Question About Rom Update For Ppc6800 From Bell!!! - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

okay, so im kinda new to this whole ppc thing, what does rom updates do for your phone? which ones are good? and can you update roms from any other cell phone company like a verizon, (for my bell) and bell blocked the internal gps from the phone is there a way to activate it or to get a gps on my phone...any help would be greatly appreciated!

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ok i looked at it and read all the info but what will it do is it going to make my htc faster..? and what rom is good theres so many different options im lost....

daveb1806 said:
ok i looked at it and read all the info but what will it do is it going to make my htc faster..? and what rom is good theres so many different options im lost....
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Hey dude, don't take this the wrong way. But it sounds like for the meantime you may be better off to stick with official ROM's from your carrier. Upgrading to these custom ROM's really requires someone who has experience and has a better idea of what they want to accomplish.
If you really want to upgrade to one of these, you have a LOT of reading to do to familiarize yourself with the procedures. At worst, you could actually brick your phone (or in other words, render it unusable) if you do something you shouldn't. Although many will try to help you in that case, if it's unrecoverable, nobody here will accept responsibility for that.
If you are unsure, I'd recommend sticking to the official releases for your carrier.
My two cents.
TS

ROM: DCD 3.2.6 with Bell Carrier cab
RADIO: 3.42.40
Install those two, here's what you get:
Slimmed down OS (a bunch of stuff removed in order to free up more RAM)
GPS enabled (you will be able to use 3rd party GPS programs such as TomTom or the GPS feature of Google Maps)
I'm not sure about faster, but the freed up RAM helps with speed. For the most part it's just about getting the most out of your phone.
There is a guide to flashing and I suggest you follow it if you feel that upgrading is something you want to do. Upgrading works for Bell, as I'm on it and it works for me.
You're right, there are a lot of choices, stick to DCD for now and when you get more familiar with the process you can get adventurous.

okay timeshell thanks for the advice but im not a retard i can follow instructions...thanks 88fingerslukee will do ...

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which ROM?

Im seeing allot of ROMs in the ftp but Im not really to sure of which one to choose.
what is your favorite ROM?
cheers
no one?
Does this mean everyone is changing their Rom's without knowing the direct advantages? that seems rather risky
See wiki page Upgrading for beginners:
Please do NOT ask which is the best ROM for you, the Hermes upgrading forum is flooded with this question and we can't really give you an answer: a ROM upgrade is only as good as the comments it has received from the users on the forums, see the top right column of the Shipped Complete Updates table for each ROM's forum link.
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I had a quick look at that list and I noticed that there isn't a ROM for T-Mobile. So what ROM do I have installed on my MDA Vario II?
Also, on my old Wizard I had the Molski ROM installed which seemed to work quite nicely. Are there similar custom ROMs out there. Or are these less common due to the better spec of the Hermes not requiring such customisations?
cooked roms on the hermes still not exists, the bootloader checks signature of the rom updates and it must be signed with proper HTC key... not possible to flash a cooked rom until we can circumvent this.
My 2 pence... use the latest ROM from your carrier if possible. It will generally have better radio/data performance on their network. Also, you'll get the roaming/not-roaming intelligence. This, for example, allows you to set up different sync schedules in certain software based upon roaming which is important in my travels. I don't want push email chewing up data when I'm off network.
Thanks for the info. I thought there would be a good reason!

Help! Too many flavours!

Sooooo all the respected guru's out there, please help me!
There are so many flavours to choose from!
Which ROM is the most complete, stable? I installed the Vanilla ROM. Looks nice. I miss a good messenger though..
Are there any upcoming complete ROMS?
And what about the second camera at the front of the phone? Is it usable as a webcam for a messenger?
Thanksss
dmxl said:
Sooooo all the respected guru's out there, please help me!
There are so many flavours to choose from!
Which ROM is the most complete, stable? I installed the Vanilla ROM. Looks nice. I miss a good messenger though..
Are there any upcoming complete ROMS?
And what about the second camera at the front of the phone? Is it usable as a webcam for a messenger?
Thanksss
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Are you talking about WM6 rom stability? If so these are still BETA versions with all of us as the testers (version 02 is still only a few hours old).
I can't test these because my phone's broken, but reading the threads for both Kyphurs and Vanilla rom they appear to be mostly stable and faster, but have some known issues - most of these are listed in the first couple of posts in the release threads (or burried in the discussions).
The only way to test if they are stable for you is to load them and the relevant fixes to known issues - then report back to the rest of the forum with any new problems to help make the next release better. Have fun...
Heh.. If you want stable, wait for your carrier to present you with the ROM..
Everything on this site is "take it with a grain of salt"
Granted, I loaded XDA v0.1 and then XDA v0.2 and aside from a few items, they seem to both work very well.
As with any "testing" you may have issues, and/or brick your unit.. there is always a chance..
GL and hopefully you have fun testing out Windows Mobile 6 on your phone.
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the [ROM] kitchen!
Just kidding, but not really.
richy240 said:
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the [ROM] kitchen!
Just kidding, but not really.
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I agree.
dmxl said:
And what about the second camera at the front of the phone? Is it usable as a webcam for a messenger?
Thanksss
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You could use coolcamera.........it works as a streaming USB webcam. I opened a thread on this a while back take a look?
Thanks for the replies all of you.
I have two HTC Hermes pda's. One is kind of bricked. The other one is superCID. Is there a benefit of flashing the device with the AKU 2.06 Cingular ROM, compaired to the available HTC ROM's?
dmxl said:
Thanks for the replies all of you.
I have two HTC Hermes pda's. One is kind of bricked. The other one is superCID. Is there a benefit of flashing the device with the AKU 2.06 Cingular ROM, compaired to the available HTC ROM's?
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If you want WM5 and are on Cingular, then use the AKU 3.3 leaked Cingular ROM.
If you want WM6 then the choices are a plenty.
wpbear said:
If you want WM5 and are on Cingular, then use the AKU 3.3 leaked Cingular ROM.
If you want WM6 then the choices are a plenty.
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Wpbear, thanks. I'm not on Cingular, I have an original HTC, but my device is superCID though.
Ofcourse I would like the latest WM6. But how stable is it? Should I try the the LVSW version?
Thanks!
dmxl said:
Wpbear, thanks. I'm not on Cingular, I have an original HTC, but my device is superCID though.
Ofcourse I would like the latest WM6. But how stable is it? Should I try the the LVSW version?
Thanks!
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Spending a 5 minutes reading the LVSW thread will give you a very good idea how stable it is. Runs fine on mine
dmxl said:
Wpbear, thanks. I'm not on Cingular, I have an original HTC, but my device is superCID though.
Ofcourse I would like the latest WM6. But how stable is it? Should I try the the LVSW version?
Thanks!
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They are all about the same, quirky just like all Hermes ROM's.
wpbear said:
They are all about the same, quirky just like all Hermes ROM's.
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compaired to:
Wam7 said:
Spending a 5 minutes reading the LVSW thread will give you a very good idea how stable it is. Runs fine on mine
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Comparing the above statement of Wpbear with Wam7's, does not clarify things for me in 1 minute reading here.
Is it possible and wise if I wish to stay with WM5 for a while, to upgrade my superCID HTC device with the Cingular AKU 3.3 ROM, since there isn't a shipped AKU 3.3 ROM from HTC?
If I choose for WM6, do I choose the LVSW or XDA Live 0.20 edition?
And which Extended ROM suits best with either one?
Thanks.
dmxl said:
Comparing the above statement of Wpbear with Wam7's, does not clarify things for me in 1 minute reading here.
Thanks.
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You see, that 1 minute reading is part of the problem. Just spending a few more minutes skimming through the relevant threads will indicate whether a particular ROM is for you. If you do not have the time or inclination to try them yourselves that is the least you can do.
There is no contradiction between mine and Wpbear's statement. On one hand I read through the LSVW Rom thread and quickly came to the conclusion that I would try it and so far I have no problems... I did have a low memory problem with the XDA .20 which was easily solved with a reg fix.
Wpbear is saying all the ROMS have different quirks; what one person has a problem with somebody else will say it runs fine... quirks.
There is a tacit feeling that too many people expect easy answers and to be spoon fed without putting in a little leg work themselves.
best of both worlds!!
I installed lvsw rom, updated radio to 1.34, next i had taken an spb backup of an previously installed xda live 0.20 and restored it on top of the lvsw rom, reinstalled a couple proggies, deleted an invalid startup, and voila! The most stable rom and os i ever experienced on a ppc. All done yesterday, and not one time did i have to soft reset behind instability! how did i learn how to do this? all i did was let the forum talk, and i read!
princeasi said:
I installed lvsw rom, updated radio to 1.34, next i had taken an spb backup of an previously installed xda live 0.20 and restored it on top of the lvsw rom, reinstalled a couple proggies, deleted an invalid startup, and voila! The most stable rom and os i ever experienced on a ppc. All done yesterday, and not one time did i have to soft reset behind instability! how did i learn how to do this? all i did was let the forum talk, and i read!
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May ask what was the "invalid start up" you deleted?
I think the best thing to do is flash ROMs to the phone and try them... eventually settling on the one you like best... why you need people to tell you what to put on your device is beyond me.
Wam7 said:
You see, that 1 minute reading is part of the problem.
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I said I spent 1 minute reading here, I did not say I didn't read other threads. Maybe I should have indicated cleary here that I read through most threads about the new ROM's, so people would not make hasty conclusions.
Wpbear is saying all the ROMS have different quirks; what one person has a problem with somebody else will say it runs fine... quirks.
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Wpbear is not saying that all ROM's have different problems, but all ROM's are the same, quircky, like all HTC ROM's.
So when you tell me "what one person has a problem with, somebody else will say it runs fine", You can not understand why things remain unclear to me? I mean, the people trying out these ROMS are all using a HTC Hermes like me. So it would be a big guess, I could have problems, or I could not.
There is a tacit feeling that too many people expect easy answers and to be spoon fed without putting in a little leg work themselves.
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I'm sure there are people like that.
Princeasi: thanks for your reply.
Olipro: Ok you're basicly saying when I read this forum, and things are unclear to me what ROM to use, that because this is not unclear to you or others, I should shut up and not ask questions?
no, I think you should just try the ROMs yourself; flash Hard-SPL if you're worried about buggering your phone up, and then start plopping ROMs onto your device.
Reading the respective threads of the ROMs you try is generally a good idea since what's contained in them is listed in a far greater detail than anybody will go to the effort of writing here.
Might I add, that which ROM you use is a matter of personal taste, therefore there is no "right" or "wrong" ROM to use; therefore, how you can say "things are unclear to me what ROM to use" makes no sense.
at best you're too lazy to trawl the threads to look up the information yourself; as I said earlier, the respective ROM threads will tell you far more substantial information if you can make the effort to actually read through it... failing that, flash it to your phone.
Olipro said:
no, I think you should just try the ROMs yourself; flash Hard-SPL if you're worried about buggering your phone up, and then start plopping ROMs onto your device.
Reading the respective threads of the ROMs you try is generally a good idea since what's contained in them is listed in a far greater detail than anybody will go to the effort of writing here.
Might I add, that which ROM you use is a matter of personal taste, therefore there is no "right" or "wrong" ROM to use; therefore, how you can say "things are unclear to me what ROM to use" makes no sense.
at best you're too lazy to trawl the threads to look up the information yourself; as I said earlier, the respective ROM threads will tell you far more substantial information if you can make the effort to actually read through it... failing that, flash it to your phone.
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Asking which ROM to use does make sense, since I asked in my first post: Which is most COMPLETE and STABLE. I then mean, compared to original ones. You get it? In the first post I'm not asking about my PERSONAL ROM taste, but the most COMPLETE and STABLE. Since I'm not lazy, and read all the threads, I did not become wiser about which is the most stable one. Besides this, even Wpbear is saying: "what one person has a problem with, somebody else will say it runs fine". You might concider it to be a possibility that for one person reading all the threads makes him less wiser then some other person reading the threads. This doesn't right away mean he's lazy, does it?
All the threads are about ROM's for someone running fine and some other running awful. So no, I do not think my question is stupid, or out of lazyness.
well... I'm afraid to say that "COMPLETE and STABLE" is something that is rather subjective since unless a ROM is totally broken, it's generally not that easy to work out how much more "COMPLETE" or how much more "STABLE" it is.
also, in terms of how "COMPLETE" it is, you can easily work that out by checking what's bundled into the app.
so really, I fall back to my original point that you should try the ROMs for yourself.

stupid question needs clarification

why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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To get certain things that stock ROMS don't have. Like: Speed, not loaded with Carrier crap.
The ROM post should have info about what is included and what isn't.
Some are made to have more RAM some are made to run Smoother.
Wiki.
I might be wrong, but that is what I have learned overtime.
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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Who is your carrier?
Good Question
I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
Cranemachine said:
I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
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Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
scrosler said:
Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
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Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
Cranemachine said:
Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
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I cant do a video, lack the ability, hehehe... I can however tell you this:
It looks and actis identical to the Stock ROM from VZW except is was built on a new CE OS. Its considerably snapier than the stock ROM in everything from boot up to touchflo scrolling.
Its 99.99% stock. The only differnece is the speed, IE 6, ICS, and Net CF 3.5 is all cooked in. It, unlike all other custom ROM's, has all stock VZW apps and the VZW touchFlow. Its a straight rip from a stock VZW leaked ROM. The details ont he ROM and the kitchen used are in the new thread.
Its just to easy to do.
Download file A, run it. Download file B, run it. Its not that much harder in all honesty.
pierhogunn said:
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
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This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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cforster said:
This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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Awesome Link!!! I just wish they had this same thing for the VZW Version!
Another stupid question...
Well I think this would be the appropriate thread to ask this.
I was wondering if there was any way to put 2 today screens into one instead of having to switch. Basically I am wanting a Touch Flo today screen at the top and the bottom half I would like to have a WinMo today screen with the two quick buttons at the bottom. Is this possible or am I just wanting too much? It seems like the themes for the Touch Flo look much better and I LOVE the black themes.
Any info. would be much appreciated!

Upgrading my XV6800 to WM6.5

I've been reading through a couple of threads on this board concerning upgrading my XV6800 to WM6.5 and I have what may possibly be some stupid questions.
First - I'm the happy owner of two XV6800's so I was planning on using the not-currently-activated one as my guinea pig in case I brick the phone. I've downloaded what appear to be the most current upgrade files from theUnlockr.com and some instructions from that site. What I need to know is is theUnlockr a reliable site? Are these the most current files available? I'm currently upgraded to the 3.57.605.2 ROM and the 3.37.78 radio and I am looking to upgrade the HardSPL (which is what, exactly?), the radio (to 3.42.50 - which, if I am not mistaken, someone mentioned was eating battery life?) and the ROM using the version Unlockr has up as their latest favorite (RMverizonTitanWM65V2[1].1Heavy). I am pretty sure I can follow the directions that were given, but I'm hoping someone here can advise me if I should.
With all these updates running around everyone's 'kitchens' - it's hard for a relative noob like me to know which is the best update for her. I don't really need GPS - though I may load Garmin XT on my phone at some point - but I would like to have an efficient, elegant ROM on my phone that will not hog all my memory and will still give me at least all my current functionality (though hopefully more). Should I even be looking to update to WM6.5? Which update version do you folks think is the best for the Titan/Mogul/XV6800?
Thank you in advance for your patience and for the AMAZINGLY generous soul who has spent the time to generate these files! I went to the Verizon site and they don't seem to even remember what the 6800 looks like! And HTC doesn't have much either. I was amazed to find these sites. You guys are a godsend!
Ariel
Follow below just use whatever rom you want. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
arielphf said:
Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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The Titan is a very durable device. In my experience you can flash it at least a hundred times..
So my advice is to try as many ROMs as you like. 6.1, 6.5, Light, Heavy, Naked, Stock. Whatever it doesnt matter. Just keep going until you find what floats your boat.
LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
arielphf said:
LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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No problem sir. Glad I could be of assistance. My main computer is broke at the moment and I awaiting a new power supply now, currently using my spare computer (I dont have a spare 1000watt power supply to run my main pc for the banterers lol). Or else I would have my ROMs updated. More for you to mess around with. But the ones I have uploaded now should work out fine. I noticed in the nuetools folder though the leds shortcut is a folder. I fixed that though just have to re-cook and re-upload. Among other changes.
If I were to upgrade to the fix you describe, I'd only have to do the ROM again, right? The hardSPL and radio would be fine? See? I told you, stupid questions...
you are correct only the rom

[Q] Help flashing/rooting hd2

i've just bought an HTC HD2....and i'm coming to htc from iphone.
i'm wanting to use a different rom on my phone. all the froyo roms have been letting me down. loss of signal, no wifi the usual. but ive been running them off my sd card...clrcad---haret.
i'm wanting actually flash the phone as i'm finding htc winmo a bit of a let down. i know it wasnt critically acclaimed but i didnt think it'd be as clunky as it is.
i have read all about hspl/sspl but i cant seem to find any tutorial on flashing the phone for noobs. like i said i am new to this and i appreciate the fact that the turorials are out there but i'm coming to a bit of a stumbling block.
when trying to find info on installing a modded/hacked spl...i cant seem to find any which relates to spl-3.03.0000 XE. I just dont want to brick my phone and want as much info as possible befre i attempt it. Any help would be greatly appreciated
htc hd2 (leo), network unlock (factory),o2UK contract sim, spl-3.03.000 xe, rom version 3.14.405.2 (04666) wwe, radio version 2.15.50.14.
Hey, first of all welcome to the world of proper phones
Sorry, couldn't resist.....
At the moment its not possible to flash android to the device memory, its not that far away though....
Finding a good reliable build is a lot of trial and error I'm afraid...
I've currently settled on the nexus one build, its running much better than any of the builds with HTC sense.
As for winmo, I'd reccomend flashing a custom rom, dutty's, artemis and energy roms seem to be the most popular, and installing Cht 2.0 if you haven't already.
Check the stickys in the rom development section for guides on flashing and such... if its a tmo us then check the tmo us section to make sure your on the right track.
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