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I just got the PPC-6800 through Sprint and installed the Google Maps on it. I cannot get the "My Location" feature to work. I am wondering if this is not compatible with Sprint's CDMA. Does any one have information on this?
I am also unable to get the new My Location feature working with Sprint CDMA and dcd's 1.6.7 ROM (not that I think this is an issue with the ROM). I have not tried with my external BT GPS receiver.
drew826 said:
I am also unable to get the new My Location feature working with Sprint CDMA and dcd's 1.6.7 ROM (not that I think this is an issue with the ROM). I have not tried with my external BT GPS receiver.
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titan does not support gps yet. but it should work with the bt gps receiver.
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titan does not support gps yet.
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As i understand it, the latest version of Google Maps has the ability to "guesstimate" your location based on fancy cell-tower triangulation, not requiring a GPS device. I assume that this is the "My Location" feature referenced. I could be wrong.
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As i understand it, the latest version of Google Maps has the ability to "guesstimate" your location based on fancy cell-tower triangulation, not requiring a GPS device. I assume that this is the "My Location" feature referenced. I could be wrong.
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Titan is among those devices that does *not* report to cell tower, therefore, the "my location" will not work on Titan. don't quote me on this, but I think "My location" works on GSM phones.
boyz is right... it only works on GSM phones....
I remember when I was on ATT...there were all kinds of fun apps that would do stuff as you moved from one cell tower to the next....When I left my office area I would get a voice prompt "CALL YOUR WIFE AND TELL HER YOU"RE ON YOUR WAY" lot's of cool stuff like that....
But, alas...we're the CDMA redheaded step children....with SMOKIN FAST INTERNET ACCESS....keep your GSM you basta......
sorry....what were we talking about?
dcd1182 said:
titan does not support gps yet. but it should work with the bt gps receiver.
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confirmed working w/ my holux gpslim240 (on dcd 1.6.8, no less).
indeed, this new triangulation method thing DOES work on many cell phones, and even some CDMA ones. However, the Mogul is not one of the supported handsets at the moment.
Its totally possible tho... works the same way as Sprint Family Locator. Its just that this feature is still in beta, and they haven't gotten around to our device yet. I think I even read this on the official google support pages.
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confirmed working w/ my holux gpslim240 (on dcd 1.6.8, no less).
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Um... yeah, that worked from day 1. Even the original 2.08 Sprint rom with the old version of Google Maps supported an attached GPS... This shouldn't be news. I've been watching that little blue dot move inside a sattelite image for kicks for over a year now on my previous PPC phones as well.
Dishe said:
indeed, this new triangulation method thing DOES work on many cell phones, and even some CDMA ones. However, the Mogul is not one of the supported handsets at the moment.
Its totally possible tho... works the same way as Sprint Family Locator. Its just that this feature is still in beta, and they haven't gotten around to our device yet. I think I even read this on the official google support pages.
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Thanks for the clarification!
Um... yeah, that worked from day 1. Even the original 2.08 Sprint rom with the old version of Google Maps supported an attached GPS... This shouldn't be news. I've been watching that little blue dot move inside a sattelite image for kicks for over a year now on my previous PPC phones as well.
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There had been earlier reports of problems with BT items (specifically headsets) on dcd's roms/kitchens. Just thought I'd throw out there that my BT GPS receiver does work, for sure. It might not have ever been an issue on dcd's rom.
Dishe said:
indeed, this new triangulation method thing DOES work on many cell phones, and even some CDMA ones. However, the Mogul is not one of the supported handsets at the moment.
Its totally possible tho... works the same way as Sprint Family Locator. Its just that this feature is still in beta, and they haven't gotten around to our device yet. I think I even read this on the official google support pages.
Um... yeah, that worked from day 1. Even the original 2.08 Sprint rom with the old version of Google Maps supported an attached GPS... This shouldn't be news. I've been watching that little blue dot move inside a sattelite image for kicks for over a year now on my previous PPC phones as well.
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Your little blue dot moves around? In Google Maps, I seem to be able to find my position, but in order for Google Maps to refresh my location, I seem to have to turn off the GPS function (in G.M.) and turn it back on.
Foetus said:
Your little blue dot moves around? In Google Maps, I seem to be able to find my position, but in order for Google Maps to refresh my location, I seem to have to turn off the GPS function (in G.M.) and turn it back on.
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I had a hard time finding the resolution to that, and I just stumbled upon it one day. Here's how I have my Mogul setup with my GSAT:
Settings > GPS Settings:
Program port = COM1
Hardware port = COM0
Baud rate = 115200 (I don't think this matters)
Access = Manage automatically
In GMM, GPS Settings = Set by Windows
I get about 10ft of resolution with maybe 3sec delay.
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I had a hard time finding the resolution to that, and I just stumbled upon it one day. Here's how I have my Mogul setup with my GSAT:
Settings > GPS Settings:
Program port = COM1
Hardware port = COM0
Baud rate = 115200 (I don't think this matters)
Access = Manage automatically
In GMM, GPS Settings = Set by Windows
I get about 10ft of resolution with maybe 3sec delay.
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So you are not using an external GPS receiver? I've tried it on my Mogul with no luck. From what I'm reading Sprint does not give out the cell tower info that google maps requires to use the "My Location" feature
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So you are not using an external GPS receiver? I've tried it on my Mogul with no luck. From what I'm reading Sprint does not give out the cell tower info that google maps requires to use the "My Location" feature
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he says hes using a GSAT
http://www.mightygps.com/gsat.htm
Well hopefully us Sprint Mogul users will have GPS soon. I know there are other threads on this already, but I'm curious if Sprint and HTC will allow the GPS to be used by third pary apps such as Google Maps. Or will they limit us to using Sprint NAV
Well, I have a Fuze. And my Google Maps is so innaccurate with my current location. It has my current location being waaaaaay off by a couple streets/blocks. Even when I'm in a main highway--it shows me a few streets away from the highway. I'm not sure if it has something to do with my settings or if it's just AT&T's tower sucking so bad. Anybody know??
Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
Have you tried with google maps. For some reason i can get GPS signal in my house with google, but not with live. Also, under the GPS hardware, does yours say none, and baud 9600 or 4800?
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Never mind, I got it working, live just connected in my house. I have baud set to 4800, don't think it really matters. (anyone know what baud is anyway, and what the best settings are?). I wish there was a way to do this without live though.
baud is just another word for bits per second, its the connection speed of the hardware, since its internal it probably wouldnt make much of a differnce
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Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
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I have everything working but tom tom 6. It says no GPS device what gives? Do you have to have Live search running in the background for tom tom to work. I close Live Search after aquiring five satellites then launch tom tom 6 and all I get is no GPS device. hehe I know this is a beta and not a release rom. I have no Idea how people can aquire a satellite in their home. Shesh I have a huge solarium and still have to go outside.
what do u mean you get five satellites? Also to answer your question, what i do is after getting the GPS fixture in Live Search, I just click start and go to Tom Tom, without doing anything to live search. It seems to close automatically when I open Tom Tom.
Does anyone know if the GPS signal comes via the Sprint towers or is my phone communicating directly with the satellites in the sky? I ask because getting a signal inside my house seems unreal.
GPS signals come from satellites which is why the signal degrades when you move inside, eventually becoming nonexistent or unreal.
When someone says they are getting five satellites it means that is how many signals their device is receiving and using to triangulate its position. It requires at least four satellite signals to triangulate a current position and the more signals it can pick up on the more accurate the triangulation.
Ks.
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
For some reason I always have to setup the GPS device in TomTom. It works but as soon as I close TomTom it looses the GPS settings. Then I have to run through the setup again...
Anyone else having the same issue?
My GPS wasn't working at all until I turned on GPS location under the phone menu. Location Settings under services.
Once I turned that on my GPS started picking up satellites with in 5 seconds sitting in my house.
Does Anybody know how to get the GPS to work with iGo 2006? I am having no luck at all getting iGo to recognize the GPS device.
TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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Thanks for the update. =)
Cheers!
Livesearch.
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
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when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
pflatlyne said:
I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
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I think what they do is place devices selectively in those locations that send out false GPS signals to confuse the NAV devices. (probably from ground based stations or on moving convoys that are trying to NOT be detected)
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Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
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http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
the automatic download from live.com hasn't worked for me for a while either. it gets to around 15% and stalls...
Has anyone gotten Garmin Mobile XT to work with the internal GPS?
I am going to hold off on Flashing and give DCD some time to mature the release since I already have a G10 bluetooth reciever and have no issues but it would be nice to be able to leave that in my car and use internal when I'm not in my own car.
As far as i know...these are govt sats that are "open to the publuc." In a state of emergency or other situation, they can be blocked or certain areas can be blocked so only, say, certain govts/military could use them. This was the only way the us govt was willing and able to let the gen pop use the sats.
copied and pasted from the gps faq:
hey guys,
im a long time reader and this is me first post here on the forums.
im having an issue with the gps for the xv6800 on verizon. ive read through lots and lots of posts regarding verizon and their gps service, agps and the like. my problem is that i dont ever get a lock, and never see any satalites in the htc gps tool. it just sits there.
ive got
VZW XV6800
Rom: DCD 3.2.0
Radio: 3.42.30
i installed the radio using the sprint official rom, and then put dcd's over that. im using olipro 2.40 and after i put in dcd's rom, i ran the verizon carrier cab. also the arc mms thing but im sure that has nothing to do with anything other than mms.
my gps settings are
com4
4800 baud
and manage automatically.
location mode is set to on.
i dont have tomtom or another commercial program to test, so ive been trying google maps and windows live. google maps tells me my handset doesnt seem to be compatible with my location, and windows live just tells me gps signal lost.
ive let it sit for roughly an hour and some change, trying for a lock, although that is unpractical for everyday use, i just wanted it to lock.
i read on here that other verizon customers gets theirs to lock in minutes, and that would be great for me if i could get that. so im asking, is it just my handset? or have i not done a crucial step in the flashing, programming?
didnt call verizon when i switched phones to reactivate data or whatever, i didnt know what i was supposed to ask them to do, so i just switched phones thru vzw.com and it makes calls and uses the ## codes perfectly. ive dont the *228 ect .
am i just sol? i really would love to have gps back, my previous phone broke, and i used vznav and that was great.
thanks in advance.
try this, and see if it makes a difference:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanGpsFix
thank you for the reply but i forgot to mention that i have already applied the gps fix fromt the tutorial. i read somwhere that is persists through flashes, so i have not tried to reapply it after upgrading to the latest dcd.
if it truly does not then i will try to reapply that again when i get off of work
gmaps always says not compatible with my location (it is a feature some phones support that doesn't use gps) - don't use my location, check 'use gps'.... once the gps has a lock my location will send you to that location though....
Hey guys,
Can you tell me if there is an "issue" with the GPS on the Alltel Touch Pro phones? These are fairly new phones and have only been out for a couple weeks so there may not be a lot of info available but it sure seems to me there are some issues here.
I'm on my 3rd phone. First phone was probably OK but since it was new and nobody in the area was familiar with it, everyone thought the speakerphone speaker was defective... turns out it just sucks but that's in a different thread. On the 2nd phone we noticed at the Alltel store the signal kept dropping out completely and then coming back. Also I dropped a call, looked at the phone and it showed no bars in a very good signal reception area. That coupled with I couldn't get the GPS to reliably work, Alltel swapped out the phone again for me thinking the GPS was defective. Well, third one might be worse!!!???
I have verified I have the 911 location settings turned ON.
I have run QuickGPS and downloaded the data.
On the 2nd phone after several days of trying it off and on and having zero success I decided to get the $9.99 monthly Alltel app. It did indicate a weak signal but eventually picked up my location. Hmm??? I then went into Google Maps and it too was seeing around 10 satellites. Why could I not get it to see any satellites for days then as soon as I paid for the monthly Alltel app it "kinda" worked??? I say "kinda" because after that being able to lock onto satellites even in an open field was very iffy. So, I took the Alltel GPS app off the phone and did a hard reset because I still couldn't consistently get any satellites. After the hard reset I tried again with Google Maps and nothing. I then downloaded GPS Test and it immediately found several satellites??? I then started up Google Maps and then it immediately started working too?!? During all this I installed TomTom Navigator 5 (own that so thought I'd try it) and it too was "iffy" if it would find any satellites but it did connect so long as I had the GPS Test program running in the background. I could live with that but even with the GPS Test program running in the background on the 2nd phone it wasn't at all consistent even outside in an open field. What I find odd though is that the GPS seems to "stick" and the GPS Test program was "unsticking" the locked up GPS... but not reliably.
Now for the 3rd phone. Get the 3rd phone this morning and immediately download Google Maps, turn on location settings, and do the Quick GPS. Do a soft reset and try out Google Maps in a parking lot. NOTHING again after over 10 minutes. CRAP! Downloaded GPS Test and now on this phone I'm only getting "GPS starting up" with one yellow bar. I can't even get GPS Test to work now but it finds the GPS and acts like it is trying to lock on to satellites. On both phones it was defaulting to 9600 baud. Seemed to not make a difference if I select 9600 or 4800... when it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't.
This is very frustrating. It is not like the programs don't work because I've got them all to work but only sporadically. Is Alltel doing "something" to this phone and the GPS like "half assed" locking it out??? I don't know what else it could be. Could I have got two bad phones in a row? I've read were other Alltel users just download Google Maps and, bingo, works immediately for them.
Any ideas as to what I might be able to try would be greatly appreciated. I love some of the features on the phone but some of the basic items that should work (speakerphone, GPS) on an expensive phone like this don't work worth a darn
Thanks!!!
Drop the Alltel Nav plan...you don't need it. All it did was set your GPS settings to work, which you can do in the settings. Set GPS Hardware Port GPS and GPS Program Port both to none. Set Baud at 4800 and allow automatic managment. Soft Reset just in case and you should be good to go!
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mspace00 said:
Drop the Alltel Nav plan...you don't need it. All it did was set your GPS settings to work, which you can do in the settings. Set GPS Hardware Port GPS and GPS Program Port both to none. Set Baud at 4800 and allow automatic managment. Soft Reset just in case and you should be good to go!
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I only had the Alltel Nav plan for a couple of days... only got it for troubleshooting.
I had tried your settings before and both Google Maps and GPS Test could not even find the GPS. I just tried again and same results... GPS just keeps scanning for the GPS and can never find it. You have an Alltel phone?
The setting that you recommend me changing away from the default setting is the GPS Program Port... if that is set to NONE, the programs can't even find the GPS. When I change it back to COM4, the GPS is found but GPS Test sits at "GPS Starting Up" with either no satellites found or just one most of the time. I did the other day get it to work even on this new phone but then yesterday tried again for 20 minutes sitting still outside and the best I got GPS Test to show was 4 satellites... not even enough to get past the "starting up" message.
It seems like it is defective again but, man, TWO phones in a row with a bad GPS?????
So last night after replying to this thread, I was messing around with the new google maps. This morning...NOTHING works with my GPS. Perhaps the download of alltel nav (although canceled) activated the GPS on my phone for a specified time and now the sub ended. I was sold on this phone by Alltel reps because the GPS was not locked to an app.
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mspace00 said:
So last night after replying to this thread, I was messing around with the new google maps. This morning...NOTHING works with my GPS. Perhaps the download of alltel nav (although canceled) activated the GPS on my phone for a specified time and now the sub ended. I was sold on this phone by Alltel reps because the GPS was not locked to an app.
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Well, after screwing around yesterday like I did, I decided to just let it set in my garage (with many sky lights) this morning for a few hours with the GPS Test program running and looking for satellites. NOTHING. Did a soft reset, went outside, started up the GPS Test program and within 5 seconds was locked on to 10 satellites!?!?! I could swear I've done soft resets before and it did no good. Will try a soft reset again if it quits working on me. Also, I'm inside the house now in a room with ZERO windows and it is still seeing 7 satellites. I suspect there is an issue with GPS on this phone but because it seems very "flaky" I'd think a software update may be able to fix it... hope so anyway!
You might want to try a soft reset and see if that works for ya?
I also talked to a smart phone expert guy and he said it doesn't hurt to do the Quick GPS DAILY. He has found that on many phones running a program like this daily helps the phone to connect much quicker. FWIW, I didn't run it today and after the reset it connected in seconds. LOL
Ok, so I tried running Quick GPS and I get an error "Connection Failed". Perhaps this is somehow related to the GPS issue? I will keep trying throughout the day.
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Ok, so I tried running Quick GPS and I get an error "Connection Failed". Perhaps this is somehow related to the GPS issue? I will keep trying throughout the day.
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I only ever got that when my 911 location setting was turned OFF when I first got the phone. Turned that on and it worked no problem. Also, of course, you have to be able to get your data connection established. With a data connection and your location settings ON, I don't know why you'd have a problem.
GPS no worky right for me......
Finally someone with a thread for this issue! I too am having the exact same problem. The GPS is very "flaky" at best.... I have had it work sporadically at best in the car and will drop it for no reason and the pick it right back up and then go out for good. I dont really understand what to do, it is all quite a mystery. I have manipulated the settings back and forth trying diffent things to no avail. I hope there is an update soon that straightens this out. It annoys me becasue my old titan got signal in about 10 seconds, 10 satellites, indoors, in any part of my house.... just a bit frustrating. Hopefully we get a fix soon.
Thanks for any advice on this!
Gary
bfranker said:
I only ever got that when my 911 location setting was turned OFF when I first got the phone. Turned that on and it worked no problem. Also, of course, you have to be able to get your data connection established. With a data connection and your location settings ON, I don't know why you'd have a problem.
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
This was driving me nuts! Now not only does quickGPS work, so does google maps I remember now changing that setting last night. Who knew?
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After messing with this a bit more, I think there is definitely an issue with the Alltel version of this phone and the GPS. It seems that if I can't get it to work, it WILL work after I do a soft reset. What triggers the "need" to do a soft reset I have not yet figured out. But, I do know that I saw a friend who just got a Sprint HTC Touch Pro and had no idea about the GPS. I downloaded Google Maps on their phone and in less than 5 seconds the GPS was working like a charm.
Looks like the Alltel GPS works but is very sporadic at best and, for whatever reason, requires a soft reset damn near each time you want to use it. Hoping for a real "fix" for this soon!
and how do i change the 911 location settings
The 911 settings are located in the settings for the phone. START->SETTINGS->PHONE then click the Services tab and it is under the Location Setting.
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Ok here is something that may be contributing to my problem. So i have double and triple checked the my location check and looked at the option which has always read "on". the strange thin is that the icon on the phone dialer screen shows my location feature is set to off. I have gone back to check the location setting and verified it was on. So i selected off then back on and then the icon reflected it was "on". I have tried soft resets after doing this and it goes right back to the way it was before I force it on. I am now hinking this is what is contributing to the flaky response of the gps. just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.....
gary
garyr2548 said:
Ok here is something that may be contributing to my problem. So i have double and triple checked the my location check and looked at the option which has always read "on". the strange thin is that the icon on the phone dialer screen shows my location feature is set to off. I have gone back to check the location setting and verified it was on. So i selected off then back on and then the icon reflected it was "on". I have tried soft resets after doing this and it goes right back to the way it was before I force it on. I am now hinking this is what is contributing to the flaky response of the gps. just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.....
gary
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Which icon are you talking about? I looked through the online pdf manual and could find no icon that indicated this setting was on or off
Also, while a soft reset sometimes works for this, it doesn't all the time. What has saved me time in this, though, is that I've learned that if it doesn't connect in under a minute, it ain't going to. Mine either works pretty much right away or doesn't work at all. It does seem to help to start up GPS Test first but that doesn't always work either.
After reading a bit more about this on other forums, it doesn't look to be related specifically to the Alltel version like I originally assumed. A number of people with other carriers are also experiencing "flaky" operation of the HTC Touch Pro GPS. The very sad part about this is that, apparently, HTC refuses to acknowledge a problem exists.
Would be nice to know if this is a software/driver issue or hardware issue. If a hardware issue then I'll be stuck using an external receiver most likely. Software, I can hold out hope that somebody will get it figured out!
the icon i am referring to is on you phone dialer. it is a circle that resembles a set of crosshairs. when the location feature is on, you will see the crosshairs. when the setting is off the crosshairs have a diagonal line through them. i am using my phone to send this so i cant attach any pictures right now. the icon is right next to the back arrow at the top of the dialer where the number you dial is shown.
update... spent 30 minutes with alltel smartphone support and they had no solution other than saying they would send this to the group that reports issues to htc to work on a solution. they did offer me to return it but i like this phone too much. i am
sure we will figure it out soon enough.
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the icon i am referring to is on you phone dialer. it is a circle that resembles a set of crosshairs. when the location feature is on, you will see the crosshairs. when the setting is off the crosshairs have a diagonal line through them. i am using my phone to send this so i cant attach any pictures right now. the icon is right next to the back arrow at the top of the dialer where the number you dial is shown.
update... spent 30 minutes with alltel smartphone support and they had no solution other than saying they would send this to the group that reports issues to htc to work on a solution. they did offer me to return it but i like this phone too much. i am
sure we will figure it out soon enough.
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Ahh... I see that now and amazingly enough, mine has a line through it. I'll check that next time I can get the GPS to work and see if it changes.
Like you, I really like the phone but it greatly aggravates me that something so expensive doesn't work, as designed, out of the box.
I have had 3 alltel TP phones and all of them once 911 and location was set to on and quick gps was run once then they always got instant locks of 10 satellites. On my mogul the best i would ever get would be 4-6 satellites. Google & Live search use the intermediate driver with default settings with no lag and Iguidance (which is the best voiceprompt gps software) works with no lag when using Franson GPS gate as a virtual com port for the GPS driver.
bruceo said:
I have had 3 alltel TP phones and all of them once 911 and location was set to on and quick gps was run once then they always got instant locks of 10 satellites. On my mogul the best i would ever get would be 4-6 satellites. Google & Live search use the intermediate driver with default settings with no lag and Iguidance (which is the best voiceprompt gps software) works with no lag when using Franson GPS gate as a virtual com port for the GPS driver.
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If you go to your phone dialer, is there a "line" through the crosshair/circle icon?
I haven't been able to get a lock for couple days now. Bummer. I'm going to call Alltel tech support again and see what they say.
Ok, after not even beeing able to get more than a couple satellites being shown in GPS Test which means nothing more than a GPS Starting message, I decided to call tech support to see if they had documented any other issues with the phone since I last contacted them. I was told there are NO known issues with the Touch Pro (not even the problem with the speakerphone or the previously reported GPS issues).
After talking with tech support and they guy telling me that they get a number of calls for "other" GPS software programs but not too many for the Alltel Navagation program that they offer, he told me he can't help me with the other programs and I should contact their vendors. I tried to explain to him that one was a simple GPS Test program and the other was Google Maps but he kept saying that they don't really have problems with "their" GPS subscription program.
Being basically fed up and figuring it was worth the $10 to continue to troubleshoot this problem, I downloaded the Alltel Navagation program again. And guess what... IT WORKED. Guess what else... when I had the Alltel Navagation program working, GPS Test and Google Maps work fine too and I'm even inside a large building right now!!!
Does anybody have any "inside" on what is going on here? I know a number of Alltel people say the GPS on their Touch Pro works just fine using something like Google Maps. On mine, it "sometimes" works. I find it VERY odd that on my last Touch Pro phone I NEVER got even a single satellite to show until I downloaded the Alltel pay program. Now, with this phone, after struggling with it a bit I can "sometimes" get it to work but haven't been able to for a couple days, even after numerous soft resets but now, immediately after activating and running the Alltel program, my GPS starting working just peachy and even inside a large building!?!? I've got a full 5 bars in the Alltel GPS program inside. WHAT GIVES???
I'm going to pay for this Alltel program for a few days and see if I can consistently get a lock. If so, I'd sure like to know why the phone's GPS magically gets "better" so long as you pay for their service
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If you go to your phone dialer, is there a "line" through the crosshair/circle icon?
I haven't been able to get a lock for couple days now. Bummer. I'm going to call Alltel tech support again and see what they say.
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I am using the regular windows dialer and yes there is a line through the circle/crosshair.
I just went outside and launched Gpsgate/Iguidance and had 10 sattelites instantly, it has been at least a week since I have drove and used the GPS, but I use it all the time with no problems or lag. Inside I almost instantly get 6-7 sats. using Google maps or livesearch without GPS gate, only the MS intermediate driver I get instant locks as well. I ran quick GPS once about a month ago on this unit.
I just bought a touch pro from Bell, and I am VERY UNHAPPY with the lies their sales people have told me.
I was told "Get the unlimited data plan". That was to give me access to everything on thier phone. I did.
But unless I pay extra for the lifve tv feed, I cannot use that. Worse, the GPS is lockedc, so unless I use their NAV system, at 10.00 /month, I cannot use the GPS either.
Is there a way to unlock the GPS, so I can use TomTom, AmazeGPS, google, etc.
Thanks
I just purchased a HTC Touch Pro and the GPS works fine with Google Maps. I am not paying Bell $10 a month for turn by turn GPS software... that is criminal...
When I used goggle, my phone could not get a gps lock, how did you do that?
I installed Google Maps then from the 'menu' I click 'use gps' and it works... I did not need to install anything else to get this to work, gps worked right out of the box from bell... They also have the "GPSNAV" software that is a pay as you go or $10 a month...
That is interesting that you can get a GPS signal, I cannot.
Sorry I could not be of more help... maybe talk to Bell? I understood when I purchased my phoner that the GPS would still function, just that the turn by turn Nav software was extra $$... and that is what I got... I did not have to configure anything to get the gps to work on Google Maps
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ya I bought a touch pro from Bell, Google Maps work but I can't seem to get any sort of communication without Google Maps.. I don't think GoogMaps even use your GPS data, I think it gives you a location based on the cell towers..
I want to unlock my TP GPS capability..
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I just bought a touch pro from Bell, and I am VERY UNHAPPY with the lies their sales people have told me.
I was told "Get the unlimited data plan". That was to give me access to everything on thier phone. I did.
But unless I pay extra for the lifve tv feed, I cannot use that. Worse, the GPS is lockedc, so unless I use their NAV system, at 10.00 /month, I cannot use the GPS either.
Is there a way to unlock the GPS, so I can use TomTom, AmazeGPS, google, etc.
Thanks
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rk, i think your doing something wrong..
let me explain.
i am also a bell customer, and bought one of the first TP they had.
that being said...
yes they did tell me telenav worked with the phone.
only to find out it wasnt even ready for touch pro via bell yet.
so i grabbed garmin XT, wont say how or where... and loaded it.
never had a problem using it. and this was before telenav even worked for the touch pro.
also running is gps spot
ellicasoft gps utilities,
google maps,
well hell there hasnt been anything gps i couldnt use.
and that was before i flashed my rom.
there is a gps unlocker on modaco.. google it.
but honestly gps was never locked for me.
now this could also be because i got it BEFORE they locked it.
but again im certain the modaco fix will work.
also, if google maps works, then your gps isnt locked to telenav.
try some other programs, simple gps progs just to see if they work.
also you may simply have a faulty device.
heres something interesting, im in the basement of my house...
i have a small 12 x 12 window.. so thats not going to work for line of site.
i can fire up garmin xt and it will grab signal, from my basement.
i also dont know if gps quick fix tool helps with that, but i have it set to auto download
try some of those tricks, also try and see if you can swap out your device.
again, i have used gps tuner, run gps, garmin, tom tom, ellicasoft, hell even trackr.eu works.
other gps apps
I tried using mapopolis, I was using it on my older wm5 device so I tried it with my bell TP only to find I couldn't get it to fix at all. google maps and amaze gps worked, they however use data.. I'm lookin for something I can use thats preloaded or get the old mapopolis working somehow
thanks
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