I have a titan on the Cellular South network, small carrier mainly in mississippi. I want to try upgrading my rom, however I do not want to make the same mistake I made with my Palm 700wx. I would like to make a backup copy of the stock rom in case things don't work out and I need to reinstall it. I have searched heavy for backup procedures with no luck. All I have found is recommending saving the ESPT settings. I have copied some, but am not sure what all I need. Any guideance would be appreciated!
not much help or cooperation out here on the 6800; I must say the communication is much better when I was working on my palm 700wx on this site.
I'm a noob, but I too have searched heavily about how to backup the stock ROM/radio, but to no avail. If you want to try better ROM's on the TITAN, I believe from all the reading I have done that the best option is...
SPL: nueSPL247(unlocks the phone)
ROM: dcd3.2.6
RADIO: 3.42.50(GPS enabled0
also no2chem puts out nueROM which is presently up to nueROM3 (for a small donation, it can be yours).
You can also get the complete kitchen from ppckitchen.org
Good luck. If you have any success upgrading your phone, please post it here. I too am on a small local carrier probably in a boat similar to you.
stock roms are available usually on htc's site...
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stock roms are available usually on htc's site...
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Yeah, but only if you are with a major carrier to the best of my knowledge. Those of us with tier 2 carriers don't get to enjoy that benefit. That is why we constantly want to know how to extract the ROMs from our phone. That way we too could try other ROMs and restore to our carriers ROM if we cannot get it working.
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stock roms are available usually on htc's site...
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Yeah, with my Palm I could get Cellular South stock rom; however I have not seen it on the HTC website.
I would like to test with my Titan, however I would like to have my stock rom saved to fall back on if need be. There has to be a pretty straight forward method to backup/save your stock rom; I just haven't been able to get my hands on it!
Someone that makes/mods ROMs might be able to help you with dumping your stock rom. The names that come to mind are scrosler, dcd, and gc14. Bitserve took over scrosler's ROM so might have some idea as well.
I apologize to those mentioned above if you get unwanted attention now.
cellular south 6800
I have a cellular south 6800 and hacked it up a while back. All cell south 6800's run a stock sprint rom and just had the names on it changed to cellular south. Cell south actually bought them from Sprint then just rebadged them. You can download the stock sprint rom that is on them from sprint or from here on the forums somewhere (found it in another post a while back). Because of this I did not make a backup of mine before I changed it. I did run into minor problems during the change but only because I lost my epst settings and did not make a good backup of them before I started. I just copied what I needed off a friends 6800.
Backup your epst setting by writting ALL of them down then put nuerom2.4.7 on it and you are good to go. Write down the rom version that is listed in epst. If you ever need to go back you just load up the stock sprint rom.
Thank you greatly for your response; I have been reading and searching for days to resolve this.
Have a Great Day!
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I have a cellular south 6800 and hacked it up a while back. All cell south 6800's run a stock sprint rom and just had the names on it changed to cellular south. Cell south actually bought them from Sprint then just rebadged them. You can download the stock sprint rom that is on them from sprint or from here on the forums somewhere (found it in another post a while back). Because of this I did not make a backup of mine before I changed it. I did run into minor problems during the change but only because I lost my epst settings and did not make a good backup of them before I started. I just copied what I needed off a friends 6800.
Backup your epst setting by writting ALL of them down then put nuerom2.4.7 on it and you are good to go. Write down the rom version that is listed in epst. If you ever need to go back you just load up the stock sprint rom.
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imabnormal said:
I have a cellular south 6800 and hacked it up a while back. All cell south 6800's run a stock sprint rom and just had the names on it changed to cellular south. Cell south actually bought them from Sprint then just rebadged them. You can download the stock sprint rom that is on them from sprint or from here on the forums somewhere (found it in another post a while back). Because of this I did not make a backup of mine before I changed it. I did run into minor problems during the change but only because I lost my epst settings and did not make a good backup of them before I started. I just copied what I needed off a friends 6800.
Backup your epst setting by writting ALL of them down then put nuerom2.4.7 on it and you are good to go. Write down the rom version that is listed in epst. If you ever need to go back you just load up the stock sprint rom.
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If you've worked with CellSouth phones, maybe you can help me. I updated my phone using the Sprint ROM now available on HTC's web site. I messed up, left the phone unattended, and when I got back, my daughter had performed the steps that let the Sprint authorization take place. So I have a Sprint-inized phone. I've got it working, but it keeps changing my dialer settings to a Sprint PCS dialer that won't allow me to save the user name and password.
I need to get back to the stock ROM, but I can't find one. I do find the 2.17 for a Sprint, but the radio ROM is lower than the 1.69 that was on the phone.
Or, I need to know if I can flash another ROM, keeping the current radio.
The original device info:
ROM 2.17.557.0
ROM Date 11/20/07
Radio Version: 1.69.00
Protocol Ver: ACAAAAM-4070
Hardware Ver: 0003
PRL Version: 10002
PRI Version: 1.34_013
It was running WM6.0
The new Device info:
ROM Version 3.56.651.0
ROM Date 06/16/08
Radio Version 3.42.02
Protocol Ver. DCAAXAM-4350H
Hardware Ver. 0003
PRL Version 10002
PRI Version 2.04_003
WM 6.1
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Or, I need to know if I can flash another ROM, keeping the current radio.
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I am not with your carrier but I can answer this part. If you have the correct spl 2.40 or 2.47 then yes you can flash the roms here and it will leave the radio alone.
Thanks!
So that means no locking, reverting to stock, then flashing.. just flashing the new?
In the mean time, I was able to load the Telus carrier Cab from DCD and it gave me a modem that I can edit. So, I'm able to do my data connection without headaches.
If I could get the Sprint apps off of it, things probably would be cool. But there seems to be people getting better GPS results and cooler apps with other ROMS. So, maybe I'll give one of them a try.
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Can someone please provide the HOW-TO restore back to the original Radio Version, original Locker or unlocker and original software available at HTC. (The files would be enough and a brief walkthrough) - I was able to change to 2.2.61 and it works fine but I am going to sell to someone and want them to have the original ROM so no issues will arise. Thanks for all your help!!
No Takers?
No suggestions?
a little more info please
Need to know what carrier your unit is for. If Sprint then it is pretty easy, but Verizon will require a little care as the files are not on the utstar page and the ones I have for it are untested as I have not tried the rollback.
so if we go to custom rom/radio with an unlocker all we have to do is reflash the sprint rom if we are on sprint?
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so if we go to custom rom/radio with an unlocker all we have to do is reflash the sprint rom if we are on sprint?
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Yes.. the Sprint ROM's available are complete ROM's with IPL, SPL, Radio, OS, ExtRom, etc. The Verizon ROM's are not available anywhere! Someone over at PPCGeeks claimed to be a Verizon Tech and said even they didn't have the software (which contradicts a user report where they say they walked into Verizon and walked out with a newly flashed XV6800). The available Verizon ROM's namely VZW_2.09_RUU_Signed.NBH is an OS only ROM. It's even got a CID of SPCS_100 which is wrong. IIRC Verizon has a CID of VZW__001.
Anyway, I bricked a XV6800 the other day because I didn't downgrade the radio before running TitanRelocker. The bootloader would not accept any NBH's except the Sprint ship ROM which of course would not load because the Vendor ID didn't match. If you have an XV6800 you should be a little more careful with updating the ROM's since we do not have an easy rollback method like Sprint users do!
Sprint!
Figured it out! Thanks it was a Sprint - Now I feel more comfortable trying different rom's out there...
It's hard to find much information about flashing a Qwest 6800. Since it is on the Sprint network, could I just flash my phone with the Sprint directions and the Sprint ROM or do changes have to be made to it first?
Thanks for your help.
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It's hard to find much information about flashing a Qwest 6800. Since it is on the Sprint network, could I just flash my phone with the Sprint directions and the Sprint ROM or do changes have to be made to it first?
Thanks for your help.
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if you want a custom rom, i think qwest provider is a choice in my kitchen, if not ill add it.
That would be great. I'm a bit worried to flash my ROM, but I really want GPS.
I would also like to mention that I stalk you on the internet.
Hello all!!!!
I updated to the Sprint Rom 3.56 and Radio 3.42... I wwanted to know if it's possible to downgrade to a non-GPS Rom again...
To explain a little bit more, I'm from Venezuela and my Company didn't offer the newest of Rom... it was very old, although it was WM6 it didn't had Rev.A nor GPS (my network supports Rev.A so i didn't understand why they did these...
The Problem is my phone is not working, i didn't let the Sprint Customization run so my phone is completly configured to my home network in Venezuela (I checked the EPST setting and everything is like it should be)...
I wanted to know becasue in last chance I want to take it back for them to put the stock Rom again, but I don't know if that would brick my phone...
thanxs to enyone who can help me!!!
Sounds like you may need to setup your PRL list for your Cell vendor. The new radio included a new pri and prl, so you may need to just update your prl for your cell, and possible the pri.
the PRL is in order, it didn't change after the update... but the PRI i think it change, let me check that...
thanks!!!
**DO NOT USE ANY OF THESE RADIOS ON A GSM PHONE! YOU WILL END UP WITH A BRICK IF YOU DO! ON THE SAME NOTE, DO NOT USE ANY GSM RADIOS ON A CDMA PHONE OR YOU WILL END UP WITH A BRICK!**
I take no credit for acquiring these radios. This is simply a collection of information from various sources (mainly PPCGeeks forums). I hope everyone finds it useful.
Does my phone have to be unlocked in order to flash my radio?
- Yes. If you do not know how to unlock your phone, use the SEARCH feature. There are plenty of threads with help on unlocking your phone.
How do I find out what radio I'm currently running?
- Dial ##786# and scroll down to "Firmware Version" and that will tell you which version radio you are running.
Can I use any radio for any carrier?
- Yes! You can mix and match all of these radios with different CDMA carriers. For instance I am currently under contract with Sprint but I'm using a Verizon radio with absolutely no problems. Get it?
Which radio is best for me?
- Too many variables come into play when it comes to your radio on your phone. The BEST way to find out which radio is best for you is to flash it and try it! Give it a couple of days and then try another. I know it's a P.I.T.A. but it is absolutely the very best way to figure out what is best for your phone.
How can I view my signal levels?
- ##33284# is the DEBUG menu. Under here you should look at the following 3 sections (the closer to 0 you are, the better):
Rx Power
Rx Ec/Io
Rx FER
For those of you having issues with the DEBUG menu flashing quickly and returning to the dialer screen, try this cab. Fix Debug Menu
If I flash my radio, does it hard reset my phone?
- Absolutely NOT! It will simply soft reset with no loss of data.
Why should I flash a new radio version on my phone?
- Increased reception reliability & increased battery life. It's simple. The less roaming you do, the better your battery life.
How do I flash my radio?
- The flashing process is IDENTICAL to the ROM flashing process.
1. Download a radio RAR or ZIP file from below
2. Extract the contents of the RAR or ZIP file
3. Plug in your phone to your computer via USB and select ActivSync
4. Execute the "ROMUpdateUtility" and follow the prompts
5. Wait for reboot
6. Done
Note: There is currently no Alltel or Bell stock Touch Pro radio dump. What this means is that if you are currently an Alltel or Bell customer and wish to flash your radio, after the flash you will NOT be able to go back to the stock radio. The Alltel radio listed below was ported from the Diamond. Please consider this BEFORE flashing!!
RADIOS:
ALLTEL
v1.03.13F (Ported from the Diamond. NOT A STOCK TOUCH PRO RADIO)
v1.12.20F
CELLULAR SOUTH
v1.12.31F
SPRINT
v1.00.00F (Ported from the Diamond. NOT A STOCK TOUCH PRO RADIO)
v1.00.04F
v1.03.15F
v1.11.00F (Ported from the Diamond. NOT A STOCK TOUCH PRO RADIO)
v1.12.34F
TELUS
v1.04.05V
US CELLULAR
v1.07.06F
VERIZON
v1.03.03V
v1.03.09V
the Sprint 1.11 was also ported from an official Diamond upgrade. and thanks for posting the radios over here!
I knew I would forget something. Thanks!
Thanks for the instructions very useful.
Excellent! Thank you for this!
I had asked about this a few days ago and I just went this morning to PPCGeeks to find the radios...and ofcourse after a search I did find them, but having them here as well doesn't hurt! =)
I'm glad everyone is finding this useful. I know I wish some of those questions were answered when I first started trying different radios.
I'm a little confused, did I miss something
I have a sprint HTC touch pro. I have the mighty rom 5.0 on it. I saw your instruction to flash to get the radio. I've successfully flashed it, but where is the radio? How do I listen to the radio?
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I have a sprint HTC touch pro. I have the mighty rom 5.0 on it. I saw your instruction to flash to get the radio. I've successfully flashed it, but where is the radio? How do I listen to the radio?
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the radio is the firmware that connects to the cell towers. for reception purposes , not FM radio.
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Note: There is currently no Alltel or Bell stock Touch Pro radio dump. What this means is that if you are currently an Alltel or Bell customer and wish to flash your radio, after the flash you will NOT be able to go back to the stock radio. The Alltel radio listed below was ported from the Diamond. Please consider this BEFORE flashing!!
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there actually is a stock alltel dump.
links to a bunch of stock roms(some dumped):
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42741
If you need me to mirror it, let me know.
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there actually is a stock alltel dump.
links to a bunch of stock roms(some dumped):
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42741
If you need me to mirror it, let me know.
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I could me mistaken but none of those are "radio only" dumps. Those are full stock ROM dumps. This thread is dedicated to "radio only" flashing.
thanks for posting this. I understand the purpose of this tread, but just to clarify...If you wanted to flash back to the stock radio for the TP you could flash the original rom correct?
Also when I dial ##786# it flashes for a split second then disappears. (I have Alltel TP)
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Also when I dial ##786# it flashes for a split second then disappears. (I have Alltel TP)
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Mine does the same thing...weird.
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Mine does the same thing...weird.
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Try ##778# or ##778 "Send" and see if that works for you.
I have a Sprint version and that might be the difference. Can anyone confirm this?
Question, does this affect the EVDO connection as well, such as if I switch to the Verizon radio (I am on Sprint) will this effect the receive on my EVDO?
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Question, does this affect the EVDO connection as well, such as if I switch to the Verizon radio (I am on Sprint) will this effect the receive on my EVDO?
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It will affect your speed either for better or worse. It will not affect the actual ability for you to connect to the service. For lack of a better word it's a different "antenna" for your phone.
New Radio from Alltel
There is a new radio from Alltel that might look good in the collection.. Check out HTC Support for Alltel touch pro to download their latest update.
has anyone got the new 1.12.20F radio and turned it into a flashable exe for us yet? from the new stock altel rom
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has anyone got the new 1.12.20F radio and turned it into a flashable exe for us yet? from the new stock altel rom
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New Alltel radio has been added to the first post.
I have a sprint touch pro and when i try to flash from a 1.03.15 to a 1.11.00 i keep getting an error am i missing something?
Did you unlock your phone first?
I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
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I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
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You probably want the T-Mob radio software, so you can enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. Otherwise, you will find that the AT&T radio does not give you 3G and LTE in many locations.
In order to flash another carrier's radio, you need s-off, and there is no way around that. Then you need to change the carrier ID (CID) and model ID (MID) to that of T-Mob.
At that point, you may as well RUU to a stock factory T-Mobile software image (not just the radio) and that would be recommended, is it will get you a complete T-Mobile "baseline" phone as opposed to an AT&T ROM with T-Mob radio, etc.
After running the T-Mob RUU, your phone will be "fully converted" to the T-Mob version in terms of software. Others here have converted the AT&T version for use on T-Mob. So I'll try to find one of those threads instead of trying to explain it all again.
None of these mods will change your SIM unlock. That will remain unlocked.
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388
Another point: You can update to the latest AT&T Lollipop software by RUU. And you can flash custom Lollipop ROMs after that. But neither of these will enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. So that is why I suggest "converting" the phone to T-Mob stock software instead.
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
grant523 said:
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
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Yes it's different the AT&T ruu won't give you the T-Mobile bands. And you can install custom roms if you want but I would reccomend paying the $25 to s-off and fully converting to t-mobile and either stay on stock or flash a custom t-mobile rom
grant523 said:
A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
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I think your first phrase was intended to read "flash the T-Mob RUU, then install a custom ROM".
The radio is not contained in the ROM, and flashing a ROM doesn't affect the radio in any way.
The radio is contained in what many folks here called the "firmware package" or firmware.zip; and it can be installed by flashing the RUU.
Another thing that will help you understand, is that the phone has something like 36 (or more) partitions. The ROM is just one of those. The radio is a separate partition (as bootloader, recovery, and others have their own separate partitions as well). Flashing one partition, does not effect the others. The RUU is a complete software image that flashes all the partitions to factory stock for a certain carrier version.
You can also flash the radio or firmware.zip manually (without flashing the whole RUU). But my personal recommendation would be to baseline to a fully stock T-Mobile software profile, since you are on the T-Mob network, to make sure every partition plays well together (as opposed to mixing T-Mob and AT&T software components).
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If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together?
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I wouldn't say that. Custom ROMs have their place. But a custom ROM will not open up the T-Mob bands. As mentioned, you can only do that by flashing the radio, which isn't affected by flashing the ROM.
After baselining to a T-Mob stock config as I've suggested, you can feel free to flash a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs if you like. But if would be for other reasons than the radio bands; such as performance, customization, debloating, etc..
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Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
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Basically yes. If you want to be sure a phone works fully on a certain network "out of the box", you should buy the phone that is branded for that network. Otherwise, you should always thoroughly research a phone (not branded for your carrier) before trying to use it on your network.
Luckily for you, on this device the radio bands can be changed in software using the mods I've noted above. On past devices, the band support was set in hardware, meaning where was no way to change it in software. In that case, you would really have some buyer's remorse to deal with.
Ah OK thanks for the responses! I think I'm starting to understand. I did research how an At&t m8 would work with T-MOBILE but I didn't realize i would have to go throw this whole software process to make it work! Anyhow I appreciate the help and I'll buy a Sunshine license when I get a chance. Thanks again!
You are quite welcome.
Here is a thread with more info on changing from AT&T to T-Mob software: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388#post60606278
Good luck!