If I do so decide to update my ROM to any other version, will I still be able to restore everything with sprite backup?
I'm talking about - SMS, Contacts, Programs, General settings and tweaks, Documents and Files, etc.
Yes, you will be able to restore all of your information. Just make sure you use the option to update onto a different ROM. I recommend SPB Backup since you can choose not to backup the system files, which just makes things simpler. I'm not sure if you can do that with sprite backup.
Hope that helps
Antzor said:
I'm talking about - SMS, Contacts, Programs, General settings and tweaks, Documents and Files, etc.
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SMS,Contacts & other PIMs , DotFred pimBackup is the best & easy.
Docs & Files, just copy to SD.
General settings & tweaks, I doubt it will completely work.
Just my 2ยข
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Am i right in thinking that these 2 programs are essentially the same (with the exception that PIM backup is independently developed, and freeware, whereas Sprite Backup is commercial software + not free) ?
Can PIM backup do things that Sprite backup cannot?
Just wondering, as i got Spite Backup bundled with my Kaiser.
Thanks!
PIM Backup
PIM Backup, only backup for Contact, Calendar (appointment), To do, Task, Massages (SMS).
Spritebackup could do everything PIM Backup do, Plus all setting System (include register) and all software have been installed.
PIM backup allows PIM information to be transferred across different operating systems and different devices.
I can transfer my Agenda Fusion appointments from my HTC X7500/WM6 to my IPAQ 2755/WM2003 with no problem.
Using Sprite to do any of that will give completely unreliable (or no) results.
Both are good programs, Sprite backup is awsome though
Your phone's databases are .pim files hence the name PIM backup. As stated above it only backs up and restores these pim files. Sprite backup backs up everything as described above as well. The reason for my post is to correct nrm (post above this one). Sprite backup can restore to different devices. When you are restoring you have to specify what type of restore you want to run (level 1-3). Also you can manually specify what you want to restore. If you just want to restore your personal data (PIM databases) you can select just this. So Sprite can do exactly what pim can do but so much more. One down side to sprite is that the version I am running (v.6.5.4) is not compatible with WM6.5 or WM7. I havent bothered to even check if they have a new version out that is compatible. Sprite still works with these newer versions of Windows Mobile but M$ has changed the format of the above mentioned databases (files on root of device with .pim extension) and it will not back them up. So until there is a new compatible version of sprite backup you will need to use pim to backup your databases and you can still use sprite to backup everything else.
And what about Spb Backup?
I've tried them both. PIM Backup is great for the Contact/Calendar/Task/Message backup, and I have been able to backup and restore across WM5/WM6/WM6.5 ROMs. I've tried an older version of Sprite and it had some problem restoring the Contact/Calendar/etc. Perhaps this problem goes away for the newer version.
Sprite Backup is great for automatically backing up the entire device including files and settings. When I hard reset because I messed something up, Sprite makes it very easy to do a complete restore. When you are changing ROMs I take a more manual approach.
I backup the entire device using Sprite Backup to get all the files and settings on the device (just in case I forget anything). Using Total Commander, I zip up the following folders: Start Menu, Windows (just the files installed since the flash like Titanium CPR files and any file installed programs might save here), Program Files, Applicaton Data, My Documents, and Root folder. I also backup HKCU\Software and HKLM\Software registry entries. I copy those reg backup files to my computer and use a text editor to delete all entries that might cause a conflict (typically all HTC, Microsoft, IA Style, OEM folders).
Then when I need to change ROMs I have all the files and registries to get my device back on my feet very quickly. I don't have to reinstall all my software, nor go thru e-mails to find registration keys, or re-do each programs' settings. Most of their settings are stored in the registry, so its a very easy upgrade.
I haven't tried a recent version of Sprite. They may have improved the upgrading feature between ROMs and have better support for WM6.5 so my need to manually backup and edit registry entries might be already done automatically by Sprite.
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And what about Spb Backup?
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SPB Backup is better than Sprite... but PIM Backup is essential so you can backup your PIM from to time to time easily.
TheRem said:
SPB Backup is better than Sprite... but PIM Backup is essential so you can backup your PIM from to time to time easily.
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I agree but with spb you can also schedule backup's and choice only pim data.
yup but you can't separate the contacts, tasks and appointments in SPB Backup.
all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
there's an option in SPB Backup (Customize Restore)... in System Data, you can uncheck Restore Registry.
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yup but you can't separate the contacts, tasks and appointments in SPB Backup.
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I agree, but is it usefull?
Ok folks, great input, but to tell you the truth, I would say you need both.
PIM Backup + your favorite backup program (I use SPB Backup) but have used Sprite as well.
Personally I will backup using SPB before I make a major change or test a Beta program just and sometimes (once a week if I have done any updates/installation of new software).
But, anytime I add any really important contacts/appts/tasks I will use PIM backup as well in case I decide to change my ROM (I usually just do a manual install of the cabs I want).
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all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
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The last spb Backup version detects if you have a new rom installed and suggests a special restore for same device but different rom. It has worked very well for me when flashing new roms.
is it possible with one of these software to transfer sms from an older device to a new one without deleting sms stored on my new device..
I'm not sure I'm clear here
I have a tytn2 with thousand of messages that I want to keep
I have a tp2 with some messages that I want to merge with the old tytn2's messages.
don't want to erase everything accidentaly, please give me an advice
use PIM Backup to backup your sms on the tytn2 , then copy PIM Backup and the backup file to your tp2 , and restore the file on the tp2.
it will let you choose how to restore each item , overwrite existing info or just merge them~ keep an eye on it ,overwriting is by default
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all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
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The advantage of SPB Backup is that you can choose to restore to a new ROM and so it does not overwrite the new system files and registries. I always use it after flashing a new ROM and it works very nicely.
I only recently discovered this myself, but pim backup can do quite a bit more than just backup pim.vol and cemail.vol. It also has a custom file backup, which is a wonderful feature and is very easy and intuitive to use. If you uncheck "binary", you can easily access the individual files (change backup extension from .pib to .zip). You can backup individual files or entire directories (like application data). It's well worth checking out. Just highlight "Custom" then click the 'Options' button to get going on it.
I have added a few apps to my phone but before I get into changing rom should I back up phone? Whats a good app to back up phone and what do you do..backup phone when its working before adding a bunch of apps then after its all done can you do another back up??
Let me know
I downloaded advanced config tools and did 3 different cache changes that were reccomended to speed it up or something..so I decided to do it and tweaked mine.. Should I not back up now b/c of doing that??
you can use sprite backup
For me, i always, loose all programs after reset, it cleans out old junk i no longer use. But in case i need some save files or backup files for some programs, yes i do a backup for those.
Other than that, you should backup your contacts, call logs, messages, if needed. Best program to do all the above is PIM Backup, its a wonderful free tool that does the job PERFECTLY.
EnergyROM always has PIM Backup in it, which btw is the best ROM out there. Every time i want to place a new EnergyROM, i first do a backup of what i need, then flash then run PIM Backup again and restore. All done in less than 3 minutes
Cheers mate
Closing thread guys,
There are plenty of applications out to the public on backing up your pda.
Also this is an area for rom development.
Peace,
Joshua
Hi Guys
I have a sg2
I'm a bit of a newbie forgive me i am coming from the dark apple side.
When you guys are flashing custom roms onto the phones e.g cyanogenmod
I assume your previous stock firmware stuff gets wiped
e.g. installed programs , settings, contacts, calenders . music & videos.
What do you guys do as a work around, how do u back things up and migrate your stuff across.
I'm not to concerned about programs & music files as those are a simple drag & drop from your pc, and copy & reinstall.
But what about Intricate settings e.g. alarm clock definitions, brightness , ringtone levels, wifi that sort of things
are they backed up & migrated when you change ROMS, do you use any special android software.
or do you just start again from scratch.
thanks in advance
harlzden
You can backup your settings and everything before installing another rom. Few apps for that. One i use is called titanium backup. you wipe / install a new rom, run titanium backup and restore all your data and settings.
Cheers Shabs
for the quick reply
does the backup also do those space hoggers e.g. Android App, Music files, Video files
or do you avoid these and backup these up manually,
reason i ask is samsung kies does a all in one backup , but its awfully slow !!!
works best just for the settings, space hoggers files must be unticked in kies to backup
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Cheers Shabs
for the quick reply
does the backup also do those space hoggers e.g. Android App, Music files, Video files
or do you avoid these and backup these up manually,
reason i ask is samsung kies does a all in one backup , but its awfully slow !!!
works best just for the settings, space hoggers files must be unticked in kies to backup
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As far as I know you can choose just to backup settings. You could also use something like MyBackup Pro which is what I used coming from the HTC Desire.
all android phones i've used, google backs up most everything for you. when you first start up the device, checkbox for backup to google servers is an option.
so when i start from scratch on a ROM, google restores my settings, wifi access points and password, wallpaper, all apps are restored from market free and paid, etc. the only thing not restored is call logs and texts, and of course specific app data.
for that stuff, most people use titanium backup.
I'm on stock 2.2 KB5 modem considering to flash BiWinning. Want to understand if the KB5 modem is better than the KB1 ?
Also let me know if following things are possible
1. BiWinning +kb5 modem ?
2. BiWinning + Voodoo enabled
Also want to understand how do i backup and restore. I understand there are many apps like titanium, nandroid etc. But never understood how do i restore them.
Things for Backup:
1. Contacts, call logs, sms, emails
2. Apps and their settings and data stored in apps
3. music and video files, pics
Also how does the google account work. Does this backup all data related to apps?
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I'm on stock 2.2 KB5 modem considering to flash BiWinning. Want to understand if the KB5 modem is better than the KB1 ?
Also let me know if following things are possible
1. BiWinning +kb5 modem ?
2. BiWinning + Voodoo enabled
Also want to understand how do i backup and restore. I understand there are many apps like titanium, nandroid etc. But never understood how do i restore them.
Things for Backup:
1. Contacts, call logs, sms, emails
2. Apps and their settings and data stored in apps
3. music and video files, pics
Also how does the google account work. Does this backup all data related to apps?
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Biwinning and kb5 and vodoo is fine.
Google or aka gmail will back up your contacts.
Titanium Back up will back up your apps and settings {setting on a new rom could give you force close} apps will be fine
Music video and pics should be copied to your computer just in case.
Nandroid back up the rom your currently on.
Heres a good tip as well. Move the backups from the phone to either the external sd card or(preferably)PC. If anything happens and you have to wipe or ODIN you will lose everything in the internal sd(phone) including backups. Simply move the backup folder from each respective location. For example nandroid backups default location is /sdcard/clockworkmod/backups/ browse to there and copy/paste to external source. All backups will will default to internal sd card somewhere with a similar location. Any contacts saved to gmail will sync automatically when you open market so this is not necessary. Good luck!
After the search through the forum I haven't found a good answer for this question.
I'm preparing for rooting my Desire Z.
I have to downgrade - everything will be lost.
As everyone knows I CAN'T use Titanium backup.
So which backup app you would suggest to use?
I need the perfect restore of settings and apps after the root.
I've looked for some of the apps but I can only say something about the interfaces:
My backup pro - simple interface. Allows to backup "data" (whatever it means) and "applications and media" (not sure if this means widgets too, not sure what does media mean)
Backup Master/B] - nice interface. Lets to choose between: sms, mms, bookmarks, call log, system setting, alarms, apn, application (does it mean widgets too?). This would be the app to go if it works 100% well.
App Backup and reinstall - lists all of the apps. You can chose which one to back up. Seems to backup apps and games only.
So as you see the choice would be quite easy (Backup Everything). However does it work perfectly well? Does it backup widgets too?
May be you would suggest any other app?
i dont think there's any app tht allows u to backup everything without being rooted. but
titanium backup is the way to go after you have.
For those who have the same question.
I had to give the phone to service, so I've backed up the phone using Backup Master.
As I anticipated they have upgraded my system to 2.42 WITHOUT ASKING ME for approval.
The result:
Cons:
1. Some of the apps have not been restored. They've just shown during restore but didn't install.
2. The process was not hands free. I had to confirm reinstalling each app.
3. No settings in the backuped apps have been restored.
4. Phone book wasn't restored.
5. No settings in the launcher or the system were restored.
6. No settings of such apps like Tasker or MS Folder Note has been restored (you have to back up your personal data and your notes from the level of these apps).
Pros:
1. Sms and mms history was restored properly.
2. Call log has been restored properly
2. Most of the apps have been reinstalled.
So as you see you can restore more or less the system bu you will spend hours on setting up the settings back again.