Can somebody recommend a stereo bluetooth headset for the HD which has a 3.5 mm jack to use your own headphones?
Thx
I'm confused by this - Why would you need a 3.5mm jack if they're bluetooth??
I use the Motorola S9 bluetooth headset and it works perfectly - I also have iTech blueband ones, but not tried those as yet (no need to really)
I tried my sony wired phones last night watching a movie on it and they work perfectly as well (first time I tried the 3.5mm jack output)
I use the Sony DS980, and the sound is awesome. Its got a mic on it, as well as an OLED console display that lets you access your phone book, make calls, displays song title, etc.. but check it out on youtube.
I've got the Motorola S9 as well and can't recommend it.. the sound, the build quality, the features, battery life -- all pretty poor.
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I'm confused by this - Why would you need a 3.5mm jack if they're bluetooth??
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It's a simple explanation: I don't want to have to take it out of my pocket when I'm listening to music or taking a phone call and I want to use my own Sennheiser earphones.
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I use the Sony DS980, and the sound is awesome. Its got a mic on it, as well as an OLED console display that lets you access your phone book, make calls, displays song title, etc.. but check it out on youtube.
I've got the Motorola S9 as well and can't recommend it.. the sound, the build quality, the features, battery life -- all pretty poor.
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I have ds-980 as well, but if i use it with my hd the music not clear. How can it be???? if i use with other mobiles like nokia or Sony Ericcson it is awesome
I don't want to have to take it out of my pocket when I'm listening to music or taking a phone call and I want to use my own Sennheiser earphones
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STILL not with you on this dude - they're either wired OR bluetooth, certainly the way I interpret it (unless you mean a dongle of some description???)
Is there some kind of product out there that allows you to 'piggy back' into and use regular wired headphones into them or something??
I wouldn't dispute that the Sony's are way better than the motorola - I can't use earbud phones though [at all!] otherwise I'd love to give them a try - and yes, now you mention it the battery life really does suck too - I use mine only ever in the gym though so they're fine for a couple of hours at a time
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STILL not with you on this dude - they're either wired OR bluetooth, certainly the way I interpret it (unless you mean a dongle of some description???)
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Yep, that's what mean.
Here are two examples for these devices:
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LaPank said:
Can somebody recommend a stereo bluetooth headset for the HD which has a 3.5 mm jack to use your own headphones?
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I have tried both the SE HBH-DS205 (your bottom picture) and the Sony DRC-BT15 (your top picture). I think that the SE version has nice sound (good bass and highs, even without Audio Booster in stock Audio Manager), but it has no playback controls, so the phone willl need to come out of you pocket sometimes.
The Sony version has playback controls, but it is very thick and the sound was a bit "tinnier" to my ear.
With both of these units, I had issues with swistching between calls and music. Sometimes the switch back to music works, sometimes it doesn't and the music comes out through the handset speaker at full volume (much to the chagrin of NYC subway riders around me). I have read in these forums that disabling or adjusting the min/max BT bitpool can alleve these problems, but I like my bitpool high for the sound and am tooo lazy to fiddle around with min/max settings, sooo...
I just use Ultimate Ears Super.fi 4vi, a wired set with a very lightweight profile, a mic and (most importantly) the best sound (to my ears) out there for a 2-in-1 headset.
LaPank said:
It's a simple explanation: I don't want to have to take it out of my pocket when I'm listening to music or taking a phone call and I want to use my own Sennheiser earphones.
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Then just get Blutooth headphones - like the motorola S9. You can take calls, listen to music, skip tracks etc. Most ones allow that.
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Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200, for me the best.
sk801, is it possible to use the Sony BT dongle to control the HD, while using your Superfi connected to the HD by the 3.5mm port (wired) for earbud sound?
Also, I assume your 4 vi control/mic is working on the HD? What controls does it have aside from call pickup/end?
perhaps stupid question, im looking for a stereo BT device and those sony ones look quite nice BUT do they work to skip tracks while you're playing music on the htc player and the pda has the screen off???
I have Motorola Pilot
MOTOROLA SOUND PILOT S705,
...Remote Control...Play, Pause, Volume And Track Control. Ability to take calls in mid music,3.5mm Headset Included... Or Use Your Own, Extended Range...Up To 330 ft., FM Radio, Wear Comfortably...Shirt Clip And Neck Strap Included, Caller ID And FM Station Display,Talk/Music Time...Up To 7hrs. Standby Time Up To 3 Days
I my case I am using it with my own Sony MDR-NX2 that comes with a convenient neck-strap, so I hang the bluetooth there, they are really comfortable, the sound is very good, you can lock the buttons, and you can find both things on ebay. I used to have and HTC advantage so it was very bulky to use it as phone, so these both products made my life easier, and now with my htc touch HD I am using them too, because I don't like the wires and the headset that comes with it. on the other hand you can use also the bluetooth with regular speakers if you own ones to streem and answer your calls from it.
the sony 980 doesn't work very well? both of you get the same results? i was thinking of buying that... if you could explain then it would be greatful thanks!
What do you guys thing about the new Sony HBH-IS800? You think they will be worth it? I mean will I be able to skip tracks with them?
Here a litte picture of the earphones:
Definitely thinking about buying them!
Ascenca
I bought a Samsung SBH650 headset BT kit for 49 euros, just wonderful with the HD ! And there's a 3.5mm jack to plug your own earphones.
You can try Jabra BT3030. It has 3.5 connector and suberb design. Quality of sound is no so perfect if you compare to wired connection, but this good compromiss between a player/phone management comfort and sound quality.
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/uk-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx
alx240575 said:
You can try Jabra BT3030. It has 3.5 connector and suberb design. Quality of sound is no so perfect if you compare to wired connection, but this good compromiss between a player/phone management comfort and sound quality.
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/uk-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx
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I love it every day [email protected]!
Hi,
as you noticed from the signature, after few months of happy use of the Shure Se-110 i got (thanks Pere Noel!) a pair of...
WESTONE3
The problem: my vocabulary is not good enough to describe the feelings they generate
...basses....middles...highs...
The first reaction, is to forget the audio booster and the equalizer, to learn how it should have been in reality...
Maybe the best comment is: It feels like being there.
Forgetting for a second the description of how good they are (check here for better poetry! http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/...thing-else-aka-w3-appreciation-thread-386477/ )
One comment specific to the touch HD: forget about the 100 dB limitation unless you bought it in EU (i got it in switzerland) and you are using stock roms. I am actually thinking to cook my ROM (see signature) to be optimized for audiophiles, all WWE ROMS are not affected by this tweak.
Thanks to everybody that answered my original question in the thread, actually the hint towards the westone3 came first from NOBELOVE - thanks NOBELOVE! - you made me see the world in colours!!!
For the best value get the Moto HT820's
The HT820's are still available from several places including Amazon and are only $38 (US)!! Really an amazing piece of equipment for the price. Great sound for music and phone calls and it does have a 3.5mm jack (cable even comes with it).
Oh, disregard my post. I was confused by the OP's question. The 820's are still pretty great for $38 though.
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Hello.
I just switched to Atrix from Fuze which I used for last 4 years. One thing I'm missing is headphones with microphone AND volume control, so I don't have to pull out the phone to lower the volume..So far I wasn't able find any such headphones, just a few with mic, but no volume control..
Preferably earbuds that can be placed outside of the ear canal
Any suggestions?
Thank you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875982227&cm_re=s9_hd-_-75-982-227-_-Product
Check those out, I just bought them, received them today. I heard many good things about it and read many reviews, almost all of them excellent. They have very exceptional sound quality, and come with a charger and three sets of ear buds. two of them larger, and one small. The larger ones work best for me. It works great for calling. It also has an added HD feature which can be activated or deactivated. The best part about it is... No cords! Even though it's bluetooth, the sound quality is so much better then normal headphones.
jbrussee said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875982227&cm_re=s9_hd-_-75-982-227-_-Product
Check those out, I just bought them, received them today. I heard many good things about it and read many reviews, almost all of them excellent. They have very exceptional sound quality, and come with a charger and three sets of ear buds. two of them larger, and one small. The larger ones work best for me. It works great for calling. It also has an added HD feature which can be activated or deactivated. The best part about it is... No cords! Even though it's bluetooth, the sound quality is so much better then normal headphones.
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How's it do calls without a mike?
Try Klipsch S4i's
barry99705 said:
How's it do calls without a mike?
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They have a mic....
jbrussee said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875982227&cm_re=s9_hd-_-75-982-227-_-Product
Check those out, I just bought them, received them today. I heard many good things about it and read many reviews, almost all of them excellent. They have very exceptional sound quality, and come with a charger and three sets of ear buds. two of them larger, and one small. The larger ones work best for me. It works great for calling. It also has an added HD feature which can be activated or deactivated. The best part about it is... No cords! Even though it's bluetooth, the sound quality is so much better then normal headphones.
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I have these headphones too (actually I just replied to your other post) and wanted to know how you turn the HD mode off and on. I never seen that.
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I have the s4i's and they do not work for volume control on the Atrix. The microphone does work however. I absolutely love the headphones and their sound quality is fantastic for music. Easily the best sub $100 headphones I've owned. Their remote however, is designed to work with iOS devices. I came from a 3gs to the Atrix which is why I bought them and they worked great with the 3gs. The remote does not function with the Atrix though.
Johnny, you hold the forward seek button down to turn it on and off
Sent from my GingerBlur'd, de-odex'd, modded Motorola Atrix 4G (ish.)
jbrussee said:
Johnny, you hold the forward seek button down to turn it on and off
Sent from my GingerBlur'd, de-odex'd, modded Motorola Atrix 4G (ish.)
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Believe it or not the head phones sound better without the hd on due to an ear condition I have. Thanks for the info.
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So are there ANY wired headsets that work w/ the Atrix and allow music pause/resume and phone call answer/hangup?
I love the phone, but every time I slap my SIM back in my iPhone 4, it's such a frickin' relief that I can count on pausing audio playback, and answering calls by clicking my mic button.
I realize that w/ Android, there is not only no standardized hardware, but the music playback apps vary in functionality. For the record, I use Double Twist, and mostly listen to podcasts. Man, I would kill for an in-ear headset that could be controlled by the mic biutton. I don't even care about volume control at this point, it seems like an absurd fantasy to hope for such a thing on the Atrix.
monofurioso said:
So are there ANY wired headsets that work w/ the Atrix and allow music pause/resume and phone call answer/hangup?
I love the phone, but every time I slap my SIM back in my iPhone 4, it's such a frickin' relief that I can count on pausing audio playback, and answering calls by clicking my mic button.
I realize that w/ Android, there is not only no standardized hardware, but the music playback apps vary in functionality. For the record, I use Double Twist, and mostly listen to podcasts. Man, I would kill for an in-ear headset that could be controlled by the mic biutton. I don't even care about volume control at this point, it seems like an absurd fantasy to hope for such a thing on the Atrix.
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Search for Headset Button Controller on the market. It's not a free app but it allows you to play, pause, or skip your music and it allows you to answer and end calls. It functions with any pair of headsets that have a button control. This is what I'm currently using and it works great. The app is only $2. 25 and there is a trial version you can test out before you purchase it. But of course the paid version functions better than the trial.
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Search for Headset Button Controller on the market...
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Hey, thanks for the suggestion. The app didn't work w/ one pair of headphones (Skullcandy 50/50) I own, but seems to work w/ the other (some other super cheap Skullcandy). At least for pause/resume (the working cheap pair doesn't have volume control integrated). Worth the $2.50 considering how much I drop on a set of headphones. Much obliged.
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Hey, thanks for the suggestion. The app didn't work w/ one pair of headphones (Skullcandy 50/50) I own, but seems to work w/ the other (some other super cheap Skullcandy). At least for pause/resume (the working cheap pair doesn't have volume control integrated). Worth the $2.50 considering how much I drop on a set of headphones. Much obliged.
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Glad I could help
Someone else suggested the Sony MW600 and they rock!
There's a bit of a delay when using the buttons, but the sound quality is perfect! Almost like actually plugging in your headphones.
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I never liked using wired headphones to any mobile gadgets, especially the Atrix. Makes me feel like every other iPhone users out there. I like to rock my music and answer calls wirelessly and with style.
Introducing my SonyEricsson MW600 stereo headset:
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Bluetooth A2DP. Call display w/ Mic. Media functions: Stereo w. Play/Pause/Fast/Rewind & built in FM Radio.
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http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mw600?cc=gb&lc=en#view=features_specifications
Just a note: This dont work on any iPhone. The media functionality is disabled. Not that we care.
W3BSurfer said:
I never liked using wired headphones to any mobile gadgets, especially the Atrix. Makes me feel like every other iPhone users out there. I like to rock my music and answer my call or ignore using the call display with style.
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I guess to everyone is their own...I never cared much about how I look or what other think about me using wired headphones. If wireless headphones can be used none-stop for 12-15 hours on my bicycle trips without need carry extra batteries then sure, I'd use them, but I doubt there are any or even close to that exists yet.
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Your "wireless" headphones don't look too "wireless" to me...what's the point?
I guess alot would rather stick their atrix in their jeans and have a 20 feet wire dangling around the waist area. Thats rather ridiculous looking.
12-15hrs? are you trying to scale mount everest by biking uphill? LOL!
I bike quite alot too especially the summer weather here and having a wire sticking out either casual biking or terrain biking spells disaster. Also, for safety's sake, did u not read anything about bike safety? u shouldnt be biking while having ur headset on. You should be paying attention. I dont think u should be biking then. No such thing as accident bud.....
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Rather than a 20feet wire dangling around your neck. Only wonder woman I know carries a lasso. ROFL!!!
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I guess to everyone is their own...I never cared much about how I look or what other think about me using wired headphones. If wireless headphones can be used none-stop for 12-15 hours on my bicycle trips without need carry extra batteries then sure, I'd use them, but I doubt there are any or even close to that exists yet.
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Your "wireless" headphones don't look too "wireless" to me...what's the point?
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That Sony adapter is interesting. Especially in that you can use it w/ any standard set of headphones. So does it pause/resume and answer calls fine w/ the Atrix? Does it depend on the app? I tend to use DoubleTwist, so that where I'd want the button control to work.
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That Sony adapter is interesting. Especially in that you can use it w/ any standard set of headphones. So does it pause/resume and answer calls fine w/ the Atrix? Does it depend on the app? I tend to use DoubleTwist, so that where I'd want the button control to work.
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It works with poweramp just fine... idk about doubletwist, but ill see if I can test it sometime
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So does the s4i work with the atrix in terms of remote?
The audio DSP used in our Note's is the Yamaha YDA-165. While this is one of Yamaha's first offerings in the low power audio codec chip market, it's not a very good one. Wolfson chips have generally been said to beat it hands down, and if you examine a comparison Anandtech did between it's possible sister chip (or a really close relative) and the iPad 2's Cirrus chip, you can see why.
It has been discussed that there is a slight hiss when listening to headphones during moments when nothing is being played (in-between songs, for example). I'm here to see if we can discover exactly why this is and maybe uncover some solutions. I've attached the PDF of the YDA-165's cut sheet to this post so everyone can skim through it.
I have noticed that there is a noise gate on chip, however, it's only for use with the speaker if you'll look at the block diagram.
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Here is my DMESG if anyone wants to see it: http://pastebin.com/f4WnJC7j
When I get more time, I'll fill this post up with some more observations about the codec.
The HP amp is nearly maxed out, power-wise. According to DMESG, it's being supplied with 2.6V out of a possible max optimal range of 2.86V. I don't know how to determine the HP amps' dB output though (It's probably set at 0 by default). The attenuator for the HP amp may be locked to a specific range by Sammy, although it's capable of (-36dB)-(0dB), which I assume it is probably also set at by default. If we can get the HP amp increased to 3dB, we'd be able to get more power out of the amplifier, utilizing the digital signal gain in the DAC less. Analog amplification as opposed to digital amplification always results in cleaner audio.
The minimum headphone impedance for the codec is 12.8 ohms.
Comparing the amplifiers SNR to both Wolfson and Cirrus shows that it actually produces less noise than both of the aforementioned manufacturers. This leads me to believe it most likely is either a crappy DAC to blame or simply bad shielding.
Another thing to take note, the YDA-165 in our Notes does not have the same model number as the one found in the GS2, which is YMU823. With no documentation on the YMU823, there's no way to know how different or similar the components inside are to the YDA-165.
No attachments or poll. But yes, I do have the hiss.
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No attachments or poll. But yes, I do have the hiss.
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How can I tell if it is more than 16 ohms or not?
tenderchkn said:
How can I tell if it is more than 16 ohms or not?
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Usually listed on the package. What model do you have?
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Usually listed on the package. What model do you have?
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I have the AT&T I717.
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I have the AT&T I717.
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I meant the model of your headphones or in-ears, sorry.
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No worries - was slightly confused.
I have a pair of Bose QC2's, let me check the package.
EDIT: I can't find any reference to ohms in the manual or specs. But I did discover something interesting. On my headphones, there is a detachable audio cable with the "HI" and "LO" setting for "LEVEL". If I switch to "LO", obviously the volume decreases, but I also no longer hear a hiss. My guess is that the signal doesn't get amplified enough to hear the hiss. Anyway, which "Yes" option should I pick?
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No worries - was slightly confused.
I have a pair of Bose QC2's, let me check the package.
EDIT: I can't find any reference to ohms in the manual or specs. But I did discover something interesting. On my headphones, there is a detachable audio cable with the "HI" and "LO" setting for "LEVEL". If I switch to "LO", obviously the volume decreases, but I also no longer hear a hiss. My guess is that the signal doesn't get amplified enough to hear the hiss. Anyway, which "Yes" option should I pick?
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I did some Googling, and it appears Bose doesn't do a very good job of listing product specs ANYWHERE.
The detachable audio "cable" most likely contains an in-line resistor and actually increases the resistance of the line to well over 16 ohms. I think we're on to something here. Don't select anything in the poll since, well, we have no idea what ohm ratings there is with those Bose QC2s.
Subscribed....you might also post in the skyrocket and tmobile galaxy s2 they have the issue too
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I did some Googling, and it appears Bose doesn't do a very good job of listing product specs ANYWHERE.
The detachable audio "cable" most likely contains an in-line resistor and actually increases the resistance of the line to well over 16 ohms. I think we're on to something here. Don't select anything in the poll since, well, we have no idea what ohm ratings there is with those Bose QC2s.
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Obviously, I don't know much about the nitty gritty technical stuff, but it seems like additional resistance would effectively reduce or remove the hiss? Would this be similar to doing noise removal processing on an audio file?
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Obviously, I don't know much about the nitty gritty technical stuff, but it seems like additional resistance would effectively reduce or remove the hiss? Would this be similar to doing noise removal processing on an audio file?
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It's in how an amplifier works, really. Electrical equipment is more efficient when it uses more power. When you increase the resistance, you're effectively increasing the amount of power it takes for the amp to drive your headphones.
I think introducing more resistance would probably work (I'll try it tonight), but would be nice to completely understand how this sound chip is used in this device and maybe someone can whip up an app to really control the amp so people do not need to be carrying around extra equipment! (run on sentence but I'm not gonna edit it!)
30ohm W3s here. Definite hiss. When it is playing system sounds, you can very clearly hear when the output is turned on and off. Quite annoying, but the rest of the phone is worth it. FWIW, just for comparison sake, I didn't have any noticeable hiss like this (that I remember) with the iphone 4.
This is probably the wrong thread, but does anyone know if the drivers are built in for a USB DAC? I could always use mine I guess, but haven't even looked into it yet.
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30ohm W3s here. Definite hiss. When it is playing system sounds, you can very clearly hear when the output is turned on and off. Quite annoying, but the rest of the phone is worth it. FWIW, just for comparison sake, I didn't have any noticeable hiss like this (that I remember) with the iphone 4.
This is probably the wrong thread, but does anyone know if the drivers are built in for a USB DAC? I could always use mine I guess, but haven't even looked into it yet.
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It's beginning to seem like it's simply a lack of adequate shielding that's giving us this noise issue. It could also very well be the headphone amp too, but until we're able to manually control its output, there's no way to know for sure.
As far as the drivers go, I highly doubt Sammy included them in the stock rom. You'd have more luck on an AOSP build.
Found the inline attenuator and it works well but I have to turn the volume way high now. Hope I don't accidentally blast my ears if I forget to use the attenuator!
I've got a pair of SHURE SE110's that are rated at 27 Ohm and I definitely have a hiss. I've owned them for a good 4+ years and have never experienced a hiss on any sort of player until the Note. I've got some Thinksound Ms01's coming tomorrow that are rated at 16 Ohm. After I burn them in I will give them a listen and see if they hiss as well.
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I've got a pair of SHURE SE110's that are rated at 27 Ohm and I definitely have a hiss. I've owned them for a good 4+ years and have never experienced a hiss on any sort of player until the Note. I've got some Thinksound Ms01's coming tomorrow that are rated at 16 Ohm. After I burn them in I will give them a listen and see if they hiss as well.
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Interesting, however, without sensitivity specifications, the results would be moot. It appears ohms may be related, but I would need to completely throw driver sensitivity out of the equation.
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Interesting, however, without sensitivity specifications, the results would be moot. It appears ohms may be related, but I would need to completely throw driver sensitivity out of the equation.
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SHURE SE110 (Hiss) -
113 dB
27 Ohm
22 Hz-17.5 kHz
Thinksound Ms01 (TBD) -
93 dB
16 Ohm
18 Hz-20 kHz
No hiss with Klispch S4A's.
Hi,
If you are like me, you like to have more than one accessory "in case of".
Huawei USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter is good and I search long time to find something not too expensive and that will do the same job.
I found this article: https://9to5google.com/2018/11/01/hands-on-apple-usb-c-headphone/ with this information:
"The new Apple USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter, though, seems to work flawlessly with essentially every device I’ve tried it with so far.
For Google’s Pixel devices, it works without a hitch. Simply plug it in and hit play and your tunes are good to go. The same applied for the Huawei P20 Pro and Essential Phone which I also tested out."
So I went to Apple store to buy one ($10 CAD, $9 USD, really not expensive) and it works really great.
Just a little pop-up about "using not certified adapter" but nothing wrong about music song during my test.
I thought it was a good news to share
Here are the link (valid in 2018 December):
USA Apple Store: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MU7E2AM/A/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapter?fnode=91
Canadian Apple Store: https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/MU7E2AM/A/usb-c-to-35mm-headphone-jack-adapter?fnode=91
The Huawei adapter cost 5€ on Amazon, it won't get cheaper than that.
Saison2018 said:
Hi,
If you are like me, you like to have more than one accessory "in case of".
Huawei USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter is good and I search long time to find something not too expensive and that will do the same job.
I found this article: https://9to5google.com/2018/11/01/hands-on-apple-usb-c-headphone/ with this information:
"The new Apple USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter, though, seems to work flawlessly with essentially every device I’ve tried it with so far.
For Google’s Pixel devices, it works without a hitch. Simply plug it in and hit play and your tunes are good to go. The same applied for the Huawei P20 Pro and Essential Phone which I also tested out."
So I went to Apple store to buy one ($10 CAD, $9 USD, really not expensive) and it works really great.
Just a little pop-up about "using not certified adapter" but nothing wrong about music song during my test.
I thought it was a good news to share
Here are the link (valid in 2018 December):
USA Apple Store: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MU7E2AM/A/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapter?fnode=91
Canadian Apple Store: https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/MU7E2AM/A/usb-c-to-35mm-headphone-jack-adapter?fnode=91
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Is the apple adapter any louder than the crappy huawei one? I'm trying to find a decent/louder adapter as the huawei is not that great in this aspect.
Cheers and happy new year!
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thanito said:
Is the apple adapter any louder than the crappy huawei one? I'm trying to find a decent/louder adapter as the huawei is not that great in this aspect.
Cheers and happy new year!
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No difference for me with the earbuds I use from a long time (and happy with it).
Sound seems the same at equal sound level.
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No difference for me with the earbuds I use from a long time (and happy with it).
Sound seems the same at equal sound level.
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Do you have any other earbud that you could test? I would appreciate it if you could check and confirm that their output is the same, as if it is there is no reason to buy another adapter.
My big problem is that when I am snowboarding I am using a helmet with earphone integration and since I switched phones and bought the P20 pro I notice a HUGE downgrade in volume, which is really noticeable when we are talking abt helmet earphones and not earbuds. The max volume must have gone to maybe half of the output of my previous HTC phone with 3.5mm jack.
Thanks!
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thanito said:
Do you have any other earbud that you could test? I would appreciate it if you could check and confirm that their output is the same, as if it is there is no reason to buy another adapter.
My big problem is that when I am snowboarding I am using a helmet with earphone integration and since I switched phones and bought the P20 pro I notice a HUGE downgrade in volume, which is really noticeable when we are talking abt helmet earphones and not earbuds. The max volume must have gone to maybe half of the output of my previous HTC phone with 3.5mm jack.
Thanks!
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I will do with other earbuds and one full headset I have and I will report you back shortly
Following
I can confirm there is a quality issue but not on adapter, on headset.
I made a test in a quiet room, using same software (Deezer), same song and same volume.
My usual earbuds were ok, also an old Samsung earbuds (surprisingly). But my cheap full headset was horrible : bad sound and not as strong as full volume compare to others.
I switched from Huawei and Apple adapter many times to confirm.
Hope this will help.
Please keep in mind that was done without material, only my personal feeling (but difference was huge)
Happy new year everyone
Saison2018 said:
I can confirm there is a quality issue but not on adapter, on headset.
I made a test in a quiet room, using same software (Deezer), same song and same volume.
My usual earbuds were ok, also an old Samsung earbuds (surprisingly). But my cheap full headset was horrible : bad sound and not as strong as full volume compare to others.
I switched from Huawei and Apple adapter many times to confirm.
Hope this will help.
Please keep in mind that was done without material, only my personal feeling (but difference was huge)
Happy new year everyone
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Thanks for your time spent to do the test mate!
So no any noticeable difference between the two adaptors huh? Only between some headsets I guess.
Thanks again and happy new year [emoji16]
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I've just bought this 1. Volume is louder but I seem to have lost the use of controls via headset buttons, skip etc. I can play and pause still. Does anyone know if there's a setting I need to change or do I just have to put up with pulling phone out of pocket everytime I want to skip a track?
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I've just bought this 1. Volume is louder but I seem to have lost the use of controls via headset buttons, skip etc. I can play and pause still. Does anyone know if there's a setting I need to change or do I just have to put up with pulling phone out of pocket everytime I want to skip a track? View attachment 4691942
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Is it a lot louder?
Can't you skip a song by double clicking the center button?
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Is it a lot louder?
Can't you skip a song by double clicking the center button?
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I'd say loud enough to cut out the outside noise I was getting.
With the adapter provided with the phone I could do the double click, this new dac one just pauses and plays
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I'd say loud enough to cut out the outside noise I was getting.
With the adapter provided with the phone I could do the double click, this new dac one just pauses and plays
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Have you tried another pair of earphones?
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Have you tried another pair of earphones?
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Yeah still the same, I'll just have to put up with it
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Been following this for a little bit and I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the audio path for the P20Pro. Looking for backup option and I'm settling on the apple usb-c to 3.5mm as a quick and cheap replacement for the huawei dongle as for canada, theres plenty of Apple and best buy stores around.
Thanks Saison for testing the dongles. My questions is that if the Apple dongle has a built-in DAC, does the P20Pro know to use the dongle for digital-analog conversion vs trying to push its own analog audio for 'pass-thru'?
Thanks!
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Been following this for a little bit and I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the audio path for the P20Pro. Looking for backup option and I'm settling on the apple usb-c to 3.5mm as a quick and cheap replacement for the huawei dongle as for canada, theres plenty of Apple and best buy stores around.
Thanks Saison for testing the dongles. My questions is that if the Apple dongle has a built-in DAC, does the P20Pro know to use the dongle for digital-analog conversion vs trying to push its own analog audio for 'pass-thru'?
Thanks!
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Well, one person in this topic said that when he plugged the apple adapter in the phone that he got a msg saying it isn't a supported adapter but it worked. So my guess is that its just pass-tru
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Lots of people talking about this dongle: Venture Elektronica Odyssey Type-C tot 3.5mm DAC dongle and its sold out due to high demand and no restock for months since they doing a dongle upgrade so guess ill wait for that one.
I also use the apple one, it's cheap ($10), but volume seems a bit low.
One added bonus, it works with apple-compatible cables with mic/volume/prev/next controls! At least it works with the Bose QC 25, iOS version.
The stock adapter didn't work so well for me, it only worked in one direction and the sound quality seemed pretty bad.
adibadi said:
I also use the apple one, it's cheap ($10), but volume seems a bit low.
One added bonus, it works with apple-compatible cables with mic/volume/prev/next controls! At least it works with the Bose QC 25, iOS version.
The stock adapter didn't work so well for me, it only worked in one direction and the sound quality seemed pretty bad.
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The volume output in the apple one is lower than the huawei factory one?
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The volume output in the apple one is lower than the huawei factory one?
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Hmmm just tested again, and yes, apple one is quieter. Ok that's annoying!
I had my huawei adaptor failing at me the first day of my snow trip a few days ago (that was a bummer[emoji35]). Now I will try to find the Google adapter which is supposed to work much better and is supposed to be much louder but it is not sold in my country, so my bets were for the apple one.
The bad thing is that even the huawei one was a lot quieter than my previous phones, so I guess the apple one is a no go..
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I was really hoping to get at least normal headphones output from poco x3, its a poco device, no? I've used poco f1 for 2 years now, sound output from 3.5mm jack was nice and loud (at least), im using it with blon-03 and sound is, man, i cant listen to it more than a few minutes (ear fatigue is horrible). Can't believe that anyone didn't noticed this BIG issue.. cmon i havent heard such a bad sound EVER. Tried to use xiaomi's headphone presets, equalizer, sound calibration.. not even close .. after a few days (after update) tried it once more, aaand flashback, sound is simply said non usable. NO BASS, MIDS PAINFULLY SHARP, EAR PIERCING HIGHS.
im deeply disappointed, if this ENORMOUS issue is due low quality 3.5mm jack... not just software (writing this with fisical PAIN in my ears)
Nah its not that bad need some Viper to boost it and schould be fine ofc depends on what headphones you use maybe u need some external amp and dac idk
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Nah its not that bad need some Viper to boost it and schould be fine ofc depends on what headphones you use maybe u need some external amp and dac idk
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as i said.. on poco f1 i didn't expected hi quality dac, and i was satisfied with sound quality and loudness, i use blon 03 earbuds (iem) and there's no bass.. and overall quality is not good... ill try some apps, maybe it will help
Might be a dumb suggestion, but make sure you're actually plugging in the jack all the way in. I've heard complaints before on other phones, and the reason was because the last 0.5mm was not pushed in. Often times cases can block the full engagement of the jack depending on the design.
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Might be a dumb suggestion, but make sure you're actually plugging in the jack all the way in. I've heard complaints before on other phones, and the reason was because the last 0.5mm was not pushed in. Often times cases can block the full engagement of the jack depending on the design.
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tried it immediately when i heard the deference between poco f1 and this one (poco x3)..tried to install some app (beats).. nothing.Dont get me wrong, I'm not picky, just sound quality isnt there..quality is LOW, tried another pair (also iem quality) of earbuds and they sound BAD.
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tried it immediately when i heard the deference between poco f1 and this one (poco x3)..tried to install some app (beats).. nothing.Dont get me wrong, I'm not picky, just sound quality isnt there..quality is LOW, tried another pair (also iem quality) of earbuds and they sound BAD.
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try other headphones on my KZ ZS10 its not the best but decent do the sound volume setup and try mi headphones preset works for me plus eq on your taste
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try other headphones on my KZ ZS10 its not the best but decent do the sound volume setup and try mi headphones preset works for me plus eq on your taste
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tried it all... all presets, al EQ,.. i dont know., must wait update..
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tried it all... all presets, al EQ,.. i dont know., must wait update..
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Didn't Xiaomi specify that the POCO X3 was HI-Res Audio certified?
I'm having doubts as to whether I should buy this phone. I want that sweet 24-bit/192kHz audio!
I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive, but this would be one of the first things I check. That said, there is a small possibility that your jack may be defective, or something else going on in the background. I've had my fair share of cheap crappy mp3 players in the past and the worst sounding DAC I've ever experienced was still passable to 99% of the general public.
This review of the Poco X3 tested the frequency response from the DAC and it looks perfectly fine.
https://www.laurentwillen.be/en/test-reviews/poco-x3-test-review-camera-photo/
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I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive, but this would be one of the first things I check. That said, there is a small possibility that your jack may be defective, or something else going on in the background. I've had my fair share of cheap crappy mp3 players in the past and the worst sounding DAC I've ever experienced was still passable to 99% of the general public.
This review of the Poco X3 tested the frequency response from the DAC and it looks perfectly fine.
https://www.laurentwillen.be/en/test-reviews/poco-x3-test-review-camera-photo/
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it doesn't sound as defective, just bad.. in a comparison to poco f1's...
Can anyone try to measure with RMAA with proper sound card?
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Can anyone try to measure with RMAA with proper sound card?
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I dont know what this person tested with, but these are the usual graphs/information people are looking for.
https://www.laurentwillen.be/en/test-reviews/poco-x3-test-review-camera-photo/#local-15
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it doesn't sound as defective, just bad.. in a comparison to poco f1's...
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What you described in the opening post certainly sounds as defective. The typical deviation in phone DAC quality is usually very subtle and only noticed by a very small subset of people with high end headphones. There is definitely something wrong if you are getting "NO BASS" and ear piercing highs.
Is anyone else experiencing the same?
That sounds like a defective unit, either that or you're VERY picky.
I don't know with other people but for me the sound quality is good with punchy bass, mid is quite good I can hear it clearly and high is good and details. Overall I'm really satisfied with the sound quality :good:
Can someone confirm the audio output quality via the jack by comparing with other devices.
Would really help me to make my buying decision ;/
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I dont know what this person tested with, but these are the usual graphs/information people are looking for.
https://www.laurentwillen.be/en/test-reviews/poco-x3-test-review-camera-photo/#local-15
What you described in the opening post certainly sounds as defective. The typical deviation in phone DAC quality is usually very subtle and only noticed by a very small subset of people with high end headphones. There is definitely something wrong if you are getting "NO BASS" and ear piercing highs.
Is anyone else experiencing the same?
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one thing happend... i was reading your reply, and i had to try it again, blow the 3.5mm just to idk, do something... played music again, and i was like WHAT,? theres bass... i can't believe it.. sound for some reason got better.. i cant understand it. Day Before i also checked that the plug was properly inserted and it was,.. doesn't matter, its working ok now.
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one thing happend... i was reading your reply, and i had to try it again, blow the 3.5mm just to idk, do something... played music again, and i was like WHAT,? theres bass... i can't believe it.. sound for some reason got better.. i cant understand it. Day Before i also checked that the plug was properly inserted and it was,.. doesn't matter, its working ok now.
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The phone was straight from the production line jack as a part was bring to it form another supplier, yes there can be some **** in it sometimes ;P nobody is perfect :fingers-crossed: glad its working better
@Rezio compared with oneplus3 its the same, played some flacs with poweramp
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The phone was straight from the production line jack as a part was bring to it form another supplier, yes there can be some **** in it sometimes ;P nobody is perfect :fingers-crossed: glad its working better
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im just glad its not broken.. that would be shame ,.. so we can close the thread!
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@Rezio compared with oneplus3 its the same, played some flacs with poweramp
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Thanks man , will definitely consider buying it now :highfive:
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change the samsung equaliser to these settings for real good bass! Really makes a difference!! Also the adapt sound 60+ boosts all frequencies and makes everything way more louder, complete difference on ear buds 2 pro, and obs change ear buds themselves to bass, didn't realise how much samsung built in equaliser can make such a change
Try to test your hearing.... It makes change also...
I'm on dynamic eq and it's the best of both worlds.
Dear lord that is an aggressive v-Curve (plus bass boost?!) for earbuds. I love bass but I'm imaging that sounding like the two 1200w RMS subwoofers which I enjoy in my car but not so much in headphones.
Are you a bass head or the the Bud2 Pros that lacking in bass?
SyCoREAPER said:
Dear lord that is an aggressive v-Curve (plus bass boost?!) for earbuds. I love bass but I'm imaging that sounding like the two 1200w RMS subwoofers which I enjoy in my car but not so much in headphones.
Are you a bass head or the the Bud2 Pros that lacking in bass?
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In my experience using the regular buds2 not pro, they really lack bass, especially with active noise cancelling turned off
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In my experience using the regular buds2 not pro, they really lack bass, especially with active noise cancelling turned off
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I'd suggest investing in Comply foam tips for this tws and changing the eq to dynamic. This is what worked for me both in the noise cancellation and sound departments.
amirage said:
I'd suggest investing in Comply foam tips for this tws and changing the eq to dynamic. This is what worked for me both in the noise cancellation and sound departments.
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I'll give that a test
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Dear lord that is an aggressive v-Curve (plus bass boost?!) for earbuds. I love bass but I'm imaging that sounding like the two 1200w RMS subwoofers which I enjoy in my car but not so much in headphones.
Are you a bass head or the the Bud2 Pros that lacking in bass?
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I no lol but the buds do lack bass! That curve really does give best bass boost, we'll for me anyways but then when a song comes on that doesn't have much bass it's pretty poor lol, I canny win
I guess this comes to personal preference, but buds2 pro really don't lack bass IMO.
The bass is balanced and spatial, really sounds like you are in a room with a great woofer active.
I use dynamic preset and it's really good both in terms of bass and other frequencies.
Well it depends a lot on what to listen. On some music there's no perceivable difference, but on other there's very obvious difference if noise canceling or ambient mode is on vs neither one is on - with some music one can notice that enabling noise canceling or ambient mode brings out some of most lower frequencies that are much more subdued when neither of modes is enabled.
It was even more pronounced on first generation Buds Pro, but it is still there with Buds 2 Pro.
It is reasonable to assume that some of music even does not have these frequencies present to be able to notice that.
Wow lots of responses in the meantime.
So I just got the regular Buds2's an hour ago and am on Normal Preset. Unless they are drastically different from the 2Pro's, I think your ears might be broken (joking).
The bass is a massive step up from the Buds+ and even more so than what I'm used to. My primary cans are neutral AF, so maybe just to me there's a lot of bass.
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Wow lots of responses in the meantime.
So I just got the regular Buds2's on Normal Preset. Unless they are drastically different from the 2Pro's, I think your ears might be broken (joking).
The bass is a massive step up from the Buds+ and even more so than what I'm used to. My primary cans are neutral AF, so maybe just to me there's a lot of bass.
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That V curve is way too aggressive, I think.
This is the equalizer curve I use with Poweramp for my Buds+, plenty of bass like this. Some of the curves I use are less aggressive depending on the music.
The last Buds+ firmware update screwed up the sound bad and trashed that pair (I have several pairs). Do Not update their firmware if you have Buds+. The factory loaded version works fine.
Rolling back a firmware update is a real pain with these...
According to sound guys, what we are hearing should be similar, just offset but a bit but bass is stronger on the 2 Pros. Anyway, I know we can't really compare the 2's to 2 Pros but my experience in some initial testing:
Bass - Further Testing, the bass on Normal to me is impressive for earbuds, there is at least decent perceived bass extension (using my old favorite from 15 years ago (Bass 305) to test pure bass.
EDM-Style - Pendulum sounds perfect on Normal to me also (a bit heavy maybe but again, not used to rumbly bass on headphones)
Rock/Orchestral :
VonLichten We will Rock You - Tiny Bit off
Trans-Siberian Orchestra Wizards of Winter - Interesting one, parts sound incredible, others wrong.
Old School Rock:
Rolling Stones Gimme Shelter - A little flat.
Kansas - Wayward Son, also a bit flat.
Rap: Not something I listen to but (yes laugh, I'm old AF)
Coolio – Gangsta's Paradise sounds right.
Pop/Rock:
Phil Collins sounds off, very off.
Michael Jackson sounds right but maybe just a tiny bit lacking in bass.
Kenny Loggins is off, very harsh.
Harold Faltermyer is a bit off but has a fun sound.
(Using FLACs)
Others (NOT FLAC, not sure how objective I can be, compressed music sounds different)
MMPR - harsh but correct
Ducktales - actually sounds ok
Berlin Orchestra/Scorpions - Hurricane 2000, not bad
MASH (TV) - poop
@blackhawk
I wasn't looking for this but rather stumbled across it during a Google search. Is this what you were talking about in regards to the update to the Plus'?
Your Post Here?
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According to sound guys, what we are hearing should be similar, just offset but a bit but bass is stronger on the 2 Pros. Anyway, I know we can't really compare the 2's to 2 Pros but my experience in some initial testing:
Bass - Further Testing, the bass on Normal to me is impressive for earbuds, there is at least decent perceived bass extension (using my old favorite from 15 years ago (Bass 305) to test pure bass.
EDM-Style - Pendulum sounds perfect on Normal to me also (a bit heavy maybe but again, not used to rumbly bass on headphones)
Rock/Orchestral :
VonLichten We will Rock You - Tiny Bit off
Trans-Siberian Orchestra Wizards of Winter - Interesting one, parts sound incredible, others wrong.
Old School Rock:
Rolling Stones Gimme Shelter - A little flat.
Kansas - Wayward Son, also a bit flat.
Rap: Not something I listen to but (yes laugh, I'm old AF)
Coolio – Gangsta's Paradise sounds right.
Pop/Rock:
Phil Collins sounds off, very off.
Michael Jackson sounds right but maybe just a tiny bit lacking in bass.
Kenny Loggins is off, very harsh.
Harold Faltermyer is a bit off but has a fun sound.
(Using FLACs)
Others (NOT FLAC, not sure how objective I can be, compressed music sounds different)
MMPR - harsh but correct
Ducktales - actually sounds ok
Berlin Orchestra/Scorpions - Hurricane 2000, not bad
MASH (TV) - poop
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One little thing to notice for everybody - for being able to adequately compare the experience we should note if Atmos is on or off while testing, because it can change some music quite noticeably (and not for better sometimes).
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@blackhawk
I wasn't looking for this but rather stumbled across it during a Google search. Is this what you were talking about in regards to the update to the Plus'?
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No that's the Wearables app update* bs. This is much worse as it's firmware flash for the Buds+ hardware, post 41.
I still need to deal with the pair that the firmware flash screwed up. See if Samsung put out a fix for it. Just it. My other pairs will never be flash upgraded... grrrrr.
* this is what the older Buds Wearable version looks like. Much more usable...
I have it off. Buds+ it sometimes sounded better, so far everything sounds awful with the 2's with Atmos
Edit: ^opinion
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I have it off. Buds+ it sometimes sounded better, so far everything sounds awful with the 2's with Atmos
Edit: ^opinion
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Try dialing it in with Poweramp if you use that.
It's still the best stand alone music player but it won't play vids (will be play the audio). It's complicated to first set up, but works like a charm once configured.
Group folder/album folders/songs
Settings and playlists can be completely backed up... tested, fully recreatable in a minute or two.
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Try dialing it in with Poweramp if you use that.
It's still the best stand alone music player but it won't play vids (will be play the audio). It's complicated to first set up, but works like a charm once configured.
Group folder/album folders/songs
Settings and playlists can be completely backed up... tested, fully recreatable in a minute or two.
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Poweramp... Not going to get into the detail on my history there but noticed a few months back that a standalone EQ was finally created. Well, it doesn't work correctly. Most apps that I use won't EQ.
I (occasionally) use Wavelet which has a 'Legacy Mode' that works with every app.
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Poweramp... Not going to get into the detail on my history there but noticed a few months back that a standalone EQ was finally created. Well, it doesn't work correctly. Most apps that I use won't EQ.
I (occasionally) use Wavelet which has a 'Legacy Mode' that works with every app.
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Yeap. Not really a big issue with the Buds+ for me. They sound good with movies, etc. For music though I default to Poweramp as a player.
Android has always been a pain in this respect.
Because of all this and the lack of wings to stabilize the Buds2 I decided to stay with the Buds+. I also like noise isolation better than losing that for noise cancelation. The battery runtime longevity is another issue with the Buds2.