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Anyone "in the know" on what is going on with Microsoft Voice Command?
For those not up to date heres the brief bio:
Microsoft released a rocking WM program that offers true voice recognition on pocketPCs and smartphones. If it didn't come with your carrier's build, it's a $40 upgrade, and well worth it. The latest version is 1.6. Unfortunately, it's been fraught with little issues, mostly related to Bluetooth headset compatibility, but most people still find it indispensable in spite of these challenges. I'm one of those people. The dial by number, and recognition of any name in the address book is invaluable to me, and a "must have" app for my 6800, no matter how badly it works.
The program is at version 1.6, and hasn't been updated in 2 years now.
What's the skinny?
jtg
I agree. I have had the same problems and have searched the net for any info about an update. Like you, I have not been able to find anything about a projected release of a new version. I guess that is just the microsoft way...only 2 years..
I heard a rumor that it was goint to be built into the next version of Windows mobile, but I hope that's not true.
If that happens, hoppefully it will be DCD to the rescue with a port for use all!!!
The real deal:
Ok, to those who haven't been following:
Microsoft DID update the VC software, but it was never released. It seems the Windows Mobile version went to the back burner since they made a deal with Ford Motors to start including the VC technology in the new Ford in-dash stereo systems (que up your mp3's, make calls via your bt phone, etc).
However, there was a test rom floating around for another WM device that had a greatly improved new VC version, which fixed 99% of the problems everyone was having.
This version was extracted and made available as an OEM to load into a kitchen to build into your ROMs.
There is NO .cab installation that I've seen for this version, so you're stuck with either cooking it in, or just replacing the files (there's a zip floating around here somewhere of the files u need to replace to make it the new version, but I don't recall where I saw it).
The OEM can be found in the excellent new PPCGeeks kitchen (ppckitchen.org), which incidentally supported Titan roms now.
For you DCD fans, it seems he hasn't made his rom compatible with the new kitchen GUI, but its relatively simple to make it a basekit. If enough of you push dcd, he might consider doing it... otherwise, you can always copy the OEM directory into DCD's kitchen OEMs.
Try Dutty's Voice Commander
This works for me, it is the best of both versions I have seen of the voice software. There are a couple versions out there, this is the most recent I have found. It is a cab.
I've got VC almost completely working. I cooked it into the DCD ROM. One reg key needs to be changed to get the button on your headset to work. The part I don't have working is the prompt and confirmation comming to the headset. The prompt and confirmation come out of the phone. It takes commands fine through the headset, just no audio until the call is started. Anyone know how to fix that? I'm using a Jawbone.
Dishe said:
Ok, to those who haven't been following:
Microsoft DID update the VC software, but it was never released. It seems the Windows Mobile version went to the back burner since they made a deal with Ford Motors to start including the VC technology in the new Ford in-dash stereo systems (que up your mp3's, make calls via your bt phone, etc).
However, there was a test rom floating around for another WM device that had a greatly improved new VC version, which fixed 99% of the problems everyone was having.
This version was extracted and made available as an OEM to load into a kitchen to build into your ROMs.
There is NO .cab installation that I've seen for this version, so you're stuck with either cooking it in, or just replacing the files (there's a zip floating around here somewhere of the files u need to replace to make it the new version, but I don't recall where I saw it).
The OEM can be found in the excellent new PPCGeeks kitchen (ppckitchen.org), which incidentally supported Titan roms now.
For you DCD fans, it seems he hasn't made his rom compatible with the new kitchen GUI, but its relatively simple to make it a basekit. If enough of you push dcd, he might consider doing it... otherwise, you can always copy the OEM directory into DCD's kitchen OEMs.
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i prefer the functionality of dcd's kitchen over ppcgeeks.... except for the splash screen thing... but it's all opinion
serfboreds said:
This works for me, it is the best of both versions I have seen of the voice software. There are a couple versions out there, this is the most recent I have found. It is a cab.
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Does this version require you to set tags for contacts?
Thanks
roninld said:
Does this version require you to set tags for contacts?
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No, it doesn't require you to set tags, but provides that as an option. The tags are useful for frequently called numbers as they should reduce errors somewhat.
This version also works properly through my bluetooth headset including confirmations.
-dwdoc
ok, here is what I did to get it working with DCD:
1. Take the voice command folders from ppckitchen and put them in the OEM folder. There are two folders for the newest version
2. Cook your rom
3. Change the button assignment to VC if you want (settings -> buttons)
4. HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand change "path" to "\windows\voicecmd.exe"
5. HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway change "BTAGExtModule" to "vcbthag.dll"
Hope that helps you guys!
P.S. On the handset the initial voice prompt beep doesn't work.(the first time you press the button)NOT USING HEADSET
When you dial by the headset the little dial tones come out the handset.
This also lets the phone send ring tones to your headset when it is ringing.
Dishe--thanks for the tip, I googled and found a cab--I have voice command 1.6.17913, and it is a significant improvement over the one I purchased. I can now use my BT headset like I did with my old 6700!! Can anyone confirm this is the most recent build?
jtg
1.9.19209 is available as an OEM in the PPCGeeks Kitchen, but I don't know if there is a CAB of it anywhere.
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1.9.19209 is available as an OEM in the PPCGeeks Kitchen, but I don't know if there is a CAB of it anywhere.
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I just went through the Kitchen process described above and I get a version number of 1.6.19209. Perhaps just a typo?
whbell said:
I just went through the Kitchen process described above and I get a version number of 1.6.19209. Perhaps just a typo?
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The Tip in option.xml for this version says, "Microsoft Voice Command - Latest version from kaiser". No2Chem shows as the author, so maybe he will chime in.
JimSmith94 said:
The Tip in option.xml for this version says, "Microsoft Voice Command - Latest version from kaiser". No2Chem shows as the author, so maybe he will chime in.
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This is what I see also.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16" standalone="yes"?>
<Items>
<Item name="Microsoft Voice Command" group="Voice Control" checked="True">
<Tip>Microsoft Voice Command - Latest version from kaiser</Tip>
<Guid type="p">410788f1-acd5-457b-b9ea-df86ac7f990e</Guid>
<OEMDate>3/30/2008</OEMDate>
<AppVersion>1.6.19209</AppVersion>
<AppAuthorURL>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/</AppAuthorURL>
<ButtonType>GroupRadioNone</ButtonType>
<OEMAuthor>No2Chem</OEMAuthor>
<Require>93f31b6d-078b-4dae-a335-8ea8c3b22c97</Require>
</Item>
</Items>
I believe it was just a typo and he meant a newer build of 1.6. I have the 1.6.19209 installed from the kitchen and can not seem to get voice dialing to work when I dial by name though. It recognizes the command and will ask me if I want to dial work, home, cell, etc. However, when I confirm it never actually dials. It will work fine if I tell it to just dial a number though. Anyone else experiencing this and know of a fix?
djlenoir said:
I believe it was just a typo and he meant a newer build of 1.6. I have the 1.6.19209 installed from the kitchen and can not seem to get voice dialing to work when I dial by name though. It recognizes the command and will ask me if I want to dial work, home, cell, etc. However, when I confirm it never actually dials. It will work fine if I tell it to just dial a number though. Anyone else experiencing this and know of a fix?
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There are 3 olders in the PPCKitchen. Voice Command 1.6 (which is the 1.6.17 version), VoiceCommand (version 1.6.19), and VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 (supports files for 1.6.19). I threw the VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 into the SYS folder in DCD kitchen, and VoiceCommand into the OEM. Cooked with no problems.
Have no issues with VC not dialing a contact.
roninld said:
There are 3 olders in the PPCKitchen. Voice Command 1.6 (which is the 1.6.17 version), VoiceCommand (version 1.6.19), and VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 (supports files for 1.6.19). I threw the VoiceCommand_Lang_0409 into the SYS folder in DCD kitchen, and VoiceCommand into the OEM. Cooked with no problems.
Have no issues with VC not dialing a contact.
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Sorry, which kitchen? I can't find those files...
88fingerslukee said:
Sorry, which kitchen? I can't find those files...
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After you install the ppcgeeks buildos and update, there is a kitchens folder. In there, PPCGeeks_OEM.rar has these folders.
OK guys,
Thanks to all hose who Beta tested the Neon WM6.1 Rom for the NEON.
I have just released V1:
Based on feedback from Beta testers this is the change log:
V1:
* Fixed HSPDA - When connection is idle 3G icon shows up, but when you use the connection it switches to HSPDA.
* Pagepool changed to 8mb
* Removed Diamond Dialer
* Kaiser Tweak
* Diamond USB to PC
* Reg Hack Hide Sim Contacts
* Reg Hack disable security warning
Important note: This Rom has only been tested with Radio 1.58.25.17. If you experience problems with your current Radio and this Rom you can download the Radio from the link at the bottom of the post.
These guys deserve a big thanks, Shortyboy and jcostanza4
Links
Public Beta: No longer supported, please update to V1 or V2
Radio 1.58.25.17 http://rapidshare.com/files/121638802/RUU_NEON_Radio_1.58.25.17.rar
NEON V1 http://rapidshare.com/files/127032001/Neon_WM6_1_RV1.rar
Pictures
Reserved for Updates
can somebody post this radio?
disflipissofresh said:
can somebody post this radio?
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Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395384
freeze after flash
flash my one today and it freeze after loading into OS. You can't do anything except it need to soft reset and it start all over again. Have to flash it back to telstra ROM update.
avast detect trojan
could you give a quick scan with avast antivirus as this detect trojan when try to download
great !
did u have a link for the dialer !
Thx ?
i have an artemis !
Post #1 updated with new Rom.
thanks!
This worked perfectly with my Telstra HTC Touch dual (Neon) device.
For any other newbies like me, this is all I did-
Took my brand new Telstra Australia Touch Dual.
Installed the Neon Hard-spl here-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260&highlight=neon
Then just installed the rom in this thread. It works great, though i've lost my Office Mobile apps.
I had no sound at all on the first boot, but after reboot (and it does tell you to reboot again) everything was fine.
Thanks! And I look forward to trying your future releases.
woops one issue
An update on my install, I did actually end up having issues where as soon as a call was made or received all sound stopped working (which obviously makes calls a problem)
As per the original post, installing the updated Radio which took me from version .15 to .17 seems to have fixed this problem.
So are you saying that this ROM doesn't have
* video calling
* office apps
* or SOLITAIRE!?
Can they be installed afterwards or anything?
Cheers
jbng
Okay so I freaked a little when the camera stopped working and my guitar tuner wouldn't work, but it turned out I had to update the radio and that fixed both problems. It does seem to be smoother too.
Office apps are there, solitaire is there, but alas no video calling.
Can you get a third party app to do that, or will we have to re-flash the ROM if and when you add the 3G dialer?
I'm getting a bit sick of this hard reset rigmarole - although I am getting much more efficient at it!
Appreciate your work Seth - keep it up. BTW, the ROM update seems to have fixed my 'not waking up from standby' issues.
Cheers
jbng
You can use User Customization, works for me you only have to run it once after the hard reset and all you've configured will be setup. Maybe if Seth is really nice he will include it in his rom the next time so you don't have to run it manually. Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337&highlight=uc+junkies
jbngar said:
Okay so I freaked a little when the camera stopped working and my guitar tuner wouldn't work, but it turned out I had to update the radio and that fixed both problems. It does seem to be smoother too.
Office apps are there, solitaire is there, but alas no video calling.
Can you get a third party app to do that, or will we have to re-flash the ROM if and when you add the 3G dialer?
I'm getting a bit sick of this hard reset rigmarole - although I am getting much more efficient at it!
Appreciate your work Seth - keep it up. BTW, the ROM update seems to have fixed my 'not waking up from standby' issues.
Cheers
jbng
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I'll try to make a cab for Video call now that i have figured out how to fix it.
You can always try my new Rom it has video dialing built in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403436
Thanks for all your work Seth
The ROM is working great - no lockups at all since installing it.
I seem to have conflicting information about Bluetooth being affected by radio ROMs - what's your opinion? The reason I ask is that my bluetooth range is pretty shocking (it won't even go through one thin wall in the next room) and I was thinking that maybe one of the newer radio roms might improve it.
Will the Niki roms on the radio page work in a Neon? Should 1.65x radios work with your ROMs? The 1.65s there seem to be from a Kaiser.
The other thing I've seen is a HTC-supplied 'bluetooth hotfix' for the TytnII - any opinion on that?
We'll hang out for your video calling CAB/ROM too. Not that I ever really video call, but if someone asks 'can you do video calling?' I want to be able to say that I can... ;-b
Actually that's a thing - if someone video calls ME, will I be able to answer with the current ROM?
Cheers mate
jbng
jbngar said:
Thanks for all your work Seth
The ROM is working great - no lockups at all since installing it.
I seem to have conflicting information about Bluetooth being affected by radio ROMs - what's your opinion? The reason I ask is that my bluetooth range is pretty shocking (it won't even go through one thin wall in the next room) and I was thinking that maybe one of the newer radio roms might improve it.
Will the Niki roms on the radio page work in a Neon? Should 1.65x radios work with your ROMs? The 1.65s there seem to be from a Kaiser.
The other thing I've seen is a HTC-supplied 'bluetooth hotfix' for the TytnII - any opinion on that?
We'll hang out for your video calling CAB/ROM too. Not that I ever really video call, but if someone asks 'can you do video calling?' I want to be able to say that I can... ;-b
Actually that's a thing - if someone video calls ME, will I be able to answer with the current ROM?
Cheers mate
jbng
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See post 1 for the new Video Dialer.
In regards to the radios have a read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
I haven´t had much time to play with Radios. I´m using the radio of my post and my bluetooth is fine. The range is excellent, i live on the second floor and i still can get my cars bluetooth out the back in the carpark.
Hey Seth
VIDEO DIALER: didn't work. At all. I installed the cab, soft reset and had no phone dialer whatsoever. I don't mind reflashing the rom if that's what needs to be done - is the rom file on the front page updated with the video dialer? Or if the cab doesn't work will the rom not work too?
RADIO ROMS: it seems that the one you list is the best and latest for the Neon. The Niki ones and the Kaiser ones simply won't load. It's largely irrelevant anyway - because I don't think it's the phones problem...
BLUETOOTH: I faffed around for ages last night doing some tests with my dual and my decrepit old o2 mini (which used to have great bluetooth range) and it seems that the problem may be with the transmit power on my *computer* rather than on the dual. I left my dual next to my laptop at one end of the house, and then went to the other end of the house and did a search with the o2 mini. it found the dual but NOT the computer. I swapped phones and searched with the dual from the other end of the house and the same thing happened. So the phones have good range to each other, but they're both having trouble finding the computer.
I'm just waiting to get my hands on another laptop with bluetooth and then I can see if I need to call the good folk at Dell to replace my bluetooth module perhaps.
I'm also wondering if the laptop has gotten into its head that it's a 1m device instead of a 10m device. It's strange that I've only noticed it since getting my new phone, and now the old phone seems to have limited range too.
Anyways, blah blah blah - please let me know if you get any further with the video dialling in either the rom or the cab - and/or if there's anything you'd like me to test out for you.
Cheers
jbng
jbngar said:
Hey Seth
VIDEO DIALER: didn't work. At all. I installed the cab, soft reset and had no phone dialer whatsoever. I don't mind reflashing the rom if that's what needs to be done - is the rom file on the front page updated with the video dialer? Or if the cab doesn't work will the rom not work too?
RADIO ROMS: it seems that the one you list is the best and latest for the Neon. The Niki ones and the Kaiser ones simply won't load. It's largely irrelevant anyway - because I don't think it's the phones problem...
BLUETOOTH: I faffed around for ages last night doing some tests with my dual and my decrepit old o2 mini (which used to have great bluetooth range) and it seems that the problem may be with the transmit power on my *computer* rather than on the dual. I left my dual next to my laptop at one end of the house, and then went to the other end of the house and did a search with the o2 mini. it found the dual but NOT the computer. I swapped phones and searched with the dual from the other end of the house and the same thing happened. So the phones have good range to each other, but they're both having trouble finding the computer.
I'm just waiting to get my hands on another laptop with bluetooth and then I can see if I need to call the good folk at Dell to replace my bluetooth module perhaps.
I'm also wondering if the laptop has gotten into its head that it's a 1m device instead of a 10m device. It's strange that I've only noticed it since getting my new phone, and now the old phone seems to have limited range too.
Anyways, blah blah blah - please let me know if you get any further with the video dialling in either the rom or the cab - and/or if there's anything you'd like me to test out for you.
Cheers
jbng
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I will do two things tonight.
1 - I'll flash this Rom back on my device, i'm currently using SETHS DIAMOND V2 Build 19214.1.0.4. And i'll try to work out why the Cab doesn't work.
I'll rebuild this rom and include the video dialer if point one fails.
Cheers
Hey Seth
In the interests of 'giving something back' - here's a handful of splash screens for the diamond and the neon for you to take or leave...
Your 'logo' is supposed to be a square ROM chip but with griddle lines over it (you're a chef, after all). It also happens to be an 'S'.
If you want any further tweaks or raw files let me know.
Cheers
jbng
PS. While we're on the subject of splash screens, I get an 'access denied' error when I try to replace the windows mobile startup .png file on your latest Neon ROM. Any ideas why that would be the case? With the previous ROM my file just copied straight over the top.
jbngar said:
Hey Seth
In the interests of 'giving something back' - here's a handful of splash screens for the diamond and the neon for you to take or leave...
Your 'logo' is supposed to be a square ROM chip but with griddle lines over it (you're a chef, after all). It also happens to be an 'S'.
If you want any further tweaks or raw files let me know.
Cheers
jbng
PS. While we're on the subject of splash screens, I get an 'access denied' error when I try to replace the windows mobile startup .png file on your latest Neon ROM. Any ideas why that would be the case? With the previous ROM my file just copied straight over the top.
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Hi jbng,
Thanks for the wonderful images. The only program i know that can overwrite system files is Total commander. Just copy the file to your storage card and then use total commander to overwrite.
If that doesn´t work i posting 4 cabs on my latest Neon Rom for who ever wants to use your great artwork.
Regarding the Video dialer i just realized that RV1 has video calling, only the public beta didn´t. Please update your rom to either V1 or V"2.
Thanks
Scott’s VZW ROM - Working VZ Navigator (eRice kitchen v1.03.7) - Rev 1 out!
UPDATE 19 DEC 2008 @ 18:00 Central Time. New ROM is out. Consider this thread discontinued. Files will be on the website for historical purposes. I would recomend upgrading to my latest ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461524
UPDATED 12 Dec 2008 @ 19:00 Central Time
** You will need to dial *22899 after you flash to reprogram. Do this before anything else.
** Other model phones from other carriers will loose custom EPST settings per NexVision's testing.
REVISION 1 Changes at the end of this modified original post
This ROM IS FOR VZW USERS ONLY!
Greetings fellow VZW users. My first creation for us is Custom a ROM based off of eRice’s kitchen in this thread: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=46965.
ROM Info:
**The ROM I created is nearly identical to the “STOCK” ROM with a couple minor additions and an upgrade to the core CE OS files to version 5.2.20931. I pulled all the apps and drivers from the leaked VZW ROM in this into the eRice kitchen from this post: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42741
**I stripped out the Sprint drivers and applications from the eRice kitchen and added the VZW drivers and Apps from the VZW leaked ROM. It was fairly seamless to do. I tested VZ Nav and it worked great!
** This ROM is considerably more smooth than the stock ROM and more responsive in most applications including Touch Flow. No, it doesn’t fix our missing memory problem but I dont think you will notice it as much now. What makes it great is it is based on the 20931 CE OS but retains the 100% stock look via proper drivers and applications.
**VZ Navigator runs well on this ROM!
As far as I know this is the first “Custom” ROM with any sort of GPS for the XV6850.
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*Revision One Changes*
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Added N2A Weather Patch to Autoinstall. INcludes most US cities and patched weather server.
Added Diamond TF3D Config to Autoinstall (Runs with no errors)
Added Nue Fonts with a few extra fonts than what the OEM normally has. They look great on this screen!
Added Advanced Config 3.3
Added Turn off SMS Sent Notification - cabbed by "mixtapeking1900"
Added DotNET CF 2.0 along side DotNet 3.5. DotNet 2.0 installs first then ver 3.5 via Autoinstall (CONFIG.TXT in extended package OEM for the kitchen users.) I bieleve either could be removed but not truly sure. DotNet 3.5 was needed for Advanced Config.*Note - Selecting dotNet 3.5 in the KITCHEN will cause problems! Dont do it unless you proplery modify config.txt to not load them in the AutoRUN.
Removed IE 6.1 (Breaks My Button Setup!)
Removed JetPrint Bluetooth printing (whatever it is called, not sure)
Fixed My Button Settings not launching from the Settings Tab in Manila
Fixed Voice Command> I added it back in. Go to "Settings -> Voice Command" to turn it on before it will RUN!
Kept HTC YouTube
Kept HTC Network Plug in
Kept Internet Sharing
*All Three of these are from the eRice Kitchen. Big thanks to eRice for all 3!
No other installed programs than those listed and the VZW OEM apps.
The ROM is now pretty close to Stock which was the goal. This should be the last revision unless someone finds a major bug.
AS always, please report bugs and any thing you like as well.
Files located at www.scottcrosler.com
Mad Thanks go out to eRice, Commenex and ImCoKeMan for making this possible! Without them none of this would exist!
UPDATED 12 Dec 2008 @ 19:00 Central Time
Basic Installtion Instructions
Download ROM and extract to desktopp (Now includes RUU). Start the ROM Upgrade Utility and follow instructions Flashes just like ANY other phone or ROM. Flashing will destroy ALL data on phone. Always sync with ActiveSync before starting the upgrade utility OR place your phone in bootloader mode (Power, VolDown, and reset)
A call to *228 or *22899 (automated activation line) WILL BE REQUIRED for normal usage! This is true of ALL ROM's and even a simple hard reset of the Verizon stock ROM.
Before you flash you MUST be unlocked. I do not support the unlock process or the software but I can tell if you that if you follow the instructions at the link it works perfect.
Link to unlocker is here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42503
Link to ROM and RUU is here: http://www.scottcrosler.com/
Bugs so far:
Wiped Clean on new revision
**Here is where you will see gains with this ROM over stock...
1. Navigating through menu's, especially the settings menu.
2. Smoothness of TF3D (debateable depending on the tabs.) First time will be slow for EVERY device if you leave ALL the tabs enabled. Each tab is a like a sep app that has to load when you select it. After the tabs are loaded you will see even more gains over the stock ROM.
3. File explorer. Go to the Windows folder. No further explanation needed there, trust me. The stock file explorer took nearly 15 seconds to load Windows. This does it almost instantly.
Updated Kitchen Files!
This is for the eRICE KITCHEN. This is not my own Kitchen but an add on of VZW OEM files to the eRice kitchen.
Its the OEM pack that I used to create this ROM. Its what I stripped out of the VZW leaked ROM. I added just a couple OEMs that are not in the cooked ROM. I dont have the original OEM's broken out! IF anyone wants to break it down further like eRice did with his original kitchen let me know and I will host it on my site.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR KITCHEN SET UP:
Download and extract (to desktop) eRice 1.03.07 kitchen from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42796
Delete the entire OEM folder from inside the kitchen!
Download and extract the VZW OEM folder from www.scottcrosler.com and place it in the eRice kitchen as to replace the one you just delted. I made one minor change to the pure VZW OEM folders.I dropped the phonecanvas XML provisioning file into OEM apps. i think it supposed to be in SYS but I dont know.... It works fine the way it is. If you have never heard of the file then ignore this part of the post.
Start RaphealKitchen.CMD and follow instructions.
***Do not select DotNET 3.5 in the kitchen!!!. It is enabled by default, delelect it. Will cause issues.
I will try to support the kitchen as much as possible. Please do not bother eRice with this hybrid kitchen as I am sure he will not support my hybrid creation.
Thank eRice for this kitchen.
Thank the original poster of this thread for the leaked ROM I worked with:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42741. Not sure who posted it.
Thank me for putting it together!
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR ANY OF THE FILES. I do however take credit for converting to VZW OEM.
Should there be a link to your ROM here?
Are there instructions on how to flash?
Like putting phone into bootloader mode or anything else necessary?
Does the unlock process wipe the phone or does only the ROM update wipe?
Anyone tried this yet? Any reviews?
It's a lot of work to reinstall everything and to re-apply my special settings, even though I've been documenting what I've done.
Also, I was thinking of trying that Telus radio. Can I still try that on this? Does a radio update/change wipe the device clean or that's non-destructive?
lexluthor said:
Should there be a link to your ROM here?
Are there instructions on how to flash?
Like putting phone into bootloader mode or anything else necessary?
Does the unlock process wipe the phone or does only the ROM update wipe?
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I updated the second post with the steps you need. Sorry was trying not to get flamed on my thread. Someone over at PPCGeeks flamed me for pretty much no reason other than the fact that they could. It only stopped me from releasing my ROM over there. Oh well. There loss. Too bad because there are some really good people over there. The eRice kitchen was perfect in every aspect of a ktichen. I was never so impressed. Impressed enouhg to download the leaked ROM and portover the VZW software ;c) Its a nice change over the stock CE OS. If you flash let me knwo what you think.
Hi Scott,
I've been lurking on both forums since I got my Titan last December. I have learned much from everyone here and over at PPCG: these are the best resources by far for those of us into our phones and the tech behind it.
I agree that you were treated less than "professionally" over at PPCG, and hope that you will continue to work on the VZW TP/XV6850. Thanks for this great use of Eric's kitchen tools and stock ROM, along with your knowledge on how to get them all working for us! My take from the eRice thread is that he has no issue whatsoever with you using his stuff, and in fact he welcomes it for us VZW stepchildren... hehe.
This ROM does indeed kick arse, and hopefully GC and others will figure out the PRI lockdown and we will all have an amazing little machine to play with: it is w/o a doubt a much slicker device than the Titan, and I dug that little unit for the better part of a year
Cheers Pal
digitalattic said:
This ROM does indeed kick arse, and hopefully GC and others will figure out the PRI lockdown and we will all have an amazing little machine to play with: it is w/o a doubt a much slicker device than the Titan, and I dug that little unit for the better part of a year
Cheers Pal
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You've installed this ROM? Is the difference completely obvious?
digitalattic said:
Hi Scott,
I've been lurking on both forums since I got my Titan last December. I have learned much from everyone here and over at PPCG: these are the best resources by far for those of us into our phones and the tech behind it.
I agree that you were treated less than "professionally" over at PPCG, and hope that you will continue to work on the VZW TP/XV6850. Thanks for this great use of Eric's kitchen tools and stock ROM, along with your knowledge on how to get them all working for us! My take from the eRice thread is that he has no issue whatsoever with you using his stuff, and in fact he welcomes it for us VZW stepchildren... hehe.
This ROM does indeed kick arse, and hopefully GC and others will figure out the PRI lockdown and we will all have an amazing little machine to play with: it is w/o a doubt a much slicker device than the Titan, and I dug that little unit for the better part of a year
Cheers Pal
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You know what Dude, that is all I needed for motivation! You verizon users have some serisou **** instore for you ;c) Thanks for the positive feedback! Im motivated again!
They will figure out the PRI crap. It will take time. I wish skywing would port over his adapter program. I could incormporate that and we would have 100% GPS just like everyone else. He stated in his thread he was not interested in doing so. Thats a huge loss for us that we never even had ;c(
For the record!
For the record:
I have always asked permission before I redistribute any item found here. I asked DCD for his kitchen when I posted my R4R ROM for the Titan's.
I asked eRice specifically if I could port his stuff over for VZW users. His response was:
"if you can get the sprint carrier files split from the rom/kitchen and include the vzw ones, more power to you. that's what this forum is about. sharing ideas and results and improving on them for the benefit of everyone."
Its posted here. Just for the record ;c)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=567803&postcount=56
lexluthor said:
Should there be a link to your ROM here?
Are there instructions on how to flash?
Like putting phone into bootloader mode or anything else necessary?
Does the unlock process wipe the phone or does only the ROM update wipe?
Anyone tried this yet? Any reviews?
It's a lot of work to reinstall everything and to re-apply my special settings, even though I've been documenting what I've done.
Also, I was thinking of trying that Telus radio. Can I still try that on this? Does a radio update/change wipe the device clean or that's non-destructive?
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A few people have tried on PPCGeeks with great success as posted above.
Keep it coming. Two things to note. And YES I Just installed this ROM.
First, I had to *228 (not surprised but it is required to get data connections to work. This has been true for every ROM i've played with as well as custom ROM's i've built in the kitchen.)
Second, Comm Manager is missing from the slider menu with TF3D enabled. (Although still accessible via the keyboard shortcut.)
I will play some more and let you know what else I find. Thanks.
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Keep it coming. Two things to note. And YES I Just installed this ROM.
First, I had to *228 (not surprised but it is required to get data connections to work. This has been true for every ROM i've played with as well as custom ROM's i've built in the kitchen.)
Second, Comm Manager is missing from the slider menu with TF3D enabled. (Although still accessible via the keyboard shortcut.)
I will play some more and let you know what else I find. Thanks.
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The comm manager TAB or the comm manager link in the settings Tab? Its just fine for me. There is no Comm manager TAB in VZW version of TF3D.
I see you use the PPC Kitchen. That does have the Comm Manager Tab and you are used to that. This version is stragiht ripped from the ROM. No changes AT ALL. The stock phone doesnt have COmm manager Tab.
How about responsiveness?
Launching VZ Nav opened Opera and downloaded the CAB. CAB launched got to privacy screen but complained about not being able to save privacy settings. Only option is to lick OK. You are then brough tto the "default" VZ NAV error screen telling you there was a problem with your GPS device. I do have the CAB for VZ NAV now however.
Re-Launching VZ NAV produces the same result. Unable to save privacy and crashes out.
My mistake. You're right. I've gone through so many ROM's that it's a blur. The "Communications" link is still under the "Settings" tab in TF3D as it should be.
So far responsiveness is good. I have not configured the settings for my "regular" business use however.
Perhaps the reason VZ NAV will not install is because it's the official signed version?
bkurek said:
My mistake. You're right. I've gone through so many ROM's that it's a blur. The "Communications" link is still under the "Settings" tab in TF3D as it should be.
So far responsiveness is good. I have not configured the settings for my "regular" business use however.
Perhaps the reason VZ NAV will not install is because it's the official signed version?
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No, It always crashes twice at the initial set up, even on the Stock ROM. Its a crappy program I know! Try it a third time and you are good from then on. If not let me know and I will upload the Cab that I have. Nothing special about it though.
EDIT: I relfashed my phone, installed and it worked for me. It still does the three times to load problem. Two GPS errors for me. Then the third time it starts. THis is the EXACT behavior of the stock ROM.
bkurek,
How do you "go through so many roms"? Isn't it an hour or more to reinstall all of your apps and personal settings or is there some easier way that I'm missing?
I can't restore with SPB Backup, right?
Would you say this rom is noticeably faster?
lexluthor said:
bkurek,
How do you "go through so many roms"? Isn't it an hour or more to reinstall all of your apps and personal settings or is there some easier way that I'm missing?
I can't restore with SPB Backup, right?
Would you say this rom is noticeably faster?
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You MAY be able to restore with SPB back up. MAY being the keyword. You can always try it. It wont hurt anything. Worse case scenraio; Hard reset.
I will let bkurek answer the respoinsiveness question. Anything from me woudl be purely biased ;c)
bkurek said:
My mistake. You're right. I've gone through so many ROM's that it's a blur. The "Communications" link is still under the "Settings" tab in TF3D as it should be.
So far responsiveness is good. I have not configured the settings for my "regular" business use however.
Perhaps the reason VZ NAV will not install is because it's the official signed version?
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I relfashed my phone, installed and it worked for me. It still does the three times to load problem. Two errors that you just click though then the third time it starts. THis is the EXACT behavior of the stock ROM. It crashes twice on the Stock ROM as well.
Also did you install to storage card or main memory? I only install to main memory.
scrosler said:
You MAY be able to restore with SPB back up. MAY being the keyword. You can always try it. It wont hurt anything. Worse case scenraio; Hard reset.
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That's true. Since it's basically the stock ROM, I might have a shot. I guess the one thing that might be a problem would be your IE6 update.
lexluthor said:
bkurek,
How do you "go through so many roms"? Isn't it an hour or more to reinstall all of your apps and personal settings or is there some easier way that I'm missing?
I can't restore with SPB Backup, right?
Would you say this rom is noticeably faster?
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I go through them because I enjoy doing so and I'm looking for what *I* want. Yes it can be that long but I don't go through all the motions until I've found the right combination/foundation to build on. I did not for instance configure ALL of my email accounts or setup active synch in vista, etc etc
Yes it does feel very snappy but just like anything else you'll find it to be faster today and go back to *****ing about how slow it is tomorrow. It's a matter of perception in the end. You'll always want more. I'm actually more interested in a stable build than a faster one because I already know it'll never be as fast as I want it to be. I have experienced a myriad of stability issues that if I don't find a remedy for I will return this phone. They manifest mostly in the messaging components at this time. I have not had to soft reset a phone this much since 1990-something. Speaking of which, as a completely uninteresting side note, I have not posted to a forum since early 1990-something but the point is that I do like this device and would like to see it improved upon is why I am taking the time to post now. It’s a cool phone. Give it some time. Someone, somewhere will make it faster and more stable. I think.
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I relfashed my phone, installed and it worked for me. It still does the three times to load problem. Two errors that you just click though then the third time it starts. THis is the EXACT behavior of the stock ROM. It crashes twice on the Stock ROM as well.
Also did you install to storage card or main memory? I only install to main memory.
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Interesting. My stock did not have this problem but it came pre-loaded with VZ NAV. Third time is the charm.
Program files and things I don't want to lose always go to main for me.
anyone seen this on the PCD website, an MR2 upgrade? whats it do? any ideas?
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=89&cid=1&mid=287&carrier=Verizon Wireless
Changes from MR1 to MR2:
Radio:
3.37.75 to 3.37.78
Imgfs:
OEMDrivers\msm7500usbfn.dll
OEMDrivers\gpsid_qct.dll
OEMDrivers\oemgpsone.dll
OEMApps\62d9d90d-ce88-4d26-80bf-501516399504.rgu
XIP:
OEMXIPKernel\nk.exe\S000
The XIP change just updates the build date. The rgu change adds this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PhoneInfo]
"FixedERIDestination"="ERI/00004"
DCD, I may have it wrong but you don't seem to be a guy who appreciates the 'mushy' moments. Warning, mushy moment ahead...
Welcome back DCD! We missed you!
...end mushy moment.
Did you get your computer fixed then?
dcd1182 said:
Changes from MR1 to MR2:
Radio:
3.37.75 to 3.37.78
Imgfs:
OEMDrivers\msm7500usbfn.dll
OEMDrivers\gpsid_qct.dll
OEMDrivers\oemgpsone.dll
OEMApps\62d9d90d-ce88-4d26-80bf-501516399504.rgu
XIP:
OEMXIPKernel\nk.exe\S000
The XIP change just updates the build date. The rgu change adds this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PhoneInfo]
"FixedERIDestination"="ERI/00004"
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I appreciate the help DCD, now can you please explain in slightly simpler terms whether you think I should install this or not? currently on the MR1 rom and the GPS unlock, and I have been pretty happy with my 3.37.75. I dont know what the imgfs stuff you said is about. Thanks and im honored you repsonded to a post of MINE!!!! LOL THANKS.
tmanner said:
I appreciate the help DCD, now can you please explain in slightly simpler terms whether you think I should install this or not? currently on the MR1 rom and the GPS unlock, and I have been pretty happy with my 3.37.75. I dont know what the imgfs stuff you said is about. Thanks and im honored you repsonded to a post of MINE!!!! LOL THANKS.
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I think the radio gets updated from 3.37.75 to 3.37.78 and there are three newer files, msm7500usbfn.dll, gpsid_qct.dll and oemgpsone.dll. He says the XIP change just updates the build date and the .rgu file changes the registry key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PhoneInfo]
"FixedERIDestination"="ERI/00004"
Looking at the new files, msm7500 is the chipset so it looks like this might be an updated usb driver. The other two files deal with the GPS chipset. The registry change though I'm not sure what the FixedERIDestination key does but it looks like it has to do with the phone.
This is mostly speculation though and if I'm wrong, I apologize for the misinformation.
I do wonder if the MR2 has to do with Verizon's change of stance on locking out 3rd party GPS apps. Anyone try this update?
I tried it (getting a new 6800 tomorrow as the slider is dead on this one). 24.6 meg at start up. NO GPS. Will use DCD on my new one tomorrow.
The 'readme' included with the update says:
Some of the primary enhancements with this upgrade are:
• Enhancement to VZNavigator performance.
• Voice calls performance improvement on Motorola network.
Too bad they did not provide any other information....
I'm tempted to install this to see if I can get better call quality at home. Is there any way to determine if a particular location is 'on Mototola network'?
can't get GPS work with tomtom 7 after upgrade to MR2
wet back to dcd 4.1.2 cuz no GPS lock
I'm running the MR2 ROM and my impression is that it feels and works very similar to the MR1 ROM (no real surprise given the tiny change log) The GPS fixes I'd been using on MR1 work just fine on MR2.
I dont use many programs, but the stuff I run seems to work great
* BAF's GPSToggle
* Skywing's GPSServer
* Live Search
* Mochasoft 5250
* Outlook
* Internet Explorer
* ArcSoft MMS
* Cyberon Voice Recognition
Memory at boot:
Total: 46.92
Used: 22.20
Free: 24.72
FYI, .NET 3.5 will not install on this new ROM.
I contacted Verizon, waiting for a response
i recently have the MR2 on my tp2 but im gettin a notification when i send a mm message. the message i get is" Connect- in order to send/download MM messages, the currentactive connectionmay be closed (this may affect other applicationsin use). do you want to continue" and it will not send unless i select yes and it get the same notification when receiving MM messages also. does anyone know how to get this thing off, anyone else gettin this notification on there screen. im with verizon
gmm6797 said:
FYI, .NET 3.5 will not install on this new ROM.
I contacted Verizon, waiting for a response
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Worked fine for me, I used the same CAB that I'd used on the MR1 ROM. I think GPS Weather Radar and maybe WiFiFoFum use .NET, both work just fine.
horbeme said:
i recently have the MR2 on my tp2 but im gettin a notification when i send a mm message. the message i get is" Connect- in order to send/download MM messages, the currentactive connectionmay be closed (this may affect other applicationsin use). do you want to continue" and it will not send unless i select yes and it get the same notification when receiving MM messages also. does anyone know how to get this thing off, anyone else gettin this notification on there screen. im with verizon
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I'm getting this too, I found a CAB that claims to disable this but it makes a whole lot of other "tweaks" that I don't want. I suspect there's a registry setting but don't know what or where. Hopefully somebody will come up with a fix.
Hi guys, kind of confused with the build numbers, which build is the newest build for WM 6.5 that I can use with my Titan? Any good ROM suggestions on that build? Thanks guys.
Watch this fourm...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=54678
The moment a new build is released, they post about it there. The newest as of today (not sure if they have released a rom for the titan yet) is 21812 but, it seems to change every other day
I've been running 21806 the last few days and it has been great so far.
LOL, 21812 is already out!
Yeah I saw that less than a day after I had my phone how I wanted it. Ugh... it's like waiting for the new CPU or new car model to be released.
I have a question. How are the 6.5 ROM's obtained exactly? I'd like to start getting involved, cooking, etc. Currently running 21812, but don't care for the RAM and battery meters, or the "fave people" plugin.
Shoot2ill said:
I have a question. How are the 6.5 ROM's obtained exactly? I'd like to start getting involved, cooking, etc. Currently running 21812, but don't care for the RAM and battery meters, or the "fave people" plugin.
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If you don't like the meters the goto windows\startup folder and delete the two files. dcibattery and qwertymemory
Use chome editor to remove the fave people plugin.
mattsm said:
If you don't like the meters the goto windows\startup folder and delete the two files. dcibattery and qwertymemory
Use chome editor to remove the fave people plugin.
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Error Deleting File
Cannot delete 'dciBattery': There has been a sharing violation.
The source or destination file may be in use.
Thanks guys
Thanks guy, looks like I upgraded a week early and I'm going to have to upgrade again today. Thanks for the link, guess this is what we put up with for wanting the latest and greatest.
Shoot2ill said:
Error Deleting File
Cannot delete 'dciBattery': There has been a sharing violation.
The source or destination file may be in use.
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I had the same problem. What worked for me is cutting them and paste them into a different folder and then deleting the files from there. Weird but worked.
Shoot2ill said:
I have a question. How are the 6.5 ROM's obtained exactly? I'd like to start getting involved, cooking, etc. Currently running 21812, but don't care for the RAM and battery meters, or the "fave people" plugin.
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Check Out this link
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=70427
jmartin72 said:
Check Out this link
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=70427
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Yeah I'm posting on that thread as we speak. What I meant by obtain is how they get the ROM releases. Do we lowly members just have to keep waiting for a developer to post them on the forums?
I guess this sort of answers my question.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=976417&postcount=547
Are you asking on how to create your own rom ? I'm also looking for the way to create my own rom and figure out how to troubleshoot problems with them. A lot of rom creators use PPCkitchen to create there roms by putting in the files for the new builds then building it on there and there is other kitchens for some builds as well.
Where they are coming from ? Chinese or Japanese sites, I forget the link, they have them all listed there, it tends to pop up from those sites, then trickles down to ppcgeeks, then to xda... With some searching in that fourm I linked before, you'll see links to the builds on there.
Ayatokahmina said:
I had the same problem. What worked for me is cutting them and paste them into a different folder and then deleting the files from there. Weird but worked.
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Thanks. Will try that.
So these roms still do not work with the camera? I remember reading about it. Is it worth it? I know you have even less memory on startup. I just wish 6.1 would be able to use the marketplace.
segadc said:
So these roms still do not work with the camera? I remember reading about it. Is it worth it? I know you have even less memory on startup. I just wish 6.1 would be able to use the marketplace.
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They certainly do work with the camera. There are two modes, though:
High Memory Mode -> You cannot use the camera, but you gain an addition 5ish meg of RAM.
Low Memory Mode -> You can use your camera, but RAM is lower.
You can switch back and forth at will with a simple utility in your Settings menu and then soft resetting.
Oh wow that is cool. Hmmm. Maybe I will wait for development when fellow xda members can update an os without clearing any data. But hearing that is tempting. I would probably just leave the camera on. Maybe someone should make a new lighter camera for that mode. In the mean time I will look for some WM6.5 on Titan videos.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=980757&postcount=5052
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