What is the most effective way to use the pro as a modem? I have downloaded PdaNet and it works flawlessly but wonder if it is the most efficient means from a speed stand point. Also when I downloaded it did not say it was a demo but I see an option to buy and register which wants an e-mail and a serial but the program seems to work fine. I wonder for how long?
PDANet Demo is good for 14 days if I remember correctly. For me it's been great and I ended up buying it. I think you would see the best speeds tethered to the phone via USB than via WiFi or Bluetooth.
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With PDANet, would ATT know that you were tethering? Is there any way that they can recognize data transfering from the computer through the phone?
Thanks in advance
I haven't had an issue. I used to tether my motorola Q on verizon without paying for their extra 'tethering' option. I would only use it while traveling so I never had a high data usage for the month.
PDANet slows you down. For sure.
ICS is the best for tethering IMO, it doesn't cripple your speeds.
check out this thread I made http://sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174517
will confirm that ICS is way faster...
for verizoners check this out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=47075
works great and don't have to worry about activesync
*using it right now to post
What about WMwifirouter ?
http://freewareppc.com/communication/wmwifirouter.shtml
The freeware version works perfectly with the ancient mogul.
Usage:
WMWifiRouter is very simple to operate (if everything goes well). After installation just start the program, press "Connect", wait until the screen gives you a fully green icon and then you can connect your other WiFi-enabled devices to the "WMWifiRouter" network. Once you are connected, for most devices you can just press the power button to turn off the screen and other power using components of your device, while it remains functional as a WiFi router.
NOTICE: If you have a Titan / Mogul or other device that has a hardware WiFi switch, turn this to the on position before starting WMWifiRouter.
NOTICE: Obviously, using WMWifiRouter to tether over WiFi uses your phone's data connection, so you should make sure you have good data plan, or you will be charged extra!
I have used all 3 options. Pda net is simple you don't need to hack reg. It is slower. ICS for most you have to do hack or pay extra is faster no other software to buy pdanet is like 20 buck i think. There are pirate copies but is not so expensive good to support developers. I currently use wmwifireouter it is also fast you still have to do the hack cost is 30 bucks us. With this one you need to plug it in somewhere to keep battery charged it does allow multiple phones. Is customizable now works like a charm but you do want to open keyboard for cooling. I use sprint and have never been charged for tethering with any of these options. In my opinion you have more flexability with wmwifirouter than with the others.
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Hey all... just picked up the Touch Pro the other day and was a little disheartened to see that the tethering functions can be a little troublesome.
In the past, I've used USBModem on a Treo 700p and it worked beautifully via BlueTooth with my Nokia N800. I typically don't use the devices with a laptop/desktop, as it is most often something I'll make use of when I'm out... otherwise, the standard PDANet solutions would be fine.
Soooo... questions are: have their been any solutions figured out by others who may be using a Nokia N800/N810 to tether to, or is the only current option to use the WMWifiRouter software? Even using the registry changes mentioned in other threads, I have had no luck having the Nokia find the Touch Pro - well... it does, but it sees it as being a GSM device, which I haven't figured out either. If the WMWiFiRouter is the only real option, is it known if that software takes any steps to "mask usage" or will I be dealing with Sprint wanting me to get the "phone as modem" package - additionally, if that would be a problem, could the registry modifications help with that?
Any info provided is greatly appreciated. It's the only thing that keeps it from mopping the floor with my previous machine!
//edit: I failed to mention that I am with Sprint, and the USBModem site clearly states that it does not work via BlueTooth with the Sprint service - I don't know if I've done the registry edit and tried USBModem (I don't believe so, but I've tried a fair number of combos and off the wall ideas so far, so I dunno!)
As far as I can tell, the WMWifiRouter does not let Sprint know that you are tethering since in the technical sense of the word, you are not. Pulling the 3G signal down and broadcasting it as wifi is not tethering. Just try not to use gigabytes of bandwidth every month and you should be fine.
Also, WMWifiRouter is the only solution I've found for my Touch Pro (also on Sprint) that actually works. My tethering hacks always failed after 30 seconds or so, and there seemed to be no other solutions out there besides this piece of software.
You make a good point in that it's not tethering in the sense of the word. I suppose I could also rephrase the question to ask if they can spot the activity and, if so, how easily, but it may be beating a dead horse. I did find it to be a reasonable solution outside of it being a bit of a battery drain. I don't use such functions very often at all, and as such have never brought attention to any minor tethering I've done in the past. Hopefully it will stay that way and I won't see a whack of charges on my bill. Cheers!
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Hey all... just picked up the Touch Pro the other day and was a little disheartened to see that the tethering functions can be a little troublesome.
In the past, I've used USBModem on a Treo 700p and it worked beautifully via BlueTooth with my Nokia N800. I typically don't use the devices with a laptop/desktop, as it is most often something I'll make use of when I'm out... otherwise, the standard PDANet solutions would be fine.
Soooo... questions are: have their been any solutions figured out by others who may be using a Nokia N800/N810 to tether to, or is the only current option to use the WMWifiRouter software? Even using the registry changes mentioned in other threads, I have had no luck having the Nokia find the Touch Pro - well... it does, but it sees it as being a GSM device, which I haven't figured out either. If the WMWiFiRouter is the only real option, is it known if that software takes any steps to "mask usage" or will I be dealing with Sprint wanting me to get the "phone as modem" package - additionally, if that would be a problem, could the registry modifications help with that?
Any info provided is greatly appreciated. It's the only thing that keeps it from mopping the floor with my previous machine!
//edit: I failed to mention that I am with Sprint, and the USBModem site clearly states that it does not work via BlueTooth with the Sprint service - I don't know if I've done the registry edit and tried USBModem (I don't believe so, but I've tried a fair number of combos and off the wall ideas so far, so I dunno!)
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How often are you "Tethering" anyway? I honestly don't have any problems using my phone as a modem with the reg edits to modify the connection from "ForceConnection" to "Sprint PCS" and it works great.
I'm not a dedicated "Tetherer" and use it occasionally but have never seen any problems using the Internet Sharing app and the reg edit.
I use it very rarely (at least I think I do)... maybe once or twice every couple of weeks, and I don't use it to download things from the web and whatnot. Typically, I'll access a few sites and that's about it - very limited.
The only problem I ran into with the reg edits was that my Nokia N800 wasn't picking it up via Bluetooth. Using this method, I can just connect to the wireless broadcast.
Hmm, well I usually use the USB cord with mine but I did us the BT DUN on to tether using a MAC and it worked just fine.
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i invested in PDAnet back when i got my Moto q and have never been happier. I get great speeds. download at 300kb/s at times. Their newest version includes options for WiFi setup as well. Definately worth the money IMO.
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i invested in PDAnet back when i got my Moto q and have never been happier. I get great speeds. download at 300kb/s at times. Their newest version includes options for WiFi setup as well. Definately worth the money IMO.
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Would you be willing to do a test with PDANet and the ICS program on our phones?
I'd like to see a comparison of DL speeds fron the same location of PDANet vs. ICS. I have the ICS cab if you are not running it right now if you like.
PDANet would work fine if I were to tether to a desktop or laptop. Problem is, I am almost never in a situation where I need such a thing. If I use it, it's via bluetooth with my Nokia N800 (since it does not support USB hosting of such devices as 'USB modems'). Bluetooth connectivity with both PDANet and USBModem is nil, with USBModem saying that it won't work with Sprint on their page.
I have found that the latest version of WMWiFiRouter (version 1.25 as of writing) works beautifully and I get reasonably speeds with it... since it's an ad-hoc wifi access point, the Nokia likes it. Problem seems to be solved and very reasonable.
Simply asked, will WMWifirouter work on the Sprint's Touch Pro? Or will it at least work as well on there as it does on my Mogul? (in that it will allow me to use the "Sprint PCS" as a teathering option instead of getting sprint's phone as modem service.)
I took a different route: Tether via USB cable which takes a lot less battery power to do than running WiFi. Yeah, cables are "old school" but they can be more practical at times.
Anyway, I can now tether my Sprint Touch Pro via a USB cable and do Internet sharing without subscribing to the "Phone as Modem" service. If you're interested in how I did that, visit THIS THREAD.
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Short answer yes it works. Longer answer it works but you still have to do the ics hack first. There is a new version out there if you register it lets you do more things. It can work with the cable as well. The cost for the liscences version is 30 dollars us. It is worth it the old free version is also still out there. They both work I have used them. Tho the old version did seem to have some problems. Not sure if it was the phone or vista causing the problems tho.
I can confirm that the lastest version 1.25 works perfectly on the Sprint Touch Pro. It does allow you to choose "Sprint" as the network instead of "Phone As Modem". Also, with the latest version, there is no need to do the ICS hack. Just install, follow the prompts, and everything needed is setup for you.
I hope that helps!
So you said you got it to work without doing the ics hack? Their website says you must a working ICS and sprint by default turns that off. I have noticed I can't get ICS to work thru usb anymore since I installed it. any way the important thing is it does work. 15 day free trial in fact they request you test with the free trial before you can buy.
Let me add that though the latest version of WiFiRouter DOES indeed work perfectly with my TP and ANY computer with WiFi capability there is one drawback. After about 45 minutes of use, the TP is almost scorching hot on the backside. I limit my usage to make sure I'm not going to fry any of the internal components on the phone. Just my two cents.
WMWifiRouter is a great program. It works great for almost all of the computers that I have that I would want to have connected to the internet when I am on the road
EXCEPT
my lenovo laptop. it will not see the network created by wmwifirouter, no matter what I do.
wmwifirouter can only set up ad-hoc connections, and not infrastructure connections.
so make sure to test it out before you go and buy a licensem just to find out that you can't use it with your primary laptop
opening the keyboard and setting up so it is kind of sitting up helps it stay cool. It also has a temp reading in the program if it gets to hot it shuts down the connection anyway. I also cheat and hook up to my playstation 3 using their standard cable for the remotes and it charges my phone while it getting me online.
To combat the heat I made a "cold box" out of a small (5"x5")square shipping box and an old computer fan. I just set the phone inside it with the back removed and faced down so the bottom faces the fan. It never over heats.
I use a similar method to the cld box..a small desk fan with the back cover off and the TP stays cool
For the non jail broken peeps, what do you use? I used to use SVTP before but ever since I got the S4, tethering has been really flaky with constant interruptions and hang ups. I wonder if that has something to do with 4.2. I also tried that free tether app from the other thread but having similar issues.
I use PdaNet+ and Foxfi. Used it with no issues on galaxy nexus and now with no issues on GS4 the few times I've used it. You need to pay to unlock it, which I did when I first got my Nexus. Same license transferred to GS4, but I forgot how much it was.
I have unlimited data, and although the app seems to turn on the phone's built wifi tethering (it pops up on the notification bar) verizon no longer charges a separate charge for Wifi tether since they went family share, so I don't think they care.
Although I heard if you are repeatedly reckless with Data usage, they can pull your unlimited data plans without any other cause.
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I recently was on travel and needed to use the tethering feature, and I too used the (paid) version of FoxFi and the most recent PDANet desktop client. My results were so-so. I first tried Bluetooth, and while it quickly established the connection, it would usually lose the connection within the first 2 minutes of consuming data across the link. I could usually re-establish the link one time, but it would again drop in about 2 min, and then the phone would need to be rebooted because the Bluetooth service went wonky (FoxFi would hang when trying to turn Bluetooth tether function off/back on, phone's BT settings screen would not launch and phone would hang, etc.). Had to reboot phone and kill/restart desktop PDANet client to re-establish...and then the cycle would repeat.
Had better luck with USB tethering, but it was also not 100% problem-free. Once established it generally worked reliably, but every time I went to set it up, I'd have to try plugging the cable into multiple USB ports on the laptop before PDANet could see the phone, sometimes had to kill/relaunch the PDANet app multiple times, etc.
My experience would not have been satisfactory for my mom to use. I definitely had to dink with it a fair bit to get it to work.
YMMV.
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For the non jail broken peeps, what do you use? I used to use SVTP before but ever since I got the S4, tethering has been really flaky with constant interruptions and hang ups. I wonder if that has something to do with 4.2. I also tried that free tether app from the other thread but having similar issues.
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I was having the same issue with SVTP until I found this thread. It's been working perfectly for me. Hope it works for you too.
So, I'm moving. And my PC doesn't have a WiFi card in it for the time being. Ethernet is out of the question.
I have an unlimited Verizon 4g plan... but I heard they don't let you tether for free anymore over their network with unlimited. (I can use WiFi root tether, but that's beside the point.)
I've tried using the Settings => Usb Tethering option, but stock sense doesn't let you tether without a 4g connection enabled.
Any ideas? (Preferably something without dumb limitations, like no https etc, but beggars can't be choosers.)
Thanks!
-Frankie
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
hyphydragon said:
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
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Interesting. Do you have HTC Sync on your pc?
Only way it'll let me do it is if I use data. I'll post screens in a min
See
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I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
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I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
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Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
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Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
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on PDANET atm with LEVEL II usage hiding and i was able to get into things like paypal with https and what not. So i think it would be fine, i don't have unlimited anymore so i use no hiding but i turned it on to see if it works and it seemed to. Im posting this with it on level II.
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im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
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Definitely works and will do the trick for now. Thanks man.
The free version kind of blows... I go through the allotted data in like a minute.
Do you notice pretty low speeds, or connection drops when the phone goes to sleep? Do you know if I need to keep it always screen on or something? Or is this the level 2 screening?
Wish there was a way to do this natively without having to do all this, but will work in a pinch. Thanks!
it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
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it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
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Thanks bud, yeah it helps. I'll probably end up buying it eventually... WiFi Tether [Root] works fine for WiFi, but for some reason FoxFi scares me. I feel verizon will strip my unlimited away from me while using FoxFi. Not sure why I feel safer using the WiFi root tether app though.
they should be able to tell your tethering with a normal non proxied app. In reality though they can allways tell if they cared but unless your use more than like 6 GB idk they would care if your plan is expensive enough lol.
Yeah, I wish there was another way than pdanet to do it. Wish there was a way to tell if the speeds are just my phone or the free pdanet version.
how low are the speeds on speedtest.net on pc vs on the app on the phone, mine are almost same.
I was.... "Testing" the download speeds through pdanet. Its about 1000Kbs slower through pdanet.
Hey all. So I bought a couple of cheap knock off go pros to use for recording various things and the problem I'm having is that I cannot connect to the wifi signal it broadcasts.
The camera puts out a WEP encrypted wifi network which I can only even pick up by putting my device into airplane mode and turning on the wifi radio only. Even when I can find the SSID, it won't stay connected long enough to work. It basically drops the signal immediately.
I have tuned off all the auto connect and disconnect options in advanced wifi and yet it still won't hold the connection.
Anyone have any thoughts on how I can get this to work?
Side note: I have successfully connected to it from a Samsung S7. So I know it can work, just not from my V30
Anyone??
Disable encryption and run it wide open... WEP is a dead protocol and has many problems. It's ridiculously easy to crack, so you might as well just leave it open.
I'm guessing the device can't run simultaneous connections anyway, so if you can connect, you're probably the only device in there anyway. If you're using it as a remote camera, your client will probably always be connected anyway, so you've occupied that one connect port as well.
@schwinn8 Thank you for trying to help me out with this here, however I'm not able to do what your suggesting.
This camera won't let me ditch the password and run it open (why?, I have no idea) I'm really at a loss for why it's not connecting/will stay connected. I have now tried an iPhone, a Samsung, and my older LG G5 and all of these could connect to it with no issue.
I'm due for a full reset on my device, so I'm going to try and see if maybe a clean install allows it to work. (Maybe a module is making it act screwy). I've also lost my Hotpsot capabilities no matter what apns I run and no matter what tether settings I change in the global settings tables. (I actually have hotspot on my plan but it's never worked without me modding settings / apns)
Side note, if anyone is looking for cheap gopro alternative, the one I got is similar to this one, and it was on sale for 17.99 Great features for the price (car mode, wifi control, motion detector,etc) and uses all of the same accessories as a regular gopro. I actually bought 3 so when i lose one or break one I have a back up.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/iPM-HD-1080P-Waterproof-Sports-Action-Camera-IPMY6L/301028085
(If this link is against one of the forum rules, I apologise and please feel free to deleted my link or let me know and I'll delete it)
Like I said, WEP is a dead protocol, so it makes sense that older phones would work better, since these protocols are not focused on for modern devices. It's like how a Windows 95 program would probably run great on an old Wiin95 computer, but it may not work at all on Win10.
Sure, the device SHOULD be backwards compatible, but no one is going to bother fixing them.