I've been around the TP forum since almost day one and I am also watching closely the Diamond one. My question (and I put it in the ROM development area for a reason) is as follows:
Why is it so difficult to change themes in TF3D manila?
It is difficult and with issues most of the time and many flaws occure when using any of the programs available by pretty capable guys around here (eg. diamond config, manila customiser, cabs etc.)
Please don't get me wrong, these programs DO WORK, but WITH FLAWS. I tried many themes and ways and I find problems most of the time. One problem for example would be speed in people tab, in NATF 1.1 ROM, att people tab is as fast as hell, but try to change the theme and you will get the shock of your life in the time it takes to open that tab. The same (even worse) would be said for RomeOs 1.40.
Why can't we just do: start>settings>today>themes and choose the theme (which should be there by the way but never is) >items>tf3d only
I know that the themes tab is for the whole interface of windows, but why is there no link between themes and tf3d, a real and correlative link i.e. one would change the other?
Sorry for the long story but would any one be interested to discuss that??
- i dont quiet understand what the issue you seem to comming across using the TF3D Customizer, if u could be a bit more specific i could possibly help..
BUT from the jump i did notice that..it was made known not to use on the 1.93 rom, is that an issue here?
i flashed NATF's rom and all seems to be working just fine. Themes take about 1-2 mins to fully load..then i get the soft reset prompt and BAM..new theme loaded
- honestly..i think using manilla on these devices which are TF3D .. makes no sense, i could be 100% wrong..but it seems like a step backwards.
i was involved with the release of TF2D and i can honestly say TF3D is better..and no not the throttle launcher version either..no knock there..just doesnt compete with the real thing.
The thing is, whenever you temper with the original (ROM TF3D) in any way, and that I noticed in all my instances and in all the roms I used, you always get a different, primary lousier responce in the performance.
about 1.93, no that was not the issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong in these:
1- tf3d is a user interface created by htc to be used on wm6.1 touch flow devices
2- this created 2 kinds of themes:
a- windows theme for the original interface
b- tf3d themes only
3- link between the 2 does not exist, or is to be made manually i.e. change wm theme & tf3d theme
4- when you change tf3d theme you almost always fall into flaws (and not to mention trying to add tabs which is another story altogether), interface flaws and performance flaws
5- no theme exists that combine both worlds in one and that you can use from the normal windows themes tab in settings (except the original shipped one in the rom of course)
1. correct.. pretty obvious there
2a. this 2nd theme u speak of.. the .tsk file, is a simple layout..like a "background so to speak, to add a bit of flare to plain. if u opted out in using TF and and just went with the today screen add-on's.
2b. well if its TF3D then i would presume u would make themes that are TF3D compat. ? call me crazy lol
3. if you want to be technical, there is a link..when u access ur start menu..while in TF3D..ur accessing theme 1 and 2. hence a link being created.
4. on an ORIGINAL STOCK ROM..of course your going to run into issues. Its made by service providers to do just that provide service, not get ur optimal performance..hence why apps such as Kaiser Tweaks, and Advance Config were created..to get that optimal performance.
on another persons created rom..the issues u generally run into will be short lived, considering they too..are tryin to edit out the bugs that u would normally run into.
once again..i really dont know where or how ur running into that TF3D theme issue..i just cycled thru 5 diffrent themes, with no issues to report.
5. u lost me
just a fast Q; Where to place the .theme files?
steps plz for the noobie.
- And do i have to use Diamond TF3D Config, or just from the setting?
Thnx!
JstarLuvsTina said:
1. correct.. pretty obvious there
2a. this 2nd theme u speak of.. the .tsk file, is a simple layout..like a "background so to speak, to add a bit of flare to plain. if u opted out in using TF and and just went with the today screen add-on's.
2b. well if its TF3D then i would presume u would make themes that are TF3D compat. ? call me crazy lol
3. if you want to be technical, there is a link..when u access ur start menu..while in TF3D..ur accessing theme 1 and 2. hence a link being created.
4. on an ORIGINAL STOCK ROM..of course your going to run into issues. Its made by service providers to do just that provide service, not get ur optimal performance..hence why apps such as Kaiser Tweaks, and Advance Config were created..to get that optimal performance.
on another persons created rom..the issues u generally run into will be short lived, considering they too..are tryin to edit out the bugs that u would normally run into.
once again..i really dont know where or how ur running into that TF3D theme issue..i just cycled thru 5 diffrent themes, with no issues to report.
5. u lost me
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@JStar:
Have you found any flip clocks that work?
One other issue I'm waiting to see figured out is the background image changing on all TF3D tabs, not just the home tab. There has been some progress on the Diamond forum, but I understand there are still issues there..
k9tim said:
@JStar:
Have you found any flip clocks that work?
One other issue I'm waiting to see figured out is the background image changing on all TF3D tabs, not just the home tab. There has been some progress on the Diamond forum, but I understand there are still issues there..
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This is already working with no problems......go over to PPCGeeks and there are threads on it and how to....I would link you but I cannot remember the exact thread....
Thanks for the heads up, I'll bounce over there and check it out!
really dont have to go so far.. theres a few themes here that have flip clocks ive found on here already..
check out these links..
1. The Diamond Theme And Etc Forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=441
2. TF3D Clocks ( in that forum ) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420887
good luck!
Yeah been thru those posts quite a bit. Tried a cpl themes that looked great but the flip clocks never told the time. They just sat on "000".
The slider icons and stuff worked great though
any news yet..for u
i was just browsing thru and theres been a few reports in those threads about working flip clocks.
I still believe that this tf3d themes issue is not purely resolved by the developers. I'm trying to have a smooth theme transition (i.e. change from theme to another) but am failing most of the time. Each and every (and I mean it) theme has at least one flaw that render the theme lame, sometime in the interface and some time in the performance. Am I the only alien around here???? Do I really miss something????
karimartine said:
I still believe that this tf3d themes issue is not purely resolved by the developers. I'm trying to have a smooth theme transition (i.e. change from theme to another) but am failing most of the time. Each and every (and I mean it) theme has at least one flaw that render the theme lame, sometime in the interface and some time in the performance. Am I the only alien around here???? Do I really miss something????
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i think u may be missing a step. ill try to help u get things right!!
what rom are u running?
what are u using to switch themes?
what are u using for your tweaks on your device?
JstarLuvsTina said:
i think u may be missing a step. ill try to help u get things right!!
what rom are u running?
what are u using to switch themes?
what are u using for your tweaks on your device?
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rom... u name it cause i tried them all (literally)
using manilla editor & tf3d diamond config
for that advanced config 3.3
ok so start from skratch..reflash the original rom, then go from there.
-use the hardspl provided in this forum.
-then flash NATF's rom ( i use that one with no issues to report..may be flashing again tonight tho, if that TIR ROM is ready. )
after your flash of the ROM HARD RESET, i know ur probably thinkin i know all this..but alot of the times ppl skip that step and it helps..trust it does!
-install NET CF 3.5
-install Diamond Tweak
-install Diamond TF3D Config
u dont need advanced config if ur using Diamond Tweak.
then we'll get a theme and go from there.
Related
Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
How about posting some screens for various applications?
right away sir
Thanks for posting the screens.
I guess it's a personal thing, but I prefer to view the device in 128dpi, with wktask, with a 3D glassy top and bottom bar, with both date and time on the taskbar of every screen, just to list some of the main things I would tailor.
Hey, whatever appeal to you, enjoy your device
U can always customize the view and 128dpi can be installed
i'm confused with your screenshots.
are simply qvga, non?
nittin_sp said:
Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
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maybe means vga screen res but qvga is being displayed but that is a given.?
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
Pawel062 said:
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
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I love changing the color of my theme every now and then. One of the quickest ways of to use tweaks2k2. It gives you the 3d glassy look. Depending on my mood, I like to switch between blue, green, black, etc. Be very careful though when you use tweak2k2. Don't let it trigger any soft reset(always use stylus into the hole method) or else you may be stuck on primary splash and you'll be forced to hard reset.
thanx for the info and warning. i do too. currently running 192dpi, snapvue, and snavue tsk on my rom. will probably go back to setup u see in dual screenies when i get realvga cooked back into rom im currently running.
Does this rom contain the latest Opera? That's the only reason I see to upgrade to this. Font size looks like it does when you change the screen settings to a smaller font on the 'screen' menu. I assume you can change the pink theme with the windows standard.
some clarrification
the opera version is build 8.65(2627)
the rom is overall very fast
the text resolution is vga like and we can get rid of the cuteiii pink colour.
the ap3 dual rom is superior in many aspects but this rom is good for all those who want a clean rom without any addons.
hey powell can u please post a lite addition of your touch dual rom it would be great
perhaps I also forgot to mention that this rom solves the micro drive issue in ameo.
Powell can u please give add ons seperately.
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
eaglesteve said:
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
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Ok, ive begun testing this ROM Eaglesteve and here are my observations thus far:
Opera is identical to the others, although a nice resolution mod has been done with the url bar, making it smaller and neater than the versions seen in other ROMS. there is no immediate reference to 'opera' within the application in that it is referred to as 'web n walk' in the start menu, and the homepage is www.t-mobilefavourites.co.uk. for those wishing to use t-mobile's tv service this functionality is now restored for wm6.
on the whole i feel that the download and render time with this version of Opera is the slowest i've seen. there is no flash support and this is NOT the latest Opera build (or anywhere near). this indicates that HTC have a limited deal with Opera which does not include the more recent version - no free upgrade then.
I found both browsers to be unusually slow, even after various tweaks.
T-mobile have removed Windows Live from this ROM.
They have included (the completely pointless) F-Secure Antivirus, which annoyingly pops up an installation window upon every soft reset.
The 'H'SDPA icon is not enables by default for some unknown reason. this is surely a step backwards from the old T-Mobile ROM.
t-mobile sounds are preset by default. they are horrendous.
some of the 'band' settings have been removed in line with what's available in western europe.
dialpad is a modified pink|grey, as is the comms screen.
there is a t-mobile home plugin similar to htc's, but with 'web n walk' last dialled, file explorer and SIM manager.
this ROM seems more sluggish than touch dual overall, and is missing a great deal of decent features that id gotten used to with Touch.
will try a hard reset with no installed t-mobile CABs and report back
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
eaglesteve said:
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
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sorry eaglesteve i dont have the screenshot utility that comes with touch, otherwise id send you a screenshot.
update though: this ROM is an absolute dog. it's slooooow, web pages dont load up very fast and for the first time in ages im getting the "this page cannot be found" dialogue in p.i.e. on random occasions. ive also had opera randomly shut down on me twice.
can someone else try this ROM and tell me im not mistaken? the only apps ive installed are wktask, fingertouch and htc home
so far i can't believe t-mobile have unleashed a pile of crap like this on the public. its bad enough that they make their handsets look so rubbish.
one last set of points to t-mobile:
we DONT need antivirus. really.
we DONT need to be asked if we're sure we want to go online/sure we want to close the browser.
we dont like pink today screens and phones with pink bits on them
we DO want you to employ Pawel and the team to develop decent ROMs in future.
Is this ROM the standard WM6 ROM provided by T Mobile to work on the Ameo? The quality is very different from those provided by Dopod.
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
leoni1980 said:
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
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lol nice.
to the poster asking about vanilla: i could remove everything except pk programs 3.0(task manager+regedit and screenshot app) and leave in tsk, welcomhead, and all the reg edits i have done BUT the available space on the device with or without dual will remain the same.
its not worth it.
use file explorer and go into windows/start menu/programs and removed whatever u dont use. it will clean up the program's folder and u can go ahead and do same with system folder.
it will look clean that way and if u decide u want to use a app that i cooked in you just add shorcut back in. also for battery/qwerty menu just go ahead and remove the shortcuts for those from windows/startup and those are gone.
switch to a different tsk like says windows mobile default and u look vanilla. for say the control panel apps just ignore or remove from windows folder.
Ur rom looks vanilla and it will have same space as a vanilla rom. also u can go ahead after the black tsk is displayed and soft reset device to not install extended rom stuff and reduce apps installed.
@leoni
T Mobile has put its customisations, so if u check opera, the proxy is enabled.
If u remove the proxy all work well.
Results are better, when one flashes only OS.nb converted to NBH and use, so u do not have any T Mobile Crap installed
******NOTE: Round 4 Reloaded is out! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444342 Check there for the most current vesion!
Hello, I just finished working on my Round 4 ROM. Many people have looked at and downloaded some of my earlier rounds in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436997
This is a continuation of that project on a new thread.
Here is the ROM that I have been working on for the past week. Its a one size fits all ROM. I started doing this at the request of Grimstar8402. He asked if someone could create a ROM with M2D cooked in. I cooked him a ROM and it took off on that thread. I created a couple more rounds with user feed back incorporated and had mixed results for some users and while great results with other users. We soon realized a single ROM could not fit everyones needs because each user wanted different features or other features removed.
Obviously I couldn't accommodate all the request with just one ROM... Or Could I?
Introducing my Titan M2D Round 4 ROM. A ROM designed by many people and for many people!
Some of the highlights of the ROM....
+Based on DCD Kitchen 3.2.6 CE OS 5.2.20275 (Build 20275.1.3.3 dcd)
+Manila 2D - White Diamond Theme with 7 additional themes cooked in!
++Manila styled application CABs are INCLUDED but NOT INSTALLED. Apps include Opera 9.5.2392, HTC Album, HTC Audio Manager, You Tube with fix, Large Title Bar, X-Button (HTC Task Manager), and more (Opal title bar and Vista Hide Battery Gage) in the My Documents folder. All tested and working. You choose want you want to install or not install.
+Free RAM at Boot with stock configuration: 22.25 Megs. M2D enabled, nothing loaded, Oxious Hibernate ran before testing
+Free RAM at boot with minimal configuration: 25.6 Megs. M2D disabled, nothing loaded, Oxious Hibernate ran before testing
+Pre-loaded with all carrier cabs for DCD 3.2.6
+nueUSB,
+nuFonts
+nueLED Control
+Adobe Reader 2.5 (DCD)
+Camera 4.05.xx The older one with flash (DCD)
+HTC 10 Button Comm Manager (DCD)
+HTC Vouge Phone Canvas (DCD)
+HTC Start Animation(DCD)
+Psshut Modified Black theme by me
+Calibri System Font
+iContact 1.02
-Google Maps and Live Search not included. They change too often to cook into a ROM. Most users prefer to stay up to date with those two programs on there own.
*The carrier cabs were graciously provided by DCD as well as the kitchen. Many Thanks to DCD for the kitchen usage and the usage of the carrier cabs!
* On first boot open File Explorer and navigate to \My Documents\ROM Pack\Carriers\ and select your carrier CAB. YOU MUST DO THIS FOR YOUR PHONE TO HAVE A DATA CONNECTION! *
*Your phone is now up and ready to go as a bare bones M2D ROM with some special features in control panel such as nueLed and nueFonts and my custom Silver Windows theme and matching PsShutdown. From here you can install your choice of the pre-loaded apps.
** As with all custom ROM's I am not liable for anything you do or try to do or anything that happened because of your use or attempted used of my ROM** You agree to this when you download it! Sorry but a disclaimer is standard on most all custom ROMs.
Make sure you read the stickies at the top of the forum if its your first time flashing a custom ROM. Another good place to read is the GA Medic post over at PPCGeeks.com about flashing custom ROMS. Its a step by step walk through. If you have flashed a custom ROM before this one is no different ;c)
** Always remember this should be considered beta quality because a lot of these apps were simply not designed for our phones. The developers below did awesome jobs porting them over and tweaking them to work. Every once in a while something quirky could happen when running memory hungry apps like Opera and M2D at the same time. For example M2D may shutdown temporarily until you quit out of Opera. This is due to high memory requirements of M2D and the levels of low memory on our devices (64 Megs on our device vs 128 Megs and higher on the native devices). There is not a whole lot that can be done about these very minor issues and most users do not mind or even notice or have experienced them at all based on feed back that I received in the thread that started this series of the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436997.
*With all things said this is a pretty stable ROM with or with out the add on pack I created. I think your going to like.
Please make sure you have your phone preloaded with the following before attempting to flash:
NueSPL2.47 or OliPro 2.40
GPS Radio 3.3x.xx or higher
I use nueSPL2.47 and Radio 3.42.50 on a Verizon XV6800
And finally thanks to all the following people who wrote the following great programs!
DCD 3.2.6 Kitchen and carrier cabs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420075
Manilla 2D Customizer (M2DC)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
Manilla 2D - Skins
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974
Manilla 2D Apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173
Manilla 2D OEM
http://ppckitchen.org/
YouTube Fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2657501&postcount=164
Opal Title Bar
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2761662&postcount=3885
VistaHide Battery Gauged (CAB'ed by me)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281891
Various Tweaks and Utilities - No2Chem
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/
Great Ideas and lots of knowledge
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=384
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/
The people that gave me the ideas behind the ROM and helped drive its development through feedback in the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=436997
And Finally the Link to the ROM!
Please Read Posts 1 through 4 before downloading! Lots of great info and may save you some time!!!!
-=+ http://www.scottcrosler.com/ +=-
If you choose to link from other sites then you may do so. I will have a return link here to this post. Please do not deep link directly to the ROM's.
Older ROM's will be organized and posted soon under new locations.
Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
Remember: Always hard reset after a flash! If anything else its good luck!
**Screen Shots - More will be posted at my download link as well.
Row 1
Preloaded Apps, Preloaded carriers, Preloaded M2D Themes
Row 2
Three of the 7 pre-loaded M2D Themes from ROM pack. You can find tons more where these all came from at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974
All made simple buy the Manila 2D Customizer found here! Consider donating to him as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392&highlight=manilla
Notes
** Note: You must install the M2D Customizer from the Apps folder then add the themes using the Customizers "add" feature. The themes are located at \My Documents\ROM Pack\M2D Themes\. Some themes don't like to switch back and forth very well. Take it all in stride and for what it is.
** Note: All pre-loaded cabs can be deleted from the My Documents folder. Just delete the ROM Pack folder or anything inside you don't want. Its that simple. If you must know... A hard reset WILL bring the files and folders back that you be deleted from the ROM Pack folder (but of course you know all your other data is gone!)
Sorry this is such a long post. Wanted to make it as informative as possible and give the proper credit to the people who made all this possible.
Have fun and enjoy and of course if you read this far down and like this ROM and are in a position to donate then please feel free to do so ;c)
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donateCC_LG.gif:NonHosted
Ok, I finally got around to posting updates to post 2, 3 and 4.
Post #2 will be for Tips, Tricks, and How To's.
Post #3 will be for Bugs and fixes (none as of yet)! Before you post saying something is a bug please research it. I tested and cant find any REAL bugs with this ROM (Woot goes out to DCD) other than user preference not being what they like.
Post #4 will be for two things:
1. Upcoming features that I will integrate
2. Download stats from my website.
Remember If you like my work say thank you in to forum and if you are in a position to, say thank you via Pay Pal Donations :c) Im not in this for the money but will contribute back to everyone's work I used and keep my website up and running. Im not getting rich off this trust me! ;P
Tips, Tricks, and How To's
Tips, Tricks, and How To (Updated 7 Nov 2008 at 7:30 PM)
0. Pay attention to this from the first post!!!! It will answer alot of your questions --> +Manila styled application CABs are INCLUDED but NOT INSTALLED. Apps include Opera 9.5.2392, HTC Album, HTC Audio Manager, You Tube with fix, Large Title Bar, X-Button (HTC Task Manager), and more (Opal title bar and Vista Hide Battery Gage) in the My Documents folder. All tested and working. You choose want you want to install or not install.
1. Install the Manila 2D customizer before you try to customize M2D first! The files is in the Rom Pack folder.
2. Pictures Tab How To make it work properly: Install Album application from ROM pack. Use Customizer to turn on the Pictures Tab. Now open the pictures tab and press the ALBUM softkey. Now click the ALL menu button. Now go to the Menu soft key on the right. Select Set as Default Album. Now exit application and it works as it should.
3. Internet Tab - Install Opera from ROM Pack. Now use customizer to add the Internet Tab. Done! You will not have You Tube on the Internet Tab!
4. Music Tab - Install HTC Audio Manager from ROM Pack. Now use customizer to add the Music Tab. Done!
5. Scroll Bar Thickness - Posted a cab below to reset the scroll bar thickness back to the stock width of 12 pts. Just download and apply then SOFT REBOOT. This will also be in the next ROM / ROM Pack.
6. M2D Tip - Try disabling the extra tabs on newly selected themes as most themes leave all tabs enabled by default. This causes memory issues. Also try a soft reboot after changing a theme. A theme is composed of nearly 400 individual files. That bogs down the phone OS. I wish the author of M2D forced a reboot after a new theme was used but it doesn't.
7. You Tube - Install both files in the YouTube Folder. Soft reset and enjoy!
8. Kitchen files are posted. The files are a DCD 3.2.6 kitchen linked up above and the custom OEM's I used to build the ROM. I also included the latest OEMizer. Read my read me file for more info. Your own your own with the kitchen. Too big to support! Have fun and iuf you cook up something you want to share I will post it to my website. Just let me know!!!
9. Verizon Add On Pack Added - See this post for details and downloads - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2877143&postcount=204
Bug Reports and Fixes (if available)
Bug Reports and Fixes (if available)
1. M2D Maps doesnt link to Google Maps when searching....
Status: Seeking resolution
2. Camera not seeing storage card correctly in the Album application
Status: Confirmed NOT TRUE. Follow the directions above to make the Pictures Tab work properly!
3. At random the all programs button may not activate the all programs screen after exiting an application such as google maps. Rarely happens. Seems to be glitch in M2D. Oh well.
Status: Workaround: Slide the slider one to the left or right then back again. Its glitch I found on all builds of CE OS so all I know is that it is not windows or the ROM. Maybe the OEM
4. Gradient color bar across the top of screen.
**Not a bug or a glitch. You installed VistaHide Battery Gauge from the ROM Pack Apps folder. If you dont like it just delete the entry from start up or uninstall the app
Note: Considering a new OEM for Manila to make it more "Compatible" with the above apps "hopefully!" Will try creating one and see.
Thanks to all who pointed these out. I would consider these bugs. The intent was for them to work. I will look into a varios things to find a resolution. If you have one please feel free to post it tin the forum!
Upcoming features and current site stats
Upcoming features:
Im still alpha testing and doing daily rebuilds of "Round 4 - Media Edition" Its basically the same ROM, but with Album, Audio Manager, Google maps and You Tube all built-in and working 100%.
Full integration with M2D. Fixes all the bugs that have been reported about the integration failures.
+You Tube and Internet Tab Integration - YouTube link on the Internet tab and it works like it should.
+Google Maps and location Tab integration - Searching using the Location Tab now works. Had to build in Google Maps to make it work.
+Album and Audio Manager will be built in and integrated with the tabs
+Added device lock.
+Added a couple more themes and removed one or two.
+Added nueWiFiSwitch - Lets you reprogram the WiFi on/off switch for other functions like ringer.
+Reset the default tabs to add Location, Internet, Album, and Audio Manger.
+++Cleaned Up ROM Pack. Now just one CAB file with a shortcut in My Documents. Single CAB file will unzip all apps and themes to the My Documents folder. Very similar to original Round 4 but easier to manage and delete. Excluding carrier cabs. Frees up a lot of space that way!
Remember this is still in alpha testing. Need to work on the Album and Audio manager OEM's. Once that it done I am DONE!
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Interesting site stats for the download link (www.scottcrosler.com): since Novemeber 2nd at 12:00am midnight.
37 Gigs total data Downloaded !!!
520 Roms and kitchens Downloaded!!!
8 Pay Pal Donations!!!
9.25 Gigs a day average download rate!!
104 ROMS a day average download !!!
3.3 ROMS an hour average download rate!!!
A total of 8 Pay Pal donations! *Thank you much!!!
1 Pay pal donation per every 64 downloads average!!!
Two pay pal donations per day average!!
Almost 1000 page hits!!!
More than 50 percent of the people that go to the site download the ROM or the kitchen!!!
+ Dont deep link my ROM anywhere! I need the page counter to keep track of things. Deep linking will force me to post to RapidShare for accountability. No one wants that. My site is stupid fast and unlimited downloads to you. I do have to pay $15.00 a month but that is OK with me as long as I don't have to bump up my plan or pay any overage fees from Yahoo. You can how ever post links to www.scottcrosler.com (Just don't deep link please!).
And most importantly, Thank you for taking the time to download my work and more importantly trust my work! Thanks!
If you would like to donate to keep the site up please donate via paypal at www.scottcrosler.com. If you are not in a position to donate then please leave some positive feedback in the thread. Either would make me happy and motivate me to continue this project! I am also donating part of the proceeds to DCD and the M2D teams that made this possible!
woo hoo first reply
downloading as we speak
cant wait to rip into round 4!
thanks heaps in advance scott.
very informative first post also!
Damager said:
woo hoo first reply
downloading as we speak
cant wait to rip into round 4!
thanks heaps in advance scott.
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Great let me know what you think! I am going to stay up for a while to see who if any one replies back to night. Please do.
Thanks for being the first to check it out!
Downloaded.... Installed... Customized.... Running GREAT!!!!
Thanks Scott!!!!!!!!
kmagn13 said:
Downloaded.... Installed... Customized.... Running GREAT!!!!
Thanks Scott!!!!!!!!
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Thanks glad to hear!
flashed to new rom #4
installed all included programs except youtube.. no problem.. runs sweet.
touchflo picture tab says "cant find album searcher" .. no biggie ill look into later
had a go at installing all the included themes, all good, especially liked manila 2d white v2.. nice clock in that one. the blue theme came up with an error during the apply but didnt seem to be any probs after? also added my fav themes.. all installed fine.
installed all of my usual fav applications eg sms chat, tcpmp, skyfire and others.. no problem at all
speed is good everywhere.
rom 3 was good, but rom 4 is definitely a step up unquestionably.. have given the phone a good thrashing tonight with things open etc.. no auto shutdown of programs.. nice
opera doesnt shutdown touchflo.. might be just my good luck but nice surprise!
i cannot really fault this build. bloody awesome scott..
cheers and thanks!.. now i can go to bed
Nice work!
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NueSPL2.47 (OliPro 2.40 will more than likely work but I have not tested).
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Confirmed, it works fine with Olipro 2.4.
Flash in progress, will give you some feedback shortly.
Flashing now.
flashing now round 4, i had round 3 ,btw 3 issues i found on round 3:
1.this rom is too fast!!!
2. everytime my finger slides to the right and left i get exited.!!!
3. your effort and hard work has paid off!
not to bad for round 3 issues uh?
lets see how round 4 makes me feel
Edit: why does this rom feel faster than DCD 3.2.6? any changes in registry?
Edit 2: i did find a problem "minor problem" with the text messaging, everytime you go to a text it defaults to the top text before responding to a text, then you must type 1 letter to activate the text input in the SMS window, then you can send a message.
Sorry i thats the only issue i found.
Looks good Scott, my only request is that you release the kitchen files. I have several OEM only games and apps I install that I can't find in CAB format and lack the ability to convert to CAB myself.
Any chance you can RAR up your kitchen folder and post it as well?
Thanks,
BTC
- touchflo doesn't seem to be working in the start menu programs or any applications besides M2D
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- touchflo doesn't seem to be working in the start menu programs or any applications besides M2D
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You need TouchFloSL.
Make sure you set manilla exe in the exclusion list tho.
can we get a release for the dcd kitchen files?
Scott, I would also like to see a release for the dcd kitchen files? I have some personal files and have grown to like and use "UC Autorun" to do an automatic install of all my cab files and personal settings. Love you M2d Roms.
I just noticed that DCD 3.2.6 has an additional 30-something MB free total. I assume that all the extra's that you cook into the rom bring that total down?
i installed it it runs great..however is there anyway to make a button...such as center middle button on the device go back to the home screen on touchflow?
Damager said:
flashed to new rom #4
installed all included programs except youtube.. no problem.. runs sweet.
touchflo picture tab says "cant find album searcher" .. no biggie ill look into later
had a go at installing all the included themes, all good, especially liked manila 2d white v2.. nice clock in that one. the blue theme came up with an error during the apply but didnt seem to be any probs after? also added my fav themes.. all installed fine.
installed all of my usual fav applications eg sms chat, tcpmp, skyfire and others.. no problem at all
speed is good everywhere.
rom 3 was good, but rom 4 is definitely a step up unquestionably.. have given the phone a good thrashing tonight with things open etc.. no auto shutdown of programs.. nice
opera doesnt shutdown touchflo.. might be just my good luck but nice surprise!
i cannot really fault this build. bloody awesome scott..
cheers and thanks!.. now i can go to bed
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Thanks! Glad you liked it!!! I liked the Manilla Ver 2 as well! I also liked the OS X style theme. I'll look inot the Album issue. I was up till 4:00am working on this thing. Its inevitable I make one mistake ;p Heheheh....
JD's Kitchen & ROMS
First off let me say thanks to Conflipper Merdinh Mindfrost82 Scrosler DCD and DA_G !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Instructions: Unpack to your desktop, in the Kitchen folder there will be a batch file , click on the play button ... when it is done close out of it ... the batch file will finish the the update utility will start .... place phone in bootloader mode then flash
Warning:
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR PHONE UNLOCKED TO USE THIS ......
HOW TO UNLOCK: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42503 (Please Read Carefully)
ROM: 1.03.651.4
Known Issues-
Not Known
*Kitchen* DOWNLOAD: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bt86bb 21169 kitchen v4 *Kitchen v4* 3-04-09 (WinMo 6.5) (CURRENT)
*Mirror* (Thanks zero157h7) http://www.blakemitchellweb.com/jd/J...20Betakit3.rar 2-26-09 (old)
*ROM* DOWNLOAD: http://www.sendspace.com/file/731apf 21169 v4 ROM *ROM*v4.1 (WinMo 6.5) 3-04-09 (Most Current)
IF YOU CHOOSE TO BUILD OFF THIS ROM AND DECIDE TO POST IT PLEASE THANK ME
Don't know how to flash: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43266
Warning:
You and only you, are responsible for any changes you make to your PDA .... Flashing ROMs is a risk that you take that can potentially cause damage to the PDA ... I and the good people here will NOT be held responsible for such damage if it occurs .......
JD's Kitchen (WinMo 6.5)
Whats Included:
HTC Album
Total Commander
dciBattery
acb BT Toggle
PsXPShut
Teeter
Audio Booster
Audio Manager
Quick GPS
Voice Recorder
MP3 Trimmer
HTC Zip
MS Office
Adobe Reader
BT Printing Drivers
BT FTP
RSS HUB
JAVA
Streaming Media
Voice Command
Windows Live
HTC EZInput
HTC Xt9
HTC Taskmanager
Manila (with HD Contact Tab)
Manila (GSM OEM)
Opera 15954
Opera 15316
HTC Calculator
HTC Endkey (jd's Skin)
Random Access
LockStream DRM
WorldCard BCR
Sprite Backup
YouTube
CHANGE LOGS
2-18-09
(WinMo 6.5)
Initial Release
2-21-09
(WinMo 6.5)
Removed everything that depends on touchscrolling
added cachefilter.dll back in XIP
removed PhoneCanvas
Changed some settings
2-23-09
(WinMo 6.5)
Fixed issues with installing apps freezing the ROM
Filed touchrecognizer,PhysicsEngine,Ianimate from modules
Fixed message notification (thanks Mindfrost82)
2-26-09
speed up start screen
removed Ianimate.dll
remade kitchen
3-03-09
Base 21169.5.0.0
Removed youtube
Re-added Youtube
3-04-09
Found a true Dogfood build of 21169 (much better)
added YouTube back into kitchen
improved xip
Cleaned up kitchen a bit
ITS FINAL (until a new build comes)
Downloading now JD. I have high hopes for this.
cool JD
does the start menu work in this kitchen? or when you press the start does only the titanium honey comb pop up?
thanks
This is a copy and paste from my blog on thoughts on this rom and 6.5.
http://www.blakemitchellweb.com/blog/?p=31
I use an HTC Touch Pro and recently installed a custom rom running Windows Mobile 6.5. This particular rom was made by Jakdillard and posted at XDA devs. I am not sure about too much of the information as to what parts are used from 6.5 and 6.1. First off I will say that I installed and let customization run first. This had TF3D install and I wanted to get more of a feel for sliding panels. When I disabled TF3D and reenabled Titanium (Thiis the name for sliding panels) it never launched. I thought that there may have been a problem so I did a clear storage. Installation went on again and I did a soft reset during customization. Upon doing this it started back like I had done a clear storage again. This time I let customization run again, did the disable of TF3D and reenabling of Titanium and once again nothing happened but after doing a soft reset titanium was up.
So the performance is pretty wretched. It lags a lot but it is usable. I was able to perform a phone call, get on the internet using the new version of IE, set up google sync in activesync and synced my calendar and contacts, installed and set up funambol for push email, installed amaze gps and was able to get a lock, use wifi, and browsed through pretty much everything. I installed Diamond Tweak and enable some of the tweaks that improve performance but did not see any improvement. When I had IE open my memory was at 85% and it dropped to 37% when I closed it so it is a bit of a memory hog.The new menus are pretty nice and do improve the finger friendliness of the ROM.I like the transparent softkeys and start bar visually, and I like the new honeycomb start menu, although I think it could have been more visually stimulating. Also, We are able to edit the icons that we use on the start bar like we could before and it does not do anything to mess up the new transparent start bar. I installed this cab by tsowen from ppcgeeks and it looks good.
Sliding panels seems pretty nice but there is also a but of a let down. Many people will prefer TF3D or one of the other plethora of shells that can be used on the today screen. Like many of the others shells and today plugins you can't use any other today plugins with this one. I like the look of the sliding panels but the let down comes from the lack of customization straight out of the box. If I could change it I would have sliding panels have each individual setting able to be disabled (i.e. I do not use text messaging because I use email. I would do away with the SMS panel.) Also it is missing some features that are getting integrated into other options. If sliding panels had the ability for developers to develop plugins to cover some of the other areas it would be phenomenal. It is missing some things like weather, rss, im, facebook, and stocks.
I am going to keep running this ROM for another day at least to get a little more familiar. Hopefully I will get a chance to make some screenshots, install second today and see how they play together.
jarlaxle said:
This is a copy and paste from my blog on thoughts on this rom and 6.5.
http://www.blakemitchellweb.com/blog/?p=31
I use an HTC Touch Pro and recently installed a custom rom running Windows Mobile 6.5. This particular rom was made by Jakdillard and posted at XDA devs. I am not sure about too much of the information as to what parts are used from 6.5 and 6.1. First off I will say that I installed and let customization run first. This had TF3D install and I wanted to get more of a feel for sliding panels. When I disabled TF3D and reenabled Titanium (Thiis the name for sliding panels) it never launched. I thought that there may have been a problem so I did a clear storage. Installation went on again and I did a soft reset during customization. Upon doing this it started back like I had done a clear storage again. This time I let customization run again, did the disable of TF3D and reenabling of Titanium and once again nothing happened but after doing a soft reset titanium was up.
So the performance is pretty wretched. It lags a lot but it is usable. I was able to perform a phone call, get on the internet using the new version of IE, set up google sync in activesync and synced my calendar and contacts, installed and set up funambol for push email, installed amaze gps and was able to get a lock, use wifi, and browsed through pretty much everything. I installed Diamond Tweak and enable some of the tweaks that improve performance but did not see any improvement. When I had IE open my memory was at 85% and it dropped to 37% when I closed it so it is a bit of a memory hog.The new menus are pretty nice and do improve the finger friendliness of the ROM.I like the transparent softkeys and start bar visually, and I like the new honeycomb start menu, although I think it could have been more visually stimulating. Also, We are able to edit the icons that we use on the start bar like we could before and it does not do anything to mess up the new transparent start bar. I installed this cab by tsowen from ppcgeeks and it looks good.
Sliding panels seems pretty nice but there is also a but of a let down. Many people will prefer TF3D or one of the other plethora of shells that can be used on the today screen. Like many of the others shells and today plugins you can't use any other today plugins with this one. I like the look of the sliding panels but the let down comes from the lack of customization straight out of the box. If I could change it I would have sliding panels have each individual setting able to be disabled (i.e. I do not use text messaging because I use email. I would do away with the SMS panel.) Also it is missing some features that are getting integrated into other options. If sliding panels had the ability for developers to develop plugins to cover some of the other areas it would be phenomenal. It is missing some things like weather, rss, im, facebook, and stocks.
I am going to keep running this ROM for another day at least to get a little more familiar. Hopefully I will get a chance to make some screenshots, install second today and see how they play together.
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next time when you switch from tf3d to titanium soft reset
That is what I did the last time I changed over. By the way, I have not said thanks so thanks.
jarlaxle said:
That is what I did the last time I changed over. By the way, I have not said thanks so thanks.
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no Problem you can find more updates for this over and www.ppcgeeks.com that is where I generally post
Yeah, I post there more often than here, but had not noticed that it was there until seeing it here and going there to look for it. I thought it was strange that it was here and not there and once I got there I realized you had it in that thread but it did not say 6.5 in the first post (or I overlooked it.) Anyway, I will keep a close eye on that thread.
This a good rom pretty pretty sexy lol ummm i understand its extreme beta an its good i hope yall guys keep doing it up an making it right...yall guys should work for microsoft an htc lol
I have been using Da_g's 6.5 beta 8 for almost a week now and LOVE it. I made the modification to the cpr files to make Titanium a little smoother and more responsive. But the only issues I am left with is when switching from portrait to landscape my phone messes up the image on my homescreen. It clips it and warps it a little. I can fix it by disabling and re enabling titanium or a soft reset.
It always comes back though - does this rom do that?
Also when using RSS hub sometimes the device hangs for up to a minute. On this 6.5. I did not have this on NATF's 4.3 before.
Any help would be appreciated!
http://www.askTheAdmin.com
Very Happy with it.
Except for memory and slight performance tweaking this build has been working great for me on my sprint touch pro.
Thanks to jakdillard and others who developed this.
Some screen grabs would rock my world. TIA
hot my blog on the first page there are several although with my own background image and different icons.
updated .......
Hey JD.. So far I'm loving the ROM, especially placing manila into it.. no bugs as seen yet, enjoying, titanium bars, honeycomb, black diamond theme, facebook/netflix, new IE and just want to say thank you for your hard work. I will be rockin this 21169 v4 ROM *ROM*v4.1 for a while =D>
Well Done Bro,
God Bless
(as posted in PPCGeeks)
GODZSON said:
Hey JD.. So far I'm loving the ROM, especially placing manila into it.. no bugs as seen yet, enjoying, titanium bars, honeycomb, black diamond theme, facebook/netflix, new IE and just want to say thank you for your hard work. I will be rockin this 21169 v4 ROM *ROM*v4.1 for a while =D>
Well Done Bro,
God Bless
(as posted in PPCGeeks)
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How does performance compare to the 6.1 custom roms?
been some time since i have used a custom ROM... def. not on my TP but I have on my previous phones, "Mogul" and 6700... excited to give this a shot... post results soon
hairdewx said:
How does performance compare to the 6.1 custom roms?
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Perfomance is good, Touchflo is slow but that's a normality with .5 till a new version comes out.. other than that this is a nice ROM compared to others
stuck on align screen config page
after install kitchen rom, i am stuck on the align screen page. i tap on the + but it does not register. random circular motions cause it to advance to next location of + but it just repeats.
suggestions?
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problem on my device is not limited to this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490567
edit-
a couple of hard resets later and it seems to be working. weird quirk?
In any case, great rom.
Universal CDMA, Sprint, or Verizon?
I haven't seen anything posted saying this is carrier specific. Or what radio is compatible with it.
Can someone elaborate on that?
I was missing this task manager,This is the fix for WKTASKL for wm 6.5,
In the exclusion list include Start ,Settings, Connections , Personal ,System ,.This exclusion option can be obtain by adding the "titles" in the exclusion list, and check "dont close by X butt".Thats it, give ur feedbacks.
One more fatal fix
Also put Games, Office Mobile in the exclusion list. Or take out games say solitare, or bubble from Games folder, and put it programs folder and delete Games folder.Other folder follows the steps.
Also while putting names in add list , put the correct words like Setting , Start.
This is it, I want comments guys!
i am getting problem with it..actually itz theme.when i use of wikitask..theme of wktask is grey colour..while mine mobile theme is black colour so it lookz odd
amolji said:
i am getting problem with it..actually itz theme.when i use of wikitask..theme of wktask is grey colour..while mine mobile theme is black colour so it lookz odd
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May be someone comes up with that fix, that issue still remains, but u can change the colour manually.I think till WKTASKL has new V, it cant do well.
@Premo: Buddy you are doing fabulous efforts for getting it working, thats no question. But i think WKTask will give problems with WM 6.5 as it is not design to work with it. 6.5 Interface has gone major changes and one of these is MultiColor enabled themes. Under the new themes, the taskbar changes its look depending upon the place you are in the UI. Its transparent on the Today screen, semi transparent on the start menu and opaque in apps. WKTask is not compatible with these changes, its been designed for a static taskbar. Plus the start menu changes are also quiet big for it. It needs a new version before it can work properly.
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@Premo: Buddy you are doing fabulous efforts for getting it working, thats no question. But i think WKTask will give problems with WM 6.5 as it is not design to work with it. 6.5 Interface has gone major changes and one of these is MultiColor enabled themes. Under the new themes, the taskbar changes its look depending upon the place you are in the UI. Its transparent on the Today screen, semi transparent on the start menu and opaque in apps. WKTask is not compatible with these changes, its been designed for a static taskbar. Plus the start menu changes are also quiet big for it. It needs a new version before it can work properly.
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U r right.Thanks for the info.
WKTask Fix updated
Import the reg file.
A soft reset is necessary.
premolikeshtc said:
Import the reg file.
A soft reset is necessary.
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I would like to say thank you for this file. You are my savior. Because of incompatibility for wktask and WM6.5. I have been stopping myself exploring it. With the fix, I can enjoy WM6.5!!!
Thanks so much man!!!!
Hi everyone,
I'd like to do the following two things: 1st, remove the quicklinks on the (stock) homescreen on my HD2. To be more precise, those three I see by default when looking at the homescreen. The 3x3 block I get by scrolling down can stay.
2nd, I'd like to expand the appointments the calendar shows (which is the main reason for removing the quick links).
I know this can be perfectly done with CHT, since I used it all the time before. But CHT was also the reason for every single hardreset I've done, so I decided to stay as close to stock as possible (hence the Energy Standard ROM) and look into android in the upcoming weeks.
Is it possible to realize my request via 'simple' registry tweaks - or any other means but installing a full homescreen mod?
i don't know of any registry tweaks to do this....never really even seen it discussed.
have you tried energy's older roms with cht 1.8.5? i am using it and it is rock solid.
Ironically, most of the crashes on my HD2 occurred while using CHT 1.8.0 and 1.8.5 (manual installation on stock rom and an energy rom with cht included, respectively). I didn't use version 1.7.x for too long, but at least I had no problems with it back then.
I guess this really is one hell of a question I got here.
Alternatively, is there a way to change the icons of the quicklinks to some with a higher resolution? That'd at least make it visually more attractive.
ragemode said:
I guess this really is one hell of a question I got here.
Alternatively, is there a way to change the icons of the quicklinks to some with a higher resolution? That'd at least make it visually more attractive.
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download JWMD icon changer.......
then you can use any icons you want......
Id seriously look into CHT if I was you....
Even though 2.0 is still in beta its been rock solid for me (and most people)......
ive heard it runs really well installed on the energy reference series.....
Thanks for your quick reply. I guess that'll do for now.
As I already said, CHT is out of the question for me. It is an awesome tool, no second thought here. But you said it yourself: its rock solid "for most people".
I'll stay with my current energy rom and the standard interface and mess around with some android builds for now. This way I always have a stable WinMo installation I can fall back to in case a Android build does not suite my taste.
Anyway, thanks for your help and your concern