 (process froze at 20%), what is the RUU file that I need to put on SD??
Q2: After "Loading ..." I try the WM5 PC upgrade of ROM via USB cable, I get the load process to appear to work but it gets to 1% and the phone reboots and the PC reports error [294]: Invalid vendor ID. If I do this again I will get the Error [260]. Ive repeated the process several times.
Is this the normal course to take or should the "SD Method" (with the WM5 or WM6 RUU.. file) complete the process to a working OS?
Q3: Is my situation hopeless? ATT will take my out of warrantee 8525 and reflash for $129. Reading the threads it seems that like me this can be done by me, this is my desire.
Q4: I still am confused by some basic terms and assumed steps. I dont understand "Hard SPL" or OLI's IPLs/SPLs and when and when to use them.
The newbe guide has been off line. I will look again. Is there a single place to read about "radio PDAs and the 8525 and understand the software build and custom options?
Sy for the long post. But still want to fix if possible or I will be force to mail in for ATT repair.
Thank you all.
blackdog9692 said:
Q4: I still am confused by some basic terms and assumed steps. I dont understand "Hard SPL" or OLI's IPLs/SPLs and when and when to use them.
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Oh boy, you haven't installed HardSPL? You are walking a bit of a line there mate...
HardSPL is a custom boot loader that makes bricking your phone when flashing much harder to do, and helps large amounts in the recovery process if you phone does brick.
Does the phone boot at this point? If so, do not try flashing the phone again. Go get a copy of HardSPL and install it, then try flashing from the SD.
I still wonder why people didn't read before bricking...
Anyway, you should start reading now and wiki is your friend. Your SPL is 2.03, so look at the bottom of the page (there is only one solution till now, so good luck with that):
Code:
1. Boot OS using KITL+PB
2. Do no disconnect your HERMES till the end of the step 6
3. Download SSPL on HERMES by wifi from ie explorer
4. Launch SSPL then flash Hard-SPL from your computer
5. Put your hermes in bootloader mode
6. Flash any radio in NBH format from your computer
Still researching and working this bricked 8525
Thanks for coming to my aide. I believe that I have Hard SPL'd my device. I downloaded Olipro's Hard SPL v7. extracted the RUU_ file and renamed to hermimg.nbh.
I then put it on an SD card and held the keys and reset. The device displayed a white screen and "Loading..." appeared. Afterward the 8525 returned to the stipped boat loader screen and that is where I am now.
Some of the help i receive and read on wiki threads has me confused with what to do next and how "exactly" to do it.
It does seem that I am not alone and people have fixed their phones and the process to do this is on the forum. I'm just still missing something.
Help me further if u can.
Thank you.
blackdog9692 said:
Thanks for coming to my aide. I believe that I have Hard SPL'd my device. I downloaded Olipro's Hard SPL v7. extracted the RUU_ file and renamed to hermimg.nbh.
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FYI: bad form to PM someone and post the same thing here. Keep it in the thread so others can be helped as well.
As I replied in the PM, if I'm understanding your post correctly, the phone boots to the tri-colour screen?
What text is showing on the screen? This will tell if HardSPL is on the phone or not.
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What text is showing on the screen? This will tell if HardSPL is on the phone or not.
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We already know that the phone is without HardSPL, according:
My display reads:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.03
This is where my journey ends.
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There is small chance (read my previous post) to unbrick device with SPL2.03 so better try to get this back from where you take it.
And please, change topic, because this brick isn't HardSPL fault at all.
Edit: oh dear, it's even not your topic ...good game, I'm off
well, so I found out how to fully automate the process. sorry for the waiting, I was busy with life & some diamond and shift stuff
you can now just run an EXE that does all the downgrading and the modelid/wifi restore. no manual lnbs needed.
Description:
this uses a special SSPL, should be also OK in place of the original AthenaWrapper (or Unlocker Step 1), but I recommend you only use it for downgrade purposes.
this package includes:
- NBH to flash back to HardSPL 1.20.Olipro. can be replaced with other SPL NBH's but only with ones that are older than SPL 3.xx are recommended. this is only designed for SPL flash however, do not try other NBH types.
- SSPL which automates the restoring of wifi and modelid, which otherwise would always get corrupt when downgrading from SPL 3.xx. do not try to use another SSPL or you will corrupt your modelid and wifi and you will have to use manual tools (the Athena MAC BIN generator that I wrote & posted earlier) to restore them.
- RUU tailored to these needs. do not try to use another RUU for this purpose. also do not try using this RUU for anything else.
- BIG WARNING: do not even try to run this for any device other than Athena (not even the x7510). (I had to remove all modelid checking.) I do not take responsibility for such moronity (or any other kind of moron actions).
STEP BY STEP:
0. flash AP3newSPL OS image in preparation: http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
1. make sure Athena is running WM and synced with Activesync. do not try entering bootloader mode manually at this point! the way the Downgrader works relies on this.
2. extract the downloaded zip from Attachment to this post, you'll find an SPLDowngrader.EXE inside. run that EXE on your PC, now Athena should go to tricolour screen saying OliNex SSPL.
3. let the RUU flash.
3-TroubleShooting: if the RUU won't see device, uncheck the advanced functionalities in usb-to-pc settings in settings on the Athena.
4. it will reboot and also will hard reset your device. you will need to flash an OS compatible with old SPL now. if you are not sure how to do that, see "Extra help" below. after that, job is done.
5. +1: you should verify the modelid and SPL version is correct (ATHE100 and 1.20.Olipro). see "Extra help" below on how to enter bootloader mode to check.
Extra help: steps to help with flashing an OS if someone never flashed from bootloader before:
0. do not freak out if the OS isn't booting after downgrade. depends on what OS was on it before. maybe you will only get black screen but do not worry, read further:
1. you should manually enter SPL, by holding camera key (ALL THE WAY IN!!) while resetting. hold it until tricolour screen appears.
2. then use some other RUU / ROM package to flash an OS compatible with old SPL. job done.
NOTE 1: if the exe doesn't run then download and install .net framework from microsoft.com.
NOTE 2: if you just want to restore stock SPL, you must do it this way:
1. flash with this downgrader, with unchanged package.
2. flash OS compatible with old SPL 1.20.Olipro. this can be a stock OS.
3. use usual methods to restore stock SPL. this must be the last step, run only after you've restored stock OS!!!
Planned:
- dedicated stock SPL downgrade package
- dedicated SPL 3.50 upgrade package
these are all available already, just need userfriendly EXE package.
Tested and working great. Excellent Job as usual.
Thank you
Dear god thank you. Does this mean that our lords and lady of ROM cooking will be gracing us with an AP5 ROM sometime soonish?
Perfect!
Now i can try different ROM´s and be sure, i can downgrade to an other, when i dont like a WM6.1 ROM.
Thx!
Awesome Cmonex - Thanks!
Many thanks, cmonex!
Just for clarification on step 4 above,
Do I enter boatloader manullay after this step?....or once this RUU is flashed and I see the black screen, do I just go ahead and flash my desired OS without entering manual boatloader?
Thank you cmonex for this downgrader!!!!!
Kenjari said:
Just for clarification on step 4 above,
Do I enter boatloader manullay after this step?....or once this RUU is flashed and I see the black screen, do I just go ahead and flash my desired OS without entering manual boatloader?
Thank you cmonex for this downgrader!!!!!
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I edited step 4 to make it more clear - hopefully now you will see what is needed. let me know if still not clear enough.
(P.S: just to give background, RUU without manual bootloader entering will only work if WM is running because the RUU pushes enterbootloader.exe to the device which then puts the Athena in bootloader mode for flash without the user having to do anything. the exe will of course only run if there is an OS running under it.)
Hi Cmonex,
Excellent piece of work as usual, Its pretty clear as it is, You worry to much! Although
sticking with 3.5 for now, we have HTC stock, Ameo WM6 stock, and pawel's good work, and Irus's roms. Why swap?
NOW, have you got XP ROM onto Athena yet, if not why not
regards
Jay
Thanks cmonex, I get it now!
Sorry for the inconvienence!!!!
Thank you for everything ...
Is it possible once made the downgrade back to SPL 3.xx?
If this is so ... How do I do?
Montecristo said:
Thank you for everything ...
Is it possible once made the downgrade back to SPL 3.xx?
If this is so ... How do I do?
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Just reflash with AP 4.0 again, you will have to go through all the upgrade again to get SPL 3.5 back on. Keep in mind if Pawel comes up with a new rom it may well need SPL 3.5 on to use it. I personaly think its worth waiting.
Regards
Jay
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Just reflash with AP 4.0 again, you will have to go through all the upgrade again to get SPL 3.5 back on. Keep in mind if Pawel comes up with a new rom it may well need SPL 3.5 on to use it. I personaly think its worth waiting.
Regards
Jay
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Same here, I do believe it woth waiting. We just need Pawel and AP team to give us an update on their next complete version.
Cheers
Black screen, Someone can help me!
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
When you were in boatloader ..... I thought you were just only suppose to hit soft reset without the camera button.
Try that!
EDIT: I'm sorry panvita I read your post wrong. I thought you already flashed after the downgrade and you were only just checking to make sure you downgraded successfully by going to the boatloader screen. oops!
panvita said:
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
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You need to finish the rest of step 4 (or goto the extra help) and flash a 1.2 Rom
Extra help:
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steps to help with flashing an OS if someone never flashed from bootloader before:
0. do not freak out if the OS isn't booting after downgrade. depends on what OS was on it before. maybe you will only get black screen but do not worry, read further:
1. you should manually enter SPL, by holding camera key (ALL THE WAY IN!!) while resetting. hold it until tricolour screen appears.
2. then use some other RUU / ROM package to flash an OS compatible with old SPL. job done.
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yes please, why can't people read the instructions? :O
thanks to eagle for answering.
[OT]Women secrets...
How to have a REAL secret diary (and hide it to all males): leave it on the living room table and write in RED on the cover "Instructions Manual" [/OT]
My humble observation for AP4 under SPL 1.2.
panvita said:
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
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Before I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, I was able to see the program menu, and it is still AP4 program. I moved up by my finger, and htc flotouch still worked. I thought that I have had a AP4 under spl1.2, what a wonderful supprise. But after I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, what I could do is to go to AP3, and then to AP4, after that, go to downgrader. Finally, I went back to AP4 under spl 1.2. But strange things happened. Each time I soft reset the device, it went to customazation and calibration again. In orther words, I could not restore my backup file which eventually asked for a reset. Finally, I get a conclusion that AP4 cannot be used under spl 1.2 at least the present time. Because I got accustomed with AP4, then I upgraded to AP3 and then AP4 under spl 3.5. Just because my little curiosity, I have travelled around the world twice.
panvita said:
Before I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, I was able to see the program menu, and it is still AP4 program. I moved up by my finger, and htc flotouch still worked. I thought that I have had a AP4 under spl1.2, what a wonderful supprise. But after I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, what I could do is to go to AP3, and then to AP4, after that, go to downgrader. Finally, I went back to AP4 under spl 1.2. But strange things happened. Each time I soft reset the device, it went to customazation and calibration again. In orther words, I could not restore my backup file which eventually asked for a reset. Finally, I get a conclusion that AP4 cannot be used under spl 1.2 at least the present time. Because I got accustomed with AP4, then I upgraded to AP3 and then AP4 under spl 3.5. Just because my little curiosity, I have travelled around the world twice.
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wish you had read the forum more times
it is well known that depending on the SPL version you have to get the correct rom version or you will get reset loop. AP4 is only for the newer SPL for now.