Hey all,
Some of you might know me from the Titan or Wizard forum, but I am joining the Raphael family today (as long as it shipped!) and have a couple of questions regarding this forum.
I should have my Sprint Touch Pro waiting on me when I get home, and will be aching to flash it before the weekend. I think I've literally flashed my Titan several hundred times, so much so that I've become obsessed by it at times.
My question, and the reason for starting this thread, is to ask about compatibility between the GSM versions and the CDMA version(s) of the Raphael.
I would ASSUME that as long as the ROM doesn't include a different radio, that it 'should' be compatible with either version? Is that assumption correct? I don't want to brick my TP right out of the gate. Basically, since the Titan didn't have a CDMA version of the forum since it was all CDMA, I want to ensure I'm understanding my boundaries venturing outside of the CDMA subforum. Thanks in advance to all that reply!
Please understand a few things when responding:
1. I am not a noob
2. I only flash through the SD method (should tell you I'm familiar with the process of flashing, so please no "you have to unlock your phone first" responses)
3. This is a great community and I can't wait to contribute!
Hello mate. As far as I know it is not possible to flash gsm roms to the cdma diamond. That is why there is a cdma version of the forum.
But again am not too sure. I am in UK with the gsm version but I am curious to find out about this too.
Absolutely do NOT flash a GSM rom on your CDMA device, or visa versa. That being said, at least for the GSM roms they are not carrier specific. I've never owned a CDMA device so i couldn't tell you, but there's a specific thread for those devices.
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From what I heard, getting the right radio is trial and error.
Was wondering if anyone knew which gave best reception?
My phone currently has 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18 and my reception is just OKAYish.
Also, you need to root to install Radios, correct?
Can we use Telus 850/1900 MHz Radio?
With our Heros?
I would like to "gain" 3G in US
Try using the latest one, 63.18.55.06IH_6.35.08.22.
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Try using the latest one, 63.18.55.06IH_6.35.08.22.
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this one arouses a few questions for me:
which is the latest, 63.18.55.06IH_6.35.08.22 or 63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22? the IU one is the last to be available as update.zip, can i download the IH version somewhere in update.zip format?
or are we talking about cdma radio versions here?
I think the question here is do you have a gsm hero or a cdma hero, because I don't think you can flash a gsm radio onto a cdma hero. but seeing as you have the EU radio on it I'm going to assume a gsm hero.
I have the 63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22, and it seems to serve me well, but then again i'm in england, you're best option is to flash one of them, test it for a day, flash another and test until you've tested them all, and then pick from whichever gave you the best service. Its a long task, but its the thorough option.
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this one arouses a few questions for me:
which is the latest, 63.18.55.06IH_6.35.08.22 or 63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22? the IU one is the last to be available as update.zip, can i download the IH version somewhere in update.zip format?
or are we talking about cdma radio versions here?
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Well, maybe I should been more clear. The IH and IU are the same rom. It can also present itself as IW. I'm not sure what the difference means, I presume it's based on the hardware (which bands/frequencies and such that is used in your particular hardware).
If you look inside the radio image you can find all the strings mentioned.
63.18.55.06IW
63.18.55.06IH
63.18.55.06IU
So I guess the 63.18.55.06I is the version (combined with the numbers after it) and the W/H/U is depending on your particular phones hardware.
The same thing is true for the other versions aswell (at least on my phone).
Short version: I use IU version (as it's named here on xda, maybe it should just be named 'I'), it presents itself as IH on my Nordic Hero.
thx for the clarification, packetlss.
My brother is in Germany and I helped him root his phone about 7-8 months ago I went to prison and he is still on Modaco's rom 1.5 I need to know if their are new and improved radio's/spl for his phone before I talk him through updating to a new rom... I searched but I'm unclear to which radio version is best for his phone since their are like 10 versions of the HTC hero over there in Europe... thanks guys his current baseband is 63.18.55.06u_6.35.04.25
Moved to Q&A as not Development
Assuming he hasn't got a sprint hero, the latest one is in my sig.
sorry it was late I thought I was in the Q&A... but thank you. So their is no specific radio for each country/service provider? I just wanna make sure before walking him through it with his phone... I have the mytouch US. and have been messing with the phone since I first got it... and the procedure for him doesnt matter if I have him flash the radio at any time no specific order and dont have to worry about the spl either do I? thanks truly appreciate the help
Not region specific at all. The only service provider that is different is the Sprint Hero's in the US.
I wouldn't recommend flashing a new rom and a radio without a reboot - other than that flash the radio on any rom and it will stick across any future rom's.
Don't bother with SPL changes. They aren't necessary.
awesome that is all I needed to know I greatly appreciate the help I'll report back and give you another thanks
Greetings,
Ive lurked on xda for years without ever posting. All problems are solvable with a little research and the help of our mutual friend google
Im on my 4th HTC device, now a OneX+ that was brought into Dubai from Taiwan. Having successfully rooted and rommed all my phones and tablets, I kinda jumped the gun and started mucking around with my phone a bit early, using the rootboot early on.
I attained SU properly, but I had the same problems as others that in HBOOT, the radio was "unknown". Unfortunately I didnt write down the original radio settings, so im not entirely sure what my device is.
Now with the latest CWM, I have a working radio, CWM and AndroRevolution 3.0 working brilliantly. Radio is being reported again as the EU version of .16
However what I wanted to know are the following questions:
1) Just a bit of confirmation; the boot.img dictates the radio, correct?
2) If yes, then is it possible to flash a different radio than the original? If no, then does this mean since my radio is confirmed and everything is working, my current radio _IS_ the correct one?
3) My region and provider has LTE support and my provider says I only need to enable it on my phone. However using the dialcode to access test settings and change through the modes, it keeps switching from any LTE reception back to something with WCDMA. I cannot even switch to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. It switches back within 2 seconds.
So what Im trying to ascertain here is, do I possibly have the wrong radio, and if I do is there a way to figure out what it should have been?
The other piece of the puzzle is that despite the unit is from Taiwain, the original language when i switched it on was German, which would suggest it is in fact a EU unit.....
Ive searched through many tools, apps, threads, specs, with no luck in answering the question.... Any help is greatly appreciated.
Paz
1. Boot.img is the kernel and has nothing to do with the radio
2. You can only flash different radio versions by either flashing an RUU or by S-OFF. Radio is a security protected partition. FLASHING A RADIO WILL NOT ENABLE 4G ON A NON 4G DEVICE!! The HOX+ Inrernational version is 3G only. So in answer to your question. Yes you can flash a new radio, but no you will never have 4G on an international hox+
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1. Boot.img is the kernel and has nothing to do with the radio
2. You can only flash different radio versions by either flashing an RUU or by S-OFF. Radio is a security protected partition. FLASHING A RADIO WILL NOT ENABLE 4G ON A NON 4G DEVICE!! The HOX+ Inrernational version is 3G only. So in answer to your question. Yes you can flash a new radio, but no you will never have 4G on an international hox+
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I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
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I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
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How did you get S-OFF? Do you mean an unlocked bootloader? because that's a different thing. Nand protection security flag, remains intact when unlocking bootloader. so write protected partitions like radio remain unaffected. Either way it's not a software issue. Its a hardware issue. The LTE device have different radio hardware not just software, So your device is either LTE ready or not.
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How did you get S-OFF? Do you mean an unlocked bootloader? because that's a different thing. Nand protection security flag, remains intact when unlocking bootloader. so write protected partitions like radio remain unaffected. Either way it's not a software issue. Its a hardware issue. The LTE device have different radio hardware not just software, So your device is either LTE ready or not.
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Er yes, you are not confused, i am. HBOOT is showing S-ON, so I must have been high on caffeine when I was sure I saw S-OFF at one point. However like I mentioned I was playing with the rootboot boot.imgs early on and I was pretty sure I saw S-OFF then. But incidentally that was also when the radio was "unknown" at that time.
Oh well, Im stateside for Xmas and will give my dad the international version and buy myself a new one.
Thanks for your help
p.
Paz75 said:
I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
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You're doing it so, so wrong.
A quick search of the model number reveals that it's the Endeavour C2. If you have an LTE version it would be Evitareul.
1) Wrong. Radios are flashed separately and are not packed into the boot.img.
2) It is possible but unless you are S-OFF you cannot flash one very easily.
3) The reason why is because your device does not support LTE.
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You're doing it so, so wrong.
A quick search of the model number reveals that it's the Endeavour C2. If you have an LTE version it would be Evitareul.
1) Wrong. Radios are flashed separately and are not packed into the boot.img.
2) It is possible but unless you are S-OFF you cannot flash one very easily.
3) The reason why is because your device does not support LTE.
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Yes thanks
Radios are not .img files to be flashed, they're in /system/etc
I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
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I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
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You probably want the T-Mob radio software, so you can enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. Otherwise, you will find that the AT&T radio does not give you 3G and LTE in many locations.
In order to flash another carrier's radio, you need s-off, and there is no way around that. Then you need to change the carrier ID (CID) and model ID (MID) to that of T-Mob.
At that point, you may as well RUU to a stock factory T-Mobile software image (not just the radio) and that would be recommended, is it will get you a complete T-Mobile "baseline" phone as opposed to an AT&T ROM with T-Mob radio, etc.
After running the T-Mob RUU, your phone will be "fully converted" to the T-Mob version in terms of software. Others here have converted the AT&T version for use on T-Mob. So I'll try to find one of those threads instead of trying to explain it all again.
None of these mods will change your SIM unlock. That will remain unlocked.
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388
Another point: You can update to the latest AT&T Lollipop software by RUU. And you can flash custom Lollipop ROMs after that. But neither of these will enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. So that is why I suggest "converting" the phone to T-Mob stock software instead.
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
grant523 said:
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
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Yes it's different the AT&T ruu won't give you the T-Mobile bands. And you can install custom roms if you want but I would reccomend paying the $25 to s-off and fully converting to t-mobile and either stay on stock or flash a custom t-mobile rom
grant523 said:
A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
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I think your first phrase was intended to read "flash the T-Mob RUU, then install a custom ROM".
The radio is not contained in the ROM, and flashing a ROM doesn't affect the radio in any way.
The radio is contained in what many folks here called the "firmware package" or firmware.zip; and it can be installed by flashing the RUU.
Another thing that will help you understand, is that the phone has something like 36 (or more) partitions. The ROM is just one of those. The radio is a separate partition (as bootloader, recovery, and others have their own separate partitions as well). Flashing one partition, does not effect the others. The RUU is a complete software image that flashes all the partitions to factory stock for a certain carrier version.
You can also flash the radio or firmware.zip manually (without flashing the whole RUU). But my personal recommendation would be to baseline to a fully stock T-Mobile software profile, since you are on the T-Mob network, to make sure every partition plays well together (as opposed to mixing T-Mob and AT&T software components).
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If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together?
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I wouldn't say that. Custom ROMs have their place. But a custom ROM will not open up the T-Mob bands. As mentioned, you can only do that by flashing the radio, which isn't affected by flashing the ROM.
After baselining to a T-Mob stock config as I've suggested, you can feel free to flash a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs if you like. But if would be for other reasons than the radio bands; such as performance, customization, debloating, etc..
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Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
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Basically yes. If you want to be sure a phone works fully on a certain network "out of the box", you should buy the phone that is branded for that network. Otherwise, you should always thoroughly research a phone (not branded for your carrier) before trying to use it on your network.
Luckily for you, on this device the radio bands can be changed in software using the mods I've noted above. On past devices, the band support was set in hardware, meaning where was no way to change it in software. In that case, you would really have some buyer's remorse to deal with.
Ah OK thanks for the responses! I think I'm starting to understand. I did research how an At&t m8 would work with T-MOBILE but I didn't realize i would have to go throw this whole software process to make it work! Anyhow I appreciate the help and I'll buy a Sunshine license when I get a chance. Thanks again!
You are quite welcome.
Here is a thread with more info on changing from AT&T to T-Mob software: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388#post60606278
Good luck!
General help with ROMs and Networks
Dear Members of the Forum!
This is my first post here, and I would like to ask for your help. I have an HTC One Max Sprint edition, and have some questions regarding ROMs, and network types. I would like to take this phone with me to Europe, and use it there. What are the required steps to do so?
I have read that there is a command and a tool to sim unlock these devices, however, my Android version is 4.4.2 with software version 3.02.651.8, and the utility is no longer present. I tried finding a RUU for the JB43 image, but was out of luck. But honestly, my main problem is that I am confused. What makes this phone stick to Sprint? Can I use this with a SIM card on a 2G/3G/4G network? Can I flash an international image on the device, and if so, will it unlock my device to be used with a European SIM?
I know I ask a lot of you, but can you please try to help me?
Also, if anything is out of order here with my post, please tell me, so I can be a better part of the community.
Thank you in advance