Chargers. Does this need the USB pin mod like the Kaiser? - Touch HD Accessories

Hi all,
I'm not sure how many of you came from using a HTC Kaiser/TYTN II, but that phone wouldn't charge with many car chargers, since it expects that pin 4 of the USB cable should be grounded (with pin5). The charger that comes with it has a grounded pin 4, but many in-car USB chargers don't.
My question is: Will the blackstone charge off a car charger that does NOT have the pin 4 grounded?
Thanks!

I've been using an ordinary USB cable charger at work (I keep the original charger at home) and it seems to work fine. I mean, it didn't catch fire and all.

no it doesnt have the same problem as the Tytn's.
"it didn't catch fire and all" wtf?

Thankyou for the update. I was planning to manually modify my cables. Glad to not have to now.

I bought what must have been the lowest cost charger on the high street - £6 from Halfords, it comes with attachments for pretty much every phone and I can use it on both my TYTN II and My Touch HD with out any mods.
Its not the prettiest as the extension for multi connections is a little long and does not bend or twist, but it works.

frustin said:
"it didn't catch fire and all" wtf?
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Oh you know, with all the fuss about batteries catching fires these days, I was half-expecting it to burn up.

Saros said:
Oh you know, with all the fuss about batteries catching fires these days, I was half-expecting it to burn up.
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The charging electronic is inside the phone, no smart charger is needed for the phones.
The only issue with those pin short were, that the phone detects if it is charged from a charger or hookup to a pc (500mA) max.

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Kensington Power Adapter

I found a very nice & Slim universal charger on Kensington's site for Notebook, PSP, Ipod (yes I have all this stuff in my backpack...), but a tip for hermes seems to be missing.
Does anybody now a similr device with Hermes tip too?
TX
Basically anything with a mini-USB plug will work.
That's not been my experience. If it connects something to the data pins it will work, if not, it won't charge correctly.
I used my old Motorola V3 wall charger to charge mine for a while, worked fine - thats a standard mini-USB connection. Also used a Motorola V3 car charger, and I've just bought a Brodit car cradle for my device which has a fixed mini-USB which works fine?
KevinBaker said:
I used my old Motorola V3 wall charger to charge mine for a while, worked fine - thats a standard mini-USB connection. Also used a Motorola V3 car charger, and I've just bought a Brodit car cradle for my device which has a fixed mini-USB which works fine?
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Interesting. We've found that unless the charger has pins 4 and 5 bridged ('unused pin' to 'ground') on the mini usb end then the hermes will act strangely. It will start charging the first time you insert but then it might stop and then it won't charge again until you reset it.
The pin doesnt need to be bridged when theres a data source like a pc on the other the end.
Could you check to see if your chargers have those pins bridged or not?
icemantwilight said:
Interesting. We've found that unless the charger has pins 4 and 5 bridged ('unused pin' to 'ground') on the mini usb end then the hermes will act strangely. It will start charging the first time you insert but then it might stop and then it won't charge again until you reset it.
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I have not been doing any kind of research about bridging those pins because I just read about it first time, but my experience about charging problems are very similar to yours. My TyTN won't charge normally via USB-hub or car-adaptor, and after failing the charging process, it won't start charging again. Resetting helps after this, but I think that also waiting resets the situation. But that I'm not so sure about.
When I connect it directly to PC, it works just fine.
If bridging those pins helps, my car charging problems are wiped out
rantanplannet said:
If bridging those pins helps, my car charging problems are wiped out
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Hahah not really, ever tried getting to those pins? They're tiny!
icemantwilight said:
Hahah not really, ever tried getting to those pins? They're tiny!
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Yes, they are tiny at the other end, but bigger at the other
And if that causes still problems, cutting the wire is not so big deal either, then you can easily connect wires together
rantanplannet said:
Yes, they are tiny at the other end, but bigger at the other
And if that causes still problems, cutting the wire is not so big deal either, then you can easily connect wires together
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Except that pin 4 doesn't have a wire connected to it (only 1,2,3,5) because the other end only has 4 pins
icemantwilight said:
Except that pin 4 doesn't have a wire connected to it (only 1,2,3,5) because the other end only has 4 pins
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Damn .. then it's not so easy.
But I guess it's still possible, without totally breaking the plug. I hope ...
Interesting. That is exactly the issues I see using a 12V/USB adapter and cable in my car. Well hopefully in 2-3 months when my free vehicle charger comes from Cingular it will have the pins bridged and work properly!!!!
I wonder if the bridged pins and data cause the bluetooth to turn off after a period of time. I see that happen on my phone often when its connected and charging. But disconnected from the 12V/USB charger the BT stays on.
Thanks for testing and posting.
I had this exact problem with my m5000 to, i use a ipod battery extender as a backup for my m3100 as i regularaly find the need for extra power.
Quick work around for this problem is to power down completely by holding the power button. Then plug it in while turned off, wait for charging light to go orange then switch back on, will continue charging then until plug is removed.
HTH
V3
So, I don't understand: in the end, does it work or not with an adapter for V3?
If yes I could by that...
TX
If it helps any, I use an iGo universal power adaptor (available from Radio Shack and Expansys) which uses the iTips style device-specific tips. This is very similar to the Kensington system, although I believe the two are now incompatible.
Tip A53 (which is also designed for AudioVox phones) works well for me with my T-Mobile MDA Vario II.
http://www.igo.com/

need a replacement charger for laptop dock

picked up a laptop dock without charger. What are the charger specs/ replacement? Is there a compatible generic charger available.
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You can use one similar to the IPhone USB/AC adapter. Been using it at work and no problems. Basically any Micro USB/AC charger will work. But stay away from the AT&T adapter. I bought it and when my phone is plugged into that adapter, the touch screen is sketchy, ie acts flaky and buzzes around my head and stuff.
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You can use one similar to the IPhone USB/AC adapter. Been using it at work and no problems. Basically any Micro USB/AC charger will work. But stay away from the AT&T adapter. I bought it and when my phone is plugged into that adapter, the touch screen is sketchy, ie acts flaky and buzzes around my head and stuff.
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for the laptop dock? I think its more of a power brick adapter design, right?
You are right, didn't correctly read the original post. Ignore my suggestion.
Here you are.
I know radio shack has versatile AC transformers with interchangeable heads. Ask and they can probably assist you. Good luck,
-omni
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thanks. Motorola said they are sending me a replacement.
Can you share some info...
A.VOID said:
thanks. Motorola said they are sending me a replacement.
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Hey can you tell me what number you called and how much they are charging for one? I have the same thing bought the dock but missing the power cord and Im having trouble finding one. Thanks..:good:
Nevermind
Nevermind . i went to the Motorola web site used their chat and they are sending me a free adapter as a one time courtesy. Thanks for the info.:good:

be careful with your charger cables!

not sure if this justifies a topic of its own but i have kind of wrecked my hp charger cable by using it to charge my phone
i can only assume that the socket on my htc incredible S is tighter or something because the micro usb end wiggles around so much in my touchpad now it doesnt maintain a connection unless i apply pressure in a certain direction!
so just to let you all know, its probably best to keep your hp cable for your touchpad!
Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
Varemenos said:
Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
darkassain said:
huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
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I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
wonshikee said:
I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
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cant argue with that totally agree with the touchstone, oh if the tp was able to pull 2 amps that way though..
Varemenos said:
Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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A switching mode power supply (pretty much all newer chargers) will put out its rated voltage as long as the current draw is equal to or less than its max spec. There is a slight variation between chargers output voltage but a few tenths of a volt won't do any damage.
I have charged all sorts of devices using the TP charger without issue. My Sansa Clip using a miniUSB cord, my Droid 3 using the HP cord. The microUSB plug is a standard so ports should be the same on all devices, but I really like miniUSB better. It seems like a more robust connection than micro which feels too small and flimsy.
My charger has a usb socket so I was able to swap out the micro usb charger - can you not do that?
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oh yea, obv i can just change the cable, and quite cheaply, but was just letting people know that the slot on the touchpad must be quite big relative to other devices (though i can only vouch for my incredible S).
i'll have to buy a new cable now, though - no biggy
Sand down those spiked nibs that are supposed to hold the cable in place, they are too big to be needed and cause extra wear and tear on the units usb socket.
Taking them down to about 50% size and making them not so sharp gives the cable a good fit where it wont come out easy but its not like pulling teeth.
I learned this with my N900 lots of users did it, and now I noticed the touchpad had the same kind of fit and cable, so I consider this a necessity if you want to prolong the life of your device and minimize the possibility of something happening like what happened to the OP, atleast for him it was the cable that gave out and not the micro sub port on his TP.
my cable stopped working a while ago so im just using my samsung and htc cable,samsung cable is a real nice fit better than the TP one.
The supplied TP cable is just a flimsy POS. I've bought dollar store cables that were higher quality.
I use the TP charger and the cable that came with my phone to charge both devices. I've been doing it for months with no ill effects to the phone.
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Micro USB is a horrid and fragile setup to begin with.
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yup my usb cable doesnt work anymore. I accidentally tripped over it lol
LOL good thing i bought 3 HP touchpad chargers over the weekend.
I actually lost the stock one.. so i 'stocked' up... just in case
Just FYI, the default AC adapter that comes with the TP has two parts.
The front part rotates to separate it from the base, if it's rotated a bit - it won't charge, so double check that the front (where the prongs are) are tightened properly.
Mine's developed the same fault using it on my Galaxy S2, it's now loose on all devices and I had to throw it away. I just think the quality's poor.
The HP cable for my TP stopped charging the device too, got in touch with support and a day later I received a shiny new replacement cable which *isn't* loose
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my usb cable stopped working too (yesterday).
Well, it works but i need to hold the cable in a particular way or it stops.
Did any of you buy a replacement? if ya which one.
Hmmm, I got the touchstone and haven't used the USB since, unless plugging in to the computer to move an update.zip over. Still tight fit, and with rom I'm running touchstone seems to charge the same as the actual charger that came with touchpad.
It is actually a fact that the stock USB cables are of poor quality. So ultimately its not your fault if it goes bad. Just use another micro USB cable (even cheap ones you find at the convenience stores works great) to charge your touchpad. I've been using my micro USB which came with my phone to charge my touchpad and I must say its a perfect fit for the touchpad.

[Q] Rezound Cable

Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
krelvinaz said:
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
Prefader said:
That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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[Q] Car mount with fixed USB charger HELP

Hi Guys,
I'm looking for a car dock for my Nexus 6 similar to the pro clip or this fix2car mount http://www.holdersandmounts.co.uk/f...on-mount-dash-mount-with-usb-car-charger.html[1]
Basically my criteria are that I want to be able to take the phone in and out of the mount without having to attach the USB cable after. I want the USB cable to be fixed and the phone simply slides in to it.
The pro clip would cost me 150$+ and the fix2car one I linked would run me close to 70$. I'm looking for something about half that price.
Hope you guys can help!
Thanks
0 replies on XDA and on reddit, something tells me i'm about to drop a hundred bucks on a car mount... AGAIN!
PSA to anyone thinking about it: DO NOT get the airdock 2, it's a piece of poop and the phone falls off constantly.
If you must have the fixed plug, you could hack one in place with some JB Weld. A lot of guys did just that back in the "old" days.
Or suguru, that stuff works great for something like this. BTW, my airdock works great.
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If you would like to charge your phone in a car dock without having to attach USB each time why don't you get the QI charging dock? It is about $35-$40 here in US, probably about same in UK. And will work with non-bulky case.
EugeneR said:
If you would like to charge your phone in a car dock without having to attach USB each time why don't you get the QI charging dock? It is about $35-$40 here in US, probably about same in UK. And will work with non-bulky case.
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welllllllll the reason why im trying to avoid a QI charging dock (which btw is not a make or model but the technology, can you specify which model you're referring to?) is because i bought this neato quick charge usb lighter thingy and i'd like to be able to use quick charge..... wireless QI charging is pretty slow and when having the screen on, and steaming music, and using maps for nav, it doesn't actually gain any charge!
three west said:
Or suguru, that stuff works great for something like this. BTW, my airdock works great.
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sugru is 22 american. add shipping, conversion to canadian dollar, and duties and it comes out to a lot thanks for the suggestion, though.
i think i am going with this:
http://www.lightinthebox.com/imobi4...ger-for-motorola-google-nexus-6_p2642248.html
georgeism said:
i think i am going with this:
http://www.lightinthebox.com/imobi4...ger-for-motorola-google-nexus-6_p2642248.html
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Nice find! I didn't know anyone made one like that for our Nexus 6.
georgeism said:
welllllllll the reason why im trying to avoid a QI charging dock (which btw is not a make or model but the technology, can you specify which model you're referring to?) is because i bought this neato quick charge usb lighter thingy and i'd like to be able to use quick charge..... wireless QI charging is pretty slow and when having the screen on, and steaming music, and using maps for nav, it doesn't actually gain any charge!
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Well, I am doing the same, streaming and navigating, with Nexus 6 in the dock, using 2.1A USB lighter thingy and it charges.
I am also aware QI is a technology and not a model. There are quite few of those. I am using this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N4H1R1M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01
EugeneR said:
Well, I am doing the same, streaming and navigating, with Nexus 6 in the dock, using 2.1A USB lighter thingy and it charges.
I am also aware QI is a technology and not a model. There are quite few of those. I am using this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N4H1R1M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01
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the problem is that QI will bottleneck your charging. using a quickcharge usb lighter thing will work via a cable but not through QI!
QI will support up to 15 watts of charging in the future, it was actually announced like a couple of weeks ago or something, so future models will support quick charging
I have quick charger at work and at home. In the car I need the dock I can use with minimum effort and without connecting/disconnecting USB frequently
georgeism said:
i think i am going with this:
http://www.lightinthebox.com/imobi4...ger-for-motorola-google-nexus-6_p2642248.html
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Curious to know if you got the holder yet?
From the pictures on the site, it appears that one of the claws on the top lands directly on the power and/or volume buttons.
Would like to know if it interferes with proper operation?
uicnren said:
Curious to know if you got the holder yet?
From the pictures on the site, it appears that one of the claws on the top lands directly on the power and/or volume buttons.
Would like to know if it interferes with proper operation?
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it can if you have it completely tightened down, but you would not be able to pull the phone in and out if it was tightened down. the way i have it now is the clamp holds on to the lip of the phone but not so tightly that I can't easily put the phone in and out of the dock. The clamp does not press on the buttons, this way.

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