after all, what do we need to speed niki performance? - Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development

I cooked a rom. Basically, it's a PTG OEM Rom, but with drivers from Dopod s600. Used same method that xangma. However, I'm testing the rom now, but the system seems to be the same, no improves. Maybe I'm wrong, but there's no software benchmarks can I do to display driver?
Other question, there's any way to improve system performance? I've installed advanced configuration, but file cache was already enabled.

By using original Touch Dual driver, you device will be freeze up every time you touch the touchscreen (Thanks HTC!)
Dopod S600 driver doesn't have this problem
Tiago Machado - try to clean up you rom

Tim4 said:
By using original Touch Dual driver, you device will be freeze up every time you touch the touchscreen (Thanks HTC!)
Dopod S600 driver doesn't have this problem
Tiago Machado - try to clean up you rom
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I've flashed the Rom minutes ago so I've only Resco explorer and Adv. Config. installed. I'm confused because, when I use Mary, Tom, and Shark Rom's, they come with a lot of programs and are faster than mine now, so I always thought that the speed was conected with the video driver.
So... how can I put my rom working like yours?

May be you just made something wrong with cooking?
When i have cook my self rom (20753 build), it was isn't faster, isn't slower than other rom

Tim4 said:
May be you just made something wrong with cooking?
When i have cook my self rom (20753 build), it was isn't faster, isn't slower than other rom
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No... The only thing I've done was replace all touch.dll folder. I wanted to have two roms exactly the same but with differente video drivers so I can compare... But I will do some tests now. I've downloaded this software and it's running right now.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-vsbenchmark-2007-v1-20.html
Dont you know a better software?

I just finished the benchmarks... well... the results are almost the same So many hours cooking and then I even dont know want gonne wrong... anyone have the results with and withouth most recent video driver so we can compare?

Nothing wrong, just there is no any video driver that will work on niki

Tim4 said:
Nothing wrong, just there is no any video driver that will work on niki
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So, why are some roms faster than the others?

So, why are some roms faster than the others?
Various builds, cleaning, etc.
I use original rom ported to wm6.1
I don't think Mary rom, or Tom's rom work much faster that my one (I have tested it, benchmarking prof it).
Can you cook rom, that contains build from kaiser, radio from kaiser, and .dll from kaiser (DDI.DLL, DISPTOOLS.DLL and another that can be compatible with niki)?
May be it will allow to use D3d driver from kaiser

Tim4 said:
So, why are some roms faster than the others?
Various builds, cleaning, etc.
I use original rom ported to wm6.1
I don't think Mary rom, or Tom's rom work much faster that my one (I have tested it, benchmarking prof it).
Can you cook rom, that contains build from kaiser, radio from kaiser, and .dll from kaiser (DDI.DLL, DISPTOOLS.DLL and another that can be compatible with niki)?
May be it will allow to use D3d driver from kaiser
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I dont think that will work Even if I believe it works, I really cant do it. Really a noob Cant you help me faster my rom?

i forgot one thing... there is several programs from original touchflo
They made by HTC (calls HTC_program, htc_settings, they launch from large start menu) they change original programs and settings window to another one (They look absolutely same, but they isn't same). In result it works more faster.
For example - touchscrolling in program's applet. Without this programm, scrolling so laggy (Thanks HTC!), but by using it, scrolling works without any freezes/stops/lags

Related

Is it possible to port 'official' WM6 ROM of HTC Touch(Elf) to the Prophet?

I was wondering is this possible.
The hardware spec. is pretty much the same, except the TouchFLO.
I think ... the Touchscreen is differnet and the main Problem. I have see, the first ported touch cube starts via hardware key! not like on a elf.
Touchflow available on Wizard???
I am not too sure if the H/W if so diff... I think someone has been succesful in porting touch flow to the Wizard.
Check out the following link..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313656
Actually, I didn't hope for the TouchFLO to work.
Just that this may be the first official WM6 ROM for HTC Device.
It may be a good and stable base ROM for further development.
Would it help if I uploaded the rom of the german o2 version of the htc touch. My brother got one yesterday. From the first look is the touchscreen pretty much the same as that of the prophet. Same memory size and processor type, too. Just more MHz.
Greets
Markus
not working
I've tryed to flash a rom with all the OEM parts from the ELF the only new app I got working was the new camera wich by the way is realy cool. but none of the other apps worked. they did load but where not displayed. like the commanager showed no images but I could turn on bluetooth by pressing the screen where the image was supose to be.
to get it to work some dll files must be modified
what would be handy is to get the battery driver from this rom and try it, as this is still giving problems on the current WM6 roms.....
Jesterz said:
what would be handy is to get the battery driver from this rom and try it, as this is still giving problems on the current WM6 roms.....
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now that would be intresting yes. I will try that

MWG Atom Life WM6 Modified ROM WWE_080608_B2_DS by aa125690

As I mentioned, the OS version is still 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4). This will be my only work on WM6. Maybe the softwares will still be updated in the future.
I've done those changings:
- Used Adobe Reader LE 2.5 instead of ClearValuePDF, and updated to the latest build 103401.01
- Used Jbed instead of Jblend, and the build of Jbed is 20080610.2.1
- Updated .NET Compact Framework from 2.0 to 3.5
- Updated the Windows Live for Windows Mobile from version 10.6.0033.0600 to 10.6.0034.0800
- Added OneNote Mobile into Office Mobile
- Added China, Hong Kong and other options in Regional Settings
- Removed the HTC Enlarge Start Menu (It will be included again in my WM6.1 modified ROMs)
- Removed .NET Compact Framework v3.5 Messages CHT for Windows Mobile
- Customer Feedback is placed back
My first WM6.1 ROM has been finished. Come here if you are interested in it.
Remember, I'm just a beginning-level cook. Please don't just leave swearing posts if there is something wrong... Thanks.
Instruction: Just flash my ROM like what you've done for medkid's.
Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?edmztnl1y00
In my opinion, MWG Atom Life WM6 ROM WWE_020108_B2_DS is a very stable rom. I never find the major problem with this rom before.
However, the only problem that I really concern is the RAM of this rom is too low. So if you can include the RAM management program (Oxios CloseApps) in your rom, that would be good. And if you can make this rom have more RAM, that would be the best.
One more request for you to consider, the software that make flash of ATOM Life to be torch is very useful too.
That all from my side. However, if you just post your rom like you talk. I am also still interesting in your rom.
Thanks, mate. Over 100 views and you posted the first response...
Yes, I agree you point. But my target of cooking is to only make ROMs that very like the official ROM. I won't add anymore other new softwares that do not come from Microsoft or MWg or O2 in order to keep the ROM stable. I will only exchange the softwares that I think they're useless.
Anyway, I'll think about how to reduce more memory consumtion. I've thought about that and you gave me the push. I'll find methods to do that. Thanks mate.
Hi aa125690.
great to hear that we have another budding cook amidst us. Please do post your ROM so that we cn test it and notify you of any bugs or crashes. Together we all can help improve ROM development. As Frioniel said torch and oxios close apps are very important applications. Also please try to reduce the pagepool to increase more free RAM. Personally I never used MWG ROM, because I always go for newer builds
Even Medkid's 6.1.0.9 is very stable for me. TM2's 22070 ROM had some issues like restarting when battery nears 40%, lesser battery life.
One more thing, if you could also provide the option for regional settings for many other countries as an add on option later on.
My 2 cents.
maniac2403 said:
Hi aa125690.
great to hear that we have another budding cook amidst us. Please do post your ROM so that we cn test it and notify you of any bugs or crashes. Together we all can help improve ROM development. As Frioniel said torch and oxios close apps are very important applications. Also please try to reduce the pagepool to increase more free RAM. Personally I never used MWG ROM, because I always go for newer builds
Even Medkid's 6.1.0.9 is very stable for me. TM2's 22070 ROM had some issues like restarting when battery nears 40%, lesser battery life.
One more thing, if you could also provide the option for regional settings for many other countries as an add on option later on.
My 2 cents.
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I am using T2M's, but no restarting issue. I see that you are using a 4G miniSD. I am wondering if you have any problem like me - when you go \start menu\program\games (I install games on SD card), it will cause the system paused for 2 to 3 minutes, for the first time after soft reset. This applies to all ROMs I have tried. Same thing happens if using file explorer to access the \start menu\program\games folder for the first time after soft reset. However, it will be ok then. It will reduce the pause time to less than a minute for 2G, and un-noticeable with 1G.
Any good idea or suggestion? Thank you.
O.S.
maniac2403 said:
Even Medkid's 6.1.0.9 is very stable for me. TM2's 22070 ROM had some issues like restarting when battery nears 40%, lesser battery life.
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Same here. Been using v6.1.0.9 for sometime now. Ram and battery is quite important for me. The battery can go down to as low as 9% without shutdown. See screenshot.
maniac2403 said:
Hi aa125690.
great to hear that we have another budding cook amidst us. Please do post your ROM so that we cn test it and notify you of any bugs or crashes. Together we all can help improve ROM development. As Frioniel said torch and oxios close apps are very important applications. Also please try to reduce the pagepool to increase more free RAM. Personally I never used MWG ROM, because I always go for newer builds
Even Medkid's 6.1.0.9 is very stable for me. TM2's 22070 ROM had some issues like restarting when battery nears 40%, lesser battery life.
One more thing, if you could also provide the option for regional settings for many other countries as an add on option later on.
My 2 cents.
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Because other guys have already posted the modified high-level ROMs, I'll only create stable WM6 and WM6.1 ROMs as unofficial "pre-officialp)" ROMs at the moment. I'll modify WM6.1 ROMs after that. But I prefer to make the "pre-official" version first.
I use the wince.nls file from medkid's ROM, so if you find the option you want in Regional Settings in medkid's ROM, you won't be failed to find that in mine.
By the way, I'm still doing some update and upgrade works on my ROM. And if anybody has suggestion about where I should upload, please tell me.
Maniac2403, thanks for suggestion. I think you could be a cook better than me(maybe you've already been a cook). Rom cooking is a quite easy job if you study and work hard. Really.
abc001 said:
I am using T2M's, but no restarting issue. I see that you are using a 4G miniSD. I am wondering if you have any problem like me - when you go \start menu\program\games (I install games on SD card), it will cause the system paused for 2 to 3 minutes, for the first time after soft reset. This applies to all ROMs I have tried. Same thing happens if using file explorer to access the \start menu\program\games folder for the first time after soft reset. However, it will be ok then. It will reduce the pause time to less than a minute for 2G, and un-noticeable with 1G.
Any good idea or suggestion? Thank you.
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I've never install programs into my MiniSD card, mate. We have 1GB ROM!
Rom
aa125690 said:
Because other guys have already posted the modified high-level ROMs, I'll only create stable WM6 and WM6.1 ROMs as unofficial "pre-officialp)" ROMs at the moment. I'll make modified WM6.1 ROMs after that. But I prefer to make the "pre-official" version first.
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Will wait for your WM6.1, bro. Will give it a try when its ready.
aa125690 said:
I've made a ROM modified from the official MWG Atom Life WM6 ROM WWE_020108_B2_DS. Just changed something necessary in order to make it become more usable and keep it stable. So, the OS version is still 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4). My work on WM6 will always stick on this version, as it may be the most stable ROM for Atom Life.
I've done those changings:
- Use Adobe Reader LE 2.5 instead of ClearValuePDF
- Use Jbed instead of Jblend, and the build of Jbed is 20080610.2.1
- Add OneNote Mobile into Office Mobile
- Add China, Hong Kong and other options in Regional Settings
- Customer Feedback is hided
I'm actually still trying to upgrade the Internet Explorer Mobile from version 7.6 to 7.11, and the Windows Live for Windows Mobile from version 10.6.0033.0600 to 10.6.0034.0800. And I may not work for WM6 anymore after that. I'll start trying to build WM6.1 ROMs, and try to keep them as stable as the official WM6 ROM at the same time.
Who's interested in it? If someone wants stable ROMs, I'll upload my ROMs. The one I've just made works stably in my Atom Life.
Remember, I'm just a beginning-level cook. Please don't just leave swearing posts if there is something wrong... Thanks.
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Ya. I would like to try your version of ROM, Can you send me by email....
[email protected]
nibudon said:
Ya. I would like to try your version of ROM, Can you send me by email....
[email protected]
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I'm sorry it's impossible. How can I send a file that larger than 64.0GB to you by e-mail?
P.S. I've to use 2.75G(EDGE) only to upload my ROMs, so I'll only upload once for each new release...
anything for at&t 3g??? yet i have a xda atom life not mwg version
JACKMODE said:
anything for at&t 3g??? yet i have a xda atom life not mwg version
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What do you actually ask for?
Mine is also O2 Xda Atom Life(hardware), but I have already upgraded the ROM inside into MWg version.
i have at&t and i cant get 3g to work i tryed everthing and alot of roms still nothing im not the only one with this problem if you look through the forums you will see nobody got it to work i was wondering if they had a rom for this or fix the reason i said o2 xda version is because i heard of some one that got it to work but they have mwgs version and they make roms for the us
but o2 doesnt
heres an old post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351604
Have you tried the Auto Configurator?
aa125690 said:
Have you tried the Auto Configurator?
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Do u come from Hong Kong ?
I want to know that if u have a situation like this: the device becomes very slow after using FM radio for sometime, provided that the device is using official WM6 rom. However, there is no such problem when it is using official WM5 rom.
I have take the device to the CS to check if there is any problem. But they only help me to flash the rom again. The problem still sticks with me.
Anyway, thx for ur great contribution
aa125690 said:
I'm sorry it's impossible. How can I send a file that larger than 64.0GB to you by e-mail?
P.S. I've to use 2.75G(EDGE) only to upload my ROMs, so I'll only upload once for each new release...
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you mean 64 Mb right
aa125690 said:
Because other guys have already posted the modified high-level ROMs, I'll only create stable WM6 and WM6.1 ROMs as unofficial "pre-official" ROMs at the moment. I'll modify WM6.1 ROMs after that. But I prefer to make the "pre-official" version first.
I use the wince.nls file from medkid's ROM, so if you find the option you want in Regional Settings in medkid's ROM, you won't be failed to find that in mine.
By the way, I'm still doing some update and upgrade works on my ROM. And if anybody has suggestion about where I should upload, please tell me.
Maniac2403, thanks for suggestion. I think you could be a cook better than me(maybe you've already been a cook). Rom cooking is a quite easy job if you study and work hard. Really.
I've never install programs into my MiniSD card, mate. We have 1GB ROM!
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Hehe.. I tried cooking, don't know what went wrong
Would try again when I have free time though. I still haven't got how to port my own XIP instead of using other XIP's.
Anyways you can build a 'Vanilla' ROM for Atom Life, as there are none of these kinds.
Regarding upload. Anywhere except rapidhshare
Also regional settings are hard to comy by for India . Any tricks up your sleeve for it ?
abc001 said:
I am using T2M's, but no restarting issue. I see that you are using a 4G miniSD. I am wondering if you have any problem like me - when you go \start menu\program\games (I install games on SD card), it will cause the system paused for 2 to 3 minutes, for the first time after soft reset. This applies to all ROMs I have tried. Same thing happens if using file explorer to access the \start menu\program\games folder for the first time after soft reset. However, it will be ok then. It will reduce the pause time to less than a minute for 2G, and un-noticeable with 1G.
Any good idea or suggestion? Thank you.
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Yea I use a 4GB card by Sandisk When I had got the card I had formatted it to Fat32 using a Win98 machine. You know the 'format' in command
Normally when I reboot my phone, I remove the MiniSD out of its slot. The delay happens under two circumstances.
1. Programs installed on the storage card
Reading from storage card takes a lil more time as compared to Main memory which is a flash memory. So more the memory more time it would take to sort through all files.
2. Fragmented files on the card
You can plug the card to your home computer and defragment it once in a while. That should speed up performance.
kangmas said:
Same here. Been using v6.1.0.9 for sometime now. Ram and battery is quite important for me. The battery can go down to as low as 9% without shutdown. See screenshot.
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I second that mate !
Maybe its my luck that TM2's Rom gave me issues. Would try his upcoming ROm's though.

Has anyone else tried this driver on there device?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416474
Seems to have speeded up the scrolling on my phone and made it more responsive when i touch the screen.
I may be imagining it though.
Someone else try and let me know what you think?
I've cooked my ROM using it : my Niki seems to be a little more responsive than with the HTC one, but I haven't benchmarked it, so I don't know if it's my mind or the driver
In fact, since it can't be worst than original D3D driver, I think I'll keep it for a while...
I have try it...
and seems that it doesn't work
I use official rom ported to WM6.1
What do you mean by "it doesn't work" ?
My device has a ROM cooked thanks to jerpelea's kitchen, and when I mod the registry in order to use the Omnia driver, everything look OK for me...
CAb installed succesfully on my HTC TOuch ( ELF) with self cooked rom wm6.1 !
I perform benchmark actually !
Note : This driver is for the graphical ? or for the processor ?
Thanks !
It's a D3Ddriver, but a software driver...
I cooked it, not used the cab... Maybe the problem come from it ?
I heard that drivers need to be cooked, cant be just installed.
Does it work better? Or there isnt much diference? How about in 3d games?
Hi,
It´s possible to install this drivers in an original rom?
Thanks in advance.
Huiguita
I think we need to wait the NEw htc wm6.1 rom, and update our drivers
These driver will not work on niki because Omnia based on Intel Xscale CPU without video accelerator.
CPU in omnia can understand MMX instructions, this is the main reason it works very fast in video decoding (About 1.5times faster than HTC Diamond)
P.S. Doesn't work means thats there is no any differences after installing

HW 3D driver somewhere ? TF3D...

Hi !
i am new to nike and still stoked, such a nice device
Now i read that Manila3D is almost good to go - And i´ve read that Qualcomm is 3D capable, too.
What about some working (ati?) 3D drivers ?
Just would like to get information for my know-how.
Thanks !
This drivers must be ported first. Just installing doesn't have any results
meisterlampe2000 said:
Hi !
i am new to nike and still stoked, such a nice device
Now i read that Manila3D is almost good to go - And i´ve read that Qualcomm is 3D capable, too.
What about some working (ati?) 3D drivers ?
Just would like to get information for my know-how.
Thanks !
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Ask Jerpeala he's in nike upgrading forum and he's really knowlegable on nike roms and kitchens
hy
i have tested the 3.55 kaiser ddi drivers with the new 3d drivers that work for kaiser
but on niki i dont get hardware acceleration
till now there are 3 usable drivers(software)
1.from latest opal rom (works but is not fast)
2.from latest opal rom (works and is faster than any htc driver)
3.from latest niki rom 2.12 (the worst)
i can not get 3d working even if i flashed kaiser radio rom and i have used kaiser drivers
there is something else needed (maibe in SPL or IPL)
BR
Okay thank you !
If there is anything that has to be tested...I am the one...
ATM i donßt een have a clue about that, so i´ll have to read a lot till then...
These drivers must be ported for niki (I didn't mean porting to rom)
Kaiser and Niki similiar, but not same. We need someone, who can disassemble and improve .dll's
Polaris already got working drivers
jerpelea said:
hy
i have tested the 3.55 kaiser ddi drivers with the new 3d drivers that work for kaiser
but on niki i dont get hardware acceleration
till now there are 3 usable drivers(software)
1.from latest opal rom (works but is not fast)
2.from latest opal rom (works and is faster than any htc driver)
3.from latest niki rom 2.12 (the worst)
i can not get 3d working even if i flashed kaiser radio rom and i have used kaiser drivers
there is something else needed (maibe in SPL or IPL)
BR
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My shot is the kernel... this driver don´t work in NIKI´s kernel.
In order to work with the hardware, the driver needs to operate with the kernel. On a computer the SO kernel uses the HAL(hardware abstraction layer) so that one kernel can work with hundreds of hardware configurations. On the PCC/WinCE platform, the kernel is specific, so in the absence of HAL any driver will be specific to that configuratio too. So we need a modded driver wich can work on NIKI´s kernel...
The I/SPL will not add much on this...
We almost have a working SW driver haven´t we ?
So maybe TF3D will be just fine, when it´s done...
Sorry but i am not a software guy
Hy All
i have an working os for nike with kaiser original video drivers
if anyone wants to try it please ask
BR
jerpelea said:
Hy All
i have an working os for nike with kaiser original video drivers
if anyone wants to try it please ask
BR
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Could you upload it for us?
Thanks!
HOUSTON WE HAVE HARDWARE D3D
UPLOADING ROM NOW
http://rapidshare.com/files/152360877/RUU.rar.html
install this
http://rapidshare.com/files/152361404/HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab.html
and
RUN
DLL CHECKER
D3D demo
Best regards
POWER BUG/do not press power button (to restart needs soft reset)
jerpelea said:
HOUTON WE HAVE HARDWARE D3D
UPLOADING ROM NOW
http://rapidshare.com/files/152360877/RUU.rar.html
install this
http://rapidshare.com/files/152361404/HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab.html
and
RUN
DLL CHECKER
D3D demo
Best regards
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Thanks mate!
I will try it later tonight...
jerpelea
please keep my informed which driver package you used (Kaiser or Polaris? modified or original?) and wether you need special ROM for this (ie, you ported kaiser ddi or smth manually?)
This so that info can be put up on the HTC-CA site
(Kaiser, Polaris, now Nike.. we getting places )
Alex Minards said:
Thanks mate!
I will try it later tonight...
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Alex, any feedback on installing the cab file. I'm keen to try it out, but currently busy testing a rom for one of the cookers. (don't want to skew my results )
Whoa, so what is this useful for? Just 3d? I want bloody 2d fixed first! It's horrible! =P
And what's that bug? Could you explain it a little more? Also, can that cab be installed with any rom or only that one you provided?
xangma said:
Whoa, so what is this useful for? Just 3d? I want bloody 2d fixed first! It's horrible! =P
And what's that bug? Could you explain it a little more? Also, can that cab be installed with any rom or only that one you provided?
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you can use the cab only with the test rom
is the original kaiser cab
the power bug is solved
BR
Chainfire said:
jerpelea
please keep my informed which driver package you used (Kaiser or Polaris? modified or original?) and wether you need special ROM for this (ie, you ported kaiser ddi or smth manually?)
This so that info can be put up on the HTC-CA site
(Kaiser, Polaris, now Nike.. we getting places )
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i have used kaiser ddi drivers and original kaiser htcclassaction.org drivers
you need this special rom to use it
BR
i will release soon an new rom with all the bugfixes done incluing 3D drivers and test tools
ans if is enoug space i have an surprise (quake 3 GL demo)
i have tested it last night and is
BR
Good to know. You ported the Kaiser DDI to Nike, interesting.
How did you solve the power issue, though?
What about the 2d scrolling etc?

Any Way To Scroll The Menu With Dragging in WM 6.1 ?

Hi
In WM 6.5 You Can Scroll The Programs And Menus Buy Dragging Any Where , But In WM 6.1 You Have To Use The Scroll Bars !
Is There Any Way To Make The Scrolling In WM6.1 Like The One In WM6.5 ? !
Thanks
Yes, it is possible
Infact that is the default feature of WM 6.1, if it is not removed by the chef while cooking the ROM to again more free RAM.
Try any of the 6.1 based ROM from this forum.
@Duron: No it cant be removed and it has became a feature of the Windows Mobile OS itself. It could be removed in older days (with Elf for example) when it was not part of Windows Mobile OS itself, rather it was provided by an external HTC tool called BioTouch. Now its inseparable.
Thanks Every One
krazy_about_technology thank you
i have downloaded one of your 6.1 roms
and it has the Scrolling feature
thank you so much
You are most welcome friend. Enjoy your phone!
guys iam srry
but there is a great rom iam using now , and its very good and comfo
but the only thing wich is missing is the scrolling stuf
could any one help me adding it again to the rom ?
thanks every one
@ Krazy,
Thank's for correcting me.
But I guess I had flashed a 6.1 ROM which did not had touch scrolling in it, So thought it could be removed while cooking.
Anyway it's good for us that microsoft has made it part of OS.
@Duron: Yes, you are right buddy, in earlier versions of 6.1, MSTOUCH was not there (this is the name people use to describe the built in flik scrolling in WinMo). These versions also have a weird problem, that if you copy 2-3 files to phone mem which are also present in the ROM itself (i mean you override the rom file), then the device would get really really slow. It would take upto 5 minutes to open the WIndows folder in file explorer. This issue was solved in some builds just before the one i used in Pro Users ROM v1.0. And at the same time, Microsoft introduced touch scrolling in the WIndows Mobile itself.
@Hassan: Buddy, there is no way you can enable touch scrolling in that rom without rebuilding it with a newer SYS which means, you create a new ROM. Only HTC Touch (Elf) and above phones have a touch screen driver that can do this with the help of biotouch.exe utility. It requires this utility + support for it in the touch.dll driver. This driver file is unique for every device and cannot be used across devices, atleast not between those which have fundamentally different types of touch screens. For reference, see how the touch screen of a touch series device from htc differs from a device like gene. you will get the idea, the hardware is different.
how do i know which rom im using
i have the x7510 .i heard that the michy rom is really good.how do i know which rom im using.also is the oem rom any good.

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