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Hi folks
yes, it's done, however, there's no such thing as a free lunch any more, and as a result of the annoying question barraging freeloaders, I'm afraid this comes with a few strings attached.
Please note I'm not victimising Nike owners; I was purchased a Polaris and given a Kaiser and hence was indebted to those communities.
now, I'm not asking the bloody earth for it (£5 minimum), so if you need to get unlocked, [SIZE=+2]go here[/SIZE] or if it's down, [SIZE=+2]go here
Mod edit: I've been asked to tell you that there is another alternative to this!
If you so feel, you can pop along to imei-check.co.uk where they will happily unlock (SIM only, no security or CID unlock) your nike for the sum of £20 GBP (yes four times the amount). I'd also like to point out the fact that imei-check will be profiting, whereas olipro/cmonex will be buying a nike to further help the community...
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5 pounds is fair!
^_^
A very elegant solution, well worth £5. I recommend this to all
thanks for this! quick question though, do i need to backup everything first or does it only unlock the phone?
thank's oli for this and all for your's jobs
I paid and impatient for unlock my niki
bigviv said:
thanks for this! quick question though, do i need to backup everything first or does it only unlock the phone?
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i would backup anyway, to be safe, but you dont need to as it wont wipe anything.
wish this was out back when the only other option was to pay £20!
thanks anyway. goodwork.
I can't understand why this post is a sticky one, i can't agree on the idea of selling unlock codes, this is not fair, and it is against the ideal of xda comunitty. We all work for the same here on xda, i agree with donations but i can't agree of selling things like unlock codes. I am SURE that sooner or latter a FREE unlock tool will be released.
But, i also want to say that olipro has done a nice job, i just can't agree with the selling....
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I can't understand why this post is a sticky one, i can't agree on the idea of selling unlock codes, this is not fair, and it is against the ideal of xda comunitty. We all work for the same here on xda, i agree with donations but i can't agree of selling things like unlock codes. I am SURE that sooner or latter a FREE unlock tool will be released.
But, i also want to say that olipro has done a nice job, i just can't agree with the selling....
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yeah, well you wouldn't, you're not the one that spent hours of their totally unvalued time doing it.
just another pissing freeloader, go figure out how to patch the AMSS yourself.
hi thx for this.
btw. sorry for this Q. what means CID Unlock? thx
balviforever
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yeah, well you wouldn't, you're not the one that spent hours of their totally unvalued time doing it.
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No, He is spending his Time in the GPS
and WIFI Project and his Niki is´nt
Simlocked.
He thinks the same as i!
Olipro said:
yeah, well you wouldn't, you're not the one that spent hours of their totally unvalued time doing it.
just another pissing freeloader, go figure out how to patch the AMSS yourself.
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I agree, although I have not done any XDA hacking, I have made some tools over the years that are used world wide, I spend month's coding, bug fixing, adding new features, etc...
And what do we coders get in return... Nothing but moaning that there is this error, that error, and wish it would do... (You get the idea)
I still realease my software to the masses and hope/rely on donations. But the hope/rely don't get you very far.
I agree with the Minimum donation, and will be paying myself as soon as I need my Niki Sim Unlocking.
Olipro said:
yeah, well you wouldn't, you're not the one that spent hours of their totally unvalued time doing it.
just another pissing freeloader, go figure out how to patch the AMSS yourself.
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I do waste my time with niki development, and i don't get payed for that, i also don't spend time writting post's talking about how many hours i work for getting something fixed...
We are spending time on gps and wifi fix and if we can make this work, we won't sell anything, we will share it for free!
If you want to get paid for what you do, you shouldn't waste your time coming here to XDA... The idea of XDA isn't get paid for what you do, it is doing that because we all work for the same...
But... You can do wathever you want, i am not a moderator or admin, i just don't agree with this...
I only want to say 2 words about this:
1st. It's a very smart solution, cheap and olipro can get some money to work in others devices.
2nd. THANKS.
Regards
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If you want to get paid for what you do, you shouldn't waste your time coming here to XDA... The idea of XDA isn't get paid for what you do, it is doing that because we all work for the same...
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sadly life isn't that black and white, and if you notice, I've made a fair few damn contributions, but I'm afraid I'll reserve my right to pick and choose what I do.
also, whilst I do wish you all the best with the GPS/WiFi attempt, I've got the nagging feeling that without actually cutting a large hole in your device and fitting some GPS receiving attachments to the chip, it's impossible.
Oli ... you are so smart ... tell us ... how to change the nv-items? is it enough to start gps? if the antenna not present, we can check this in some minute.
If not ... dont bug us!
First of all: Thanks Oli for your time you spent on research. You're first with the Niki Solution as I understand (I don't mind imei-check.com ).
But I also do not agree with selling of solution.
I'm sure you was thinked about how to protect better your solution using individual IMEI, but will be very sadly when you will your solution cracked for public use.
We will be happy that will have a the free solution, but you will be not so happy.
Anyway.. I still use my method but still thinking how to donate you. (my country doesn;t support paypal).
that's all!
thanks, works fine (needed urgently cos of travelling! came at the right time!)
but can i flash the radio back to the one i had before? or does it work well with the niki project one?
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also, whilst I do wish you all the best with the GPS/WiFi attempt, I've got the nagging feeling that without actually cutting a large hole in your device and fitting some GPS receiving attachments to the chip, it's impossible.
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Thanks for the support....
I just need to say this: Don't pay for your unlock codes, a tool will be released SOON and at that time you can donate (if you want to).
Olipro, thanks for all the free work you made for XDA.
This is my last post in this thread.
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Thanks for the support....
I just need to say this: Don't pay for your unlock codes, a tool will be released SOON and at that time you can donate (if you want to).
Olipro, thanks for all the free work you made for XDA.
This is my last post in this thread.
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it's a fiver, pay a fiver to unlock now; hardly busting a nut, or yeah, sit and wait and see if you get lucky.
What I dislike most though, is that because I came up with a solution, you think I'm somehow obligated to ****ing hand it out.
Can remove simlock from HTC Raphael and from any other HTC devices.
This service is not free.
Please send me a Private Message for details.
P.S. you do not need to reflash, disassebly, hard reset your device!
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Can remove simlock from HTC Raphael and from any other HTC devices.
This service is not free.
Please send me a Private Message for details.
P.S. you do not need to reflash, disassebly, hard reset your device!
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You can call your service provider and have them unlock it
they have to unlock it if you request
Nice try though
First of all not all providers give you the unlock code. Even if they do they have contract terms and conditions which have to be satisfied before they give you the unlock code like you must have completed 6 months of the contract..
Secondly the unlock code wont be available to you instantly, you must wait for 15 days to 1 month before you get the code.
Third :- You must be the owner of the phone + contract for them to give you the code ( This is where most people miss out)
its a shame to put advertisement like this in a forum that consists of people trying to get this same feature for free ...
you should share the info or just go to e-bay !
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its a shame to put advertisement like this in a forum that consists of people trying to get this same feature for free ...
you should share the info or just go to e-bay !
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Whilst I may agree with you, this same argument is raised every time a new HTC phone is released and Tupisdin offers a paid for unlock for it.
You have the choice to not take him up on his offer and wait for a free version to be created; he simply offers a service for those who need it now.
you and many others...
funny he got the phone whilst it not even being released..
i'd probably better off ignoring this
you are so right
guys plz don't take this one like the diamond one.
the money charged by tupisdin is going to the forum and not into his pocket, so that's generous.
well if thats the case i'll pay directly to the forum show him the confirmation note and he can give it to me freely then?
People this is legit, the moderators and admin know about this and the only currency changing hands goes directly to the forum as a donation.
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tupisdin said:
Can remove simlock from HTC Raphael and from any other HTC devices.
This service is not free.
Please send me a Private Message for details.
P.S. you do not need to reflash, disassebly, hard reset your device!
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shame on you man, put this for free and donation paypal link
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People this is legit, the moderators and admin know about this and the only currency changing hands goes directly to the forum as a donation.
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well if thats the case then there is no issue with me giving the money directly to the site and getting the unlock. why complicate things?
I dont actually need an unlock but this guys has been just about as shady as the European Unions financial records, we should have access to all details of the transfers of this money....if he is to be believed that is.
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shame on you man, put this for free and donation paypal link
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theres no free lunch today , not even, you have seen many free solutions, but not this one, if you are in a hurry and dont want to pay, ha ha ha you have to forget about unlocking raphael, its too new and, very expencive to unlock at this time. thats the life just get over it. and dont forget about all the free stuff xda-dev has given you.
and i know tupisdin is a real gentleman and already helped loads of xda-dev members. and you can trust him 100% to get your raphael unlocked
you know, a few years ago that was exactly why this forum existed to HELP people do this stuff, funny thing is people still donated money because it was a great place to be, that was back in the day when folk were trying to get thinks like WM05 running on WM2003se, or 2003 running on 2002, buz lightyear did some fantastic work and never asked for a penny, people donated to him and im sure folk have given him old devices as well.
That has changed, sadely, perhaps we need an XDA developers pro or something because this is not the place it originally designed as
buzz
buzz............ capitol, grand expert and man.
What I have been asking, how is Tupisdin getting the unlock codes? Is he working for htc, or does he have a calculator or something...
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What I have been asking, how is Tupisdin getting the unlock codes? Is he working for htc, or does he have a calculator or something...
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And i very much doubt you will get an answer.
I have no doubt he either works for HTC, or knows someone who does, like many others here who currently do or have in the past.
But the bottom line is, that he is able to sim unlock them, he charges for it which he then donates to xda-devs. if you do not want to pay, then don't. Wait until someone else creates a free version.
As for things having changed, maybe not so much. the number of people who donate or try and help is still tiny compared to the number of people who come here and leech, and flame, and ***** when they kill their device cos they didn't read the instructions properly. and sadly the number of people like this has increased dramatically over the last few years as these devices get more popular.
And besides, for most of the guys here who develop stuff (like Olipro, Cmonex, schaps and many others), they work damn hard so why the hell shouldn't they get a little something for it? Would you go to work and expect not to get paid??
OK everyone has said thier piece, nothing has been on topic since I requested it to be so sorry folks, thread over........tupisdin you can create another one if you so wish but it seems the majority of people want a free ride!? shame really.
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Can remove simlock from HTC Raphael and from any other HTC devices.
This service is not free.
You will get unlock code in 5 minutes to 72 hours.
It will costs 50$ = 34EUR = 27GBP by donation to xda-developers.com - http://forum.xda-developers.com/donations.php
Please send me a Private Message for details.
P.S. you do not need to reflash, disassembly, hard reset your device!
Fellows, can anyone give a feedback on successful/unsuccessful sim unlock? Thank you!
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Fellows, can anyone give a feedback on successful/unsuccessful sim unlock? Thank you!
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Sim Locked Phones are not out yet.
sumitescp said:
Sim Locked Phones are not out yet.
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Oh yes they are my friend... At least TMN ones...
Diamonds as well as Raphaels
Cheers.
They are out T-Mobile has MDA Vario IV out which is a contract phone.
from the raphael... there are NO BRANDED raphael yet and you can buy the code from your provider if one really feels the need to and cant wait till people fix some proggy for it ....
yes this is great bull**** and yes we been here and yes it freaking irritates me !!
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from the raphael... there are NO BRANDED raphael yet and you can buy the code from your provider if one really feels the need to and cant wait till people fix some proggy for it ....
yes this is great bull**** and yes we been here and yes it freaking irritates me !!
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what is bull**** / irritating?
and if you want us to er, fix up a program for it... hopefully soon done
this unpresent force to donate in order to get this code...
i still dont see the point in this .. no need to discuss
codes work for this people whom like to have it.. donations go to the forum ... correct me if im wrong
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and if you want us to er, fix up a program for it... hopefully soon done
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yes things progress quickly now that the phone is more available
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this unpresent force to donate in order to get this code...
i still dont see the point in this .. no need to discuss
codes work for this people whom like to have it.. donations go to the forum ... correct me if im wrong
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donating the money is upto you, if you dont want to unlock it then you dont want it, but there are people who need to unlock their phones immediately, NO FREE SOLUTION AT THE MOMENT
well as for free solutions to the average freeloader - none.
cheap solution - as I promised earler in this thread it is here ... Raphael / Touch pro sim unlock by OliNex
contributors as always, get it free ...!
anyone who gets upset that it is not free for non contributors, well, consider that you still get your locked device real cheap overall *and* it is now unlocked too, and the total amount is still not much!
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well as for free solutions to the average freeloader - none.
cheap solution - as I promised earler in this thread it is here ... Raphael / Touch pro sim unlock by OliNex
contributors as always, get it free ...!
anyone who gets upset that it is not free for non contributors, well, consider that you still get your locked device real cheap overall *and* it is now unlocked too, and the total amount is still not much!
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that makes more sence doing it this way, what bugs me is the apparent need for a middle man as is the case with other "unlockers", i donate straight to the forum which is exactly where the money goes anyway so why the middle man, just seems a bit daft if you ask me.
Course things have changed on here over the years, an as they say you dont get anything for free any more so thats how things have to be now.
I am sure I take more from xda than I give, and I do try and help out when I can, but frankly most of us don't have the same skill set as olipro/cmonex. In case you haven't noticed who made your spl lately, take a look. I respect their work and think they are being more than fair. The amount they are charging doesn't even come close to covering the amount of work they put in, not to mention the free software and support they supply the forum. I wish xda would go to paid memberships (10-20£ a year for everyone but active cooks) to weed out a lot of junk and help support those who contribute. Without XDA, my phone(s) would suck.
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I am sure I take more from xda than I give, and I do try and help out when I can, but frankly most of us don't have the same skill set as olipro/cmonex. In case you haven't noticed who made your spl lately, take a look. I respect their work and think they are being more than fair. The amount they are charging doesn't even come close to covering the amount of work they put in, not to mention the free software and support they supply the forum. I wish xda would go to paid memberships (10-20£ a year for everyone but active cooks) to weed out a lot of junk and help support those who contribute. Without XDA, my phone(s) would suck.
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Im saying that what olipro/cmonex and co do is better than what otherpeople do on here, they give people the opertunity to get it free if they contribute which is exactly what the forum was made for in the first place, i dont agree with free loaders taking and not giving, what bugs me about all the other folk who charge for things is that they dont take in to account what that person gives back to the comunity financially or otherwise.
Can we use Diamond radio ROMs after this security unlock ?
my pro was already unlocked
i have just recieved my Pro from HI, in toerh words the DUTCH provider KPN, and it was already unlocked, not a problem whatsoever, i even tried it with my T-Mobile sim, and it functioned perfectly.
so i dont know if basically they give em out locked or not, as most of my friends who have got that phone recieved it unlocked.
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that makes more sence doing it this way, what bugs me is the apparent need for a middle man as is the case with other "unlockers", i donate straight to the forum which is exactly where the money goes anyway so why the middle man, just seems a bit daft if you ask me.
Course things have changed on here over the years, an as they say you dont get anything for free any more so thats how things have to be now.
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not sure what you mean by middle man.
anyway, yes you still get many things for free such as the hardspl itself! that will ALWAYS remain free. and then, many cool custom roms and packages/cabs, descriptions and support for unbricking the usual non special bricks, support for flashing too, etc. etc.
edit: ah I see there is no disagreement after all.
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yes! you can.
(making message 10 chars long )
Great news ! Gonna upgrade as soon as I get home. Thanks for all the hard work !
I want to buy a phone that is locked to vodaphone from adbroad... If i donate and u give me this advice will i be able to unlock it and use it 100% ?
Hey Im sure it may have been brought up before but I didnt find much in the search area.
I dont want a fight or two I just figured XDA Dev was all about modding/flashing/unlocking PDA/Smartphones? Why is there no free unlocking kit? Also all the paid versions go directly to the XDA forum web site and not into anyone elses pocket?
Dont misunderstand im not here to ***** about whats going on but I thought thats what this site was about - Developing -. If the site really needs help with donations and thats the whole point of this then thats fine. I just remember back in the HTC Wizard days it was all for fun.
Anyhow I'm about to e-Gay a fuze right now im pretty excited and as always keep up the good work XDA
best regards,
eddy
wrong subforum, and this HAS been gone over 100s of times, so why did you even bother posting this useless thread?
have you tried here?
Yeah I visited that website but it doesn't mention that its going towards the forums. Is it going 100% towards the developer? I know it says Donation I was just wondering. If the developer wants money for the software thats fine if people want the phone unlocked they will pay it.
I was just asking this because Its always been a free community from what I remember.
best regards,
eddy
*shrug* They have good rules, I like em.
1) If you give back to the community, they give you it for free -- so if you're a 'developer' or just plain help, they help you
2) SIM locked or locked, most apps don't care what SIM card is in there
From what I saw from the thread, they just want to charge 'free loading' users for their work, while still allowing community members/participants free services.
Props to them, IMO, They gave me a free unlock and I still donated.
am not really sure if you get the idea or the concept of developing an idea. but im pretty sure youd agree that any developer can do whatever they wish with what they develop irregardless of whatever community you can enumerate. unfortunately, the developer as he says:
"you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something."
the developer has developed a sim unlocker for free for the the hermes (of which i have used) and probably its about time he gets compensated for what he deserves.
Tough **** indeed.
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am not really sure if you get the idea or the concept of developing an idea. but im pretty sure youd agree that any developer can do whatever they wish with what they develop irregardless of whatever community you can enumerate. unfortunately, the developer as he says:
"you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something."
the developer has developed a sim unlocker for free for the the hermes (of which i have used) and probably its about time he gets compensated for what he deserves.
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Anyone fool enough to talk to potential customers in that manner deserves NOTHING. If he's that much of a jerk in general, what's going to happen when you need customer service? Is someone that speaks to the public in that manner someone you wish to trust?
There are cheaper solutions on ebay and they won't treat you like garbage.
This has been discussed several times.
BTW. Olipro has unlocked a whole lot of devices, most of them for free, he developed custom SPLs which allow us to flash any ROM to almost any device.
The so called Hard-SPLs always have been provided for free.
Which is amazing, this will allow us to truly customize our devices, be grateful for that, there are only few who can accomplish this patching of the bootloaders, and make flashing relatively safe!
Mostly the n00bs and the non-contributers have been *****ing @ him, mainly because lately the SIM unlock isn't free for them.
And this is something I don't understand: if you buy a locked phone it is heavily subsidized, you pay less for the device BECAUSE it is locked.
The small donation that is asked for the non contributing part of the community is peanuts in regards to the actual cost of a non-cloked device.
So even if you have to pay for the unlock: your device is still way cheaper than if you bought the unlocked device to start with.
Olipro's unlock method works even if the carrier relocked the device, you can't say that from the code sellers (they have only the HTC codes, not the carrier codes if they changed it).
And it also gives you the opportunity to secure-unlock the device and change the CID.
Nobody else is offering this.
Even tho I don't have the device and there is not a recovery yet, I am already working hard on a rom for all of you Fascinate people :] Just check back on this post every so often for the release. I will probably release it when Koush releases his recovery for the Fascinate. Pretty much what this is going to do is de-bloat your phone, fully deodex it and other little things here and there. If you want more roms like this for the Fascinate please donate and buy me one here.
Check back here for updates :]
Very cool! Were your other roms froyo?
I have no problem donating to you. I'm just waiting for a recovery to come along first.
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So this rom wont have froyo?
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Very cool! Were your other roms froyo?
I have no problem donating to you. I'm just waiting for a recovery to come along first.
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Yeah my other roms were froyo. This wont be froyo yet, I am just going to play around with the system folder for the first 2 releases. Then comes the fun :]
Pretty much a second post of your other "please give me money"... Great that you want to develop a ROM but I am sure I'm not the only one to think you are really just fishing for some money (unlike a lot of other ROM developers who do GREAT work without even asking for a dime)
Isn't the whole "pay me now for work later" something we all learned at a young age never worked out well?
Matt, if you want to do something useful, besides shuffle some icons around and rename system files, come help work out the kernel / source compilation issue(s). Once that's done we'll still have to develop the recovery.
There's no point even discussing custom roms without a custom recovery.
Until then, this is like paying full price for a pre-order for a device that hasn't even been announced.
IMO, this thread should be locked at this point.
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Pretty much a second post of your other "please give me money"... Great that you want to develop a ROM but I am sure I'm not the only one to think you are really just fishing for some money (unlike a lot of other ROM developers who do GREAT work without even asking for a dime)
Isn't the whole "pay me now for work later" something we all learned at a young age never worked out well?
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God damn, I'm not fishing for money. What the hell. Wow....I am trying to work on a rom for when the damn recovery comes out and people are giving me ****? I am trying to help what the hell. Wow.
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Matt, if you want to do something useful, besides shuffle some icons around and rename system files, come help work out the kernel / source compilation issue(s). Once that's done we'll still have to develop the recovery.
There's no point even discussing custom roms without a custom recovery.
Until then, this is like paying full price for a pre-order for a device that hasn't even been announced.
IMO, this thread should be locked at this point.
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Actually I do a lot more than that so dont be a ass. I am actually going to work on the kernel **** -_- Damn.
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Pretty much a second post of your other "please give me money"... Great that you want to develop a ROM but I am sure I'm not the only one to think you are really just fishing for some money (unlike a lot of other ROM developers who do GREAT work without even asking for a dime)
Isn't the whole "pay me now for work later" something we all learned at a young age never worked out well?
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Have you even seen his past work? Obviously you haven't, because if you had, you would know Matt is sure to do some great work. It's pretty hard to develop a ROM for a phone he doesn't have though, hence, he's asking for donations.
If you don't have the means to donate that's not a problem - no one is expecting you to of course, but don't give a developer **** because he wants to make this phone better.
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Actually I do a lot more than that so dont be a ass. I am actually going to work on the kernel **** -_- Damn.
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I agree cut the man some slack im sure he does great work and he said he would release it AFTER a custom recovery is out. Keep doing what you're doing dont let what some people are saying bother you.
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Have you even seen his past work? Obviously you haven't, because if you had, you would know Matt is sure to do some great work. It's pretty hard to develop a ROM for a phone he doesn't have though, hence, he's asking for donations.
If you don't have the means to donate that's not a problem - no one is expecting you to of course, but don't give a developer **** because he wants to make this phone better.
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I did not mean for this and the other thread to turn into a flame war. I just know that in the android community, a lot of users have been burned by donating to "devs" (chefs) and then the "dev" bails.
The work he has done on the Droid 2 does seem to be good for that phone, and thats what that phone needs. The fascinate though, is a different beast. More power to him if he wants to help. But begging for people to help him buy a phone before we even have a means to install his roms leaves a cheap taste in my mouth.
I want to thank any dev that has interest in developing / cooking up roms for the phone, as people will enjoy their phone more. I just ask that said devs wait for people to finish developing a simple and safe way to install the rom. I released a rom for the fascinate last week that had most of the bloatware removed, but the only way to flash it is by odin, not a preferred / safe way to flash the rom.
Just hold your horses. we will have a recovery soon, and like i said in the other thread, then you can do what you want with your money. But i assure you, we will have a lot in store for the users once that hurdle is passed.
Umm... get donations from the d1 and d2 work that you've already done, buy a Fascinate, create ROMs for that, and THEN (if it's a halfway decent job) people will donate without you even needing to ask them. Why ask people to pay for something that you haven't even done yet but then reassure them it'll happen because of your other work? If what you did with the d1/2 is good then shouldn't you be able to get donations from that? I'm not accusing you of trying to scam people I'm just telling you what seems to make the most sense.
I agree with everyone else why not use the donations from your other devices to get the Fascinate then when you make a rom that is as amazing as you say people will donate and you will come out on top. Yes I have seen your work as I have had several droids and my wife has a droid2. Have you seen Cyanogen's work? Or how about the other cooks? Why should we buy you a phone and not them? I have donated to lots of cooks but never before a product was available and not even a promise of first beta tests or anything, no deadline? Come on, man! Like the other member said would you pay mercedes (we have all seen there work ) money to build a factory on the promise that when it is done being built they will give you a car that may or may not be to your liking. I have to say your other roms werent my taste but they were very good. Having said that I am looking forward to donating once roms are available, nothing personal I have nothing against your screen name which is really all I see it just has to do with my own preference.
On another note I remember when this actually resembled an open source community (i.e. the linux community) I googled your name and every single forum there is something with you asking for donations, I understand you have to call them donations because of the license but lets face it you are selling products. Thats not really what opensource is about.
Sorry for the rant everyone, no hard feelings
erasmogjr said:
I agree with everyone else why not use the donations from your other devices to get the Fascinate then when you make a rom that is as amazing as you say people will donate and you will come out on top. Yes I have seen your work as I have had several droids and my wife has a droid2. Have you seen Cyanogen's work? Or how about the other cooks? Why should we buy you a phone and not them? I have donated to lots of cooks but never before a product was available and not even a promise of first beta tests or anything, no deadline? Come on, man! Like the other member said would you pay mercedes (we have all seen there work ) money to build a factory on the promise that when it is done being built they will give you a car that may or may not be to your liking. I have to say your other roms werent my taste but they were very good. Having said that I am looking forward to donating once roms are available, nothing personal I have nothing against your screen name which is really all I see it just has to do with my own preference.
On another note I remember when this actually resembled an open source community (i.e. the linux community) I googled your name and every single forum there is something with you asking for donations, I understand you have to call them donations because of the license but lets face it you are selling products. Thats not really what opensource is about.
Sorry for the rant everyone, no hard feelings
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Are you serious? I only started asking for donations like a week or two ago and I have been developing roms for a few months.
I'm just excited we're close to seeing some dev work. I wholeheartedly believe in donation as a support system for development. I do not however donate to theory.
I will be throwing some paypal love once I see some good dev work on here.
Matt4542 said:
Are you serious? I only started asking for donations like a week or two ago and I have been developing roms for a few months.
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Matt, Don't take this the wrong way. I do think you're a good and honest developer based on comments i've read on the ROM you've done on Droid. I've been around this forum for a long time and have given my hard earned cash to many worthy developers and others. Donations typically are to support a website, finance a developer for his time, and/or buy hardware needed, etc... This forum has changed a bit in the last decade and some here may not understand how this all works. We do this as either an investment or a reward. Reputation is everything though. And that is why some here are hammering you.
Since you're new to us, if you don't mind, introduce yourself, tell us your skillsets, tell us what you bring to the table? Alot of us are tech heads and would appreciate that.
This website changed once Android became popular. The WinMo community was smaller and calmer. Android has blown everything up.
orateam said:
Matt, Don't take this the wrong way. I do think you're a good and honest developer based on comments i've read on the ROM you've done on Droid. I've been around this forum for a long time and have given my hard earned cash to many worthy developers and others. Donations typically are to support a website, finance a developer for his time, and/or buy hardware needed, etc... This forum has changed a bit in the last decade and some here may not understand how this all works. We do this as either an investment or a reward. Reputation is everything though. And that is why some here are hammering you.
Since you're new to us, if you don't mind, introduce yourself, tell us your skillsets, tell us what you bring to the table? Alot of us are tech heads and would appreciate that.
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ludeboy said:
This website changed once Android became popular. The WinMo community was smaller and calmer. Android has blown everything up.
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eh, i remember a lot of drama going on in the CDMA forums all the time. We had chefs that would rip off of other chefs and claim it as their own just to get more donations / money for their "work"
I have never asked for donations, as the work i do is to better my own phone so why not help everyone else? I just started posting a link to make a donation to world vision in my new posts, because if people are willing to donate, why not have them donate to a great cause?
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I have never asked for donations, as the work i do is to better my own phone so why not help everyone else? I just started posting a link to make a donation to world vision in my new posts, because if people are willing to donate, why not have them donate to a great cause?
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The good ol pocket PC days. Trying to make WinMo 5 act like a reasonable touchscreen interface. I remember using the kitchens to experiment and make my own custom ROM's. We all made windows CE registry tweaks to do all kinds of things. Windows was easier to program for. I had many custom programs that i openly shared directly with users (M$ didn't like us sharing). I hope Android users get that this is simply a labor of love for us hobbyists. If i wanted a phone i wouldn't customize much but had a lot of features, i'd stay with the iPhone. I've been playing with APPDeveloper to get my feet wet, and soon will have some custom programs myself once i get off it and transfer to eclipse coding.
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Matt..
How much will it take for you to get a phone to use for development? now that we have a recovery available......