The yet to be announced Verizon touch pro has just appeared on HTC's site. It's a bit difficult to find so here is the link:
http://www.htc.com/us/product.aspx?id=76994
If it disappears it may be because Verizon has not said anything official though the announcement is expected to monday.
Pay attention to the keyboard layout and the RAM processor and overall design. This is an entirely different device from the sprint versions. Notice I didn't say new device. The specs are fine, but lower than the other touch pros. If verizon's expected price of $349 on 2 year contract is true, this sucks. Not only would Verizon users pay more, but it'd be lower spec'd.
Update: As expected the touch pro is now for sale from Verizon's site:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4331
Its unfortunate, however this seems to be Verizon's MO
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Just got on the VZW site and the Touch Pro is now listed. With the new every 2 and corporate discount it is showing me a price of $269. Unfortunately I can't tell what Verizon has disabled.
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Just got on the VZW site and the Touch Pro is now listed. With the new every 2 and corporate discount it is showing me a price of $269. Unfortunately I can't tell what Verizon has disabled.
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Hmm, the corporate page for my dad's work isn't showing any discounts.
The biggies look like less RAM and an odd keyboard layout. TF3D appears to be an option from all the other things I have read. Maybe the RAM on this phone is to low to do TF3D well?
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WHOA! When I said less RAM, maybe I didn't think. I just reread the Verizon page and it's listing the phone as 128MB of RAM :O !!!!! It's possible that 64MB is unusable and dedicated to graphics (like the 32MB on the Sprint touch pro). But that still gives us HALF of the effective ram of the sprint version. I definitely need to see a device in store and check things out. If anyone can clear up the RAM issue it'd be great.
Different layout of keyboard, less RAM, and a different "square" design are the differences between in and the Fuze and Sprint model.
Touch Flo IS on the Verizon model, but isn't activated by default. You simply activate it from the "Today" screen app.
I am running the leaked Verizon Rom on my Sprint Touch Pro, activated on Verizon. I got tired of waiting, and I wanted the Sprint model, with more memory and better keyboard layout. It's working great on Verizon, and I have 100% functionality.
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Different layout of keyboard, less RAM, and a different "square" design are the differences between in and the Fuze and Sprint model.
Touch Flo IS on the Verizon model, but isn't activated by default. You simply activate it from the "Today" screen app.
I am running the leaked Verizon Rom on my Sprint Touch Pro, activated on Verizon. I got tired of waiting, and I wanted the Sprint model, with more memory and better keyboard layout. It's working great on Verizon, and I have 100% functionality.
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I don't mind the square design, it appears to be smaller and lighter, but the next is interesting: How did you get you TP and what did you pay? And how did you get it activated on verizon?
I explained what I did here:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-touch-pro/120970-sprint-touch-pro-verizon.html
I purchased the Touch Pro outright from a vendor, paying $430 shipped.
As far as activation, I explained it there.
I decided to look at the page that Cycomachead first posted on the web site to see if HTC shed light on what is in the Verizon Touch Pro.
I got excited when it mentioned mapping and the accelerometer. Sure enough it says verizon at that top of the page, but its a cut and paste from the sprint page. I don't think Verizon has these capabilities:
Get where you need to go with Sprint Navigation and Live Search.
Connect fast with Sprint’s Mobile Broadband Network & Wi-Fi®.
Check out favorite Websites like YouTube®, watch Sprint TV, and download music at the Sprint Music Store™.
Maybe I should call Verizon to ask them how much songs on the Sprint store will cost.
I have a friend who just bought the VZW HTC Touch Pro (stock from verizon), and he's having a hard time finding how activate TouchFlo, he's not much of savvy user. I am trying to help him figure it out without actually seeing the device since I am not near his location. Could you post more specific instructions as to how you activated it? Thanks!
Settings --->Today ---> Items tab ---> uncheck everything else and check TouchFLO 3D
I spoke to a verizon rep internally and they claim thier documentations says 192 MB of ram and the website is wrong. Can anyone confirm?
I wonder if the gps can be activated like the hack here for the xv6800? Shame to be stuck with vznav only like every other vzw phone.
For what its worth, according to my Touchpro from Verizon, it reads it has 192 mb of ram.
64 mb free is about average for boot up. I think you can tweak that though.
Im not crazy about the performance, its really ticking me off. Its on par with the WinCE PDa i had in 2002. Lots of lag.
If someone has any speed tips, I love to hear them.
EDIT: Oops, Cant forget the battery life, I had this thing charged fully at 8am when i left the house- its now (12:34pm) at 20%, Ive made 0 calls. Verizon WTF?
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For what its worth, according to my Touchpro from Verizon, it reads it has 192 mb of ram.
64 mb free is about average for boot up. I think you can tweak that though.
Im not crazy about the performance, its really ticking me off. Its on par with the WinCE PDa i had in 2002. Lots of lag.
If someone has any speed tips, I love to hear them.
EDIT: Oops, Cant forget the battery life, I had this thing charged fully at 8am when i left the house- its now (12:34pm) at 20%, Ive made 0 calls. Verizon WTF?
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My battery life has improved over the past few days. I've never had any lag issues or lockups as of yet.
Even with the improved battery life, it DID die very quickly today...was at 60% when I got into the office at 7, and was at 10% by 10. But that's because I get zero signal here in my office and forgot to turn the cell radio off.
I'm pretty pissed too. After some tweaks to my VZW Touch Pro it runs a touch faster, but overall I'm still fairly disappointed. Lag is still fairly bad and I just feel like I've been ripped off overall.
Also, my phone does have 192MB of Ram, weak. Additionally, locked GPS is bull****, as is the elimination of the YouTube app. I hate Verizon.
I just bought the the Verizon Touch Pro and mine's pretty laggy also... bummer. I have downloaded a Youtube App which works great though, and I highly recommend the beta Skyfire browser which plays flash... hulu.com etc. I'm currently reading up on unlocking the GPS... it was possible and fairly easy on the previous xv6800 model, so I'm sure we can get that VZNavigator taken care of.
holy crap am I glad I just left Verizon last week and went with Sprint.... well worth the ETF fees I'm going to have to pay...
It's too bad it's completely legal for Verizon to do this to it's customers, most people stick around for the "in" talking/texting, or because they're stuck on a contract.
Luckily you'll almost never need anything more than the 64 MB of free ram, it get's hard to use that much.
Sushisource: YouTube is actually a violation of their TOS No audio and/or video streaming allowed on their data network.
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Sushisource: YouTube is actually a violation of their TOS No audio and/or video streaming allowed on their data network.
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Thats what I've always heard too, but they advertise the Storm being able to stream audio and video
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I just bought the the Verizon Touch Pro and mine's pretty laggy also... bummer. I have downloaded a Youtube App which works great though, and I highly recommend the beta Skyfire browser which plays flash... hulu.com etc. I'm currently reading up on unlocking the GPS... it was possible and fairly easy on the previous xv6800 model, so I'm sure we can get that VZNavigator taken care of.
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Hmm can you give me the name of the app that plays You tube? As for skyfire, I couldnt get it to work, it just kept saying "locating" for 10 minutes.
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Thats what I've always heard too, but they advertise the Storm being able to stream audio and video
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It is not in their TOS that you can't stream audio/video. AT ONE POINT the TOS for the data cards and PDAs prohibited heavy streaming video, multiplayer online gaming, etc. It hasn't been this case since the 5GB cap was instated.
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Given same costs, which would you prefer?
I originally wanted to go to the Sensation, and I waited for it. But, lukewarm initial reviews, $5 more a month for a limited 2GB data cap (vs unlimited and LTE on VZW), and a more active development community with the Thunderbolt convinced me to change my order to VZW.
However, considering the terrible battery life of the Thunderbolt, the fact that I don't get LTE in my office or at home (1x and 3G are my normal connections), and the Tbolt being slightly inferior in the hardware department, I am thinking that i should switch back to the Sensation idea. I get 20% discount with Verizon, versus 12% on Tmobile.
I want to trust that upcoming Gingerbread ROMs for Thunderbolt will result in a better product on a faster network. I'm just somewhat underwhelmed with the Tbolt after a week.
Thoughts?
personally, i would look at it like this
1. what carrier has stronger signal strength where you are
2. LTE vs Hardware. your either going to get amazing download and upload speeds when LTE finally rolls out in your area and imo its amazing + its unlimited if you are grandfathered in; or you can get slightly improved specs which honestly, wont really matter in day to day usage. The only differences you'll really see are when you play high end games or something like that.
3. Which phone has a more developed community. As far as i know, the thunderbolt has a huge community just like the original incredible. Even now, after so many years the incredible is still getting roms. I saw a sense 3.0 rom on an incredible!
sooo up to you lol. your going to be using the phone not me :]
You know I was at the same exact crossroads. I just came off of my 2 year contract with T-Mobile and I was pondering buying the Sensation or switching to Verizon (which has much better coverage in my area). I like the Sensation just a tad better due to its dual core processor and how much shimmer it is. This goes without saying, the Sensation is one sexy phone. It all came down to the carrier for me. In my house I would average 1-2 bars. So I went with VZW and the Thunderbolt. Honestly I love the Thunderbolt. It's great. For you, I would say go with the carrier that has better service in your area which I believe is safe to say Verizon.
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if you don't get Ltd where you are most I would go with the sensation
Yeah, it is completely a coin toss. Look at the development community here vs. Sensation, the Tbolt is much more active.
Considering the hell that an AT&T buyout would bring to Atmosphere, I'd be far happier stuck on VZW for two years.
If I can just work around this battery misery, I think the Tbolt will be fine.
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Yeah, it is completely a coin toss. Look at the development community here vs. Sensation, the Tbolt is much more active.
Considering the hell that an AT&T buyout would bring to Atmosphere, I'd be far happier stuck on VZW for two years.
If I can just work around this battery misery, I think the Tbolt will be fine.
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Im getting about 8-10 hrs. on mine right now
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Sensation looks pretty sweet. If Verizon had it in their line up it would be a top choice.
Agreed with everybody else. Depends on the carrier. If no LTE get the sensation.
T-Mobile will throttle down your data after you hit the 2GB ceiling, get Verizon before the 7th of July and you're locked in with unltd data with no cap or throttle, be it 3G or LTE. Even if you don't have LTE yet, you will eventually. The majority of features on a smartphone use network data, so all the memory and processing power technology has to offer means absolutely **** when your data stinks.
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If you don't get LTE in your area, download LTE On/Off or a similar program and switch to CDMA Auto. This will greatly improve your battery life.
I would take a not-so-hot device on Verizon's 4G any day over a "hot device" on a non Verizon carrier any day!!
Plus, the TB is definitely hot
Let me offer my feelings, because I have just completed the exact same journey you are embarking on, meaning I had a Sensation on Tmo, and just witched to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Here are my impressions:
HTC Sensation 4G:
I used to be on my company's corporate plan with blackberrys but recently accepted a new job, which allowed me to get whatever phone/carrier I wanted. I had used Tmobile years ago and did the whole HTC HD2 custom ROM thing and had a really good time with it. The sensation always claimed to be on 4g mode and I got relatively good speeds. I could always stream music/videos without any delay, and Speedtest would report about 3mbps on average, with a peak of 8 on a couple of occasions. Coverage was excellent & no dropped calls.
The phone itself is a work of art. It's very light, had outstanding battery life under heavy usage, and Sense 3.0 is beautiful. The tweaked functionality of the camera app among other things was nice. My favorite feature of course being free built in hotspot/tethering. However something was missing.
I really missed the screensize of the HD2. While both are 4.3" diagonal, the S4G has a higher aspect ratio, so the phone is actually skinnier. I didnt like this. I really liked how readable text was on my HD2, and the proximity of icons/buttons when texting were. All in all, the HD2 was simply the perfect size for me.
Then I went to a VZW store and made then unbox a thunderbolt for me so I could try it out without those security wires attached to it. I immediately fell in love and knew within seconds that this was the phone for me. I ran out the buyers remorse period on tmobile just to make sure, and finally made the switch on Monday! I cant tell you how pleased I am. The phone just feels right in my hands.
Every time I used the S4G I was constantly judging it for its screensize. This was a huge bummer, because I could never enjoy the phone. Every time I picked it up all I could think about was how much more smushed and how much scrolling I needed to do to get the same screen real estate visible on the Thunderbolt.
Thoughts on the Thunderbolt:
People arent lying, the battery life is borderline abysmal, but this is actually fine with me since I work behind a desk. I am actually charging it via USB as we speak. I'll probably also plug it into my car charger so it's boosted by the time I get home. I seem to get about 4-6 hours of heavy usage out of it (I was recording myself giving seminars this morning, then surfing all through lunch using the kickstand). I dont mind the battery life since I can easily keep it juiced, but I would NEVER recommend this phone for anyone on the go.
The only thing I actually dont like is how bulky the phone is. Even my HD2 was slimmer/lighter. Maybe its the LTE modem, or maybe it's the kickstand, but the phone feels fat in my hand. In fact, I've basically traded one nuisance for another, nagging on the S4G due to size, and nagging on the TB due to weight. Time will tell if I begin to regret my decision, but I think the other benefits will make up for it.
On TMO, within my first week on the S4G I had already used 1gb. Granted I was playing around with it a bit more than usual, but still. I think we're all gonna hit 2GB a lot sooner than we realize, and the carriers on banking on this (hence the reason they made them). Having 100% unlimited grandfathered 4G with the TB was probably my second biggest selling point. I dont like using a phone and constantly checking the MyAccount app, or 3g watchdog to determine how close I am to running over. It kinda sours the whole experience. With the TB I can just kick back relax and know I'll never be bothered with it.
And speaking of bulk/kickstand issues, I just want to say how AWESOME this kickstand is. I am constantly using it (even though it's only been 3 days lol). I love being able to stand it up and flick through web pages with 1 finger while I eat a sandwich or pasta or something at work. I'm really shocked they arent doing this will all their phones now.
Oh yeah, one other thing, performance. Believe it or not, but the TB actually feels snappier to me running Froyo than the S4G. Dual core or not, the S4G's framerate when switching homescreens always had a little choppiness to it. This really blows and feels like you're using a bogged down phone. The TB always has wonderfully smooth transitions. Obviously this is due to lack of 3d fx, but I'd rather have a smooth simply interface than a clunky advanced one. The only feature of Sense 3.0 I actually used was the lockscreen widget. It's pretty hand to be able to open emails/sms messages from here, but it really only saves you from 1 extra step when you use a standard lockscreen. All the other upgrades apps were pretty useless. Yeah the new weather widget is awesome and I would just stare and stare at it for minutes at a time. That was on my first day. On the 2nd day I never even noticed it. I even used the weather as my wallpaper, and still I didnt notice it.
P.S. I was really nervous about this whole ATT thing too. ATT has given some blanket statement that existing 4g users on Tmo's network will be "given an opportunity to upgrade" or something along those lines. Basically you WILL have to get a new phone eventually. LTE is NOT what Tmo is using, and ATT wants that spectrum baaaaad. Believe me, once it's theirs they are going to use it, and completely redeploy it for real 4G as they can. If you're LUCKY, they MIGHT do it in a series of phaseouts, letting users of phones like the S4G exhaust their contracts before each little piece of spectrum is gobbled up and transformed into LTE space. And thats assuming they're going to play nice, and since when has ATT ever played nice? ATT is always the first carrier to impose some asinine rules or restrictions on their services. They are the last company I would trust to be fair and not just force me to renew my contract in 13 months or be dumped to 2g speeds forever.
Hope that helps!
Verizon + Unlimited 4G LTE on the Thunderbolt can't be beat.
Thank you very much for taking the time to write that up, RunNGun!
You've hit upon many of my concerns and observations. I was actually thinking that the Sensation's aspect ratio difference and smaller size would be a positive for me. the Thunderbolt with a silicone bumper case feels as massive as the old Apple Newton I had in 1994.
But, I'm a relatively substantial guy at six feet and 215lbs, so it's not overwhelmingly large. I think that the 4" AMOLED of the Samsung Galaxy S line is the sweet spot for me. but, when I had one on AT&T, I returned it within three weeks. And I am glad that I did.
I'm getting about the same battery that you are. I also have USB at work and chargers all over the house, cars and motorcycles so I'm quite covered for applying power. I might get 8 hours on the stock battery, with wifi off and green power on.
I'm holding off the root and flash until I am out of return period and whatever upgrade that may come has been seen. I did port over my TMobile number that I've had since 1998, so I am pretty much sold on the Tbolt. i did a Speedtest in the car at a stoplight the other day and got 30mbit! And, I've already burned through 5+ Gigs of data just letting the bloatware do its thing and playing some Pandora.
I had a very good experience with Tmobile on my old Nokia 5800. But that sucked so badly for data services, that i only had text and voice on it. However, i could always make a call, where my GF on iPhone 4 has about a 50/50 chance of getting service or an inbound call.
I've also had good experiences with VZW in the past, but CDMA is such dead tech, it is hard to buy into it in 2011. I'd prefer a true world phone for my travels.
Cheers again for a great synopsis.
So you got the TB then? I have to agree with you about CDMA, but with a carrier as big and powerful as VZW I guess it doesnt really matter, they've certainly proven that it is a reliable platform and they can do great things with it. I wish I could use my phone overseas too, but at least I'll always have my wife's HD2 which is GSM for those occasions.
BTW I forgot to mention that my battery life is stifled from use of bluetooth a lot. I basically leave bluetooth on 24/7, GPS too, even though I'm not really using GPS that much. I dont actually shut off the radio. WiFi is always off. The first day I actually got 12 hours out of it before charging, because I was just too busy to play with it. Hard to say what my ultimate average will really be.
My Desire is starting to feel really outdated due to the tiny amount of internal storage so I'd like to pick up something new. I know there is a Desire HD which looks pretty good, does anyone know if they have a version of it that works with US AT&T 3G (it has to be made for Telstra or Telus since they run the same bands)?
Would you guys recommend the Desire HD? Or would you recommend something else over it? It has to be GSM, work with US AT&T 3G, have lots of internal storage space, and I need to be able to buy it unlocked online. I'm willing to spend about $600 USD or so (but feel free to suggest cheaper phones or more expensive phones if you think I'd like them better).
I'm using a Desire as well.. damn good phone, but yes, its getting very dated, even with running Cm7 and tweaking it to hell for performance lol I'm in canada, but I'm picking up a Galaxy S II next friday. I dont think it's out there yet, but it is due out soon iirc. Id seriously wait for it if you have the money. I've been looking alot, comparing several different phones, but it seems the SGS2 just leads the pack currently, and by quite a bit from the reviews. There are free easy unlock methods online (a couple right on the market) and you can use it on whatever networks you want (our version works across all networks in canada)
I just bought a galaxy s2 from amazon unlocked for 650. It works on att 3g and it's the most future proof phone on three market, but if you hold out you might get a hold of the nexus prime in a couple months. Also if you want something cheaper buy the inspire 4g on ebay or somewhere else. It is the desire hd with att branding and.att.3g bands. Also the development on that phoney is sick. I just sold mine or I would offer it to you for what I sold it for (200).
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^ I'll check out the Inspire. If it's AT&T branded, does that mean they'll have a bunch of useless AT&T links/apps all over, and dev features locked? And will AT&T recognize it as a smart phone (because they don't recognize the Desire as smart phone so I get to use the cheap $15 unlimited internet plan).
To be honest I would like to get an HTC if possible because my last 5 phones have been HTC and I'm basically a fanboy now, lol.
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^ I'll check out the Inspire. If it's AT&T branded, does that mean they'll have a bunch of useless AT&T links/apps all over, and dev features locked? And will AT&T recognize it as a smart phone (because they don't recognize the Desire as smart phone so I get to use the cheap $15 unlimited internet plan).
To be honest I would like to get an HTC if possible because my last 5 phones have been HTC and I'm basically a fanboy now, lol.
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AT&T will recognize it as a smart phone, you should be able to keep your data plan though. Make sure they let you keep your unlimited plan, if the associate can't help ask to talk to a manager, they won't force you to use a limited plan if you already have an unlimited plan. Just make sure you keep the plan cause once it's gone you won't get it back.
The Inspire will come with AT&T crap but that's all easily removed through custom ROM's. The Inspire supports most Desire HD ROM's and visa-a-versa. The Inspire/Desire HD has probably the best developer support of any smart phone, it's a good phone, but the battery is small (1230mAh) and has a huge, battery eating 4.3" display. A lot of people complain about the Inspire's battery life, if you need to make it past a day with moderate usage then stay away from it. Still a good phone though.
I currently have the Atrix 4G and I love it, check it out. The Samsung Galaxy S II looks to be a great phone also.
I'm looking up Inspires on eBay and they're ridiculously cheap (around $300 USD), for example http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Inspire...0600720825?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43a92719b9
Is this right? When I bought my Desire it was around $600, even the Hero was more than 300, I can't believe the Inspire would be so cheap.
Do branded phones have any features locked, such as usb debugging, installation of non-market apps, etc. or can you do all of those things on them? I am one of those people who likes to stick to stock roms if possible, so I can live with a couple of silly AT&T ringtone apps and whatnot but I can't live with important features missing.
The Inspire is rediculously cheap because it is verging on the older side now after being out for a couple of months, and it isn't dual core. As far as I know, the only locked feature on the Inspire was the install unknown sources, but I think they have already allowed that via an ota update.
About your unlimited plan, yes. You will be able to keep it, and if the rep talking to you says that it isn't possible, ask to talk to their manager or just call back for a different rep. The thing is, your $15 Media Net Unlimited plan is not available for smartphones. They will bump you up the the $30 Unlimited Smartphone plan.
I have the Atrix 4G on AT&T's network. I bought it with a contract ($100) but IIRC they are available online unlocked for $400-600. Really great phone: Lightweight, dual-core, and it looks pretty good too. Although I heard the SGSII was the best Android phone to buy nowadays.
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The Inspire is rediculously cheap because it is verging on the older side now after being out for a couple of months, and it isn't dual core. As far as I know, the only locked feature on the Inspire was the install unknown sources, but I think they have already allowed that via an ota update.
About your unlimited plan, yes. You will be able to keep it, and if the rep talking to you says that it isn't possible, ask to talk to their manager or just call back for a different rep. The thing is, your $15 Media Net Unlimited plan is not available for smartphones. They will bump you up the the $30 Unlimited Smartphone plan.
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Hmm, that's not good. So that puts the actual price of the Inspire around $500 (adding in just under 200 for 1 year of the upgraded plan). Right now since the Desire isn't available here I can use it with the cheap plan and still get 3G. Are there any other comparable phones to the Inspire that AT&T doesn't have and that I can run the cheap plan on?
if you can find an unlocked/unbranded xperia play (aka: playstation phone) you should be able to use it on at&t. the only problem is it only has like 350 MegaBytes of internal storage, but it does come with an 8 GigaByte microsd card. it's my current phone (plus it's rooted {and themed with my own custom yellow glow theme}) it's pretty fast, and with root when you delete all the bloatware it gets almost 2 times the battery life . another thing is it isn't dual core (but who gives a crap with playstation controls) heres more info http://www.sonyericsson.com/play/?cc=us&lc=en&cid=sea_xplaylaunch_us_20110206_Google
note: this is MY opinion (never said anybody else agrees). so if you don't agree, go write in your diary or post your disagreeing opinion elsewhere.
edit: nevermind, figured out what was causing the issue
I'd probably also wait for the Nexus Prime.
And you might want to think about that Xiami M1 phone, that is about to come out, you won't find one, that is able to compete price/perfomance.
We'll have to see, how this one actually turns out to be. It it's good, it will at least replayce MY Desire!
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if you can find an unlocked/unbranded xperia play (aka: playstation phone) you should be able to use it on at&t. the only problem is it only has like 350 MegaBytes of internal storage, but it does come with an 8 GigaByte microsd card. it's my current phone (plus it's rooted {and themed with my own custom yellow glow theme}) it's pretty fast, and with root when you delete all the bloatware it gets almost 2 times the battery life . another thing is it isn't dual core (but who gives a crap with playstation controls) heres more info http://www.sonyericsson.com/play/?cc=us&lc=en&cid=sea_xplaylaunch_us_20110206_Google
note: this is MY opinion (never said anybody else agrees). so if you don't agree, go write in your diary or post your disagreeing opinion elsewhere.
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I wouldn't go for the Xperia Play. There's already been talks about it going to AT&T sometime in Q4 2011, and when it does, they'll likely bump you up to a smartphone plan as well. I got caught with the X10. I picked up an unlocked Rogers version a few months before AT&T released it, and the week before it came out, it detected my IMEI and switched me over.
Just looking for some first hand experience, or tips from a T-Mobile employee. I was just told by TMo that if this Vibrant fails me (being my 3rd one), I'll be able to get a completely different phone.
I have every intention of calling them in the next couple of days to kindly let them know that the GPS isn't working as intended, of course. I just did a road trip to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and my GPS failed me over and over (yes, I've done all of the fixes known to man) while my Garmin Nuvi worked flawlessly, as usual.
So, anyone know what my options will be? Since I paid $199.99 to extend my contract for this POS, I feel that I should be offered any of their smartphones at that price, but really have no idea as to how this works.
Thanks in advance!
You can get alot
As long as you are clear in your point and sound like you know what you are talking about you should be fine.
I went through this right when the sensation came out.
I got one for free and got to keep my vibe by signing a 2 year with customer loyalty. They sent me tbe sensation and it had touchscreen isues so back it went and I went through 2 alltoghether.
It wasnt a bad phone but I missed my im on it again now.
samsung
If you really like not having a heavy phone (sensation was like a weight haha) or the phone with a million issues the g2x.
I'd stick it out just 2 more months tops and we will have the htc ruby/amaze 4g and the tmobile galaxy s2 "hercules" both are rumored to be on tmos 42 mps network which os way more than double our current max of 14.4
Thanks for the response! That's a good point... I'll wait until some better phones are released here soon and then call to get my replacement. No point in doing it now since the selection isn't all that great.
Yea its funny how there are so many levels of "top teir" devices that out can be hard to keep track of. I can say I'll be way happier with a lighter phone with a more visible screen outdoors anf that they won't know my warranties gone because I used the same oems software of who made the phone. I think brand presence aside that the 42mps is worth the wait. i live in the mpls area and tmobile is very sttong here for signal so im excited for that chip.
In the meantime time try using the custom rom toxic crazy 8 with the clean and shiny theme. I put it on a guy I work withs vibrant and now he is wayyy happier with his phone that ever before. He even stopped talking about needing a new phone all the time hah
Now that the Note for AT&T is official and we know the specs I wanted to get some opinions on the phone. I have personally been waiting for this phone to come subsidized to AT&T since it was first announced and now that it is finally here, I'm nowhere near as excited as I thought I would be and that all comes down to one thing:Snapdragon.
I know this topic has been debated before and some think it is vastly inferior to the Exynos while others that the difference is negligible but this is my biggest reservation about the AT&T version. I am currently using a Captivate at 1.5ghz running CM9 build 15 and while the phone may be old it is still quite smooth. I went into an AT&T store and played with a Skyrocket to get an idea of how the Note would feel and I was very disappointed. It seemed way more sluggish and unresponsive than my current phone and definitely slower than my friends Exynos powered GSII.
Another problem I foresee with the Snapdragon is the availability of custom roms. Now I may be spoiled with the amount of developers that the I9000 and I897 have had but with the hardware on the AT&T note being different than the international version, that may greatly limit the amount of developers it will receive. This may turn out to be completely false but my favorite part about android are all of the custom roms and if that were to mostly disappear it would be very disappointing for me.
I should also mention that LTE is a complete non-factor when taking this phone into consideration as I currently live in the Detroit area and we probably won't even see LTE in a year at the least.
If anyone would like to share their opinion on anything Note related I would love to hear it.
I too am in the same boat... I couldn't wait until the Note was state side but when I finally read the specs for the AT&T Note I started to loose interest. I have read all kinds of reviews on the skyrocket Vs SGSII / Snapdragon VS Exynos and while they were informative I couldn't help feeling like it's all personal preference. Unfortunately, my preference is leaning Samsung which leaves me with only one option. Buy an unlocked Note!
I also have the ATT captivate with ICS running Doc's rom though and think that's running smooth. (Battery could be better but that's for another thread) and I love how the community has picked up this phone and continue to support it even though it's an older phone.
I guess I'm going to have to wait and see what happens and hope that developers pick up the ATT Note like they have the captivate. Maybe the snapdragon wan't be so bad.
The main reasons I wanted the Note when it was announced:
Big screen
Exynos dual core
NFC
Front camera
8mp rear camera
Stylus
I guess one missing out of six isn't too bad
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I know this topic has been debated before and some think it is vastly inferior to the Exynos while others that the difference is negligible but this is my biggest reservation about the AT&T version. I am currently using a Captivate at 1.5ghz running CM9 build 15 and while the phone may be old it is still quite smooth. I went into an AT&T store and played with a Skyrocket to get an idea of how the Note would feel and I was very disappointed. It seemed way more sluggish and unresponsive than my current phone and definitely slower than my friends Exynos powered GSII.
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I had a Captivate before I got my Inspire, I wish I would have kept it, great phone, just wanted a bigger one. I think the reason it seems sluggish to you is because your Captivate is running CM9, while the Note is running GB with TouchWiz. Big difference there. Remember the difference between stock TW on the Cappy vs. CM? I agree that development may be slower though because of the hardware differences, but I'm sure that it will be a popular phone, and there will be some persistent developer that makes magic happen for us. Maybe designgears or DAGr8 will step up to the plate for us.
I think the smart money is with waiting for the reviews to come in.
The fact they pulled a switcheroo with the guts of the thing, might warrant delay on buying one. I mean, it would really blow to get all excited only to find it dog slow. You can speculate until your exhausted, but ......we shall see.
I had the unlocked version. I expect; no I demand, the same performance.
Frankly, i'm not very optimistic. I don't like the sound of some of these posts.
should be ok
Doesn't the skyrocket or whatever it is called pretty much have the same chipset?
I got the international version for a couple of reasons. The #1 reason is I didn't want a carrier branded device. I want the phone as untouched by a carrier as possible, and usually you can only get that with an unbranded device. #2, was I didn't want to sign another contract. I've been on the old unlimited for a year now, and I prefer to keep it that way until at&t kicks me off of it. #3, in my market, I think h*ll will freeze over before we get LTE. 3rd largest city in the state but, at 200,000 people, it will be a while before it gets here, so the LTE radio wasn't an issue, I'm happy with H+, and I use wi-fi for anything more than checking email and a quick web browse anyway.
If the only thing at&t does to the Note is the radio, LTE, and the lack of the home button, then I don't see why it shouldn't be ok, but, carriers have a way of crippling devices, like disabling the FM radio & tethering, both of which I use just about daily.
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Doesn't the skyrocket or whatever it is called pretty much have the same chipset?
I got the international version for a couple of reasons. The #1 reason is I didn't want a carrier branded device. I want the phone as untouched by a carrier as possible, and usually you can only get that with an unbranded device. #2, was I didn't want to sign another contract. I've been on the old unlimited for a year now, and I prefer to keep it that way until at&t kicks me off of it. #3, in my market, I think h*ll will freeze over before we get LTE. 3rd largest city in the state but, at 200,000 people, it will be a while before it gets here, so the LTE radio wasn't an issue, I'm happy with H+, and I use wi-fi for anything more than checking email and a quick web browse anyway.
If the only thing at&t does to the Note is the radio, LTE, and the lack of the home button, then I don't see why it shouldn't be ok, but, carriers have a way of crippling devices, like disabling the FM radio & tethering, both of which I use just about daily.
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Yes, the Skyrocket is the LTE version of the SGSII on ATT. It has the snapdragon processor. I had the SGSII before that but returned it for the skyrocket because DFW had launched the LTE network and I wanted to be on it. I heard the same back and forth, but I find the skyrocket a very capable phone and the snapdragon a capable processor in every way. The one disappointment I have had in the skyrocket is the bluetooth. I hope the LTE radio does not affect the bluetooth because the GNote has a very good bluetooth system. That will be among the first thing I find out about the ATT Version.
So you tether on your Gnote? No nasty grams from ATT?
I was bummed about the Exnos initially but then really thought about it. For me Exnos would only really matter if I played a lot of games. The games I play aren't that graphics intensive (Worms, Front Line Commander, Eternity Warriors, Wordfeud, etc). Everything I've thrown at my Touchpad, which also has a S3 SOC, with CM7/9 it has played more than fine. Now with ICS on it the TP really flies and that's even with no video acceleration and other goodies that the Note will have working for sure. ICS on the Note is going to be awesome. I think the S3 chipset will more than suite my needs. The Exnos at this point is more for the gamers and bragging rights.
For me the things I want in my next phone are:
1) Big A$$ Screen
Ever since they announced the Streak I've wanted a phone with a large screen and this is larger than the Streak's screen. Luckily there is a big a$$ battery that comes along with it to get you thru 1 day without needing to be next to a power outlet.
2) NFC
Lots of cool things you can use this for, especially mobile payments. I plan on keeping this phone for a long time so I want to be semi future proof.
3) Local warranty
After having so many Captivates crap out between my wife and I, the thought having to send back that many Notes to the Int'l vendor just doesn't sit well with me. AT$T will comp free stuff when you've returned so many and will even replace it with a new one to keep a customer happy, or in my experience they have.
4) Functioning GPS
The Captivates GPS was barely usable especially in Google Navigation. With the Barometer and GLONASS the Note should be a much better GPS experience.
You guys have summed what exactly my reasoning lol. Anyway, hopefully the differences are not drastic from the skyrocket family. If there is little difference other then screen and such, then porting from them (and the tmobile gs2, where most of the development is) can be used, with adding like s memo and such. That would make everyones life better, as maybe something like hellraiser (old infuse term lol its a package you flash after flashing another rom from a whole different phone in the galaxy s family) would be fantastic with a ton more roms to choose from.
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I was bummed about the Exnos initially but then really thought about it. For me Exnos would only really matter if I played a lot of games. The games I play aren't that graphics intensive (Worms, Front Line Commander, Eternity Warriors, Wordfeud, etc). Everything I've thrown at my Touchpad, which also has a S3 SOC, with CM7/9 it has played more than fine. Now with ICS on it the TP really flies and that's even with no video acceleration and other goodies that the Note will have working for sure. ICS on the Note is going to be awesome. I think the S3 chipset will more than suite my needs. The Exnos at this point is more for the gamers and bragging rights.
For me the things I want in my next phone are:
1) Big A$$ Screen
Ever since they announced the Streak I've wanted a phone with a large screen and this is larger than the Streak's screen. Luckily there is a big a$$ battery that comes along with it to get you thru 1 day without needing to be next to a power outlet.
2) NFC
Lots of cool things you can use this for, especially mobile payments. I plan on keeping this phone for a long time so I want to be semi future proof.
3) Local warranty
After having so many Captivates crap out between my wife and I, the thought having to send back that many Notes to the Int'l vendor just doesn't sit well with me. AT$T will comp free stuff when you've returned so many and will even replace it with a new one to keep a customer happy, or in my experience they have.
4) Functioning GPS
The Captivates GPS was barely usable especially in Google Navigation. With the Barometer and GLONASS the Note should be a much better GPS experience.
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Well the Galaxy Note can give you a check by all of your criteria. I must comment on how much you will enjoy the GPS on the GNote. It really is pretty amazing! It locks onto a signal like a hungry dog on a bone and does not let go! Fast, accurate and Google Navi works like a champ! The GNote has access to about 57 or so satellites (US and GLONASS) versus the 27 or so in the US GPS network. That reduces time to lock and since you need 4 satellites to get a fix and altitude the Gnote is unrivaled in heavy urban areas like a downtown city.
Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
Maroon Mushroom said:
Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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Hopefully that means developers too! One of my main reasons i make sure there are developers.
Maroon Mushroom said:
Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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This might be the Infuse reincarnation where it will get ICS probably in Feb 2013.
Who knows why Exynos was not embedded in the AT&T Note?
arjun90 said:
Who knows why Exynos was not embedded in the AT&T Note?
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Afaik current gen exynos is not compatible with lte. Same reason the skyrocket has the qualcomm s3
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Afaik current gen exynos is not compatible with lte. Same reason the skyrocket has the qualcomm s3
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Just keep in mind the S3 is still an amazing chipset. Look at the skyrocket forums. They've done amazing things with the same hardware
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Exactly. I chose the skyrocket and couldn't be happier.
From my testing
Exymos- great for games
Snapdragon- better multitasking and the obvious lte compatibility
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Just keep in mind the S3 is still an amazing chipset. Look at the skyrocket forums. They've done amazing things with the same hardware
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I know development will be fine for this Beast!! I need the LTE for when I'm on campus. My infuse doesn't do so well in some of the buildings, wifi is so so too. A Guy in my class has the vivid and he has almost full bars everywhere on campus. So the int. Version wouldn't be very useful to me.
What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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They probably will. The LTE plans are exactly the same cost for the commensurate HSPA plan you are on. You will still be able to get the LTE Unlimited smartphone plan for $30. You might travel to an area with LTE and then would be able to use it. The LTE SIM can also be used in a HSPA area and phone but if you keep your HSPA SIM you will not be able to use LTE if and when in an LTE area.
Just a guess on my part.
tonyc0642 said:
What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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Nope, you won't be forced to change it at all. Sales reps encourage you to keep it. You're good to go.
If something happened and it was removed, as long as you say that you previously paid for it and was removed without your consent, you can get it back.
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Hey guys,
I'm going to be purchasing this device this weekend and just wondered how your experience has been and what carrier you are using.
Using AT&T, love the screen, love the awesome battery life, love how snappy the HAM2 is.
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love it, use it with straight talk.
when my year is over, probably switch to using straight talk tablet and google voice/hangouts for half the price.
L03 top tier unlimited 45 a month on T-Mobile. Get the black one
Thanks for the info. Are you guys getting LTE with it? I'm considering going with Cricket because they have been bought by AT&T and have a large LTE coverage area here in Phoenix
I've had mine since mid July. It has changed my mind, on the issue of "flagship" specs....
I'm of the opinion now, that super duper specs, unless you are running some sort of 3d gaming, video editing or something
similar, is OVERKILL. I was surprised how snappy, lag free this device is, and how clear & bright "just" a 720p screen is.
I have had NO problems with mine. 100% stock, no root, no unlocked bootloaded, nothing. Different launcher (Nova prime).
Running Straight talk (at&t card). I use around 1500-2000 minutes talk per month, few hundred emails/month, maybe 10-20
photos/month, maybe 20-30 texts/month and it is EASY to get 2 days, sometimes I could if needed, squeeze 3 days out of it.
I came from a Note1, so the size wasn't an issue. I sat them both and it's the same width & depth, and about 1/2" taller, but I
went from a 5.3" to a 6.1" screen. Huawei knocked one out of the park, and it's one of the best kept phone device secrets on
the web. When you optimize the screen with the SOC, couple that with a tweaked OS and a huge battery, who cares about
kit kat...I LOVE it being so stable and no FC's.
I'm using mine on metro PCs and couldn't be happier, unlimited 4g LTE
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Right on guys. I'm looking forward to getting mine and selling my Note 3, or might keep it for a backup. Not sure yet. My point of purchasing this is to get away from Sprint and their terrible service. I'm getting anxious now lol
Oh my......I did the same, Sprint sucks
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pucherto123 said:
Oh my......I did the same, Sprint sucks
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True story. They wont even let me change my plan without upgrading a phone and spending more money.
Do you guys recommend the black or white one?
I would say black, i think the back cover has a better grip and doesnt scratch as easy as the white one.
MikeyLee said:
Do you guys recommend the black or white one?
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I say black also, mostly just personal preference (I've had two white phones and somewhere down the line regretted white each time).
Plus as stated above the black one has a textured finish while the white one is glossier.
Ultimately personal preference will win out and that's exactly how it should be. You're gonna be happy with this device regardless. I honestly don't remember reading anyone's regrets over purchasing the HAM2.
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MikeyLee said:
Do you guys recommend the black or white one?
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White one with white/black trident cyclops case. It stays in the case so I have the case back rather than the phone back to hold on to and it is plenty grippy. Also the white black contrast theme matches the software look and is pretty classy. That's my personal preference though.
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get Straight Talk $40 every 2 months tablet plan use Hangout for text and call, best bang for your buck.
What does that plan include?
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What does that plan include?
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Data only:
http://www.straighttalk.com/wps/portal/home/shop/serviceplans/tablet
See also:
Making the Ascend Mate 2 a Data only phone for really cheap phone service.
p51d007 said:
I've had mine since mid July. It has changed my mind, on the issue of "flagship" specs....
I'm of the opinion now, that super duper specs, unless you are running some sort of 3d gaming, video editing or something
similar, is OVERKILL. I was surprised how snappy, lag free this device is, and how clear & bright "just" a 720p screen is.
I have had NO problems with mine. 100% stock, no root, no unlocked bootloaded, nothing. Different launcher (Nova prime).
Running Straight talk (at&t card). I use around 1500-2000 minutes talk per month, few hundred emails/month, maybe 10-20
photos/month, maybe 20-30 texts/month and it is EASY to get 2 days, sometimes I could if needed, squeeze 3 days out of it.
I came from a Note1, so the size wasn't an issue. I sat them both and it's the same width & depth, and about 1/2" taller, but I
went from a 5.3" to a 6.1" screen. Huawei knocked one out of the park, and it's one of the best kept phone device secrets on
the web. When you optimize the screen with the SOC, couple that with a tweaked OS and a huge battery, who cares about
kit kat...I LOVE it being so stable and no FC's.
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^^^ this totally. Bought mine direct from huawei in the final hours of their pre-sale release back in June. The 720p screen is no problem at all. In fact, I wouldn't want the current fad of HD screens due to their battery draw.
I also get 10hrs avg on-screen time, using screen brightness of 70-100% (lots of outdoor FL sunshine use). I use the internal 'Normal' battery saving mode, after having some app/notif issues on the other battery-save modes. I keep wifi on 24/7.
Currently using the $45 Straight Talk plan. Had wanted to use the Tmo $30 plan, but coverage inside my home was just miserable. Will keep hoping for some changes there, so I can switch back. But I have no problem with LTE speeds on att.
Snappiness is superb. I have just over 500+ apps and don't have any issues. I use all 9 home screens (Apex Launcher) covered with 95% widgets, not counting SwipePad and all my widget-pad use there. I use Apex+ for a launcher (but I use Nova+ on my old tab). Both equally as good. I think it's rebooted on me twice since June, and that was clearly me pushing the boundaries on using tons of widgets hidden in layers. And I push it to the limits!
You're allowed to 'disable' any app bloat, which wasn't much at all to my surprise. But I still disabled the few usual suspects - FB, GBooks/Music/etc, preinstalled Games, etc.
There's also network level control on each app. I believe that went away in KitKat (unless rooted), so I'm not so sure I'm pushing for that upgrade atm. Especially with the KK sdcard problems. I'm happy with what I have. Using a new 32gb inside for the 'default' storage.
Just want to root now for the Exposed module to change the puke-grey nav bar on the bottom to black. That's really the only thing that bugs me atm.
Was one of those in the early One+ rat race, but so glad I got fed up early on and someone on their forum mentioned the Mate2 back in June. I thought about it, then jumped on it last minute and never looked back.
Really, really happy with my Mate2. Hope you will be too!
MikeyLee said:
Thanks for the info. Are you guys getting LTE with it? I'm considering going with Cricket because they have been bought by AT&T and have a large LTE coverage area here in Phoenix
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I'm on Cricket. Phone works great with it. LTE everywhere I go in FL
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I'm on Cricket. Phone works great with it. LTE everywhere I go in FL
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Right on, yeah I went with Cricket here in Phoenix and it's the first time I have had constant LTE and I went from place to place yesterday. Even to Apache Junction and Queen Creek which we refer to as BFE here. When I had Sprint I was lucky to even get 3g and a cell signal out there. Had no issues yesterday on Cricket with this new device