I have a htc x7500 with spl 3.5 and MichyPrima's ROM 4.1.
1.download the rar file http://rapidshare.com/files/155531641/manila_test_for_athena.rar.html
2.copy the 3 dll into windows folder
3.reboot
4.disable any today plugin
5.reboot
6.install manilla cab and reboot
manila is running at last and it is the original one from diamond
the images are corrupted and the speed is slow
i think that the problem is the open gl driver (not the d3d one)
if some one could make one better libGLES_CM.dll we could have the best plugin running to
our 5" vga display
we need better open gl drivers HELP......
ANYONE....
there is another thread for kaiser, this one is only for athenas
johnripper said:
I have a htc x7500 with spl 3.5 and MichyPrima's ROM 4.1.
1.download the rar file http://rapidshare.com/files/155531641/manila_test_for_athena.rar.html
2.copy the 3 dll into windows folder
3.reboot
4.disable any today plugin
5.reboot
6.install manilla cab and reboot
manila is running at last and it is the original one from diamond
the images are corrupted and the speed is slow
i think that the problem is the open gl driver (not the d3d one)
if some one could make one better libGLES_CM.dll we could have the best plugin running to
our 5" vga display
we need better open gl drivers HELP......
ANYONE....
there is another thread for kaiser, this one is only for athenas
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rewrite the kaiser/polaris 3d drivers and u can get manila to run properly. until u do that it will be useless. btw the athena project team have tried to get it to run. though at the time there was no 3d drivers for kaiser or polaris that we could rewrite to get it working. try contacting cmonex and olipro though i know them and unless u give them a good reason why they wont waste their time.
Pawel062 said:
rewrite the kaiser/polaris 3d drivers and u can get manila to run properly. until u do that it will be useless. btw the athena project team have tried to get it to run. though at the time there was no 3d drivers for kaiser or polaris that we could rewrite to get it working. try contacting cmonex and olipro though i know them and unless u give them a good reason why they wont waste their time.
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glad to hear you tried to get it running. I assumed you had. I also guess you had diamond roms long before anyone else did and tried to port it. (my guess based on your obtaining snapvue)
and good advice about those two, they obviously have more important stuff to be doing...
especially as manilla 2d runs ok. well it does on my athena
rorydaredkign said:
especially as manilla 2d runs ok. well it does on my athena
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I have been following the VGA TF2D threads and I haven't gotten anything to run successfully. Can you share where you got this and what dpi you run?
rorydaredkign said:
glad to hear you tried to get it running. I assumed you had. I also guess you had diamond roms long before anyone else did and tried to port it. (my guess based on your obtaining snapvue)
and good advice about those two, they obviously have more important stuff to be doing...
especially as manilla 2d runs ok. well it does on my athena
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yea even have some diamond roms that didnt have touchflo 3d but had everything else. remember i kinda said but not flat out about a qvga touchflo 3d. i didnt have it but i had info of it at the same time as i heard about diamond. and also have known about the touchflo 2d devices since i knew about diamond.
long store short i have even had touchflo 3d the first versions for a while and tried to run them on the athena.
i been away for a while now but if i got back into the loop i bet htc has some nice stuff lined up. though i do know of some plans
edit: let me get you all straight with how to get some of this stuff running and give u all some of the info i have about touchflo 2d and 3d. as far as i know touchflo3d has always been linked to and looks for the 3d drivers so it can work. in order to get it functioning you would have to create those 3d drivers so it can run. also from what i know they would most likely have different named due to the ati acceleration vs qualcomm 7200 acceleration so u would have to edit the dlls and files of manilla to look for those files instead. manilla 2d probably also has some dependencies( in other words files) that are not there and it needs them to be able to function. the athena most likely has those but they are just probably named differently so u would again have to edit the manilla 2d files to look for the files the athena does have. sorry this is long but its hard to explain all this.
i really like manila3d,now im using big htchome bud the moment manila wil work on athena i changed immediatly
really hope somebody can fix it!
Refresh link to download! It is very necessary! please! If not hard to send to your mailbox! [email protected]
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Refresh link to download! It is very necessary! please! If not hard to send to your mailbox! [email protected]
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if you have trouble to download it, You can download it at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=COUDNR90
and where the file ddl? You can upgrade the entire distribution??
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i would have posted it sooner but for some reason it would not let me
so anywho here it is.
* this version is only for devices with vga screen
thanks irus
Very useful ,did you write it or find it elsewhere?
Hi there,
what's it for ???
Thanks
it selects a folder to display photos from
whereas the original program defaults to the camera storage directory
it also has some cool gestures to control the images
thank you!!!!
lakeman said:
Very useful ,did you write it or find it elsewhere?
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i Originally modified the program for vga in pk's dual then i found the program with folder option in qvga and use the files from the other version to make this version vga
irus said:
i Originally modified the program for vga in pk's dual then i found the program with folder option in qvga and use the files from the other version to make this version vga
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Well , thanks for that.
I found the other version( with folder option) later when I went looking but wasn't aware that it would not work on the athena in vga
any1 care to share where to find the qvga version?? thks.
search for a thread titled "htc album but...." its something like that
Thanks for writing app.
I tried it on my e-ten x800. It worked. But the interface is still in the up-left quarter of my VGA screen. Only the phones display in full screen. Is there any configuration I need to set so the control interface can be in full screen mode?
Thanks
Yes, same for me with my X800. What to do?
hi, same thing happened to me with my eten x800... any setting to do it?
Another x800 owner here, and been looking for (HTC) VGA apps for quite some time.
Unfortunatly almost only HTC apps fail to run smoothly because they fixed the location of stuff by coordinates rather than it gets scaled I'm told.
What does work is HTC Backupm which is quite useless to me.
I would love to see a VGA compatibe version of the Album, CommManager, 3G Dialer and random access.
Guess we got to wait till HTC releases VGA devices which won't be for quite some months.
iruja said:
Another x800 owner here, and been looking for (HTC) VGA apps for quite some time.
Unfortunatly almost only HTC apps fail to run smoothly because they fixed the location of stuff by coordinates rather than it gets scaled I'm told.
What does work is HTC Backupm which is quite useless to me.
I would love to see a VGA compatibe version of the Album, CommManager, 3G Dialer and random access.
Guess we got to wait till HTC releases VGA devices which won't be for quite some months.
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or you can do some quick xml editing of the x , y coordinate system to get it how you like. dont for get to go into\windows and delete "ha_skin_cache_l.dat" and/or "ha_skin_cache_p.dat"
as the name suggest its the cache file for those xml files and need to be deleted every time you update the xml files. if you don't see the dat files there then you should be ok.
iruja said:
Another x800 owner here, and been looking for (HTC) VGA apps for quite some time.
Unfortunatly almost only HTC apps fail to run smoothly because they fixed the location of stuff by coordinates rather than it gets scaled I'm told.
What does work is HTC Backupm which is quite useless to me.
I would love to see a VGA compatibe version of the Album, CommManager, 3G Dialer and random access.
Guess we got to wait till HTC releases VGA devices which won't be for quite some months.
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OK - so this is an app that spmeone has got working in VGA on the Athena which is an HTC VGA device and you're complaining that it doesn't work on your x800 and that HTC won't release VGA devices for some months?
We have VGA devices and nice people who get things working for us and post them in HTC Athena specific forums - don't moan that they don't work on your poxy Etens!
Once installed in my X7500 (spanish oficial WM5 ROM) the program as to reset my PDA. So I did it. Then I launch the program and said something about missing certificate or part.
Not working at all. So I uninstall it.
Confucious said:
OK - so this is an app that spmeone has got working in VGA on the Athena which is an HTC VGA device and you're complaining that it doesn't work on your x800 and that HTC won't release VGA devices for some months?
We have VGA devices and nice people who get things working for us and post them in HTC Athena specific forums - don't moan that they don't work on your poxy Etens!
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Wow, that's quite an attack on us e-ten users.
HTC hasn't released any regular candystaick like devices, just some sub-notebook alike devices.
And these devices don't contain those apps.
As it's hard to find any vga working apps you naturally see us x800/m800/x500+ users all over the universal and athena forums, so get used to it.
As it's now HTC is pretty much falling behind the competition, they focused to much on the mid-market and haven't released a power-user candybar for quite some time, and that's my reason for switching to e-ten for the past year now, and my x800 should last another year.
If you ask me, atm E-ten and some other brands do have the better devices out there than HTC.
The only thing HTC is really good at, and no-one can deny is coding real nice apps, on my late x500 I only had freeware and HTC apps running.
It was not meant as an attack on eten users, just on them moaning that something that someone has got working on the Athena and posted in the Athena forum doesn't work on the Etens.
This is a forum for Athena users - No problem with others using the apps designed for Athenas but if you want to moan do it in an Eten forum not the Athena one!
Hi,
The link doesnt work.
Anyone seen ver. for HTC touch dual? (not sure if it's VGA one).
Thnx
irus said:
i would have posted it sooner but for some reason it would not let me
so anywho here it is.
* this version is only for devices with vga screen
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Didn't work on my Sprint Touch Pro. It looked like small like QVGA. And also different lettering...
hi,
i'm actually not a developer or an expert i just have this new device along with my HTC Kaiser. I want to have Manila 2d or 3d for it. I searched the forum but as i said i'm not experet i found some threads that have so many files and every link just directs u to another thread. So i hope someone could help simple ppl like me by putting the files here with simple instructions to follow i mean if there're some files to replace in the Windows folder or whatever.
Thanks
well this work?
HTC Home For VGA
http://www.mediafire.com/?uutdmmvdhfn
btw, i tried SPD but frankly it was slow on my device don't know why. there's a point I but haven't tried it yet.
i need help
i port htc touch rom containg touchflo 3
but there is no finger scrooling available can anybody help me what is wrong ?
did the touchflo 3d work with you?
and which rom did you try?
i read that it is still in porting stage as it is vga
and if it even has been ported it would be too slow
see ya
no man I m not talking about touchflo 3d
I I talking about thouchflo which enable finger scrooling in touch devices like elfin opal
which ROM r u usin.........?????
.....touchflo is enabled nly in prouser n manila vanila ROM....
No i think ankit is talking about full finger scrolling even in applications like MS WORD etc which is not enabled by GWES.exe in Pro Users ROM. HTC Touch (Elf) has it, for more details watch videos on you tube that demonstrate this phone.
@Ankit: Count me in buddy, i'm also wiling to do this on every ROM we have, or atleast on the newer ones. This is a very required feature and i am very sure that it doesnt needs any special hardware.
hi guys...
why not burn the free pointui into a win6.5 ROM with the vizta themes they have on their site...its FAAAAST and the themes look REALLY cool!
any feedback?
Regards
hotdoc0
PointUI 2's development is going on very fast. I dont think it will be wise to include it in ROM. THat would hamper updates.
sumit u got my point
now we want to know why it not working
is it required different touch.dll or some registry tweaking
I really dont have much idea about it, but i am searching for it. It can be related to gwes.exe and touch.dll but i suspect HTCStroke.dll, HTCGesture.dll and possibly Biotouch.dll which are part of the package HTCGesture in opal ROM, are reponsible for that functionality. Will try find out more.
@all: Can anybody please suggest me a tool that can be used to view exported functions inside Windows Mobile DLLs? There is a tool that comes with Visual Studio 6 and up called depends.exe that allows that for PC based DLLs but is there something for pocket pc as well?
@Ankit: I think the SmartTouch solve this problem. It is a complement to the touch flo and can be configured to work with different apps. In the RGU of the package already have some apps configured. You can find it in the ROM of iolite.
ramersonw said:
@Ankit: I think the SmartTouch solve this problem. It is a complement to the touch flo and can be configured to work with different apps. In the RGU of the package already have some apps configured. You can find it in the ROM of iolite.
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i try it its not working i think its for navi-wheel not for touch screen
Rightly said ankit. I too tried the HTC Diamond version of it and it didn't worked, and from the registry settings and all, i too got this feeling that its for some navi-wheel instead of touch screen.
Really the SmartTouch is for NaviWheel. Sorry. I will seek some solution, if I find i'll post here.
ankit360 said:
i try it its not working i think its for navi-wheel not for touch screen
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I think I saw in the dev / hack section that to get tf3d work you need specific tf3d compatible dlls, please search that forum, about porting tf3d.
^^Hey buddy, its not about touchflo 3D actually, Ankit is intrested in getting finger scrolling in all apps.
Hey Ankit, from all the effort i did, here is my conclusion on this issue:
There are two things that enable finger scrolling in WIndows Mobile:
1. MSTouch: This is the functionality built into WIndows Mobile inside the GWES.exe file which runs the graphical windowing system. All the latest builds of Windows mobile has this, including my 6.1 ROMs and your Wm 6.5 ROMs.
2. Touch.dll driver and Biotouch.exe a.k.a TouchFlo: In HTC Touch (Elf) and the others like that. touchscreen hardware is different and so is the driver. The touch.dll that comes with GENE is 27.7 KB in size while in all these touch phones, its about 57.7 KB in size. Apart from this, if you observe closely, the touch phones like elf can differentiate between a finger touch and a stylus touch. For example, if you open a long document in word and use finger with it, it scrolls, but if you use your thumbnail or stylus with it, it will select text. So its a hardware feature not only software. So porting it is out of question if my theory is true. To proove my point, i also tried replacing the touch.dll in OEMDrivers folder with one from Elf, it didnt worked. Device got started but touchscreen was not responding at all.
So thats that. I think we can only have partial fingerscrolling support in our gene using MSTouch. Thats it!
Closed as per OP Request.
Dave
Ok, so I finally did it, I flashed a cooked ROM to my Fuze. Whew! I did run into a snag or two, but all is good now and I am even ready to try another one to see some of the differences.
I do have a couple of questions though. Flame me if you must, I can take the heat. However, trust me when I say, I read everything on this site.
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
2. I would like to try an NRG ROM, but I still can't quite grasp what customRUU is. Am I free to flash one of these with just the HardSPL that I already did? Or do I need somethign else before flashing one that has this in the folder?
3. Since I am still trying to catch up with what's available out there now...what the heck is CHome? At first, I thought someone mispelled that Google browser thing, but soon figured out that can't be it.
Christine
CDnNC said:
Ok, so I finally did it, I flashed a cooked ROM to my Fuze. Whew! I did run into a snag or two, but all is good now and I am even ready to try another one to see some of the differences.
I do have a couple of questions though. Flame me if you must, I can take the heat. However, trust me when I say, I read everything on this site.
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
2. I would like to try an NRG ROM, but I still can't quite grasp what customRUU is. Am I free to flash one of these with just the HardSPL that I already did? Or do I need somethign else before flashing one that has this in the folder?
3. Since I am still trying to catch up with what's available out there now...what the heck is CHome? At first, I thought someone mispelled that Google browser thing, but soon figured out that can't be it.
Christine
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Welcome to the wonderful and addictive world of customized ROMs. It's one of the best ways to get the most from your Raphael, but sometimes we see things that 'aren't quite right' since they haven't gone through the rigor that vendors put their ROMs through. But then again, we get to play with the new, neat stuff!!!
As I understand it, Manila is HTC's interface/Today skin for the Raphael. You don't have to use it, but most ROM's will have it cooked in, so you'll need to go through the 'setup' as the ROM is first booted on your machine. If you don't want to use it, just go to the Today screen settings and de-select the TF entry.
CustomRUU is the application you run to do the actual install from a PC. There's no need to play with it all, just run it, and everything should happen automagically. There's also an option to run the install from a loaded SD card on the unit itself, but I stick to the Activesync connection version myself.
Sorry, can't help with CHome... I have no idea what that is either.
As I said -- welcome!
Therefore you are?
drtolson said:
Sorry, can't help with CHome... I have no idea what that is either.
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ASFAIK, CHome is the new Today interface for Windows Mobile 6.5.
CDnNC said:
1. I chose a "no manilla" version...why did it still have to do the "initial setup of touchflo interface..."? I thought Manilla was TouchFlo and therefore wouldn't need to be there at all. Since I really like SPB MS3, I didn't want anything TouchFlo.
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Do you mean the Stylus Alignment? If so, you should always perform a stylus/screen alignment.
Do you mean the G-Sensor Calibration? If so, you should perform the calibration; although you may not use TF3D, many application can "leverage" the G-Sensor capabilities of the device.
HTH,
hilaireg said:
ASFAIK, CHome is the new Today interface for Windows Mobile 6.5.
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I thought that was 'Titanium'
congratulations
Here ya go:
ConfettiCore is the underlying display component shared between Start Menu and Today screen.
CHome is the Today screen itself.
Titanium is the skin; alternatives are Bronze, Neo.
HTH,
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Thanks Da_G for your ever so wonderful wisdom and knowledge about all that is Windows Mobile ...
CHome and Titanium are somewhat interchangable. They both refer to the new 6.5 "Default" interface. If you have CHome installed on your ROM, go to Start>Settings>Today>Items and check "Windows Default". Everything else will uncheck itself. Now you can see CHome in action. CHome is new and ofcourse not yet released by Microsoft, so it is not flawless. Showaco has made a great tool for editing CHome so that you can control what is on the today screen. It takes bit of playing to figure it out, but give it a go. I really have become hooked on the simple effeciency of CHome.
As for the Initial Setup of Touch Flow, this is a left over from a previous ROM. Most of the ROM chefs, do not bother changing the set-up screens because they do not matter. They are simply something to display while the phone configures itself. Other Chefs seem to enjoy changing this screen, so results may vary. In any event, no need to worry.
RUU is the wrapper that installs your ROM image on the phone. When you download a rom and unzip it into a folder, there usually are 2 files, the RUU and the NBH file. The NBH file is the real ROM image. The RUU or Wrapper is what installs it to the phone. If you unzip a ROM and the wrapper is missing, simply copy it from a different ROM you have unzipped and add it to the folder with teh NBH file you want to flash. The RUU/Wrapper does not change from ROM to ROM, only the NBH changes. With both the RUU and the NBH in a folder, launch the RUU and it will load the ROM in that folder.
HARD SLP is the first step that will allow you to Flash Custom ROMS. AFTER you Hard SPL according to the directions, choose a ROM, download, unzip and launch the wrapper. You must be attached via activesync. After that, off you go.
Enjoy. Every ROM is like getting a new phone.
Doug M.
Showaco Editor:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481379
Thanks Doug, that helps me understand as it makes perfect sense. I appreciate all of the help I find on this site.
Now on to the next step doing that radio flash.
Excellent, Good to see a fellow Charlottean getting hooked on flashing.
Doug M.
Charlotte?
DAMN! For months, I had been thinking "if only one of these XDA guys lived here, he could show me how to do this and I wouldn't be terrified of bricking my phone"...and here you are?!?!?
Actualy, Titanium is the base WM 6.5 user interface\homescreen, chome refers to the dll plugin being utilized by Titanium. chome was ported from the WM 6.1 slidding panels interface made for smartphones and has been optimized by Showaco and others to offer more pluggin options with Titanium!
Manila 3D is HTC's user interface it is used in conjuction with touchflo but they are different things kind of, touchflo just refers to being able to scroll with your fingers and how the physics engine operates.
RUU stands for ROM Update Utility, it creates a bridge to your bootloader from your PC to flash through Active Sync\ Device Manager.
Hope this helps some!
CDnNC said:
DAMN! For months, I had been thinking "if only one of these XDA guys lived here, he could show me how to do this and I wouldn't be terrified of bricking my phone"...and here you are?!?!?
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Well, here I am. I am by no means an expert, but feel free to get in touch any time. My office is near Northlake mall.
Doug M.
LINK TO NEW THREAD !!
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Hello all, I'm looking for a ROM that is 6.5 (preferably 6.5.3) based but with the standard TouchFlo 3D instead of Sense 2.1 or 2.5, as I find that they are way to sluggish on my Fuze. Do any such ROMs exist? If so, could someone point me toward one? I've searched quite a bit and nothing seems to come up.
Don't think there is one, but i can make a very stock one with the original Touch Flo 3D?
just try some of the old energy roms... im am extremely sure he made a couple with tf3d and not sense...
and im also sure its 6.5.3
TheDeadCpu said:
Don't think there is one, but i can make a very stock one with the original Touch Flo 3D?
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Basically what would be ideal would be one based on clean 23518 that had just the plain TouchFlo 3D. If you could do that that would be phenomenal.
I will also take a look at some of the older Energy ROMs although they are a bit big and bloated it seems to me.
chambo622 said:
Basically what would be ideal would be one based on clean 23518 that had just the plain TouchFlo 3D. If you could do that that would be phenomenal.
I will also take a look at some of the older Energy ROMs although they are a bit big and bloated it seems to me.
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UPLOADING NOW!!
But TouchFlo3D is not set as standard, you'll have to set that in "Settings" -> "Today"
Awesome thanks so much! Do you have a donation link?
Well yea, but try it out and see if you like it first
And request fixes and report bugs and stuff
Here you go!
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Hmm download link appears broken, after waiting for the countdown, it says that the file is unavailable.
Wierd.. I get that too..
Il reupload
Fixed
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ROMeOS 3 Public is a newer ROM with TF3D, look here:
http://romeos.monx.biz/index.php?op...OMeOS2_WM65X_23081_301_071109_RAnDIUM_WWE.rar
But not the original TouchFlo 3D? The one the phone is shipped with
Currently testing it out...will let you know how it goes
So far so good, seems very fast and works very nice.
A few things: In MyPhone, the text does not show up in some of the screens, although the softkeys work and I can use it just fine.
I would like to replace the stock WinMo dialer with the nice Raphael dialer although I'm not sure where to find it.
The 5 row Start menu is a little bit cramped.
Internet link on TouchFlo 3D does not work (maybe I have to install Opera, will try installing Opera 10 and find out).
Email tab is called "email" in all lowercase instead of "Mail" (this is very nitpicky I'm just pointing it out)
Thanks so much I'm loving it!
I'll get on that when I'm home from school
I liked this ROM very much but i found some bugs maybe u could fix it..
1. Word Mobile won't Open, It's said to restart device but still won't open
2. some text out of screen, like in mms option server setting
will inform u later if i found others bug..thx
Touch pro roms
Can we see some screen shots
chambo622 said:
Internet link on TouchFlo 3D does not work (maybe I have to install Opera, will try installing Opera 10 and find out).
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Do you have OperaL.exe in windows folder?
No OperaL.exe as far as I can see...should the Opera installer put it there automatically or must it be added manually?