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Hi. I currently have a Uk O2 xda2 on version 1.72.181. wm2003
I would like to upgrade my device to the best & latest version suited for it.
Whilst experienced with computers in general, the whole area of rom's extended rom's, cooked rom's and radio stacks is new to me.
Can someone make a recommendation as to which rom I need, where I can find it, and exactly how to go about the upgrade. Also I would be very grateful I you could tell me what tools I will need.
Also is it possible to install wm2005?
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hey ryanxda2,
most people are having this upgrading problem!
but i have windows mobile 2005 and it is a great rom no matter what people say.
if you want to cheak things out the topic that started this wm2005 search is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18584&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
but if you want wm2005 and the latest leaked version of activesync 4.0 i have an upload site: http://www.freewebs.com/doglover7337/wm2005.rar
the file is commpressed in a rar format and you will need "winrar" a great commpression program for free http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
inorder to install wm2005 on to your ppc you need to sync your ppc with your computer and then run the file called:"HimaUpgradeUt.exe"
this program should autodetect your device and upgrade its rom. after the rom upgrade you need to hard reste your device, that is a little diffrent in wm2005:
you need to hold down power+camera+record buttons and press the reset button then let go, a menu should pop up, then go down to the last one and select yes (this can be done using the camera and the record buttons) after that press the scroll button hard and it should reset your device but before you connect your ppc to your computer you need to install activesync 4.0 because it has the driver for the new wm2005, after thats all done you should be set to explore all of the new rom and activesync!
There are some things I have to tell you about first:
this rom is in its alpha stage, but it is the most stable rom in alpha stage i have seen
also i have to tell you that sms ans mms are not there but you can still receive them, we are working on getting the mms and sms functions in the new rom
I recomend that you atleast try this new rom, if you don't like it you can always go back to you old one or 2003se, who knows you might love it and stay with this new rom (i did)
good luck and have fun!
hello,
I have a TSM500 (is the Telefonica name of the HTC, XDAII...)
Do you think that everything it is working now it will work:
TTN 3.07 (with a serial port connected TTN GPS device)
Phone (Movistar provide in Spain the mobile-phone operation)
SMS (I'm not using MMS...)
Microsoft OutLook (Sync with PC and Exchage Server under a VPN)
I have spent a lot of hours configuring and make it all work together and I have read wm2005 is slower and unstable...
Destroyer you have recomended to install it... For me, the only reason is to use in better conditions the BT stack (now, after upgrading ROM, EXT-ROM adn RADIO I got a non usable BT situation, that force me a hard reset and re-install all the programs again to become at the start point situation.
Do I get this improved BT functonallity: BT-Phone and system Audio, BT-Sync, BT-Ethernet access?
Thankyou
Best WM2003SE upgrade for UK 02 xda II
Thanks for that, I appreciate the response, and will download wm2005, i'll try wm2005 once I get a non essential unit to try it on. In the meantime, I'll be looking for advice & instructions on the best wm2003 se upgrade for my unit, what I need to consider etc etc.
Does anyone one have any suggestions on this?
I tried installing wm2003se yesterday. It wasn't too painful, and the UI looked a bit nicer, but there were two problems which I faced. Fisrstly, phone calls would default to the speaker phone whenever you made or answered them. Secondly, when putting it on standby, you couldn't wake the device from standby. A soft reset was required to get the device usable again.
I followed this thread here (gave up after reading about 20 pages of it). But it appears that I wasn't the only one who had those problems. I don't think they got as far as a solution either.
Wm2003se
Thanks Timmeh, I'll have alook at that thread now.
Just so that I've got it straight what version of each part should I be looking to install,and can I obtain them all in that thread?
I had tried an upgrade about 2 months ago which went onto my device ok, but some auto script in config file, kept popping up a dialog box, which I couldn't close, so I couldn't move to other functions!
Thx
When I tryed the upgrade, I didnt change the extended ROM, so when it went through installing everything, it all came up with "This program may not display properly...", which isn't a problem in itself. The problem comes from not being able to press the button to close the dialog, but you can press on the nav key, which works a treat. (The reason for this is in the config.txt file in the extended ROM, which tells the phone what order to run things, such as installing cab's, after a hard reset. A file called TPdisable.exe is run before installing everying else, which disables the touch pad.)
There are 2 options when upgrading from that link in the forum. One was posted by DC, and all you have to do is unzip it and run the upgrade exec (while ya phone is in the cradle). The other was posted by a mistery person, which is an exe installer.
DC's does not include an extended ROM (all the other apps that get installed with windows, like camera drivers), so using that will just use your existing exteneded ROM. The mistery mans file does have an extended rom included, however, I didnt use it, so I don't know if it's any good.
IMO, I would go with the mystery mans installer. His/hers is a slightly newer build of WM2003SE, and the extended ROM should work.
Before you do that though, it's worth getting hold of the existing ROM for your phone, so you can go back if you decide that you don't like it (as I did). You can download that from here, assuming that you have an XDA II and are on o2 uk, which your details would seem to suggest.
If you do it, let us know how it works out. I wouldn't mind maybe trying again, but as soon as I finish my dissertation, and have time to make a proper effort at my own custom extended ROM.
Thanks Timmeh, I'll give that a try now. I'll let you know how I get on
After 1 week that I use TNT 4 ROM , it seem a problem in my JAMIN
my jamin hang some times.
I installed these programs:
Battery Pack pro
Chronous Alarm
SPB Diary
SKTools
Resco Explorer
..
1-my jamin Hang and I don't know what !!
2-some times after restarting the startup screen( Balck page that written Windows Mobile 2006..) appear and don't load Windows then I must reset via pen my mobile.
3- today the biggest problem was happend.
after reastarting my device the blue page (that written IPL/ SPL/GSM/OS) appear and not happend after it ! in blue page my device stop !
I must restart 10-20 times with pen to load windows !
I try to upgrade my radio rom
it was:
IPL:2.13.0001
SPL:2.13.0001
GSM:02.20.21
OS:4.0.0.0
I upgrade it to 2.69 radio rom:
IPL:2.13.0001
SPL:2.13.0001
GSM:2.69.21
os:4.0.0.0
but my device in Blue page stop !!(in blue page written: i-mate ...)
My device work for 1 week ! why this problem appeare?
who can help me?
Thanks alot
Did you try to Hard Reset? (I think no)
Press and Hold Camera + Commanager botton and then press Soft reset botton
After that , It will become black screen with some white text , Then press Call botton.
In after few seconds you Prophet will come to life again.
PS. Hard reset may erase all of your data in phone memory.
maair said:
Did you try to Hard Reset? (I think no)
Press and Hold Camera + Commanager botton and then press Soft reset botton
After that , It will become black screen with some white text , Then press Call botton.
In after few seconds you Prophet will come to life again.
PS. Hard reset may erase all of your data in phone memory.
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Oh dear friend
Are u sure that after Hard Reset my Prophet come to life??
My Jamin was in health and work well.
but aftre some days these problems appeare !!
Is it because of radio Rom?
Are you sure that after some dayd later and isnatalling some programs these problems does not appeare?
Thanks
ebaskar said:
Oh dear friend
Are u sure that after Hard Reset my Prophet come to life??
My Jamin was in health and work well.
but aftre some days these problems appeare !!
Is it because of radio Rom?
Are you sure that after some dayd later and isnatalling some programs these problems does not appeare?
Thanks
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First off all, I feel sorry for you that your device stopped working the way it should, I mean that. But I wonder why you start this thread claiming the some ROM has killed your Prophet and then tell us that fooled around quite a bit with all kind of unrelated software and flashing.
Did you tried to find out what really causes your trouble? Did you reflash and installed the 3d party software one by one to isolate the one that to blame?
For what it's worth, I'v red about problems with SPB Diary somewhere in one of the treads. As I don't use it myselve I don't recall any details.
Of course!
Even if Hard Reset is not work , You can still flash your phone to Other rom such as PDAVIET , gollum Touch rom or WM5 official rom.
One thing you must check is just what version of the rom (G3 or G4).
ps. I use radio rom 2.69 for a while with no problem. Now I use 2.61 because it use less battery than 2.69 and have more stable on phone signal.(with my operator , True in Thailand)
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First off all, I feel sorry for you that your device stopped working the way it should, I mean that. But I wonder why you start this thread claiming the some ROM has killed your Prophet and then tell us that fooled around quite a bit with all kind of unrelated software and flashing.
Did you tried to find out what really causes your trouble? Did you reflash and installed the 3d party software one by one to isolate the one that to blame?
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Dear friend
I try to find what happen to my device, I always install programs one by one to make sure it does not damage my device.
I don't know why this problems happend !
I read all discussion in this FORUM about Stucking bootloader page..but not solving my problem...all of them hang their devices after upgrading rom, I use my prophet for some days after upgrading to TNT 4 ! after reseting in the blue page my device stopped !! I Must reset my device with pen some time to maybe load windows (
please help me to solve these problems because all program are standard and work in Windows mobile 2005-6
If a program damage my device loading windows is crashed, but i sayd in Ble page that written I-Mate ...SPL/IPL/GSM/OS... my device STOPED !
ebaskar said:
Dear friend
I try to find what happen to my device, I always install programs one by one to make sure it does not damage my device.
I don't know why this problems happend !
I read all discussion in this FORUM about Stucking bootloader page..but not solving my problem...all of them hang their devices after upgrading rom, I use my prophet for some dayd after upgrading to TNT 4 ! after reseting in the blue page my device stopped !! I Must reset my device with pen some time to maybe load windows (
please help me to solve these problems
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Just a hunge... did you reset while connected to USB (Active Sync)? That is known to be a problem whit all the WM6 ROM's. It seems that all that helps is an proper HR. And as I added to my previous remark, SPB Diary seems to be a troublemaker too, when used with the new WM6 ROM's, but as I don't use it, I'am not familar with the details.
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Just a hunge... did you reset while connected to USB (Active Sync)? That is known to be a problem whit all the WM6 ROM's. It seems that all that helps is an proper HR. And as I added to my previous remark, SPB Diary seems to be a troublemaker too, when used with the new WM6 ROM's, but as I don't use it, I'am not familar with the details.
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no, not after Active sync
It is random , it means a little time, after soft reset or after power off device my Jamin load correctly and in more times it hang and stop in Blue page !!
It is very wonderful !!
I am now Hard resetting my device
It is too hard for me to hard resetting my device because all program that i installed are deleted
I don't use backup software because I belleave if a problem is in my device in backup file is come too.
Hello,
If you want to use your phone and not mess around with it , just stop upgrading ,downgrading!! I really mean it. yes of course a hard reset will delete all your files and programs but if you want to care about these stuff , you really have to consider to stop messing with your device. I think if one day your prophet die, you are the person responsible not any ROM.
Just read the wiki / forum, use the search button and you will find what is good for your device, and what's gonna kill your device
about SPB Diary, I've been using this program since i bought my prophet, and i've had no problem with it so far. if you read the forum you will know that after upgrading or downgrading your radio rom you MUST perform a hard reset.
good luck my friend.
I am sorry to hear that.
节哀顺变吧！如果你来广东，我帮你修。可惜你是外国的。
I have the same problem, but my prophet not kiled!!! I'm sure is problem in some programs. I remove the battery and sim card. Wait some time, and back. After that prophet boot normal, but everytime when I power off (and sometimes after softreset) i have to do that. Somtimes help just softreset. I have same problem (not always) with PDAVIET and Gullum rom after installing 3d party software.
Sorry for my english.
I'm realy sad to hear about your problem with the phone but to say that it's the rom is a bit to much although some thing in the rom might give problems it's know that the 6 button homeplug is causing frezz on some devises.... but I have not expirienced any frezz on startup myself... and I have used TNT and all gullum roms .... so maybe the problem is related to IPL/SPL or radio rom not shure or even 3dr party software.. if it's not IPL/SPL or radio rom it must be 3dr party software because I have not installed any of them except for PocketCM by tena
ninjaz said:
I have the same problem, but my prophet not killed!!! I'm sure is problem in some programs. I remove the battery and sim card. Wait some time, and back. After that prophet boot normal, but every time when I power off (and sometimes after soft reset) i have to do that. Sometimes help just soft reset. I have same problem (not always) with PDAVIET and Gullum rom after installing 3d party software.
Sorry for my english.
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Which programs did you installed?
after 6-7 programs i installed my prophet hang in blue screen page !
I try to load windows after reset my device about 10 times with its pen, and uninstall new program i installed :Resco photo Viewr 6.33 professional edition,SMS group,Sprite mobile...but the problem not solved...and i hard reset my device again
if the problem occur in your device too because of these programs (such as sprite mobile (for prevention of stealing and thief mobile) then we can say the problem is because of this program (sprite mobile-but i know this program is compatible with WM6 ) .
If not it is a bug in TNT ROM that can't install more programs.
or we can say Soft reseting is limited in this ROM for example if soft reset is more that 30 times the windows not loaded !!!
I don't know, but it is a bug in this ROM !! so if this bug is in other W6 ROMs I come back to Aserg AKU 3.13
gullum said:
I'm realy sad to hear about your problem with the phone but to say that it's the rom is a bit to much although some thing in the rom might give problems it's know that the 6 button homeplug is causing frezz on some devises.... but I have not expirienced any frezz on startup myself... and I have used TNT and all gullum roms .... so maybe the problem is related to IPL/SPL or radio rom not shure or even 3dr party software.. if it's not IPL/SPL or radio rom it must be 3dr party software because I have not installed any of them except for PocketCM by tena
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Dear Gullum
we know that PPC is good for world of different program can be installed in these devices. and we know the programs in the ROM is not sufficient so we installed needed programs.
I know TNT 4 is full of application that non of the other ROMs don't have them.
I try to check some programs I installed in Prophet (TNT-4 -jamin)
the Sprite Mobile program work well, not any other program i installed, only Sprite Mobile...The device work well.
So it is a bug in ROM that can't initializing more program installed then windows not loaded !
if a ROM has this Bug we can't use it !!
we should check all WM6 ROMs and installed more that 10 famous Programs and soft reset every time we install a program.
So which WM6 ROM do u offer to install in our devices to work stable and correctly without this Huge bug that can't install programs !! ?
Thanks for your guidance.
The problem not solved
I installed some programs in my device (Jamin) but this problem appeare after installation, I installed one by one and accure for new problem but after softrest this problem appeare again
GULLUMN plz install some program in ur new ROM if work then put it in public.
only cube & touch version of ROM is not sufficient, we should can install programs on our ROM for more usage !
any body can help?
hi
hi im saeid from iran.
ebaskar
my device is to you
after 24 to 72 hours my my device drive is cleared!!!
all data loosed!!!
after hard reset, again after 24 to 74 hours repeat!
its virus on your memory card.
after any hard reset
you opening SD card and installing some programs...
this virus is run!!!
please format your sd card and close of device
so press camera and commanager button and press soft reset...
after black screen prees green key(call)
your devise is wholesome!!!
excuse me
my english is bad
I think i understand ur problem and yes its the rom to blame after flashing a next rom I did not have this problem well the solution was when u install any programs to your storage card remove the .ink files from Windows/Programs folder of all applications thats installed on the SD card and from startup folder after doing that it works well but as soon as I installed a program or tryed to make a shortcut it gives problems I suggest that you ether flash a next rom and problem salved or get a rom cook to edit the rom and fix it up to remove this bug hope it helps you can try it u got nothing to lose
Hello there,
I start this thread because i need some help from you guys.
Hopefully by this way a quicker answer or solution....
posted already my problems in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497347&page=122
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501147&page=21
And now here again...
when i flash this rom v3.3.1_3g_16_keys or the Insomnia 3G, i get problems with my dialer, When i press the phone button or try to dial a number i get a crash screen? it is not working. what to do?
I flashed to Radio 1.71.09.01 and also with this radio the 3G version roms are not working, the dialer part, still the blur sreen when i press the send button or try to dial a number!
The Insomnia - 2G are running without any problem at all? or the current one, is running smooth on my Niki 100 >>> Clean Black 6.5.2
Why i cant run the 3G roms? video dialer not supported in my country? or what - please any comments!
Sorry double posted after editing
Finally someone who is dealing with the same problems as I had.
I had the same problems with my other Nike, I could flash the original rom's or a 2g version but not the 3g version.
The problem wasn't 3g but only the dialer.
Randomelements suggest me to see if I had some bad blocks by using mtty, I didn't try that option because I sold my Niki, and now, after a short period of using an Iphone (that I didn't like at all) i finally have a Nike which is not having that issue.
I know it drives you mad because nobody has having that problem, the only thing I did was searching for a dialercab and I always installed it after I flashed a 3g rom.
I know this is not a real solution but I'm very curious if you can fix this issue.
(or maybe you get your hands on my old Nike )
Goodluck
did you always hard-resetted after flashing a new rom?
Hard...
twolf said:
did you always hard-resetted after flashing a new rom?
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I always use the customRUU with hard / soft reset option build in when i flash and i do a hard reset...
Good this possibly make any sense if do or not reset hard....
i have the same problem. i think it is insomnia 3.x problem.
in my case after hard reset i flashed new rom - ok,
i set up all settings, install xt9 - rom stuck. ok, hardreset.
set up again, is ok, but after 1 day it can't boot. ok
hardreset, flash again, hardreset, no set up, using clean rom,
next day can't boot up.
flash new radio, newest, older, the same problem.
fail.
flash NIKI Clean Black - works perfect - fast and smooth.
Are you guys flashing back to an original rom?
My niki was stuck in a loop not too long back, would not boot up properly, thought it had given up the ghost, it is a company phone so was going back to original t-mob rom. But this cured my problem, phone now works fine with any rom.
Try it, get an original rom, flash back, then try anything.
SteveCac said:
Are you guys flashing back to an original rom?
My niki was stuck in a loop not too long back, would not boot up properly, thought it had given up the ghost, it is a company phone so was going back to original t-mob rom. But this cured my problem, phone now works fine with any rom.
Try it, get an original rom, flash back, then try anything.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4799532&postcount=1218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3521491&postcount=2
But i still have the problem with the strange behaviour of the dialler, When i press the phone button or try to dial a number i get a crash screen?
A blur image - and nothing is working in the dialler screen.
I did all what could help, reinstall the original rom, flash SPLL / Hard / radio etc.. but without suc6..
I have installed this one: cleanblack 6.5.2 - animelover and this is working fine, no dialer problems at all.....
Maybe the video dialler in the 3G is the problem for me, i will try this weekend the 2G - 230XXX version..
The 2G versions are working... and i try a few others also no problem, but i didn't like them....
My current is the best for me right now, clean and quick, i love the Clean Black rom 6.5.2 and animelover is building a new version...
Hoi Stranger,
Ok I'm trying to help you, because I had the same issue, I read something in the thread but I need to know if your problem only excist with the Insomnia-rom because I don't think it is a problem whith the Insomnia-rom.
My phone had the same issue with almost all the 3g rom except the original, that's the reason I couldn't bring the phone back for repair.
I tried several rom's wm6.1 and wm6.5 from randomelements, salvyC, Insomnia, Davideuck etc etc and all the 3g roms gave me a scrambled screen on the dialer, the solution I offered you to add a 3g dialer after flashing was working for me, I found the 3g dialer in the 4shared folder from NemanjaLo.
As I told you before, that is not a real solution, I thought the 3g version from Gullum didn't gave me a scrambled screen, but I'm not sure about that.
If you do have the same problems as I wrote above, I think you have to try the mtty procedure as randomelements suggested me.
You can find that here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390606 but plse be carefull otherwise your phone ends as a doorstop and I don't think it is worth it.
Rataplan
WOUW
Hi Rataplan,
Thx for your effort to help me in a way to get a 3G on my NIKI100.
This procedure is maybe to tricky for me! i will investigate...
FYI > with 3G roms from Salvy or Insomnia i have a scrambled screen on the dialer.
Tried the Insomnia 2G version and this rom is fine but to slow and i try a few others..
Finally i flash this one > the animelover - Clean Black 6.5.2 and I'm very happy with it. i will go with this one....
BTW > When i started with my niki100 at the beginning, i flashed with the sspl-1.16-nike.exe procedure the HardSpl 1.22 file and i never never, flashed this one >>hardspl-1.15mfg-nike.nbh, make this any sense? could this be the reason?
Thnx all.
When i start with my niki100, i flashed with the sspl-1.16-nike.exe procedure the HardSpl 1.22 file and i never never, flashed this one >>hardspl-1.15mfg-nike.nbh, make this any sense? could this be the reason?
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You're right it is to tricky to use mtty that is the reason I didn't go for it to.
About flashing I don't think it make any sense because I start with hardspl-1.15mfg-nike.nbh and I had the same problem.
The only thing I know is that my Nike came from KPN but I don't know that is the problem.
I'm glad you found a rom that don't give you the problem.
Regards Rataplan
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Rataplan said:
You're right it is to tricky to use mtty that is the reason I didn't go for it to.
About flashing I don't think it make any sense because I start with hardspl-1.15mfg-nike.nbh and I had the same problem.
The only thing I know is that my Nike came from KPN but I don't know that is the problem.
I'm glad you found a rom that don't give you the problem.
Regards Rataplan
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That is funny, mine came from HI / KPN that could be the similarity, so we have a point, that might be all KPN / HI phones are fixed some how?
MTTY - Low Level Format would help?
Hello,
I downloaded the official rom from the official HTC website.
It is the WWE East Europe version - suited for my device because the SN is confirmed.
The download finished OK from the Europe 2 server.
I flashed by placing the extracted leoimg.nbh on the root of the SD Card.
I confirmed that the flash was successful - it shows the correct version number of Manilla, radio, etc. Additionally, the ROM is still only 448 MB.
However, the phone freezes all the time and/or restarts itself complely randomly - I have observed this 22 times in the past hour. Is anyone experiencing something similar?
I have redone the flash again, but the same issue occurs.
This is happening with no programs installed, no HSPL, etc. Everything is completely clean.
What can I do to stop this?
may i know why you flashed the latest stock rom using your sd card. would it not be easier to flash through your pc using a usb cable?
you might want to check the meaning of "bricking the phone"...........
then remove it from the title of the thread........
As Rurph mentioned, flash it via your pc, still following the instructions from theHTC site
I now tried flashing through PC, same freezing occurs.
To reiterate:
I have an original HTC HD2 bought from the official HTC shop in Czech republic.
I downloaded the latest official ROM for HTC HD2 from the official htc.com/cz website using my original serial number.
The download finished successfully every time (I tried it 5 times from all the different servers), and the SHA-1 hash of the files was identical every time.
I now flashed it using the normal PC method - everything appeared successful.
I also tried extracting the nbh file from the downloaded file - both by running the .exe file, and by extracting it using winrar - both methods gave me the same nbh file with the same SHA-1 hash. Then I moved the leoimg.nbh to the root of SD card and flashed using the SD-Card method. Everything appeared successful.
Both of the above methods give me a system that freezes completely at random. For example when starting the phone, it can just freeze (left it for 8 hours over night, it remained frozed), when moving from 1 tab to another (freezes in the middle of the animation), when opening the start menu, when going into settings, when making phone call, when opening SMS, and most importantly when NOT DOING ANYTHING AT ALL.
What can I do?
Try to flash an older Version.
I don't know if its possible, but maybe that solves your problem.
Did you have SPL 3.03? If no... Install HSPL and use a custom ROM like the one from NRGZ28 (EnergyROM)
If you an't flash the older version via RUU (Rom Update Utility) try to flash it from SD card. You can also perform a "task 29" with MTTY (before you flash)
But be careful, you can brick your phone...
I have always only used official ROMs from HTC, so I never needed HSPL so I never installed it. I also always prefer the official ROMs so I would rather not use a cooked one.
I think flashing an older version would solve the problem, however I would rather like to find out what the cause is...
So far, I managed to get my phone to a useable state by running Android from the SD card - it works flawlessly for all my purposes. The only problem was to start Android through Windows before windows manages to freeze...
Given that android does not freeze, I believe that the freezing problem must be a windows mobile issue.
Any suggestions for tracking down this freezing problem? Could it be a hardware issue?
hard reset. and if no better flash the rom again followed by hard reset.always hard reset straight away as soon as you see a glitch in a freshly flashed rom. don't ask me why, cos i don't know, but it does seem to help when a flash doesn't "take".
oh and you didn't leave the old application data folder on your sd card did you? or try to restore registry settings?
samsamuel said:
hard reset. and if no better flash the rom again followed by hard reset.always hard reset straight away as soon as you see a glitch in a freshly flashed rom. don't ask me why, cos i don't know, but it does seem to help when a flash doesn't "take".
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I always hard reset before and after a flash. No change - freezing still occurs.
Even when I did multiple hard resets, the freezing persisted.
The SD card is freshly formatted, checked for no filesystem errors.
I did not restore any settings or anything else - the problem occurs on a completely fresh clean flash.
Additionally, the problem occurs even with no SIM card or SD card inserted into the phone.
Overheating?
I concur with rr5678, seems more like overheating than ROM problems, esp. that I've had the same ROM for a week with no problems whatsoever
hence kind request to OP: check overheating threads and please change the thread subject to a more accurate one so it does not spread misinformation and panic
as for the overheating - 1st thing to do is installing BattClock and monitoring correlation between freezes and battery temperature
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Overheating?
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The phone is definitely not overheating. It is very cold to touch and it runs Android without a problem.
OK I did some more testing - going back to any previous ROM fixes the freezing. Then installing the newest ROM reintroduces the freezing.
Given that it is definitely not a hardware issue (works on previous ROM, works on Android, no overheating), it looks like a Windows mobile issue.
I am surprised that nobody else is experiencing this. How come I am the only one? What is so special about my phone?
And the new firmware can "brick" the phone - a less skilled user would not be able to do anything with a frozen phone...
Anyone know why I get no ringtones or alarm sounds when using 1.8?
Deliberate?
Edit: Weird, seems first time a check a ringtone or alarm sound list it's empy. I leave then go back, it's populated again. So self-fixing issue.
Edit 2: Yeah.. tabs got mixed up, completely wrong thread, sorry!
Anyone help?
HTC Support is as always useless - their advice was to take out the battery and put it back in...
Additionally, I think this is a similar problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818169
b2206015 said:
Anyone help?
HTC Support is as always useless - their advice was to take out the battery and put it back in...
Additionally, I think this is a similar problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818169
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Try another sim card if you can. I know it sounds crazy but...
wardh said:
Try another sim card if you can. I know it sounds crazy but...
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Thanks for the advice - but given that the phone freezes even with no SIM card inserted, I do not think that it is the case...
I have however tested inserting a different SIM card anyway, and the freezing occured again...
I too faced constant freezing problems with the official ROM but then I used HSPL and flashed a different radio (2.12 in my case) and ever since never faced any freezing problems..worth a try I guess...
epic fail
not being picky, but "bricking" is, as far I know, by definition an irreversible problem? Hanging and freezing and re-booting are not bricking.
That said, sorry to hear about your troubles.
Sounds like going back to your old ROM is the only solution right now.
b2206015 said:
Hello,
I downloaded the official rom from the official HTC website.
It is the WWE East Europe version - suited for my device because the SN is confirmed.
The download finished OK from the Europe 2 server.
I flashed by placing the extracted leoimg.nbh on the root of the SD Card.
I confirmed that the flash was successful - it shows the correct version number of Manilla, radio, etc. Additionally, the ROM is still only 448 MB.
However, the phone freezes all the time and/or restarts itself complely randomly - I have observed this 22 times in the past hour. Is anyone experiencing something similar?
I have redone the flash again, but the same issue occurs.
This is happening with no programs installed, no HSPL, etc. Everything is completely clean.
What can I do to stop this?
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Psaldorn said:
Anyone know why I get no ringtones or alarm sounds when using 1.8?
Deliberate?
Edit: Weird, seems first time a check a ringtone or alarm sound list it's empy. I leave then go back, it's populated again. So self-fixing issue.
Edit 2: Yeah.. tabs got mixed up, completely wrong thread, sorry!
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Well, to me it seems your phone just doesn't like custom ROMs.
Hi all, I have a strange problem during the calls.
The call start normally but then a buzz-noise starts, at this point I cannot ear anymore the other person. I can end the call, but still the noise is there. The phone doesn't seem blocked. The buzz is unstoppable until I reset the phone and restart. This problem happens quite often and so my phone is quite unusable...
I have these versions:
build: 21876.5.0.72
software: 5005.0001.76
SP-00
RIL 1.0
radio: 5001.0001.76
If someone has the same problem or know how to solve, I will appreciate the help.
Thanks
Ivan
ivan1975 said:
Hi all, I have a strange problem during the calls.
The call start normally but then a buzz-noise starts, at this point I cannot ear anymore the other person. I can end the call, but still the noise is there. The phone doesn't seem blocked. The buzz is unstoppable until I reset the phone and restart. This problem happens quite often and so my phone is quite unusable...
I have these versions:
build: 21876.5.0.72
software: 5005.0001.76
SP-00
RIL 1.0
radio: 5001.0001.76
If someone has the same problem or know how to solve, I will appreciate the help.
Thanks
Ivan
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Try a custom rom. Flash it with better radio roms that are available on this forum. If you haven't flashed your phone before, please read the instructions in the TG01 Rom section's sticky carefully. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654674
I had similar problem with Orange rom and after flash, I have never had any so called call issues.
drupad2drupad said:
Try a custom rom. Flash it with better radio roms that are available on this forum. If you haven't flashed your phone before, please read the instructions in the TG01 Rom section's sticky carefully. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654674
I had similar problem with Orange rom and after flash, I have never had any so called call issues.
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yes I already flashed it the same day I bought it. It was with the french Orange version, so I changed to the uk Orange version. I was thinking to try a custom rom but I am afraid to have then more instability respect to the official one.
I can say that the quality of the call when there is not the strange buzz-noise is good.
What type of ROM can you suggest? I mean a stable and robust one.
Thanks
Ivan
If you want to stick to just a neat rom with most programs removed, so that you can customize by adding cabs yourself - go for FFBoy's or miRoM
If you want something sense based - Aragon's rom or StonRom.
If you want to be adventurous and try something different - StonRom's maker Leeston, has put out couple of roms which are not very stable, but usable. You can also try miRom's hybrid rom which has spb shell, sense etc all mixed up.
There are plenty of sense roms out there by Aragon, FFboy, miRom, Leeston that I have used and I like.
I personally don't find any of the sense roms stable as there is an issue with HTC messaging and sometimes wireless. I haven't seen any solution to HTC messaging till date. Hence I have stopped using them.
I like Leeston's roms that are not Sense based. But they are being tweaked by Leeston to make them better, so you might not call them 'stable' just yet.
I am currently using miRom's clean stock rom. I had plenty of space so I have installed about 23 cabs on it to customize by my needs - even after that it's fast, stable, no-freeze, no hard resets needed, plenty of available memory and very usable.
drupad2drupad said:
If you want to stick to just a neat rom with most programs removed, so that you can customize by adding cabs yourself - go for FFBoy's or miRoM
If you want something sense based - Aragon's rom or StonRom.
If you want to be adventurous and try something different - StonRom's maker Leeston, has put out couple of roms which are not very stable, but usable. You can also try miRom's hybrid rom which has spb shell, sense etc all mixed up.
There are plenty of sense roms out there by Aragon, FFboy, miRom, Leeston that I have used and I like.
I personally don't find any of the sense roms stable as there is an issue with HTC messaging and sometimes wireless. I haven't seen any solution to HTC messaging till date. Hence I have stopped using them.
I like Leeston's roms that are not Sense based. But they are being tweaked by Leeston to make them better, so you might not call them 'stable' just yet.
I am currently using miRom's clean stock rom. I had plenty of space so I have installed about 23 cabs on it to customize by my needs - even after that it's fast, stable, no-freeze, no hard resets needed, plenty of available memory and very usable.
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Thanks
yes I prefer stability in a phone, thinking also to the emergency call. Thinking that the phone could freeze during an emergency call, make me unconfortable.
I will try a clean rom.
Thanks for the help
ivan1975 said:
Thanks
yes I prefer stability in a phone, thinking also to the emergency call. Thinking that the phone could freeze during an emergency call, make me unconfortable.
I will try a clean rom.
Thanks for the help
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Good luck mate! I hope it works out well for you.
It's real annoying when phones stop working as phone but more like iPhone!
Also, through experience radio 1600/1700 work better. But depends on network provider. For me 1600 is better than 1700.
drupad2drupad said:
Good luck mate! I hope it works out well for you.
It's real annoying when phones stop working as phone but more like iPhone!
Also, through experience radio 1600/1700 work better. But depends on network provider. For me 1600 is better than 1700.
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I was thinking to have solved the problem, but not. I installed both the mirom4 and the mirom8 but the same call problem (both with radio 1700). The mirom8 is perfect, but I cannot use the phone. I first buyed this phone with the french language and win 6.5.0 so I tryed to install back an official toshiba rom with the french language and it works . The phone works. With the official english version it doesn't work. The radio of this version is the 5001.0201.76 and the build of the system is 21876.5.0.72 exactly as the english version but only the radio is different.
Could someone explain me why it works only with the french operating system?
An other test! I installed the spb shell 3.5.5 on the french operating system and the phone makes the same problem....
Deinstalling it, and only after an hard reset the phone works again.
Why the hard reset is necessary, what are the components of the spb shell that can cause the problem?
At this point I believe it is a software problem...
To describe better the problem I saw that when the audio freeze during the conversation, if I try to modify the volume settings the window with the volumes appears but I can see only the system volume while the phone volume is a black empty space. The phone is responsive for a while, then it crash completely and only after a soft reset it restars.
It is a big big problem
ivan1975 said:
I was thinking to have solved the problem, but not. I installed both the mirom4 and the mirom8 but the same call problem (both with radio 1700). The mirom8 is perfect, but I cannot use the phone. I first buyed this phone with the french language and win 6.5.0 so I tryed to install back an official toshiba rom with the french language and it works . The phone works. With the official english version it doesn't work. The radio of this version is the 5001.0201.76 and the build of the system is 21876.5.0.72 exactly as the english version but only the radio is different.
Could someone explain me why it works only with the french operating system?
An other test! I installed the spb shell 3.5.5 on the french operating system and the phone makes the same problem....
Deinstalling it, and only after an hard reset the phone works again.
Why the hard reset is necessary, what are the components of the spb shell that can cause the problem?
At this point I believe it is a software problem...
To describe better the problem I saw that when the audio freeze during the conversation, if I try to modify the volume settings the window with the volumes appears but I can see only the system volume while the phone volume is a black empty space. The phone is responsive for a while, then it crash completely and only after a soft reset it restars.
It is a big big problem
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Try the italian radio
5001.0300.76
All european users have positive feedback using it
ivan1975 said:
I was thinking to have solved the problem, but not. I installed both the mirom4 and the mirom8 but the same call problem (both with radio 1700). The mirom8 is perfect, but I cannot use the phone.
Could someone explain me why it works only with the french operating system?
An other test! I installed the spb shell 3.5.5 on the french operating system and the phone makes the same problem....
Deinstalling it, and only after an hard reset the phone works again.
Why the hard reset is necessary, what are the components of the spb shell that can cause the problem?
To describe better the problem I saw that when the audio freeze during the conversation, if I try to modify the volume settings the window with the volumes appears but I can see only the system volume while the phone volume is a black empty space. The phone is responsive for a while, then it crash completely and only after a soft reset it restars.
It is a big big problem
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When you say miROM8 is perfect but you cannot use the phone - does it mean, it doesn't flash properly or it keeps freezing? or does it only have call issues? I remember miROM talking somewhere about different language issues in his posts, I will try and dig into it. I am sure there is some sort of solution for language issues with roms and SPB Shell too - just hang in there.
I am presuming it's an radio issue now. But there is a way to change radios irrespective of what rom you install. its here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699764
wafeeq said:
Try the italian radio
5001.0300.76
All european users have positive feedback using it
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I have not tried this radio, but would be worth a go if it is going to make my phone even better!
drupad2drupad said:
When you say miROM8 is perfect but you cannot use the phone - does it mean, it doesn't flash properly or it keeps freezing? or does it only have call issues? I remember miROM talking somewhere about different language issues in his posts, I will try and dig into it. I am sure there is some sort of solution for language issues with roms and SPB Shell too - just hang in there.
I am presuming it's an radio issue now. But there is a way to change radios irrespective of what rom you install. its here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699764
I have not tried this radio, but would be worth a go if it is going to make my phone even better!
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With Mirom8 the system is fast and stable and the issue of the call that freeze happens only after some minutes (2-3 minutes). With mirom4 instead the problem is quite simultaneus at the start of the call (less than one minute). Mhmm I am not sure if it is a radio issue. If it is a radio issue, why the french version stopped to work when I installed the spb shell? Does the spb shell modify the radio files?? I was more thinking to a windows problem. But I am completely ignorant about this system and how it works.
I could try the italian radio, but I am starting to be afraid that I will never find a stable solutuion. I am thinking it is a software problem, but I cannot exclude an hardware failure of my system.
Thanks
Ivan
ivan1975 said:
With Mirom8 the system is fast and stable and the issue of the call that freeze happens only after some minutes (2-3 minutes). With mirom4 instead the problem is quite simultaneus at the start of the call (less than one minute). Mhmm I am not sure if it is a radio issue. If it is a radio issue, why the french version stopped to work when I installed the spb shell? Does the spb shell modify the radio files?? I was more thinking to a windows problem. But I am completely ignorant about this system and how it works.
I could try the italian radio, but I am starting to be afraid that I will never find a stable solutuion. I am thinking it is a software problem, but I cannot exclude an hardware failure of my system.
Thanks
Ivan
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hello Ivan,
load my RADIO changing Kitchen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823706
With this you can extract the FRENCH Radio and combine with another ROM, as miROM8.
hope it helps, miro
ivan1975 said:
With Mirom8 the system is fast and stable and the issue of the call that freeze happens only after some minutes (2-3 minutes). With mirom4 instead the problem is quite simultaneus at the start of the call (less than one minute). Mhmm I am not sure if it is a radio issue. If it is a radio issue, why the french version stopped to work when I installed the spb shell? Does the spb shell modify the radio files?? I was more thinking to a windows problem. But I am completely ignorant about this system and how it works.
I could try the italian radio, but I am starting to be afraid that I will never find a stable solutuion. I am thinking it is a software problem, but I cannot exclude an hardware failure of my system.
Thanks
Ivan
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mirolg said:
hello Ivan,
load my RADIO changing Kitchen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823706
With this you can extract the FRENCH Radio and combine with another ROM, as miROM8.
hope it helps, miro
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I don't think SPB will have any effect on radios. Try Miro's solution, it will work. Did you see if your SPB version has got correct language? There is some sort of registry edit too, regarding SPB shell - it comes in many languages. However, let's not go into reg edit just yet, if Miro's solution will solve it for you.
Also one important thing - are you flashing the rom correctly? i.e. hard reset after the flash by holding volume up + camera + power? It makes a huge difference by doing so. If it doesn't work, try flashing stock rom, then hard reset, then miROM8 then hard reset, then spb shell and then soft reset - this might solve if it's silly bug!
Good luck
drupad2drupad said:
I don't think SPB will have any effect on radios. Try Miro's solution, it will work. Did you see if your SPB version has got correct language? There is some sort of registry edit too, regarding SPB shell - it comes in many languages. However, let's not go into reg edit just yet, if Miro's solution will solve it for you.
Also one important thing - are you flashing the rom correctly? i.e. hard reset after the flash by holding volume up + camera + power? It makes a huge difference by doing so. If it doesn't work, try flashing stock rom, then hard reset, then miROM8 then hard reset, then spb shell and then soft reset - this might solve if it's silly bug!
Good luck
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Hi guys I quoted only one answer but I thanks all of you. So I think that your suggestions are good. I must try to create a rom with the radio that presumably could work with the rest that I like. I made the hard reset every time I flashed a new rom. So what I can do is to make the hybrid rom and then flash it on the phone after the stock rom making an hard reset every time.
Ok I will try, I like this little piece of tecnology
Hi all, so an update to the situation. I tried to install the radio 5001.0300.76 on the mirom8, but after the installation i choosed the spb shell as interface without trying a first call on the fresh installation.
I made a tentative after the installation of the spb shell and I was unable to make a call longer than 30 seconds.
So I used the rom 5001.0201.76 from the french rom in the mirom8. This time I tried to make a call without setting the spb shell as interface but using first the windows interface.
It worked!!! I was able to make a call!
Then I tryed to use the spb shell and the same problem! The call was freezing.
So I tried with the HTC interface and it is working!
I don't know if with the radio 5001.0300.76 could work. I think yes. But for the moment I will keep this version.
The only thing is that I prefer the spb shell and not the HTC but for now I am happy to have a working phone.
I am wondering, what is the cause of this failure? Is my phone buggy? I mean the hardware of my phone in theory is the same of yours, so why I am not able to run all the roms?
ivan1975 said:
Hi all, so an update to the situation. I tried to install the radio 5001.0300.76 on the mirom8, but after the installation i choosed the spb shell as interface without trying a first call on the fresh installation.
I made a tentative after the installation of the spb shell and I was unable to make a call longer than 30 seconds.
So I used the rom 5001.0201.76 from the french rom in the mirom8. This time I tried to make a call without setting the spb shell as interface but using first the windows interface.
It worked!!! I was able to make a call!
Then I tryed to use the spb shell and the same problem! The call was freezing.
So I tried with the HTC interface and it is working!
I don't know if with the radio 5001.0300.76 could work. I think yes. But for the moment I will keep this version.
The only thing is that I prefer the spb shell and not the HTC but for now I am happy to have a working phone.
I am wondering, what is the cause of this failure? Is my phone buggy? I mean the hardware of my phone in theory is the same of yours, so why I am not able to run all the roms?
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First of all, I am so glad you can now use your phone as a phone!
Secondly, I think it's something to do with bugs left from your installation.
I would even advice you another flash process : This one has ALWAYS worked for me, when I thought I had bugs that won't go with hard reset. I don't know if 'bugs left after hard reset' theory is true technically, but for me it works. Try the following:
Get the phone back up so that you don't have to look for contacts.
You can also get a program called - XDA_UC - it's brilliant piece of work. Put all your cabs for this program as instructed and you won't ever have to worry about installing cabs after flash - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6928610#post6928610
Once you are ready, hard reset your phone. Then get miROM4 http://www.miromworld.webs.com/ to flash on it. Hard reset etc after flash. Then install clean SPB SHELL on this miROM4 - it works like charm. If you want customization, use MSkip's Ultimate Elegance V2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5373943&postcount=1715
and you will never not love your phone. Just remember to edit the radio in miROM4 before you flash. I have got this on my phone and it works fast, stable, beautiful, accessible and fun!
Hope this helps.
drupad2drupad said:
First of all, I am so glad you can now use your phone as a phone!
Secondly, I think it's something to do with bugs left from your installation.
I would even advice you another flash process : This one has ALWAYS worked for me, when I thought I had bugs that won't go with hard reset. I don't know if 'bugs left after hard reset' theory is true technically, but for me it works. Try the following:
Get the phone back up so that you don't have to look for contacts.
You can also get a program called - XDA_UC - it's brilliant piece of work. Put all your cabs for this program as instructed and you won't ever have to worry about installing cabs after flash - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6928610#post6928610
Once you are ready, hard reset your phone. Then get miROM4 http://www.miromworld.webs.com/ to flash on it. Hard reset etc after flash. Then install clean SPB SHELL on this miROM4 - it works like charm. If you want customization, use MSkip's Ultimate Elegance V2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5373943&postcount=1715
and you will never not love your phone. Just remember to edit the radio in miROM4 before you flash. I have got this on my phone and it works fast, stable, beautiful, accessible and fun!
Hope this helps.
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Thanks
I would also try to make my own rom
Here I found a lot of help
I am also interested in android on our phone. I saw that they are quite succeding in booting the kernel. I would also try this, becasue at work I am using linux and I am programming under linux.
Having linux on our phone could be very useful.
Thanks I will try the procedure you suggested!
Ciao
ivan1975 said:
Thanks
I would also try to make my own rom
Here I found a lot of help
I am also interested in android on our phone. I saw that they are quite succeding in booting the kernel. I would also try this, becasue at work I am using linux and I am programming under linux.
Having linux on our phone could be very useful.
Thanks I will try the procedure you suggested!
Ciao
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cool, cool, cooll. i will to be the first that testing your AndroidROM!
i wish you a good work
ivan1975 said:
Thanks
I would also try to make my own rom
Here I found a lot of help
I am also interested in android on our phone. I saw that they are quite succeding in booting the kernel. I would also try this, becasue at work I am using linux and I am programming under linux.
Having linux on our phone could be very useful.
Thanks I will try the procedure you suggested!
Ciao
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I am using Linux on my laptop at home too! I can't say how excited I am to use linux. I wish I could know more about linux, but I've just ditched Windows about 2 months back. So I am a very newbie with no idea to linux cmd line but only GUI. If you need tester for anything please let me know.
drupad2drupad said:
I am using Linux on my laptop at home too! I can't say how excited I am to use linux. I wish I could know more about linux, but I've just ditched Windows about 2 months back. So I am a very newbie with no idea to linux cmd line but only GUI. If you need tester for anything please let me know.
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eh eh eh no no quiet! I am saying I would try the kernel that the guys in toshdroid are implementing now. I am using linux since more than 15 years. But using and programming under linux is a different thing than the ability to make reverse enginering on a complex device as our phone. It is a very complex job.
But I want try to boot the kernel that the toshdroid developers are testing
For now I am enjoing the working phone
drupad2drupad said:
First of all, I am so glad you can now use your phone as a phone!
Secondly, I think it's something to do with bugs left from your installation.
I would even advice you another flash process : This one has ALWAYS worked for me, when I thought I had bugs that won't go with hard reset. I don't know if 'bugs left after hard reset' theory is true technically, but for me it works. Try the following:
Get the phone back up so that you don't have to look for contacts.
You can also get a program called - XDA_UC - it's brilliant piece of work. Put all your cabs for this program as instructed and you won't ever have to worry about installing cabs after flash - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6928610#post6928610
Once you are ready, hard reset your phone. Then get miROM4 http://www.miromworld.webs.com/ to flash on it. Hard reset etc after flash. Then install clean SPB SHELL on this miROM4 - it works like charm. If you want customization, use MSkip's Ultimate Elegance V2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5373943&postcount=1715
and you will never not love your phone. Just remember to edit the radio in miROM4 before you flash. I have got this on my phone and it works fast, stable, beautiful, accessible and fun!
Hope this helps.
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After some days of work, I was quite happy, but today the same problem. I was on a call and suddelny the crash. No SPB shell, no other software installed. I will try as last tentative the procedure of flash different times with the master clear. If then I will have the same problem I will send back the phone. At this point I cannot exclude that my phone is buggy in the hardware